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frdbrlw1989
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:34:00 -
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where do i find Kernite?
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Nakimoto
Caldari
Unnatural Growth
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:45:00 -
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caldari space .4 and below or amarr space .7 and below |
steejans nix
Amarr
0beron Construct
Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:31:00 -
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Enemies abound part 1 , 350k of the stuff  |
Strom Starforge
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Posted - 2009.02.06 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Strom Starforge on 06/02/2009 11:40:00
 Originally by: frdbrlw1989
where do i find Kernite?
Since I mine Arkonor now in 0.0, I'll give up my old kernite spot.
Base yourself out of Bagodan system in Amarr space. Kern spawns there, but goes quickly after spawn. Also can thieves can be a problem there.
There are two systems 1 jump away good for mining, both without stations -- Murzi and Merz. These go quickly too, but not as quick as Bago, and a lot quieter. Spawn days are Wednesday and Monday if I remember right. It may be Monday and Friday -- I'm only 100% sure about Monday spawn.
Bagodan usually has a buy order up for a good price. If it doesn't then Amarr does -- and it's only 3 jumps off. Always mine regular kernite, not firey or luminous, and don't refine it! It sells for twice it's mineral value whole.
There are actually lots of kern systems in Amarr. To the south of Bagodan there is a chain of kernite systems, ending in Uchat. I gave this area up long ago though, as it was overrun by macro miners I think (that or one heck of an organized corp).
So to sum up, base yourself in Bagodan, mine in Merz and Murzi, haul it to Bago, then make periodic trips to market in Amarr.
EDIT: Avoid the lower sec systems like Arton.. you'll get popped there.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2009.02.06 12:10:00 -
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Like the person ^^ said, there's lots of kernite in Amarr space, but everyone wants it so there usually aren't many roids of it.
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Ikserak tai
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Posted - 2009.02.06 15:48:00 -
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Average systems have 4-7 Kernite roids per belt after respawn, they do go quickly as Kernite is a storyline "Minerals for War Preparation" requirement. Sells for 250 Isk+ per unit.
The variations (Fiery and Luminous) sell for less than half that, but are in abundance since basic Kernite sellers ignore them. If you need them for mineral processing, Amarr space is the place.
If you intend to mine basic Kernite for resale, expect to spend a lot of time going belt to belt to find what's left.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.02.06 17:55:00 -
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It's all over Amarr space. I've mined in Kor-Azor, Khanid, Domain, and Tash-Murkon regions. However, my experience is that the asteroids in a belt are usually about 75% fiery kernite, and the remaining 25% split evenly between luminous kernite and kernite. As stated, just the kernite is better to sell unrefined. I found one system once that had those percentages reversed, it was about 75% basic kernite. It was in hi-sec and a couple of jumps from the nearest station, and I had it all to myself for about 2 weeks. Then another corp set up a POS there and started holding mining ops. |
John Hollow
Minmatar
Afterisk
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Posted - 2009.02.06 20:24:00 -
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In my opinion, I think the best way to low-sec mine is to go deep into low-sec. The crossover from .5-.4 is usually a busy one with many gate camps. Warp stab your ship up to max just to make it through the bottleneck, then fly a few jumps deeper in. Once you are further in low-sec, you should be all alone most of the time. And Kernite should be common in most areas.
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Strom Starforge
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Posted - 2009.02.06 22:00:00 -
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The trick with kernite mining is to find systems without stations. The ISK farmers seem to avoid these.
Jumping from belt to belt is no big deal. Even having to jump all around, making lots of cans, kernite is still by far most valuable ore in empire.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2009.02.06 22:52:00 -
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Throw up a POS in a system with no stations, maybe. |
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Thenoran
Caldari
Hegemony Enterprises
HEGEM0NY
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Posted - 2009.02.07 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Thenoran on 07/02/2009 11:54:45
Originally by: John Hollow
In my opinion, I think the best way to low-sec mine is to go deep into low-sec. The crossover from .5-.4 is usually a busy one with many gate camps. Warp stab your ship up to max just to make it through the bottleneck, then fly a few jumps deeper in. Once you are further in low-sec, you should be all alone most of the time. And Kernite should be common in most areas.
Takes far too long for a Covetor (bringing your Hulk to low-sec is fail) to align to anything and low-sec ore is currently worthless compared to high-sec because Isogen and Nocxium prices are down the drain completely.
Better just find a remote high-sec system and do your mining there.
Also, two stabs on a Covetor will wtfkill your scan range, meaning you got like...7km lock range, killing your ability to mine.
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Lil Orphan
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Posted - 2009.02.07 13:46:00 -
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unless you need your kernite for something other than isk, I do not recommend bending over backwards to mine this stuff. If you want to base yourself in a kernite baring system you can find them all the way up 1.0 security level, but the corps targeting kernite right now are very big, very fast and very thorough. Even if you are the early bird on the block, as a solo player with a Hulk you are not likely to cleanup more than one or two belts before the rest are gone. At that point, if you are too stiff necked to give up the ghost and suck on some veld you will completely destroy your isk/hour fruitlessly warping from belt to belt, system to system.
Even when you do get some Kernite, on the current market your unrefined kernite is only about 4/3rds the value of refined veld, and much harder to transport, so that a single load of kernite in hig sec will get you 2/3rds what a full load of trit will. All that extra time transporting is going to once again eat into you overall isk/hour for the enterprise. If you can transport it to low-sec space you can get more than 3x the refined value of Kernite, but here, whatever ship you use will have considerably less cargo room, and you will have a longer haul. This is really a no win situation for small time prospectors. Leave the Kernite to the big boys.
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tonedog2008
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:24:00 -
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just read this
"Even when you do get some Kernite, on the current market your unrefined kernite is only about 4/3rds the value of refined veld"
i dont understand how your workin this out.
current prices
tritanium 4.12 = 1000 tritanium x 4.12 = 4120 isk
kernite 225 = 400 kernite x 225 = 90000 isk
if im missin somethin then i apologise but how do u figure out that refined veldspar (tritanium) is worth more than kernite?
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:04:00 -
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Trit is a mineral. You can fit 100 of any mineral in 1 m3 of cargo space. Kernite takes up 1.2 m3 per unit of ore. Assuming a hypothetical hauler that has exactly 12,000 m3 of cargo space, you can carry 10,000 kernite ore or 1,200,000 tritanium. 10,000 x 225 per unit is 2,250,000 ISK. 1,200,000 x 4.12 = 4,940,000 ISK. You make nearly double the amount of money from one load of trit than one load of kernite.
Now, with a freighter you can move a lot more kernite, and everything depends on how much ore you have to move.
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Thenoran
Caldari
Hegemony Enterprises
HEGEM0NY
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Posted - 2009.02.08 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Trit is a mineral. You can fit 100 of any mineral in 1 m3 of cargo space. Kernite takes up 1.2 m3 per unit of ore. Assuming a hypothetical hauler that has exactly 12,000 m3 of cargo space, you can carry 10,000 kernite ore or 1,200,000 tritanium. 10,000 x 225 per unit is 2,250,000 ISK. 1,200,000 x 4.12 = 4,940,000 ISK. You make nearly double the amount of money from one load of trit than one load of kernite.
Now, with a freighter you can move a lot more kernite, and everything depends on how much ore you have to move.
Kernite refines transport a lot better though :P
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Lil Orphan
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Posted - 2009.02.08 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Trit is a mineral. You can fit 100 of any mineral in 1 m3 of cargo space. Kernite takes up 1.2 m3 per unit of ore. Assuming a hypothetical hauler that has exactly 12,000 m3 of cargo space, you can carry 10,000 kernite ore or 1,200,000 tritanium. 10,000 x 225 per unit is 2,250,000 ISK. 1,200,000 x 4.12 = 4,940,000 ISK. You make nearly double the amount of money from one load of trit than one load of kernite.
Now, with a freighter you can move a lot more kernite, and everything depends on how much ore you have to move.
Kernite refines transport a lot better though :P
This is true, but it defeats the purpose of your kernite enterprise as refined kernite is making you less/hour than veld or scordite.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:50:00 -
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Last time I checked was late December, but at the time refined kernite was worth ~ 96 ISK per m3, while refined veldspar worked out to about 116 per m3. Yes, it's much easier to transport, but in terms of isk/m3 mined selling raw kernite is better than refined veldspar, but refined veldspar beats any other ores in hi-sec.
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CanisBaxton
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:32:00 -
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<-- Keeps a tight lip on where he mines Kernite and veldspar..
The system I go to usually only has a few people in it and the Kernite is usually all MINE bwahahahaha
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:42:00 -
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Better hope you're an alt :)
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Tandin
The Knights Templar
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:36:00 -
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The areas I used to mine it in were either the Amarr cosmos constellation or the highsec pockets in Devoid or Aridia regions. The latter require some logistics work to get it through lowsec to contiguous highsec. I had the help of a friendly jump freighter but that's not a realistic option for most people.
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.02.15 04:38:00 -
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There's plenty of kernite in lowsec. I run missions periodically in a 0.1 system and the belts are full of it. You could try to sneak a covetor out, or just do what I did - buy it near where you intend to mine.
If you don't have a way to get it back to empire you won't make as much, but you'll make a lot more per hour than mining in empire if you find a quiet system.
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Lil Orphan
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Posted - 2009.02.21 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: foobarx
There's plenty of kernite in lowsec. I run missions periodically in a 0.1 system and the belts are full of it. You could try to sneak a covetor out, or just do what I did - buy it near where you intend to mine.
If you don't have a way to get it back to empire you won't make as much, but you'll make a lot more per hour than mining in empire if you find a quiet system.
The issue here is UNREFINED Kernite. If you check with EVE-Central you will see the highest bids are in low-sec most of the time. So, if you are already comfortable with mining in low-sec, stay there and make a better profit.
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Salpad
Caldari
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.02.23 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Last time I checked was late December, but at the time refined kernite was worth ~ 96 ISK per m3, while refined veldspar worked out to about 116 per m3. Yes, it's much easier to transport, but in terms of isk/m3 mined selling raw kernite is better than refined veldspar, but refined veldspar beats any other ores in hi-sec.
My Ore/Refining spreadsheet is only approximately a month out of date, and it says that the difference is even greater. Kernite is like 84 ISK/m3 for the medium type and 129 ISK/m3 for the medium type of veldspar.
But yes, unless you're mining to re-sell to mission runners, veldspar is the way to go, contrary to how CCP intended it to be.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:06:00 -
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Wow, that's quite a drop. From September to late December, I watched a lot of fluctuation in the values of the ores, but Kernite stayed pretty constant between 94 and 97 that entire time. As Mex and Isogen went down, Trit went up, and that compensated a lot in the overall value of refined kernite. I guess Mex and Isogen have both bottomed out now?
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GyokZoli
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:34:00 -
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As you can see here, the absolutely best ore in empire (hisec & lowsec) is veldspar.
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