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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.05 01:10:00 -
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Unanounced as functional yet, the "buy PLEX directly from CCP" system is operational. Well, sort of, anyway, since people are reporting some confusions on how exactly it works or should work... but it works. You can find it as last link on the lower right under "My Account".
The bad news ? 2xPLEX costs 34.99, and there's absolutely no discount for 4xPLEX nor 6xPLEX. I can only guess the trend in the previous weeks regarding PLEX prices (the one before the redeeming system was announced) should see a big, bad come-back.
Well, that is, unless that's just the provisional price, to be modified later on.
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Dani SP
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.02.05 01:36:00 -
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30dPLEX costs about 320millions ISK, so it's still cheaper to buy it with real life money.
at least for me since I don't earn 160mil isk per hour :) |

Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.05 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dani SP 30dPLEX costs about 320millions ISK, so it's still cheaper to buy it with real life money.
at least for me since I don't earn 160mil isk per hour :)
They used to cost 360+ mil. What Akita means is that they may go up again to that level. However I've noticed that price changes on the forums were faster, while the ingame market have much more inertia. I think they will take an upward trend again, but it may not be an immediate rise (not as fast as they plummeted, I mean).
Then again, March 10 is getting close and that will surely push them up in and by itself.
I'm holding on my GTCs for the moment.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers. -- Sheriff Jones
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Sikozu Prioris
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 02:05:00 -
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OH LOL.
For us people in Europe it costs 35euros. Epic fail ccp. I'll stick with the $35 time cards and convert them thanks.
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.05 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sikozu Prioris OH LOL.
For us people in Europe it costs 35euros. Epic fail ccp. I'll stick with the $35 time cards and convert them thanks.
GTCs bought in Europe (that is from CCP) have always costed like that. No news here. And yes: that's the only reason a lot of europeans use GTCs AND buy them from US resellers.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers. -- Sheriff Jones
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.05 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dani SP 30dPLEX costs about 320millions ISK, so it's still cheaper to buy it with real life money. at least for me since I don't earn 160mil isk per hour :)
PLEX started at around 310 mil, they dropped to around 290 mil fast, then kept increasing with some fluctuations. They were selling for as high as 390 mil before the "redeeming system" was announced.
Immediately after the announcement of the upcoming redeeming system, they started a rather quick plummet, and you could get them for 310 mil again, just a couple of hours ago. You probably still can, now and tomorrow, but two days from now, not very likely. Since now we know that there will be absolutely no discount from the GTC price, and since you CAN'T buy a single one either (and HAVE to buy in pairs), the reason they dropped in the first place is no longer there.
As a side-note, an account with 3 near-maxed datacore collection characters (L5 science, L4 RPM/Nego/Conn) can passively collect the equivalent of roughly 350 mil ISK a month in Mechanical Engineering datacores (not the best but a reasonably steady datacore type), or around 420 mil ISK per month in Laser Physics datacores (the best ones right now), at the current market prices. Yeah, sure, not everybody has such accounts, but it's a possibility to be considered.
Also, not everybody can earn 17.5$ in two hours, especially not as "additional work" income. There are countries with EVE players where you should be quite happy to earn that in 20 hours, and you can't exactly earn more per month as you already do, since even having a "first job" is hard enough. For those particular people, it would be worth more to pay in ISK even if prices would keep rising for a while.
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Raymon James
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.05 03:59:00 -
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Good good
between my Dcore alts and plexe sales I will be making enough to subsize my ongoing effort do Drive finished goods priced to 10% of base mineral costs!
Im just kidding people! |

Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:46:00 -
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Definite epic fail here. But it's the thought that counts.
CCP still wants to 'fix' the out of reach pricing of gametime. They'll keep trying, of course. Providing for trading opportunities like these.
If the credit card fraud doesn't materialize yeah, I'm highly encouraged re: pushing PLEXes to 1B/month. This time for sure! |

LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:58:00 -
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Do we really need another thread on this when there's a 5 page thread back on page 2? |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:58:00 -
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Like you said, it's on page two... and the title does not reflect current developments at all, quite the opposite.
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Permadocked Panda
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Posted - 2009.02.05 10:51:00 -
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Hay guise, Akita picked up a bunch of PLEX at the low last week, let's push the price back up!!!11
/sarcasm :p |

Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.02.05 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Man on 05/02/2009 15:51:23
Originally by: Permadocked Panda Hay guise, Akita picked up a bunch of PLEX at the low last week, let's push the price back up!!!11
Fixed no need for the sarcasm.
I called "manipulated" crash in the last thread.
Also look at the Jita market and notice the big stacks of plex (eg one for 57 units that keeps appearing trashing 5-10 mill off of the lowest sell price waits for a few lemmings to follow then "dissapears" while all the lemmings sell out.
Also notice how much the volume has increased now they are nice and cheap. Not a stead rise obviously someone stockpiling
Part 1 1) Plex introduced 2) let them settle for a few weeks to get an idea of current supply/demand. 3) Buy out a large portion of the daily supply (Ricdics and others) and hold onto it 4) Demand spike takes hold as prices start to increase. 5) Spread as much propaganda on the interweb about how safe an investment Plex's are (Majority of the active MD community hmmm wonder how many had fingers in the pie) 6) Sell out majority of original stock at massive profits but retain enough for part 2.
Part 2 1) Now spread propaganda about the "Crash" that's about to hit. 2) Use your remaining cheap stock from original manipulation to simulate excess supply and start reducing prices. 3) Continue getting people panicked about price so they all undercut and keep the crash going. 4) once price are nice and low, go back to part 1 step 2
This is where we are now, Akita is just providing the propaganda for the latest manipulation.
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WarlockX
Amarr Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.05 16:08:00 -
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I already posted a thread informing ppl that the crash was manipulation. Noone cared. That's ok more money for me... ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
"Nothing about Eve should be easy. Not even ganking." -Rhohan
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achoura
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Posted - 2009.02.05 16:27:00 -
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Well cutting the middle man out means more money for ccp. Or at least it would if they hadn't (once again) chosen to ignore the fact that alot of people either cont have credit cards ior don't hand them out to more companies than they can help. I.e if you have a debit card (pretty much everyone with a bank account - what percentage of the user base is that again?) or a payapl account, pretty much everyone who likes not having to worry about being told someone on the other side of the globe has been spending their money, you're still being shafted by ccp.
I'm picking on this specifically because i've seen people complaining about the lack of both for longer than i've been playing the game, 3+ years. On top of which it actually costs you more to by from the actual supplier which only provides one of the three main payment methods, than if you buy from a reseller that accepts all three.  ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |

Astarte Nosferatu
Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.05 16:31:00 -
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I for one see Plex prices go up to 380mil again before the expansion.
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Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2009.02.05 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu I for one see Plex prices go up to 380mil again before the expansion.
they were higher before the downward manipulation so expect 400 + in the next 2 weeks |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.05 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Man
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu I for one see Plex prices go up to 380mil again before the expansion.
they were higher before the downward manipulation so expect 400 + in the next 2 weeks
Gotta agree here, I said hold em till near patch day once the price seemed to bottom. |

Astarte Nosferatu
Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.05 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Gotta agree here, I said hold em till near patch day once the price seemed to bottom.
I sold mine at 375mil when prices started to fall, having bought them at 330-345mil. Now buying again at 320-335mil to resell after patch at 400+. This coupled with Orca, Covert Ops ship, Covert Ops Cloaking Device, Blockade Runner, Moon Material, mineral and Implant speculation is going to make me quite a few bil, if not 10bil+.
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Alex555
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Posted - 2009.02.05 20:02:00 -
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i wonder what will ccp do next if plex prices hit 400mln again?
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.02.05 20:03:00 -
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Where can I buy PLEX options or futures? Is there a PLEX Reserve venture? Block Ukx?!
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zacuis
Great Big Research
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Posted - 2009.02.05 23:17:00 -
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im personnaly very unhapp about ccps handling of this issue and anyone that pays for eve with isk should be also. it was a exellent chance to lower the isk value of a plex and they didnt. i just wonder why would love to hear why.
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Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.02.06 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond Where can I buy PLEX options or futures? Is there a PLEX Reserve venture? Block Ukx?!
you can just buy the plex at 300 million like I'm doing and hope and pray that they will raise to 350-400 million.
Still holding onto a few orcas for the market to turn.
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Aricaan
Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.02.06 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: zacuis im personnaly very unhapp about ccps handling of this issue and anyone that pays for eve with isk should be also. it was a exellent chance to lower the isk value of a plex and they didnt. i just wonder why would love to hear why.
I gotta disagree... the lower in value they go, the more likely people will use illegal ways to get their isk. |

Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.06 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: Clair Bear on 06/02/2009 04:36:30
Originally by: Dreamwalker
you can just buy the plex at 300 million like I'm doing and hope and pray that they will raise to 350-400 million.
Confirming I will be receiving ISK from a PLEX runup due to the absolute NO OP event of the direct sales from the web site.
Good thing too. I needed somewhere to park my money while the whole t2 materials insanity settles down. |

Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Clair Bear Edited by: Clair Bear on 06/02/2009 04:36:30
Originally by: Dreamwalker
you can just buy the plex at 300 million like I'm doing and hope and pray that they will raise to 350-400 million.
Confirming I will be receiving ISK from a PLEX runup due to the absolute NO OP event of the direct sales from the web site.
Good thing too. I needed somewhere to park my money while the whole t2 materials insanity settles down.
Or you can tied up all your isk and run missions because you don't want to sell anything as the bulls are running. |

Alex555
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Posted - 2009.02.06 07:14:00 -
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i witness a massive sell-off al over the eve universe. seems like people dont want to wait till next expasion
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Aricaan
Originally by: zacuis im personnaly very unhapp about ccps handling of this issue and anyone that pays for eve with isk should be also. it was a exellent chance to lower the isk value of a plex and they didnt. i just wonder why would love to hear why.
I gotta disagree... the lower in value they go, the more likely people will use illegal ways to get their isk.
This I'll agree with, its in the designers best intentions to make purchasing ISK (since effectively that's what GTC and PLEXs are about) easier and rewarding enough to stray them from RMT on ebay and the likes. |

echohead
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Posted - 2009.02.06 23:02:00 -
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regarding the plex market being manipulated by players to cause a crash all I have to say is:
What a cool game! Seriously, do WOW players ever have to worry about stuff like this? |

Juliet SoulBurner
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:56:00 -
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Isk is FREE and unlimited, but real money is not.
Why people sell plexes so cheap is something i do not understand, shouldnt they be like 1B to 2B per 30 days since you can make more then that in a few days of play?
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Astarte Nosferatu
Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:57:00 -
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It is quite funny though, prices are reaching as low as 300mil nowadays.
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