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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.08 06:04:00 -
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Even after being slaped around with the nerfbat for well over a year the thron is still nice. CCP hasn't killed it just yet....I'm sure they'll try again. 
In gang PvP I use Megathron, Rokh and Scorpian. Really depends on what the gang needs on that day. Nevermind I burned alot of time on training both gallente and calradi battleships to level 5.
As others have said, the amarr battleships are really nice rides now. Considering the pain amarr pilots went through for several years it's about time they had some fun. |
Vanthropy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.08 08:53:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Malakai0
Edited by: Malakai0 on 08/02/2009 04:46:57
Edited by: Malakai0 on 08/02/2009 04:40:50
Edited by: Malakai0 on 08/02/2009 04:39:06
Edited by: Malakai0 on 08/02/2009 04:37:51
As usual on these forums caldari are sorely underestimated and underappreciated in pvp (where we shine the brightest, anyone can do missions or rat).
Torp Raven can hang with any other close range bs in a gang with the primary painted up, buffer tanked. Fairly cheap. And it continues doing 100% damage well beyond blaster range (cept neuts on a rokh with void, and even then 26km is well into falloff),
Scorp is great for RR bs roaming, jamming & remote rep support. And it's practically throwaway considering insurance buys you another ship + fit.
Rokh is the best sniper (can buffer tank it and fit a max range snipe setup, so snipe fleet v snipe fleet you will get out alive much more often than your fleetmates).
Rokh also a decent heavy neut blaster boat, 16km optimal and another 15 falloff with null. With 140k+ effective HP to go with it. This would be that caldari ROCK setup =)
The amarr whining and complaining is pretty lol. They are much more competitive than they used to be but far from OP. As many pointed out each ship has its roles, or in minmatar case the lack of a role being the role =)
hehe, agreed :)
"SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up" |
bluebeyond
DEATHFUNK
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 12:09:00 -
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Simple.
The geddon.
Cheap as shit and can easily get over 1000 DPS with good skills in gunnery and drones.
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BiggestT
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.08 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Rokh, end of discussion. Best range, second-best dps (second only to the Apoc, and not by much), but much easier to fit and tank than any other sniper.
If, for some bizarre reason, your mid-large fleet is not engaging at long range, get an Abaddon with T2 pulses.
This.
Coz hitting cruisers 240km away for 1k alpha is cool mmkay
EVE history
t2 precisions |
naruf
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:47:00 -
[65]
tempest is awesome
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Murina
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:49:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Murina on 08/02/2009 18:49:10
Playing with eft i got this fit for the abaddon.
highs
8 x mega pulse T2
mids
1 mwd T2
1 web T2
1 large cap booster T2
1 point T2
lows
3 x heat sinks T2
2 x eanm T2
1 x 1600 plate T2
1 x dcu T2
rigs
2 trimarks T1
1 dmg rig T1
drones
2 ogres T2
2 hammers T2
1 hobgob T2
110,000 ehp 70% thermal kinetic resists on armour.
1029 dps at 0-15km
873 dps at 15-45km
654ms.
Originally by: 7shining7one7
Lasers get reduced dmg inside optimal if you are approaching with 0 transversal cos lasers fragment when you approach them
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PC5
Pink Bunnies
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.02.10 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: PC5 on 10/02/2009 06:36:38
Edited by: PC5 on 10/02/2009 06:35:10
Edited by: PC5 on 10/02/2009 06:32:35
Originally by: Cyborg94
What is the best pvp Battleship for midsize to large fleets. Fleet has it's own tackle,webs,painter,etc so you don't need to include them in your decision. If you wish to participate please list reasons why you think a certain bs is the best. Thank you.
(I'm using this thread as a guide of which skills to train)
You were asking about BSes for midsize to large fleets. Many forum geniuses havent figured that out and talked about everything but not giving answers. Reading hurts.
1. Pure brutal and simple way (simple is beautiful)
- Abaddon (HP/DPS/range)
- Apoc (same)
- Armag (same)
Forget about other BSes if you want pure DPS hard ship. Amarr are 'the best'.
DMG is all you want. Other BSes in your fleet SHOULD HAVE remote reps to repair you if needed. You also should have at last 1 remote rep to help others. Every BS in fleet SHOULD relay on other ppl remote reping. Lov slots should be tank/hp/dmg modules.
2. Second path... here winner is Scorpion.
Make it GOOD tank armor or shield (you probably want to chose armor because other BSes SHOULD HAVE armor remote reps). Cruise launchers at hi slots, neutralizers, remote rep...
Why scorpion? Because enemy fleet will PRIMARY IT. And your team will REPAIR IT AND SHOOT ENEMY SHIPS ("omg! Scorpion, primary, primary scorpion!!!111"). They will lose time at it and you have time to kill them. Your guys shoud have know that tactic and be ready to repair you. You can even jam your enemies while they are loosing time at you. Figure out best fit for you. Tank is a 'must have'.
And final reason for scorp... remember 2nd worst thing you can do to enemy in fight is... turn him off from fight. 1st one - destroy it. 3rd one is slow it or make him weaker. In all those 3 scorp will do his job very good. He does all 3 points ive mentioned.
1st path is best for exprienced pilot with many SP = good dmg.
2nd dosent require milions of SPs, you just need tank and jaming skills to be good at that role.
Good luck. |
Malvorak
Amarr
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.10 10:04:00 -
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Dude tbh every race as good BS's.
The current "omg awesomesause" is amarr for whatever reason as a few months ago they were the suck (althou they never sucked ppl were just dumb).
I for once have always used amarr ships but i always had a thing for minmatar so atm i'm training minmatar bs 5.
I am a great fan of the tempy, and the mealstrom is just bloody awesome, and as soon as i get my missle skills up to scratch ill be flying a typhoon aswell!!
Also my alt is galente and i can tell you that the domi is just pure joy, and althou its probably the cheapest BS of the game its probably one of the most feared. Also you cant go wrong with a mega, althou you are gonna end up being primary so you have to be carefull.
Amarr are great they always have been tbh, they have good dps gret tanks too, althou they move and alight like a bus with flat tyres, and forget about fitting a mwd in them its pretty much hell.
As for caldari, well never flown them much, but the scorp will always have its place in fleets, a torp raven is always something to be afraid of and the rohk...well never fought against them much, but there were a few blaster ones that were a pain.
But since you are looking for a bs for large fleets go amarr. They have always been the best fleet ships, because of their slot layout, their lack of mid slots make them very hard to use solo, and also they are slow like hell.
Other good chances are rohks, they have awesome range good dps, and its shield resist bonus makes them harder to kill. raven its ok too, althou missles take their time to reach the target.
Minie and galente have nice fleet ships too, althou since they have alot of more utility slots then the amarr and caldari ships, they really shine in small gangs/solo work.
"I wave my private parts at your aunties son of a window dresser" |
Osiris Andras
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Posted - 2009.02.10 10:21:00 -
[69]
nightmare, hands down the best.
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Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.10 11:41:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Euriti on 10/02/2009 11:42:06
[Apocalypse, 200km fleet sniper]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Energy Locus Coordinator I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Only idiots fit 7 guns when it can fit 8.
alternativly for RR gangs:
[Armageddon, RR Armageddon]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 12:12:00 -
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Megathron or Apoc. Very few ships are that versatile/can be used for multiple things, most of the others excel at one thing or another. |
kyrv
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Posted - 2009.02.10 12:15:00 -
[72]
Megathrong
Because I lose against them 9/10 times |
Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.10 12:30:00 -
[73]
Originally by: kyrv
Megathrong
if carlsberg made battleships ....
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