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Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:40:00 - [1] Been hearing about this problem for ages on the board but it never happened to me. That changed when I had two docked clients up and then after a few minutes I start getting artifacts then the gpu temp alarm goes off so I quickly check it and its at 90c and rising fast so I stab at the shut down button. I waited a few minutes and restarted only to have it run normally. Started the eve clients again and gpu temp shoots up. Long story short I had just fiddled with the settings for a bit that led to this condition so I was able to quickly figure out the combination of windowed client with vid drivers set to force v-sync and ingame set to interval immediate was the issue. Turned off one or the other and no temp problems. Hope this helps some people with that random annoying problem.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:48:00 - [2] Gut tip but I worri how peopel can cliam for damige garhpic card becoz of this porblem ... Raelli thakn you for tip. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Jerik Havo Caldari Tankt	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:52:00 - [3] I honestly have never had that happen, though I have heard of it happen to a few other people... What card are you using and what drivers? It's possible that there's a clash somewhere.
Na'Thuul Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:54:00 - [4] yawn Dyslexia Jenny is getting old.... Try coming up with something more original than worse and worse spelling dude. As for OP, never encountered the issue. ---
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.04 18:57:00 - [5] Originally by: Na'Thuul yawn Dyslexia Jenny is getting old Especially after posting in perfect English just yesterday Quote: As for OP, never encountered the issue. Me neither, but I never run EVE fullscreen, and always have "interval one" set _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:00:00 - [6] Edited by: Zeba on 04/02/2009 19:01:32 Originally by: Jerik Havo I honestly have never had that happen, though I have heard of it happen to a few other people... What card are you using and what drivers? It's possible that there's a clash somewhere. gf9800gtx oc and whatever the latest drivers are. It only happend after I set the drivers up to force v-sync and then ingame set the interval to immediate. Then zoom up went the gpu temp so yeah I'm sure its some driver/client conflict. Maybe some smart cookie can figure out why its happening but at least this will possibly let you bypass the problem. Originally by: Na'Thuul As for OP, never encountered the issue. Well considering what an odd combination of settings manifest this effect thats understandable. However if you don't have a gpu temp monitor running and you happen to dial in that specific combination of settings and this happens you could very well burn out your gpu. Just some info for those it may concern. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Zeba gf9800gtx oc and whatever the latest drivers are. It only happend after I set the drivers up to force v-sync and then ingame set the interval to immediate. Then zoom up went the gpu temp so yeah I'm sure its some driver/client conflict. Maybe some smart cookie can figure out why its happening but at least this will possibly let you bypass the problem. I'll put this in simple terms for you: Eve can not fry your hardware. HOWEVER, it can cause issues that already exist to manifest themselves in more serious ways. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Taak Coram Gallente Cursed Souls Vort3x.	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:05:00 - [8] I find I get higher temps in space. Having spent the entirety of the Qualifying rounds docked listening in, I can confirm temps never got super high.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:09:00 - [9] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Zeba gf9800gtx oc and whatever the latest drivers are. It only happend after I set the drivers up to force v-sync and then ingame set the interval to immediate. Then zoom up went the gpu temp so yeah I'm sure its some driver/client conflict. Maybe some smart cookie can figure out why its happening but at least this will possibly let you bypass the problem. I'll put this in simple terms for you: Eve can not fry your hardware. HOWEVER, it can cause issues that already exist to manifest themselves in more serious ways. What are you on about? I didn't say it was eves fault I stated the combination of vid driver and eve settings that caused this state and how to remedy the situation. If your looking to have a nonsensical circular argument then go camp some wartargets in Jita 4-4 and smack talk in local or something. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
SecHaul	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:31:00 - [10] Yip, I use the 'interval set to one' which enforces v-sync for me in-game. Otherwise I dock up in the station, my FPS shoot through the roof, and my GFX cards rapidly overheat. I actually have this problem with several games where FPS counts start shooting higher than 100, my temps seems to follow ;) 8800's with poor cooling and SLI is the root cause, I'll be headed back to a single card solution in future.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:32:00 - [11] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Eve can not fry your hardware. HOWEVER, it can cause issues that already exist to manifest themselves in more serious ways. You're right... EVE can't fry your hardware... it can however cause your hardware to fry itself
Pete X Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.02.04 19:54:00 - [12] I remember this came up last year some time. I had same issues at the time. Especially running multiple clients, my x2 8800gts would get exceptionally hot due to having the hanger affects turned on, or the load station environment, iirc. This seemed to be common at the time with nvidia cards. A fella came up with something that has worked for me and others since. With my video cars I would sometimes reach over 400 fps and that would often happen during extended times in station. I wish I would find link, but this is about what it is: You need to v-sync your vid cards to your max refresh rate in your nvidia settings oog. So your max fps will end up being 60 fps...don't worry as humans can't really tell the difference much over 30 fps. Then, go in game to display and graphics and go to advanced settings. Under present interval select "interval one". This ties in eve to your adjusted vid card rate. One thing I did on my own that seems like gold is this: I down loaded a common tool called "riva tuner" for my nvidia cards. It is very easy to make a custom fan profile just for eve. When I play eve, I switch to my custom fan profile using riva tuner. I keep my vid card fans at a constant 60%. Since I have done these changes my vid cards stay cool as cucumbers and I have never had any vid card related issues. No lag in fleet fights solely to the 60fps limitation. Hope this helps
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:44:00 - [13] I was (still am) running two clients one day and I docked or undocked and it blew my video card memory. Called up BFG customer support line and they gladly replaced the card for the cost of me shipping it to them. Was a BFG 6600GT OC, thank god it has a lifetime warranty (keeping the old "new" card just incase my current card decides to go belly up.
Lt Angus Caldari End Game. The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Gut tip but I worri how peopel can cliam for damige garhpic card becoz of this porblem ... Raelli thakn you for tip. Yea getting old, try doing aggressive troll jenny
Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Gut tip but I worri how peopel can cliam for damige garhpic card becoz of this porblem ... Raelli thakn you for tip. Hey when did Jenny get a lobotomy? I don't find her nearly as annoying now ; ] "Arte et Marte"
Zhora Six	Posted - 2009.02.04 22:56:00 - [16] I started a thread about this issue a couple months ago in Issues, Workarounds & Localization. I'm glad that word is spreading about how to fix the problem, because several people have lost their graphics cards due to the default setting for presentation interval. Why the default setting hasn't been changed is beyond me. You'd think CCP would want to help prevent their customers' cards from going, "POOF!" If that isn't a sure-fire way to make people stop playing EVE, I don't know what is... ___________________________________ CCP Greyscale: Pie is not compatible with the dark, dangerous nature of EVE. We replaced it with Black Forest Gateaux, which meets the necessary criteria.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.04 23:03:00 - [17] Originally by: Zeba What are you on about? I didn't say it was eves fault I stated the combination of vid driver and eve settings that caused this state and how to remedy the situation. If your looking to have a nonsensical circular argument then go camp some wartargets in Jita 4-4 and smack talk in local or something. First off, what are you talking about? I wasn't aware we wardecced people. Except under situations in which it is hilarious. Secondly, I believe there is an issues and workaround forum. If you can't figure out which forum to properly place your post in, why should anyone even bother? Thirdly, how to remedy the situation is by not having ** hardware. Failing that, this being an obvious hardware problem, and not in fact a problem with Eve, there are perhaps a hundred better places to look for info on how to solve it. But then again, what do I know? I'm just sitting here in Jita doing whatever it is pubbies thing we do. Originally by:** CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.02.04 23:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Gut tip but I worri how peopel can cliam for damige garhpic card becoz of this porblem ... Raelli thakn you for tip. Can we vote to have the Jenny Spitfire account deleted from the server so we never have to attempt to read something like the above comment again please.
Nether Haze	Posted - 2009.02.05 01:14:00 - [19] Heh, EVE killed my old graphics card like this, pretty much.
Zhora Six	Posted - 2009.02.05 02:50:00 - [20] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Thirdly, how to remedy the situation is by not having **** hardware. Failing that, this being an obvious hardware problem, and not in fact a problem with Eve, there are perhaps a hundred better places to look for info on how to solve it. But then again, what do I know? I'm just sitting here in Jita doing whatever it is pubbies thing we do. While I have no interest in the argument between you and the OP, your assumptions that this issue is directly linked to the quality of hardware and that the Eve client is not a factor are false.
Hoshiko Rei Sekura-Corporation	Posted - 2009.02.05 03:06:00 - [21] THANK YOU! This problem has been driving me crazy, with GPU temps climbing 80c+ while in station. The vsync trick worked and now temps are sitting in the 'normal' range. Hope theres a real fix for this at some point...
Rakessh Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Xenotech Celestial Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.05 03:27:00 - [22] Setting Vertical Sync brings your FPS down to about the same as your screen refresh rate is set at. So while your Eve client is trying to have as many frames per second rendered as possible, the GPU will overheat due to bad air circulation in your tower, or simply because of bad graphics card design etc, many possible issues. Setting vsync then lessens the burden on your GPU, and temperatures drop. You still have a crappy computer setup, and your graphics card is still not able to perform at 100% performance without overheating... you should see if you can increase your cooling/airflow.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.05 03:31:00 - [23] Edited by: Zeba on 05/02/2009 03:33:07 Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Zeba What are you on about? I didn't say it was eves fault I stated the combination of vid driver and eve settings that caused this state and how to remedy the situation. If your looking to have a nonsensical circular argument then go camp some wartargets in Jita 4-4 and smack talk in local or something. First off, what are you talking about? I wasn't aware we wardecced people. Except under situations in which it is hilarious. Secondly, I believe there is an issues and workaround forum. If you can't figure out which forum to properly place your post in, why should anyone even bother? Thirdly, how to remedy the situation is by not having ** hardware. Failing that, this being an obvious hardware problem, and not in fact a problem with Eve, there are perhaps a hundred better places to look for info on how to solve it. But then again, what do I know? I'm just sitting here in Jita doing whatever it is pubbies thing we do. Ohhh circular argument time! 1)So you do in fact wardec people! And steal their corps too! (bob.. gratz on that one) 2) It's a fix post for as large an initial audiance as possible and not a complaint that I haz problems ccp plz fix nao!!! Mitnal will move it when it runs its course in the GD. Possibly sooner if I let myself get dragged further into one of your tail chases. 3)Lol! Not gonna take the bait! Lastly, yeah we all know how you guys operate.. Originally by:** Rakessh Setting Vertical Sync brings your FPS down to about the same as your screen refresh rate is set at. So while your Eve client is trying to have as many frames per second rendered as possible, the GPU will overheat due to bad air circulation in your tower, or simply because of bad graphics card design etc, many possible issues. Setting vsync then lessens the burden on your GPU, and temperatures drop. You still have a crappy computer setup, and your graphics card is still not able to perform at 100% performance without overheating... you should see if you can increase your cooling/airflow. Right, Thats why eve is the only game to exibit this behavior on my machine and also why it gets top marks in 3dmark for its class. GD never fails to amuse.
Rakessh Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Xenotech Celestial Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.05 03:59:00 - [24] Yes, indeed... EvE has somehow made a worm hole in your GPU tapping into a red hot super nova on the other side of the galaxy making your temperature go rampaging up... It's NOT possible for a piece of software to make the GPU exceed its maximum thermal output, short of one that override firmware, ramping up vcore of the gpu and doing other nasty tricks... I bet CCP are guilty as charged. :P tinfoil!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.05 04:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Rakessh Yes, indeed... EvE has somehow made a worm hole in your GPU tapping into a red hot super nova on the other side of the galaxy making your temperature go rampaging up... It's NOT possible for a piece of software to make the GPU exceed its maximum thermal output, short of one that override firmware, ramping up vcore of the gpu and doing other nasty tricks... I bet CCP are guilty as charged. :P tinfoil! Nope not ccps fault. The overheat happens with the combination of a single driver and a single eve setting. There is no guilt or non guilt to be handed out just a fix for an unfortunate synergy situation that might fry your card if you are unlucky. And yes I know I'm being trolled but what I think is being forgotten is that I like it.

CCP Mitnal C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:20:00 - [26] Moved to Issues & Workarounds.

Agent Unknown Caldari Fist of Eargon	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:30:00 - [27] Edited by: Agent Unknown on 05/02/2009 05:31:47 The real issue is improper cooling. I use RivaTuner's hardware monitor in one window while EVE sits in the other. I can observe the FPS, GPU load, and the temperatures. I currently use an ATI Radeon 3850 HD, with all EVE settings set to maximum (windowed). When docked, the FPS does sink a bit, however, the GPU load still stays in the 90% range (mostly pinned at 99-100%), with a temperature of around 75C. This is of course hot, but well within operating limits. Undocked, FPS increases but load and temperature stay the same. EVE is an extremely graphic-intensive game, and will almost always fully use your graphics card(s) to gain the best FPS. As a result, they will get hot. Proper cooling ensures that it can handle the full load. Most other games do not stress the video card as much (except modern ones...Crysis being one) and thus do not generate the deadly heat. A workaround? Well, get better cooling in your case. Fitting extra fans or getting a PCI cooler (a fan that fits in a spare PCI slot) will help. If you know what you're doing, you could fit an aftermarket GPU cooler on the card, but I don't advise it. Edit: Oh, if anybody wants, I could always screenshot a 30 second lapse in the different graphs so you can see the difference between being docked and undocked...but I doubt that will be needed. ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong."
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:36:00 - [28] Edited by: Zeba on 05/02/2009 05:37:14 Already had rivatuner installed with the fan set to 90% so cooling is not the issue as it spiked to 90c from its normal 45~50c range and probably would have gone well beyond even that if I had not hit the power button. Again no other game including eve has ever done this before and it was completely due to some driver/client conflict for that specific setting. I could probably make another game do it if the same synergistic conflict could be set up.
Shereza	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:50:00 - [29] Frankly, I think the problem is deeper than some people think. I run an Athlon 2600+ XP CPU with 2gb of RAM and a Radeon x1650 video card (Diamond built. 512mb RAM) and the fix suggested in the original post is completely worthless to me. I only exceed 60 FPS when I run the classic client. I almost never exceed it on premium graphics and, even when docked, rarely hit 50 FPS. I can hit almost 160 in classic with the windows shut off (ctrl+F9) while docked but that's as high as I can go. Regardless I went from 52c base/desktop temperature to 72/73c while docked to 62-64c while in a mission and then, while still in space, had the temperature jump to 70-72c and then jump again to 84-85c when I docked. Desktop: 52c Initial dock: 72c Initial mission: 63c End mission: 71c End dock: 84c I fiddled with interval immediate and whatnot but since my refresh rate is 60 Hz and my FPS almost ever hits 50 in premium graphics, especially not in any situation where I intend to play the game (and therefore have windows/etc. open), I didn't expect it to fix anything and it didn't. In point of fact, and here's the real funny thing, the only thing that I have found to work is setting up a second monitor output, run 2 clients on 2 monitors, 1 per monitor, and lower my FPS. Even that semi-fix is largely gone since I stopped using Omega drivers and went back to ATI drivers it seems. I've really only noticed the problem since I installed the Omega drivers but that's likely simply due to the fact that I never had accurate heat monitoring programs until then either. I just really don't get how being docked is so much more graphically intensive than being in the middle of a mission, much less just being undocked outside a station, that it boosts my GPU temperature by 10 degrees and boosts it by approximately that same amount every time I dock. It's never 5 degrees, it's never 15, it's always 9-11. That's the part that really bugs me. Even in the dead of summer when I had to have the side panel off and a floor fan aimed right into my tower (at a distance since the thing was so poorly magnetically shielded that it caused hard drive issues) because I had no AC and my system temp. was in the 50-60c range and my GPU hit 83-85c while undocked it only went up to 93-95c while docked.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.05 08:46:00 - [30] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Zeba What are you on about? I didn't say it was eves fault I stated the combination of vid driver and eve settings that caused this state and how to remedy the situation. If your looking to have a nonsensical circular argument then go camp some wartargets in Jita 4-4 and smack talk in local or something. First off, what are you talking about? I wasn't aware we wardecced people. Except under situations in which it is hilarious. Secondly, I believe there is an issues and workaround forum. If you can't figure out which forum to properly place your post in, why should anyone even bother? Thirdly, how to remedy the situation is by not having **** hardware. Failing that, this being an obvious hardware problem, and not in fact a problem with Eve, there are perhaps a hundred better places to look for info on how to solve it. But then again, what do I know? I'm just sitting here in Jita doing whatever it is pubbies thing we do. Wors of a moron.
Elysarian Minmatar dudetruck corp	Posted - 2009.02.05 19:31:00 - [31] Edited by: Elysarian on 05/02/2009 19:31:32 Originally by: Shereza I run an Athlon 2600+ XP CPU with 2gb of RAM and a Radeon x1650 video card (Diamond built. 512mb RAM) and the fix suggested in the original post is completely worthless to me. Only picked out the part that's relevant to my argunent here: OLD HARDWARE! - open your case and see how much dust is trapped under your fans (all of them - CPU, GPU, Case fans and PSU) - you might be surprised... As for the issues people are having: Discount SLI as a cause - why? - I run SLI, I get around 200FPS in station, 600+ when warping. Discount OC - Why? - my GPU's are both overclocked, I don't overheat. Setting Present Interval to one is only a workaround for poor cooling IMO. For the record: Phenom II 940 @ 3GHz (soon to OC) 2x Geforce 8800 in SLI 6GB RAM Vista x64 No overheating issues. EDIT: buggered up the quote. ===================================== It smells of spoon! =====================================
Shereza	Posted - 2009.02.05 20:40:00 - [32] Edited by: Shereza on 05/02/2009 20:39:47 Originally by: Elysarian Only picked out the part that's relevant to my argunent here: OLD HARDWARE! - open your case and see how much dust is trapped under your fans (all of them - CPU, GPU, Case fans and PSU) - you might be surprised... Actually, I wouldn't be. I cleaned out a PSU after owning it for 4 years and it took me another week to clean up all the crap that came out of it. That aside, it's been less than a year since I last cleaned off the heat sink on my CPU and installed the video card which was pristine when it went in. RAM never builds up much dust and really the only serious dust collectors are the "backs" of my expansion cards (audio, video) which seem to attract more dust than any two heat sinks and/or fans combined. Either way dust doesn't cause space stations in EVE to raise my GPU temperature by 10 degrees regardless of all other circumstances. The equipment's old and it's nowhere near pristine but there's not a whole lot I can do about that, especially considering how often I have to keep the side panel off just to fiddle with the drives and such, but I can guarantee it's not the hardware that's causing this 10 degree difference in heat. Whether they run hotter or cooler every other game I play, so far as I can tell, runs at the same temperature from start to finish. EVE is the only one with a variable temperature. ____________________ Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval.
Kaakao Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.05 21:47:00 - [33] Edited by: Kaakao on 05/02/2009 21:46:57 Try this: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/ Does it get your vid card hotter than EVE? It should. What I'm after here is that your cooling sucks and many games don't normally use every bit of juice your vid card has to offer. Furmark does a good job on getting the card to its max temperature.
Shereza	Posted - 2009.02.06 07:43:00 - [34] null Originally by: Kaakao Edited by: Kaakao on 05/02/2009 22:22:04 Edited by: Kaakao on 05/02/2009 22:20:14 Edited by: Kaakao on 05/02/2009 21:46:57 Try this: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/ Does it get your video card hotter than EVE? It should. What I'm after here is that your cooling sucks and many games don't normally use every bit of juice your video card has to offer. FurMark does a good job on getting the card to its max temperature. edit: Spent some time testing and measuring the temps with Rivatuner. FurMark extreme burn running full screen (12801024) for 5 minutes = about 89c core temp EVE docked ~170 fps for about 5 minutes = 82c core temp EVE orbiting a station ~140 fps for about 5 minutes = 80c core temp EVE running in 1280960 window, max graphics in game, no AA or other unsupported tweaks. edit2: sigh I'm running a 8800GTS512 with stock cooler with automatic fan speed set by Rivatuner. For myself personally the hottest my GPU went while running that benchmark was 87c and that's while I was bored and trying to surf the web too. As long as it retained focus the temperature hovered around 84c which, actually, is pretty much exactly what EVE often puts my GPU at. Most of the time while docked it's in the mid 70s but every now and then it'll run +10c over what it should, docked and undocked. Heh, lovely benchmark program by the way, I was only pulling an average of 4 FPS or so in the burn mode @ 84-87c over a span of 7 minutes. With EVE I was pulling about 47/48 FPS @ 75c while docked (dropped to 35 FPS when I went from an arbitrator and helios to navy megathron) and 25 (when the station was in view) to 46 (when it wasn't) FPS @ 67c while undocked. I personally don't think EVE has ever "over-heated" my video card, especially seeing as the lockups I experienced when my GPU hit 95c were still there even when it ran 10c cooler, but there's something darned odd about being docked and how it'll cause the GPU to crank out even more heat than being in the middle of combat will. Of course the fan and heat sink on my GPU might not quite be "stock," but it's probably not the best either. ____________________ Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.06 09:31:00 - [35] Edited by: Zeba on 06/02/2009 09:31:45 I can run multiple eve clients at outragious framerates both in space and docked and never got a bit of overheating until I turned on force v-sync with interval immediate. Thats when it shot the temp past 90c from its normal 50ish c. This is my card and the heatsink is a complete additional card that takes up a second slot and vents outside the case. This is the inside of my case so you can see it gets plenty of fresh cool air directly to the card in addition to the rear, front and powersupply mounted 120mm fans with an 80mm for good measure between the sidewall and cpu air funnel. This is not inadaquate cooling at work.
Elysarian Minmatar dudetruck corp	Posted - 2009.02.06 17:13:00 - [36] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 06/02/2009 09:31:45 I can run multiple eve clients at outragious framerates both in space and docked and never got a bit of overheating until I turned on force v-sync with interval immediate. Thats when it shot the temp past 90c from its normal 50ish c. This is my card and the heatsink is a complete additional card that takes up a second slot and vents outside the case. This is the inside of my case so you can see it gets plenty of fresh cool air directly to the card in addition to the rear, front and powersupply mounted 120mm fans with an 80mm for good measure between the sidewall and cpu air funnel. This is not inadaquate cooling at work. Actually... it still could be. That case is identical to the one my brother has - the biggest problems with a case like that are that the "funnel" over the CPU obstructs airflow to some extent and the intake fan at the front will be obstructed by your HDD(s) and the front of your case. The rear fan and PSU fan just circulate air around the CPU & any air getting to your gfx card (if it isn't just stale air from the bottom of the case) has been warmed up some by your HDD. You fail to mention which of your fans are set up as intake and which as exhaust (incidentally, if you have a top-mounted fan on your CPU heatsink that's bigger than 80mm then the side fan will only reduce the airflow through the funnel, if you have a side-mounted CPU fan then the 80mm is practically useless and just adding to the noise levels generated by your PC). if you want more airflow over the GPU then I'd suggest modding the case to fit another 120mm fan where that grille is above your PCI/PCI-E slots
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.06 17:41:00 - [37] And yet for all that you typed all I had to do to keep my card from overheating on the one single game it ever overheated on due to me experimenting with some settings that I probably didn't really need to experiment with that somehow caused the gpu to go into china syndrome toaster mode was to not set it at those settings and poof no overheating. So now as was the case before the great experiment all my games are running at max settings including eve with forced aa and hdr on multiple clients and with all that never gets the gpu past 60c. Unless of course I set the drivers to force vsync and eve to interval immediate that is. Doing that must cause some sort of air flow blockage it seems. Silly me for not figuring that out sooner. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Elysarian Minmatar dudetruck corp	Posted - 2009.02.06 19:44:00 - [38] I do have one question though... Why have CCP still not set the default for "Present Interval" to "Interval One"? cures almost every overheating problem relating to gfx cards. Incidentally: setting "force Vsynch" or it's equivalent to "on" in your driver should have the same effect as setting present interval to one (present interval one means Eve will only redraw once per frame - same as switching on V-synch) ===================================== It smells of spoon! =====================================
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.06 19:52:00 - [39] Originally by: Elysarian I do have one question though... Why have CCP still not set the default for "Present Interval" to "Interval One"? cures almost every overheating problem relating to gfx cards. Maybe they are taking the 'adapt or die' method a little too far by implimenting it into very ui and setting menus themselves? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Dog Nob Caldari DRAGONSLAYERS	Posted - 2009.02.14 07:06:00 - [40] When you are docked there is a very smooth and simple method to stop the heating from happening: - activate the Map. You will have the universe map as background and your graphic card will go back to sleeping beauty fast. I can confirm that on my 8800 gt gfx pc i get the same issue.. the card just goes bananas when in station. the above procedure sorts it but would be nice to get ccp to implement code in game to fix it. inappropriate content in signature removed. ~WeatherMan
Drak'meh Grakh	Posted - 2009.02.14 17:01:00 - [41] I have the same issue when running 2 clients. Being docked in station sucks up video resources like crazy for some reason, and on warm days I have had issues with the video card fan kicking into overdrive to cool the card down. When I run 2 clients I always try to get out of station as fast as possible to avoid this issue (not to mention the horrible lag across both clients). I've played with turning off my station environment to no success. I'll try some of the other suggestions posted here and see if they make a difference.
Arous Drephius Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.14 22:08:00 - [42] Originally by: Dog Nob When you are docked there is a very smooth and simple method to stop the heating from happening: - activate the Map. You will have the universe map as background and your graphic card will go back to sleeping beauty fast. I can confirm that on my 8800 gt gfx pc i get the same issue.. the card just goes bananas when in station. the above procedure sorts it but would be nice to get ccp to implement code in game to fix it. Confirming that this works great with my 9800GT. The problem I have here is evidently related to the GPU saying a big **** you to my network card when I'm in station...

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