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Spurty Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:01:00 - [31] oh dear, a character with 5 perception and BS V is so very different to a character with 15perception and BS V ... oh wait a moment ... This respec doesn't change anything, new characters wont get into their titans before older characters, unless the older characters are Luddites and refuse to respec!
Mordekai Bloodwake Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:03:00 - [32] Quote: New characters are now able to redistribute their attribute points at will any time after character creation (Twice for free). This option is available on the Character SheetÆs Attributes screen. Pilots pick their character attributes in a way that supports their expected gameplay. With Attribute Respecification, players will be able to change their core attributes (charisma, intelligence, memory, perception, willpower) within the game. Older characters can now redistribute their attribute points once every six months. I LOVE THAT, i didnt know we will be able to FINALLY change our stats! THANK YOU CCP!
Amy Wang	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:04:00 - [33] Originally by: Rat Scout I either did it wrong or somethign, cause I couldn't change my stats untill I brought my base charisma up to 5. It gave me a message that one of my attributes is too low and my clone will not survive if I plug it in this way. Now i can't go back to retest it, i got a timer for 6 months, but I think archuras with 3 charisma will have to bring up to 5. confirming this now that I tried it, tbh it is only fair, nobody forces fotm achuras to respec their attributes, if they (and others) would be allowed to keep their low attributes at 3 then the base limit would need to be 3 for all races but that would lead to more extreme specs, imho this is a good thing not too happy with the complete elimination of bloodline/race importance other then for looks but well, I guess it is a business decision to make the entry easier and to avoid frustration for new players that "gimped" their chars but to be fair when I created my first char years ago I did some research in guides and forums and created a decent (although not perfect by todays standard) character, if new players cant put that effort in then they should suffer for it, welcome to eve
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:14:00 - [34] Originally by: Hieronymus Alexandre Also, new chars only get ~60k sp (basic ship and fittings to 3), but are compensated with a 100% training speed bonus to 1.6m sp. So yes, all new chars are completely homogenized. Which means that new players can actually follow the standard advice: pick a character that you like the looks/background of, balance attributes and do whatever you want from there. There is no longer a pretense that you were going to do otherwise.
Minmatar Citizen 290574	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:16:00 - [35] i do hope everyone gets a chance to do this... i know exactly what i want to do lol __________________________________________________ I wear my sunglasses....
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:22:00 - [36] Sellout. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As

CCP Hypnotic	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:23:00 - [37] And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW)

Hieronymus Alexandre Fashionable Enterprises	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Ki Tarra Tbh I actually rather like the new system, in principle at lest. Although it would be nice if they keep something to differentiate the races/bloodlines. The bigger issue I see is that all of the currently existing achura/intaki/etc with unbalanced attributes will now have a cemented advantage over chars made after M10 (Regardless of how big of an advantage it arguably is). Anyone else going to fill their empty char slots with "limited edition" achuras for future resale?
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence Force	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:24:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW) will you let me trash an alt immedietely?
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:24:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW) Good luck gettin the whiny mass that is GD to actually test instead of RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.

Awgate	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:28:00 - [41] Take a look at my avatar? Does it look like I have 5 in Charisma! Surprise! It doesnt... I have tons of Memory for some reason, and now I have to put 2 of the points into charisma instead of willpowah? Lame.... Guess ill respec as soon as im done with all the drone skills...
Tuttomenui II Gallente Byrds Research And Development	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:32:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW) If we roll a new alt and give feedback will you max said alts skills to lvl 5 so we can really test the **** out of some of the stuff we wouldnt have access to otherwise? only on SISI of course!! (Cross Quoting FTA) FTA = For The Attention ^^ My Signiture is an actual Signiture WOW!!!^^
Ace2001	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:32:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP Hypnotic And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW) If I had any idea on how to access SiSi, I'd go test it for you. (Yes, I know. I fail. :P I've never bothered to learn how to access the test server. And I would actually like to see the new character creation and whatnot. Sounds fun!)
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:44:00 - [44] Originally by: Ace2001 Originally by: CCP Hypnotic And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW) If I had any idea on how to access SiSi, I'd go test it for you. (Yes, I know. I fail. :P I've never bothered to learn how to access the test server. And I would actually like to see the new character creation and whatnot. Sounds fun!) If your really interested head down to the Game Development Forum and read the stickies on how to connect to SiSi.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:45:00 - [45] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Originally by: CCP Hypnotic And since we're on the topic. Now sounds like a great time to create a new alt to try out the new character creation process, redesigned tutorials, and updated profession missions right? If you do, I will love you. If you do and submit bug reports I will love you even more. (Cross posting FTW) will you let me trash an alt immedietely? once again, this.
Tuttomenui II Gallente Byrds Research And Development	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:49:00 - [46] Originally by: Ace2001 If I had any idea on how to access SiSi, I'd go test it for you. (Yes, I know. I fail. :P I've never bothered to learn how to access the test server. And I would actually like to see the new character creation and whatnot. Sounds fun!) Its quite easy, Copy the contents of your eve directory to a new folder name that folder 'EvE Test Server' So you know what it is, make a short cut of the eve.exe file in your test directory and then right click the shortcut and select properties. In the target line add > /server:87.237.38.50< after the text thats already in the line. Like this: >"C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Test Server\eve.exe" /server:87.237.38.50<.... "><" Minus the arrows of course.. Then try to run it using the short cut and it will ask you to download the update and then once thats installed you can access SISI.. And buy any Item on the market at a seeded station for 100 isk, and have loads of laggy fun doing crap you would never dream of doing on TQ.
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:02:00 - [47] Hmmm interesting, seems like a decent idea, finally i can get decent perc and will.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 09/02/2009 18:11:41 NEW CHARACTERS ONLY??????? Three and a half years ago, EVE's utter crap character creation screen didn't warn me about the dangers of Charisma. I have 14 BASE charisma, what kind of reimbursement do I get? In addition, I've got over 6million in drones and I started with 4 base memory! You need to train Reading Comprehension to at least level I.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Amy Wang not too happy with the complete elimination of bloodline/race importance other then for looks but well, I guess it is a business decision to make the entry easier and to avoid frustration for new players that "gimped" their chars In a way I agree, but it'll be nice to see more people picking races and bloodlines because they actually like them instead of because that race/bloodline offers the "optimal" attribute distribution for whatever career like most people seem to do now (example: Achura). Unlike many players, I picked my race and bloodline based purely on the culture, lore, and what I wanted to role-play. I didn't really know what the attributes did before I made my character. It'll be nice to able to tweak my attributes a little, most likely to balance them a little better.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.02.09 22:03:00 - [50] Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Amy Wang not too happy with the complete elimination of bloodline/race importance other then for looks but well, I guess it is a business decision to make the entry easier and to avoid frustration for new players that "gimped" their chars In a way I agree, but it'll be nice to see more people picking races and bloodlines because they actually like them instead of because that race/bloodline offers the "optimal" attribute distribution for whatever career like most people seem to do now (example: Achura). Unlike many players, I picked my race and bloodline based purely on the culture, lore, and what I wanted to role-play. I didn't really know what the attributes did before I made my character. It'll be nice to able to tweak my attributes a little, most likely to balance them a little better. but you can't change your bloodline or race... god damn it, these forums suck.

Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.09 22:06:00 - [51] Originally by: MotherMoon but you can't change your bloodline or race... god damn it, these forums suck. LOL
Dinsdale Pirannha Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.09 22:15:00 - [52] So how does this work with alts on existing accounts? I have an alt on my primary account. He is sitting with way less than 1.6 million SP. What happens if I biomass him, and March 10th, re-roll him. Do I get the 1.6 million SP headstart, or does this apply only to new accounts?
Zhora Six	Posted - 2009.02.09 22:50:00 - [53] Originally by: Dinsdale Pirannha So how does this work with alts on existing accounts? I have an alt on my primary account. He is sitting with way less than 1.6 million SP. What happens if I biomass him, and March 10th, re-roll him. Do I get the 1.6 million SP headstart, or does this apply only to new accounts? New characters - you don't start with 1.6 mil sp, but you get a boost until you reach that amount. (That's how I read it anyway...)
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.02.09 22:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Dinsdale Pirannha So how does this work with alts on existing accounts? I have an alt on my primary account. He is sitting with way less than 1.6 million SP. What happens if I biomass him, and March 10th, re-roll him. Do I get the 1.6 million SP headstart, or does this apply only to new accounts? you won't need to biomass him. he just will have double sp gain untill that level. it's like the last change form 50,000 to 800,000, anyone under got boosted.
eFart	Posted - 2009.02.09 22:59:00 - [55] Originally by: MotherMoon but you can't change your bloodline or race... god damn it, these forums suck. wtf why so harsh with kyra she look so innosent
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.02.09 23:00:00 - [56] Originally by: Gypsio III Yeah, just train six months of Int/Mem support/ewar skills, then respec to Perc/Will and sort out Spac Command and Gunnery/Missiles. Laughably exploitable. So what? Even if you do that, you've spent a year on your suboptimal training plan.
Zhora Six	Posted - 2009.02.09 23:22:00 - [57] Originally by: MotherMoon you won't need to biomass him. he just will have double sp gain untill that level. it's like the last change form 50,000 to 800,000, anyone under got boosted. Interesting, I didn't know they did that last time. Makes things easy. ___________________________________ The Save Aura Thread - please comment!
Kayscha	Posted - 2009.02.10 00:10:00 - [58] This is most disappointing. There I am, charisma 31, looking back at almost 6 years of handicapped learning, always waiting, hoping for a reason, any reason, that would make this my choice mean something. Yeah, we got a couple trade and diplomacy skills to pick up a little quicker. But now, even if they add something charmisma was really good for, everyone can just just switch their attributes around and have the same benefits as I do. Choices should have consequences. They are a good thing. If you let us come back now, 6 years later, you cheapen our chices and the consequences we've suffered. Not only attibutes, even races become meaningless, which as laudably egalitarian, but takes away a lot of the little diversity EVE offers. In short, I don't think the benefits of this change in any way balance the losses it entails. Moreso, if you - as too often by far - include this gameplay driven change without offering a solid game world explanation for it (which I admit would be quite a feat to pull off). :(


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