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Korg Leaf	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:13:00 - [1] i have all racial cruisers to V and want to get a bc for pvp. i am not bothered about training for other skills so was just curious
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:13:00 - [2] drake
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:14:00 - [3] Drake, Harbinger or Hurricane is your best bets imo.
Korg Leaf	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:34:00 - [4] cheers guys was going to go for the drake but just wanted to check before i wasted alot of training time for alot of nothing pvp wise
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:34:00 - [5] Edited by: Misanth on 04/02/2009 18:35:05 "Better" is very subjective. What for? Solo, small gang, middle size, big gank (uhm don't use BC there, e-war cruiser do better)? It affects the approach to the fight, range, etc, variables that are quite important to consider. Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Drake, Harbinger or Hurricane is your best bets imo. ..but that's a good generalisation tbh. If you got access to all weaponry and tanks, I'd prolly roll with the Harbinger just because the dronebay/mids offers very sexy utility (that Amarr isn't very spoiled with). But I like the Drake and the Hurricane is awsome as well. Three very good allrounded PvP ships overall. Edited for clarity.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Misanth Edited by: Misanth on 04/02/2009 18:35:05 "Better" is very subjective. What for? Solo, small gang, middle size, big gank (uhm don't use BC there, e-war cruiser do better)? It affects the approach to the fight, range, etc, variables that are quite important to consider. Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Drake, Harbinger or Hurricane is your best bets imo. ..but that's a good generalisation tbh. If you got access to all weaponry and tanks, I'd prolly roll with the Harbinger just because the dronebay/mids offers very sexy utility (that Amarr isn't very spoiled with). But I like the Drake and the Hurricane is awsome as well. Three very good allrounded PvP ships overall. Edited for clarity. Don't forget the Brutix or Myrmidon, which are both pretty awesome.
August Guns Minmatar Infinite ISK.	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:33:00 - [7] I pvp in my Ferox. Its a good ship. ... I couldn't even type that with a straight face.
Mr Ignitious R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:23:00 - [8] kil2's video has some ubar cyclone and brutix action. Both are sexy ships. Cheap and effective ^^
Vanthropy Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:31:00 - [9] what he said, i like those two a lot.. but i fly a cane a lot two "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up"
Psiri	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:44:00 - [10] Brutix - Most bang for the buck Drake - Best for specific tasks, strong solo ship Hurricane - Best all-round
Julius Romanus Amarr	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:49:00 - [11] Edited by: Julius Romanus on 04/02/2009 20:49:38 Unrigged the Harbinger can either do a ton of damage, or do a good bit of damage and take a beating. Rigged the thing is a monster(similar to a ham drake in that regard), but you're better off spending the same money on a unrigged Geddon. ------------------ For Medicinal Use Only.
Riven Varlass	Posted - 2009.02.04 21:14:00 - [12] Edited by: Riven Varlass on 04/02/2009 21:14:41 Originally by: Psiri Brutix - Most bang for the buck Drake - Best for specific tasks, strong solo ship Hurricane - Best all-round Mentioning Drake in this thread should be a crime. Harbinger will whop all 3 of them.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.04 21:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Riven Varlass Edited by: Riven Varlass on 04/02/2009 21:14:41 Originally by: Psiri Brutix - Most bang for the buck Drake - Best for specific tasks, strong solo ship Hurricane - Best all-round Mentioning Drake in this thread should be a crime. Harbinger will whop all 3 of them. Actually the Drake is very stong, and can easily get over 500 dps, and sport a very sturdy tank to boot.
Riven Varlass	Posted - 2009.02.04 21:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Originally by: Riven Varlass Edited by: Riven Varlass on 04/02/2009 21:14:41 Originally by: Psiri Brutix - Most bang for the buck Drake - Best for specific tasks, strong solo ship Hurricane - Best all-round Mentioning Drake in this thread should be a crime. Harbinger will whop all 3 of them. Actually the Drake is very stong, and can easily get over 500 dps, and sport a very sturdy tank to boot. What tackling/Utility can you fit then?
Absolom Hues Gallente The Triangle Veneratio Venator Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.04 21:39:00 - [15] Edited by: Absolom Hues on 04/02/2009 21:39:07 The below listed DRAKE fit has a DPS rating of 644 using Terror Rage Assault (Kinetic), but I still use EM or Explosion damage because most ships have a high Kinetic resistance. The Shield tank is rated at 120 defense and has 71K of total ehp. Highs: 7 x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II 1 x Small Energy nuetralizer II Medium: 1 x 10mn Microwarp II 1 x Warp Scrambler 1 x Webbifier 2 x Invulnerabilty Field II 1 x Photon Scattering Field II Lows: 1 x Damage Control II 3 x Balistic Control II Rigs: 3 x Core Defense Field Extender I Drones: 5 x Hobgoblin II
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:00:00 - [16] Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 04/02/2009 22:01:15 Originally by: Absolom Hues Edited by: Absolom Hues on 04/02/2009 21:39:07 The below listed DRAKE fit has a DPS rating of 644 using Terror Rage Assault (Kinetic), but I still use EM or Explosion damage because most ships have a high Kinetic resistance. The Shield tank is rated at 120 defense and has 71K of total ehp. Highs: 7 x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II 1 x Small Energy nuetralizer II Medium: 1 x 10mn Microwarp II 1 x Warp Scrambler 1 x Webbifier 2 x Invulnerabilty Field II 1 x Photon Scattering Field II Lows: 1 x Damage Control II 3 x Balistic Control II Rigs: 3 x Core Defense Field Extender I Drones: 5 x Hobgoblin II This basically. Use resistance rigs if you are cheap ^^. I use this somtimes: [Drake, PvP] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Fleeting Warp Disruptor I (Or a scram) Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Small Nosferatu II Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 It requires no fitting implants.
Grista	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:10:00 - [17] Edited by: Grista on 04/02/2009 22:10:06 Both the Hurricane and Harbinger are excellent pvp ships, for a variety of uses. The Drake suffers from lower dps, but has very good tanking ability. People who fly these in gang generally will find they are primaried later in a fight. There's no good reason to fly a Myrmidon over a Dominix, in my view, ever.
Absolom Hues Gallente The Triangle Veneratio Venator Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Grista The Drake suffers from lower dps, but has very good tanking ability... Quote: I disagree with your low dps statement. ___ Quote from Karrade Krise concerning stealth bombers: "I felt a disturbance in the Expansion...it was as if millions of people /facepalmed....and were suddenly Nerfed."
Riven Varlass	Posted - 2009.02.04 23:12:00 - [19] x7 Heavy Pulse T2 x1 Electrochem Injector x1 Warp Disruptor x1 Web x1 10mn AB t2 x3 Heat Sinks T2 x1 DCU T2 x1 EANM T2 x1 Medium Armor Repair T2 x5 Hammerheads T2 or x5 Medium ECM drones 811 DPS w/hammerheads. Not much survivability in there though, It's kill or be killed. Drake EFT warriors, you'll likely lose quite a bit of that dps to the explosion velocity, and rightly so looking at the numbers your presenting on the dps and tank.
Ka Jolo The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:07:00 - [20] When conducting lowsec piracy solo in a Thorax, the two BC's I grew to fear the most are the Hurricane and the Myrmidon. I may not have been able to kill most Drakes, but they never had much of a chance to kill me, either, if I wanted to get out. Any other BC I could usually pop with a Gankerax before they could kill me.
Vanthropy Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:27:00 - [21] those drake posts are far from eft warrioring. those are just the facts of the drake, if fit out well and not for some nubalicious spongy crap tank they are by and large the greatest bc. "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up"
Vanthropy Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:32:00 - [22] and your harby isn't gonna womp a cane, nor will it whomp my brutix for that matter. If you fit a scram on it then maybe due to kiting within scram range for your full dps.. but i always check two things before a serious engagement 1v1.. 1. does my opponent have a mwd or ab. 2. does my opponent have a scram or point (or both conceivably) A harby is as nasty as a drake however as a gang ship due to it's ability to stay out of range with scorch ammo "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up"
Trader20	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:34:00 - [23] Edited by: Trader20 on 05/02/2009 06:36:13 Originally by: Vanthropy those drake posts are far from eft warrioring. those are just the facts of the drake, if fit out well and not for some nubalicious spongy crap tank they are by and large the greatest bc. Agreed, drake can be the worst bc when fit with spr and shield rechargers or it can be one of the best bc's when fit with haml/bcu and mwd. Fit the drake (or any other ship) for the task at hand and it will be effective.
fivetide humidyear Gallente EXCESS10N	Posted - 2009.02.05 08:56:00 - [24] battlecruisers is probably teh most balanced ship class at the moment, dependent on fit drake, harbinger and hurricane are very very similar in overall performance. for me the harbinger is best at the moment followed by the hurricane, but you have to be wary of ships getting inside your tracking on the harby. and never underestimate any of the others when competantly flown and fitted .
Vanthropy Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.05 09:33:00 - [25] Edited by: Vanthropy on 05/02/2009 09:33:26 Originally by: fivetide humidyear and never underestimate any of the others when competantly flown and fitted . qft, though im sure they are fitted before they are flown in that case "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up"
Dreadmuppet Four	Posted - 2009.02.05 10:34:00 - [26] this is a nice suprise fit [Brutix, honour] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5
kyrv	Posted - 2009.02.05 10:50:00 - [27] Hurricane is wicked with 6 720mm's, you can pop a caracal in 6 seconds
Orange Crush	Posted - 2009.02.05 10:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Riven Varlass Drake EFT warriors, you'll likely lose quite a bit of that dps to the explosion velocity, and rightly so looking at the numbers your presenting on the dps and tank. Or you're just dumb
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins	Posted - 2009.02.05 11:17:00 - [29] I took out a brutix in 6 shots from 243km away with a sniperpoc uber DPS bout creamed muhself Newho back to topic, I love my harb nuff said and the myrms a good pvp boat and its fun to fly put in a buffer tank 2 reppers n nos/nuets in the hi's = a very slow death to the target, just let the drones do the work
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.02.05 11:21:00 - [30] Originally by: Riven Varlass Drake EFT warriors, you'll likely lose quite a bit of that dps to the explosion velocity, and rightly so looking at the numbers your presenting on the dps and tank. Rage HAMs do full damage to a Hurricane ABing flat out while webbed. Also, lol afterburner.

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