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Joachim LeHigh Caldari Vivi Vox Veritas Aegis Militia	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:03:00 - [1] Let's consider this. This could actually an excellent thing for eve, provided they don't restore BoB (which I don't think they will or even can). With the power vacuum in Delve, Pandemic Legion, Northern Coalition, Goons, maybe Imperial Republic of the North are all going to make a move on that wonderfully empty and ripe for the taking Blood Raider territory. What is going to result is a great deal of dramatic and exciting PVP and coalitions and alliances will be formed, broken, territory will move back and forth between the hands of various alliances and it will be pretty exciting for them. This will also get those large alliances involved in something, rather than boredly picking on smaller alliance,s because they have nothing better to do, because their position in EVE has become stagnant. In turn, these smaller alliances will have to grow and make a name for themselves, and perhaps even make a move against those larger alliances, leading to more intrigue and fun for all. So rather than waggling your e-peens at each other and saying "Oh CCP will do this, CCP will do that" and all of the other smack and idiocy going on on COAD right now, let's wait for CCP to actually post an OFFICIAL response and try to curb the hearsay?
Dog Solitude Minmatar Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:07:00 - [2] Edited by: Dog Solitude on 05/02/2009 05:07:17 The epic proportions of todays epicness will surely echo in the corridors of time for all eternity....epically. /edit: I too, feel epic.
Fire Ants Caldari The Greater Goon	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:14:00 - [3] I'll bring the chips.
Synapse Archae Amarr Demonic Retribution Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:16:00 - [4] Edited by: Synapse Archae on 05/02/2009 05:16:56 Edited by: Synapse Archae on 05/02/2009 05:16:03 Not a good thing for eve. What makes eve tick is the players and the shared things they can build together. BoB lost their alliance (more important of a shared object than anything else) to a rage-quitting director, not to any kind of battle. Its NOT the kind of experience that will make anyone stay in or start in Eve, because it's kind of a dumb weak ending to something with so much energy put into it. In the end this will weaken Eve because we will lose players over it. Nobody joins the game because they think it will be epic to have their alliance disbanded by a spy. Screw that they will play something else. We will lose BoB players for sure, we will probably lose others, and I don't see it bringing anyone new to the game like an epic battle over delve would. Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Andrzej Poastewicz Caldari THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:23:00 - [5] ya, definitely good thing that people know you can hack account, disband alliance, and rest easy to know ccp don't do anything about it but maybe ban scapegoat accts. funny to see NC celebrate it, supposed anti-meta game group who *** like *** since 2005 at slight hint of techniques.
Space Hog Minmatar NEW DAWN CO INTERDICTION	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:24:00 - [6] resv Recruitment
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:26:00 - [7] it could be a very boring next 6 months
Mr Ignitious Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Synapse Archae Edited by: Synapse Archae on 05/02/2009 05:16:56 Edited by: Synapse Archae on 05/02/2009 05:16:03 Not a good thing for eve. What makes eve tick is the players and the shared things they can build together. BoB lost their alliance (more important of a shared object than anything else) to a rage-quitting director, not to any kind of battle. Its NOT the kind of experience that will make anyone stay in or start in Eve, because it's kind of a dumb weak ending to something with so much energy put into it. In the end this will weaken Eve because we will lose players over it. Nobody joins the game because they think it will be epic to have their alliance disbanded by a spy. Screw that they will play something else. We will lose BoB players for sure, we will probably lose others, and I don't see it bringing anyone new to the game like an epic battle over delve would. funny how such huge intimidating things can end quite anticlimactically... Hm, such as it should be. BoB was a static, boring force in EvE. It will be good to have a fresh new fight for space again. Originally by: CCP Zulupark WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
Havoc GunStar Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:27:00 - [9] Quote: Its NOT the kind of experience that will make anyone stay in or start in Eve, because it's kind of a dumb weak ending to something with so much energy put into it. Are we talking about BoB disbanding here, or their recent fleet performance?
Zapp Brannigahn Amarr Interstellar Defense Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:27:00 - [10] lol IRON doing anything
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:31:00 - [11] Regardless of all the goons and NC chest beating, Guess what guys? Your still trash. 1 man did more damage to BoB then you ever have and ever will. Then again I'm sure you'll go on about "lol rp corp" "we are destined to fail because we are GS" "blah blah blah bitter blah" All of BoB and Ex-BoB has always, and will always, be better then you, and there's not a damn thing you can do.
Havoc GunStar Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:32:00 - [12] Yes indeed FINFLEET IS THE BEST CORP IN BOB
is 4porn Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:37:00 - [13] imo the only real effect of this is goon morale soaring to an annoyingly new high bob will have to retreat from the south for a while, the GBC will have to stop..... well, losing ships to PL posgunners in aridia for while ( :P ) but in the end there will still be a crapload of ppl in delve, and plenty of exe/pet sov, so any half competent alliance that think they can now 'take a slice of delve' will fail hard. AAA is in for a cup of **** though, gl lolrp'ers :)
Daoi Sith Gallente Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.02.05 05:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Andrzej Poastewicz ya, definitely good thing that people know you can hack account, disband alliance, and rest easy to know ccp don't do anything about it but maybe ban scapegoat accts. funny to see NC celebrate it, supposed anti-meta game group who *** like *** since 2005 at slight hint of techniques. do you have proof it was a hack ? information so far is that a BoB director (Haargoth Agamar) simply used his roles to disband alliance. this appears to be in-game mechanics not a hack. its not even metagaming. its simply the harsh environment of EvE. one toon switched sides and poof, buh bye.
De Guantanamo Gallente Red White and Screwed	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Andrzej Poastewicz ya, definitely good thing that people know you can hack account, disband alliance, and rest easy to know ccp don't do anything about it but maybe ban scapegoat accts. funny to see NC celebrate it, supposed anti-meta game group who *** like *** since 2005 at slight hint of techniques. ex-BoB alt spotted
Perne Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Havoc GunStar Yes indeed FINFLEET WAS THE BEST CORP IN BOB fixed
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.02.05 06:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Andrzej Poastewicz ya, definitely good thing that people know you can hack account, disband alliance, and rest easy to know ccp don't do anything about it but maybe ban scapegoat accts. funny to see NC celebrate it, supposed anti-meta game group who *** like *** since 2005 at slight hint of techniques. Sorry to burst your illusion, but Haargoth didn't get hacked.
Herencia Rota Caldari The Knights of Eire	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:04:00 - [18] Exept when the goons take all the good moons and T2 prices go to the ruins.
Kami Rikiushi Caldari Federation	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Andrzej Poastewicz ya, definitely good thing that people know you can hack account, disband alliance, and rest easy to know ccp don't do anything about it but maybe ban scapegoat accts. funny to see NC celebrate it, supposed anti-meta game group who *** like *** since 2005 at slight hint of techniques. Sux doesn't it? When the masters of meta-gaming, get metagamed by the nono's called goons ;) Cry more, your tears are deff not bitter enough :D
Hyveres Caldari The Milano friendship committee of Norway	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:17:00 - [20] Who cares its just 0.0 politics that wont affect the majority of players anyway. "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound
Shubs Gallente coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:23:00 - [21] no the game will be completely and utterly sit without BoB, everyone will be blue and it wont just be northern coalition it'l be "EvE coalition" suppose you guys could all go shoot the rats together or run plex's ;/, i know this is game mechanics but thats really low and pathetic, just shows they couldnt fight bob properly and had to resort to this, hopefuly CCP will do something about it Pack it up, Pack it in, come on let it begin! - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo -*
kano donn Amarr Phase Line Alpha	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:34:00 - [22] anyone ever think that this might make goon fleet the dominant force when T3 comes out?
leboe Gallente Dark Star Cartel Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:38:00 - [23] Ok, goons won eve, now...global standings reset!
Hera Vertigo Caldari Meridian Dynamics Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2009.02.05 07:40:00 - [24] Edited by: Hera Vertigo on 05/02/2009 07:42:07 What happened today was an exploit. Its one of those exploits that doesnt get taken seriously until it happens. I can "barely" understand spying and corp theft being a vaild tactic but this... this is just horrid. I wouldn't wish what has happened today on anyone. The fact that the Goons did such an act that no only affects a corp but the entire EVE overnight just tells you more about what the Goons are about. Also, if CCP does not react, which I suspect they won't its is going to effect EVE long term for a long long time. It may even blow out CCP's recent advances in the money / membership department. Imagine all the time they have been spending tring to get new players into EVE only have have twice as many leave the game forever in a 2 week span. Lets see if they will be able to have enough capital to keep the servers online. Considering CCP are based in Iceland where they are IRL having serious financial issues, a sudden revenue drop can have untold consequences. So in a nutshell I hope CCP does something about this. But if they don't they might be putting their entire company at risk over a concept that should have been fixed years ago. But then again. Look at the recent Moon Mining scam.. Eitherway, its a pretty crappy way to even the score. For those who think this will open up the space lanes to smaller entities.. Think again.. But if you need proof.. Just take a look at the drone regions. Guess it is time for the NC, PL, Goon, RA and alt alliances, power blocs to declare war on each other to keep it interesting. But I suspect they won't.. But you never know what the future holds.. But I feel its going to be a bleak year.
FlameGlow Caldari Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.05 08:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Hera Vertigo Edited by: Hera Vertigo on 05/02/2009 07:42:07 What happened today was an exploit. Its one of those exploits that doesnt get taken seriously until it happens. I can "barely" understand spying and corp theft being a vaild tactic but this... this is just horrid. I wouldn't wish what has happened today on anyone. BoB were using spies to gain advantage all the time, is it's an exploit they sould have been banned long ago They'll just have to reform the alliance and actually fight for Delve instead of turtling up behind cynojammers and titans. Should be fun for a month or so, before sov gets back up _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button.
Zemi Dahut Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 08:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Hera Vertigo Edited by: Hera Vertigo on 05/02/2009 07:42:07 What happened today was an exploit. Its one of those exploits that doesnt get taken seriously until it happens. I can "barely" understand spying and corp theft being a vaild tactic but this... this is just horrid. I wouldn't wish what has happened today on anyone. The fact that the Goons did such an act that no only affects a corp but the entire EVE overnight just tells you more about what the Goons are about. Also, if CCP does not react, which I suspect they won't its is going to effect EVE long term for a long long time. It may even blow out CCP's recent advances in the money / membership department. Imagine all the time they have been spending tring to get new players into EVE only have have twice as many leave the game forever in a 2 week span. Lets see if they will be able to have enough capital to keep the servers online. Considering CCP are based in Iceland where they are IRL having serious financial issues, a sudden revenue drop can have untold consequences. So in a nutshell I hope CCP does something about this. But if they don't they might be putting their entire company at risk over a concept that should have been fixed years ago. But then again. Look at the recent Moon Mining scam.. Eitherway, its a pretty crappy way to even the score. For those who think this will open up the space lanes to smaller entities.. Think again.. But if you need proof.. Just take a look at the drone regions. Guess it is time for the NC, PL, Goon, RA and alt alliances, power blocs to declare war on each other to keep it interesting. But I suspect they won't.. But you never know what the future holds.. But I feel its going to be a bleak year. I notice you didn't say anything when Jack Noble used a director level spy to reset Sov in DG- so I'll take this hurf blurf with a grain of salt.
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 09:31:00 - [27] Originally by: Hera Vertigo Edited by: Hera Vertigo on 05/02/2009 07:42:07 What happened today was an exploit. Its one of those exploits that doesnt get taken seriously until it happens. I can "barely" understand spying and corp theft being a vaild tactic but this... this is just horrid. I wouldn't wish what has happened today on anyone. The fact that the Goons did such an act that no only affects a corp but the entire EVE overnight just tells you more about what the Goons are about. Also, if CCP does not react, which I suspect they won't its is going to effect EVE long term for a long long time. It may even blow out CCP's recent advances in the money / membership department. Imagine all the time they have been spending tring to get new players into EVE only have have twice as many leave the game forever in a 2 week span. Lets see if they will be able to have enough capital to keep the servers online. Considering CCP are based in Iceland where they are IRL having serious financial issues, a sudden revenue drop can have untold consequences. So in a nutshell I hope CCP does something about this. But if they don't they might be putting their entire company at risk over a concept that should have been fixed years ago. But then again. Look at the recent Moon Mining scam.. Eitherway, its a pretty crappy way to even the score. For those who think this will open up the space lanes to smaller entities.. Think again.. But if you need proof.. Just take a look at the drone regions. Guess it is time for the NC, PL, Goon, RA and alt alliances, power blocs to declare war on each other to keep it interesting. But I suspect they won't.. But you never know what the future holds.. But I feel its going to be a bleak year. What goes around...comes around. No one deserved this more than TAFKAB.
Azeroth Uluntil Caldari HOMELESS. The Shelter	Posted - 2009.02.05 09:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Zapp Brannigahn lol IRON doing anything /signed A dying dog should hurry up and die tbh.
FOl2TY8 Gallente Revolutionary United Front Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.02.05 09:52:00 - [29] One thing for sure is there will be many fights coming. I might go to Delve and see whats goin on. I'd love to see a titan log on and get ambushed. That would make that hour it would take to kill it. ---------- The six paths and the four lives....
FOl2TY8 Gallente Revolutionary United Front Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.02.05 09:57:00 - [30] Who cares if this was an exploit? Apparently it was all within the current game mechanics so it is now a great mmo event. CCP may change security just by making it more intricate. This won't stop players from getting sweet sweet peach pie all over there fingers. ---------- The six paths and the four lives....

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