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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2009.02.11 08:48:00 -
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1. I live in Australia, ESRB from the USA is not even slightly relevant to me.
2. This message is insulting to my intelligence. Obviously there aren't people sitting there 24/7 censoring our gameplay/chats LIVE.
3. What is next, putting this message on all web-sites "This site is not rated by <insert various ultra-conservative weirdo groups>"? Or telephones with stickers "Conversations on this device are not rated"
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Inectus
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Posted - 2009.02.11 08:53:00 -
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It's basically a CYA (cover your ass). They really don't care what you think about the warning, but all it takes is one up tight parent looking at the chat log and seeing **** and it's all over. By putting the disclaimer there it covers them from anything serious and also serves as an additional warning to potentially ignorant people.
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2009.02.11 08:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Inectus
It's basically a CYA (cover your ass). They really don't care what you think about the warning, but all it takes is one up tight parent looking at the chat log and seeing **** and it's all over. By putting the disclaimer there it covers them from anything serious and also serves as an additional warning to potentially ignorant people.
Parents who are so stupid they need to be told this have basically failed natural selection and shouldn't have had kids in the first place.
I am offended by this notice, maybe they should CTA against that...
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.02.11 08:57:00 -
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1. This thread would suggest otherwise and yes ESRB notice sucks.
2. Obviously there are computer programs that mine for any relevant data and reporting any anomalies. Using humans would be too inefficient.
3. My vote goes to "the manufacturer of this phone can't be held responsible for the conversations on this device."
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Mspaine
Amarr
Astral Core Systems
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Posted - 2009.02.11 08:57:00 -
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this may have something to do with the Australian Government's decision to ban the sales (both in store and online) of games that do not have a rating - eg. World of Warcraft. So unfortunately for you, in a legal sense, ESRB from the USA is applicable to you :)
this doesnt realy apply to eve, as our government can suck me when it comes to actualy policing the online sales of unrated games, however if a large volume of sales from eve here were actualy bought from stores such as EB (which to my current knowledge, ive never seen eve or eve timecards for sale there...) it isnt realy applicable.
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Gallente trader10
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Posted - 2009.02.11 08:59:00 -
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lolmerica is the reason. don't try to understand it
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.11 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Eater
2. This message is insulting to my intelligence. Obviously there aren't people sitting there 24/7 censoring our gameplay/chats LIVE.
Hey at least they made it a bit unobtrusive by sticking it in the lower left corner and it dissapears a few seconds after you start the client anyways.
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2009.02.11 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mspaine
this doesnt realy apply to eve, as our government can suck me when it comes to actualy policing the online sales of unrated games
I'm pretty sure Eve is rated T, based on their ads. In any case, our world is ruled by lawyers now so if they don't put that warning up somebody would probably sue CCP because OMG I SAW DA EFF BOMB ON MAH INTERNETS, and win. Remember, McDonalds didnt start putting the warning on the coffee to insult people, they did it because some punk successfully sued them for several million dollars.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.11 09:08:00 -
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Since **** is censored by the forums, that's p00p, i doubt they can do ANY more to alleviate the parental concerns of of the grown-up units.
Unless you know of any person who's had a kid who's offended by the word ****
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Navtiqes
Englebarna
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Posted - 2009.02.11 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Navtiqes on 11/02/2009 09:10:43
It's just some dumbass disclaimer they're forced to do so all those clowns* that put their cats in the microwave won't go ahead and sue CCP because someone called them **** in an internet game.
*Incidently, said clowns all come from the country where ESRB rating is being used.
Also, if you need to be informed what the ESRB rating for a product is, you probably shouldn't be playing it in the first place. |
Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2009.02.11 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Flesh Eater on 11/02/2009 09:12:56
Here is Australia, they put a big, brightly coloured ratings box on the front of DVDs - usually it stands out more than the title.
The Australian government wants to install a giant firewall just like China.
I am told before logging in to Eve that any internet chatting is not "rated".(Never mind that internet forums, chat channels, IRC, msn, Phone SMS, Email, newsgroups, Web Pages, I.E. THE ENTIRE INTERNET is also not "rated")
Something is wrong.
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Navtiqes
Englebarna
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Posted - 2009.02.11 09:13:00 -
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Wow, I hadn't thought Australia was so stuck up :( sorry to hear.
Next thing you know, there'll be a voice when you pick up the telephone saying "Telephone calls are not rated!". |
Premier Romanov
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Posted - 2009.02.11 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mspaine
which to my current knowledge, ive never seen eve or eve timecards for sale there...
FYI, my local EB games here in Australia said they were getting the box set of Eve around the 18th of March. I wonder how many potential customers will put the game back when they realise/are told it's an online game that requires a monthly fee to play?
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2009.02.11 10:39:00 -
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What about these forums? TBH I have found much more offensive content here than in the actual game.
Take tonight for example, some guy started a topic asking for advice for which laptop would give him "best bang for the buck" for playing eve next to his nagging wife - and some guy replies that a brothel would give him more "bang for the buck". Come on, that is way out of line and downright offensive. Any kid who read that would be scarred for life, and end up becomming addicted to brothels and prostitution rather than settling down and starting his own family.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.11 10:41:00 -
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you can't sell a boxxed game without it.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.11 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 11/02/2009 11:00:22
Originally by: MotherMoon
you can't sell a boxxed game without it.
Sure you can... in countries where people are capable of thinking for themselves.
I am not trying to bash any particular country because I have no idea in which part of the world the moronic ESRB rating is required, but like the OP, I find it an offense to my intellect and to the intellectual capabilities of humanity in general.
If you are so stupid that you need others to evaluate simple things for you, there is either something wrong with you and/or the society you are living in.
The human intellect is our greatest strength and drives our society forward. That is why stupidity (or laziness that leads to stupidity) should i no way be encouraged. |
ResearchBunny Beatrix
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:09:00 -
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You wasted your time to post this, and I ... hay, wait. |
Banana Bread
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Eater
What about these forums? TBH I have found much more offensive content here than in the actual game.
Take tonight for example, some guy started a topic asking for advice for which laptop would give him "best bang for the buck" for playing eve next to his nagging wife - and some guy replies that a brothel would give him more "bang for the buck". Come on, that is way out of line and downright offensive. Any kid who read that would be scarred for life, and end up becomming addicted to brothels and prostitution rather than settling down and starting his own family.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:29:00 -
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I, too, think this was worth a post.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 11/02/2009 11:00:22
Originally by: MotherMoon
you can't sell a boxxed game without it.
Sure you can... in countries where people are capable of thinking for themselves.
I am not trying to bash any particular country because I have no idea in which part of the world the moronic ESRB rating is required, but like the OP, I find it an offense to my intellect and to the intellectual capabilities of humanity in general.
If you are so stupid that you need others to evaluate simple things for you, there is either something wrong with you and/or the society you are living in.
The human intellect is our greatest strength and drives our society forward. That is why stupidity (or laziness that leads to stupidity) should i no way be encouraged.
no, they aren't allowed to shelf the box, legally.
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Patul Swarntag
Minmatar
Eagleburger Enterprises Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:53:00 -
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Censorship and ratings are crazy to begin with.
The majority of people who can afford to buy games, DVDs, visit cinemas and play EVE live in a very safe place and time in world history. Obviously I don't include most of Africa and other parts of the world where survival is a matter of chance. Not surprisingly these places don't really put any particular emphasis on rating forms of entertainment to prevent some sort of "offence". Mainly they are trying to prevent themselves being hacked to death or starving to death.
We (the lucky ones) don't have to worry about catching the plague and dying at age 17 or that a marauding horde of barbarians is about to come down out of the hills, break down the city gate, kill and **** everyone and leave wearing your skin as an amusing hat.
Being killed or physically violated would certainly be offensive.
Watching some computer graphics or see someone call someone else a nasty word is hardly something that will offend anyone or that you need to be protected from. Censoring and rating the majority of forms of entertainment, art and human interaction in this safe day and age is stifling to human creativity and subduing the benefits our current level of technology and knowledge.
It turns out that its mainly only crazed religious nuts and extremists who are into censorship anyway...
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StickyFingerz
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:57:00 -
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cant the OP find something sensible to whine about?
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Eater
Any kid who read that would be scarred for life, and end up becomming addicted to brothels and prostitution rather than settling down and starting his own family.
You totaly lost me here bub. This is a ridiculis claim. If you do not get the CYA aspect of why CCP did this. If you do not realize that the USA is the most likely place they will get attacked from when the boxes hit the shelf. Then it is you sir that should not realy be allowed to impregnate a female.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Patul Swarntag
Minmatar
Eagleburger Enterprises Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.11 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Patul Swarntag on 11/02/2009 12:10:42
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Flesh Eater
Any kid who read that would be scarred for life, and end up becomming addicted to brothels and prostitution rather than settling down and starting his own family.
You totaly lost me here bub. This is a ridiculis claim. If you do not get the CYA aspect of why CCP did this. If you do not realize that the USA is the most likely place they will get attacked from when the boxes hit the shelf. Then it is you sir that should not realy be allowed to impregnate a female.
Slade
Turn on your sarcasm scanner there buddy.
You'll find that his comment was dripping with so much sarcasm you could collect it in buckets and wash cars with it...
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2009.02.11 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Flesh Eater
Any kid who read that would be scarred for life, and end up becomming addicted to brothels and prostitution rather than settling down and starting his own family.
You totaly lost me here bub. This is a ridiculis claim. If you do not get the CYA aspect of why CCP did this. If you do not realize that the USA is the most likely place they will get attacked from when the boxes hit the shelf. Then it is you sir that should not realy be allowed to impregnate a female.
Slade
It would get "attacked" for not warning that a user might encounter "unrated chat" online???
If that is the case, then the USA is well passed its used-by date.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.11 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 11/02/2009 12:13:01
Originally by: Patul Swarntag
Turn on your sarcasm scanner there buddy.
You'll find that his comment was dripping with so much sarcasm you could collect it in buckets and wash cars with it...
Well it is early, I have recently stopped injesting caffine, and I do not detect it. His last post seemed fairly non sarcastic. I will have to reread in a few hours and reevaluate 
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2009.02.11 13:54:00 -
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Thing is, why have the ESRB thing when we have the freakshow called the "Office of Film and Literature Classification".
Actually there are a lot of these freakshows around:
# Europe (excluding Germany) - Pan European Game Information
# Finland - Finnish Board of Film Classification
# Germany - Voluntary Monitoring Organisation of Entertainment Software
# Japan - Computer Entertainment Rating Organization
# New Zealand - Office of Film and Literature Classification
# United Kingdom - British Board of Film Classification
I thought Eve was an international game? Please CCP, give us seperate logo for each one on the login/news screen!
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Navtiqes
Englebarna
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Posted - 2009.02.11 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Eater
Thing is, why have the ESRB thing when we have the freakshow called the "Office of Film and Literature Classification".
Actually there are a lot of these freakshows around:
# Europe (excluding Germany) - Pan European Game Information
# Finland - Finnish Board of Film Classification
# Germany - Voluntary Monitoring Organisation of Entertainment Software
# Japan - Computer Entertainment Rating Organization
# New Zealand - Office of Film and Literature Classification
# United Kingdom - British Board of Film Classification
I thought Eve was an international game? Please CCP, give us seperate logo for each one on the login/news screen!
As far as I know, EVE Online would have to get ratings from all of those to be allowed on shelves in their respective countries. ESRB means nothing outside of the States. |
AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.11 14:46:00 -
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I smell a troll...pew!
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Southern Suzy
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Eater
1. I live in Australia, ESRB from the USA is not even slightly relevant to me.
2. This message is insulting to my intelligence. Obviously there aren't people sitting there 24/7 censoring our gameplay/chats LIVE.
3. What is next, putting this message on all web-sites "This site is not rated by <insert various ultra-conservative weirdo groups>"? Or telephones with stickers "Conversations on this device are not rated"
Theres a few reasons for this,
most amricans are dumber than rocks so they dont understand that a game cannot control what players inside tell eachother.
America has no common sence, so this message protects them from stupid lawsuits that make no sense and go about insane money claims
So wait this is the end of my post allready?
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