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Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 500	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:39:00 - [1] - Quote I dont know to be honest but would the statement below class as PvP "Opening up on that Hulk knowing that it will be blown to pieces unless Concord arrives in time" Thanks for your Imput I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 364	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:41:00 - [2] - Quote It's player vs player, so yes. HTFU. Things are only impossible until they are not.
Poetic Stanziel The Fancy Hats Corporation 823	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:41:00 - [3] - Quote Player versus Player. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks
Hatt0ri Hanz0 Life sucks then you die Ltd. 7	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:44:00 - [4] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: I dont know to be honest but would the statement below class as PvP "Opening up on that Hulk knowing that it will be blown to pieces unless Concord arrives in time" Thanks for your Imput Yes it is PVP, albeit risk free pvp. Confirming the irony of nerdguy telling someone to HTFU.
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 256	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: I dont know to be honest but would the statement below class as PvP "Opening up on that Hulk knowing that it will be blown to pieces unless Concord arrives in time" Thanks for your Imput PvP is combat between players and in suicide ganking there is no two way exchange, which is why I don't see it as PvP.
Ai Shun 710	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:47:00 - [6] - Quote Player. Versus. Player. Player #1 is fitted in a combat ship. Player #2 is in a non tanked, mining hulk without an escort and mining AFK. Just because the actual combat happens today, does not mean the decisions both players made that put them in that scenario was not a good example of player versus player interaction. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6231	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:48:00 - [7] - Quote Of course it is. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Tore Vest 291	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:50:00 - [8] - Quote Player versus victim.... so PVV No troll.
Nick Bison Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd 172	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:52:00 - [9] - Quote It's "Low Class" PvP. No real risk, no ehonor, kind of like the trailer trash of combat pilots wanting to be one of the cool kids. Nothing clever at this time.
Rekon X School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:00:00 - [10] - Quote Gank - for people that can't pvp. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.

Othran Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:05:00 - [11] - Quote Its PvP but its not a fight. There is a distinction
Ziranda Hakuli Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens 28	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:05:00 - [12] - Quote Suicide Ganking real PVP? no its not its little grubs that have no skill at true PVP and the only way to ge their jollies off is to blow up unarmed ships.
Arkturus McFadden Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:05:00 - [13] - Quote Ganking is PVP, but I think it's being horribly abused now by killing high sec miners in nonevent scenarios..
Zverofaust Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore 95	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:08:00 - [14] - Quote My Lord in heaven where did all of these whiners come from and why are they covering this forum in their spurgtears
Rekon X School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:08:00 - [15] - Quote Ziranda Hakuli wrote: Suicide Ganking real PVP? no its not its little grubs that have no skill at true PVP and the only way to ge their jollies off is to blow up unarmed ships. This works too. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 364	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:09:00 - [16] - Quote Zverofaust wrote: My Lord in heaven where did all of these whiners come from and why are they covering this forum in their spurgtears They come from the community that thinks this game should be 100% safe, aka hippies online. Things are only impossible until they are not.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 701	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:09:00 - [17] - Quote Not always. Sometimes its PvB.
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School 183	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:16:00 - [18] - Quote Forums are the only real PvP. Everything thing else is pretender land.
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 256	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:16:00 - [19] - Quote Below is how I've always understood what PvP is and not all the other arguments people put forward altered to suit their argument. 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 429	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:17:00 - [20] - Quote Confirming the trolling post and run with the evidence "Imput" and never even came back to correct it Sasha Azala wrote: Below is how I've always understood what PvP is and not all the other arguments people put forward altered to suit their argument. 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia Well that cuts WoW out https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)

Joran Jackson The Red Circle Inc. 11	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:18:00 - [21] - Quote Suicide ganking is PvE. It's the best PvE in the game.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 702	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:19:00 - [22] - Quote Sasha Azala wrote: Below is how I've always understood what PvP is and not all the other arguments people put forward altered to suit their argument. 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia Considering it is CCP's game, only their definition really matters, not some arbitrary Wiki one. Same with exploit. CCP's definition of it differs from what most would consider, but that is what they decide it means.
Dragon Outlaw Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 74	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:23:00 - [23] - Quote If it is PvP, CCP should organize an official ganking tournament on a yearly basis. Winners would be recognized as ...elite PvPers? NVM...bad idea.
Ai Shun 711	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:23:00 - [24] - Quote Sasha Azala wrote: 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia There was combat between players in a gank scenario. The preparation work started long before they undocked and one player lost that engagement. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 256	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:27:00 - [25] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: Sasha Azala wrote: Below is how I've always understood what PvP is and not all the other arguments people put forward altered to suit their argument. 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia Considering it is CCP's game, only their definition really matters, not some arbitrary Wiki one. Same with exploit. CCP's definition of it differs from what most would consider, but that is what they decide it means. Some people would have you believe that playing the market and competition for the same resoucre (ie. node/roid) is PvP, if that was the case then there would be no PvE MMOs. An exploit is generally playing the game in a way that was not intended. So CCP have every right to decide what an exploit is in EVE.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 703	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:30:00 - [26] - Quote Sasha Azala wrote: Corina Jarr wrote: Sasha Azala wrote: Below is how I've always understood what PvP is and not all the other arguments people put forward altered to suit their argument. 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia Considering it is CCP's game, only their definition really matters, not some arbitrary Wiki one. Same with exploit. CCP's definition of it differs from what most would consider, but that is what they decide it means. Some people would have you believe that playing the market and competition for the same resoucre (ie. node/roid) is PvP, if that was the case then there would be no PvE MMOs. An exploit is generally playing the game in a way that was not intended. So CCP have every right to decide what an exploit is in EVE. You haven't played WoW or ToR have you? You can go the entire game on a PvE server without ever interacting with a person.
Whitehound 180	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:34:00 - [27] - Quote Sure it is PvP. Is it real PvP? No. *No more crappy expansions!-á Raise A Little Hell* "20 percent of CCP staff fired!" - CEO 'Mr. Nice' Hilmar
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 150	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:34:00 - [28] - Quote If you mean it isn't PvP because it wasn't a fair fight, no PvP in EVE is that. You undocked and jumped 3 systems over to get caught on a gate by a 30 man nano gang and 2 HIC bubbles. Even if you undocked with 3 or 4 buddies, it isn't like you had a snowballs chance in hell of winning. I've seen low sec Golem Kills. 6 guys killed it. He had a chance? A guy is ratting in a belt, in comes Falcon and Drake alt, scrammed, hjammed, he has any chance? Winning PvP in EVE is decided in a fittings screen you look at before you even undock. After that it's a lottery short of the blue wall, blob mechanic we have all learned to build around our fleets. Is a Hulk a really stupid ship to have in EVE? Very much so. I dont know why anyone would undock in a Hulk in the current culture of EVE.
Ai Shun 711	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:35:00 - [29] - Quote Sasha Azala wrote: Some people would have you believe that playing the market and competition for the same resoucre (ie. node/roid) is PvP, if that was the case then there would be no PvE MMOs. Sasha Azala wrote: 'Player versus player was coined sometime in the late 1980s to refer to the combat between players that resulted in the loser being penalized in some way.' wikipedia Let's test those cases. If two players are fighting on the market and one player wins the customer; the other player has been penalised through their lost income. There are no blows in the "combat" but they have fought and somebody lost. If two players are approaching the same asteroid and one gets the minerals or most of the minerals; the other player has been penalised through their lost minerals and time. There are again, no blows in the "combat" but they have fought and somebody lost. Same applies when try to sell those minerals - there is market PvP involved there. The same applies when using an Auction House in another MMO. If my listing gets bought out and yours sits there for seven days, I've won - you've lost. I beat you in that PvP engagement; unless of course you sell yours after 3 days for 10 times what mine sold for. Then you won that engagement Same with running for that node of copper ore. If you grab it while I'm still running there; you won. I lost the resources and now need to find another resource. We've just competed as two players and one won and the other lost. Focussing only on shooting stuff is too narrow a view. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Bane Necran 349	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:37:00 - [30] - Quote Sure, in the same way a sniper taking someone out from 500 yards is. Whether or not the other person recognizes the threat beforehand, or has a chance after you've attacked, doesn't really make any difference. But i will add that until hollywood made it look cool, snipers were considered to be cheap bastards. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble.



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