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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
507
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Posted - 2012.07.08 22:23:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Charles Baker wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Charles Baker wrote:
Hardly allies, TCF were like your ******* parents, you just inherited their house when they died.
Not really sure why you consider this a bad thing. You didn't earn it. Beats being homeless doesn't it? Edit: Can I pull myself up by your bootstraps, Charles? I always saw myself as the figure who would unite the pubbies, and lead a glorious crusade 3 jumps into null before my fleet got a bout of cowardice and decided to return to their belts.
I guess it truly is tough to talk a big game when your game consists of shooting inanimate rocks all day. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition
24
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Posted - 2012.07.08 22:26:00 -
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Well of course, this is GD don't you know, but in all honesty isn't that what you guys do in null? except you guys dock up the second a cloaky enters system. Nothing sillier than seeing a 100 Hulk operation halted by a single Tengu.
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qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
33
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Posted - 2012.07.08 22:47:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Well of course, this is GD don't you know, but in all honesty isn't that what you guys do in null? except you guys dock up the second a cloaky enters system. Nothing sillier than seeing a 100 Hulk operation halted by a single Tengu.
100 hulks? That is 500 medium ecm drones Do wonder what such a blob is running from.
AFK cloakers are no problem. Problem comes with covert cynos.
Anyway .. OP: How do YOU think Tech price got to where tey are today? They were set, by a crew that knows how to play the game...
There are several other parts of eve were major isk is to be had if you arrange for a treaty.
Any alliance should be able to take total control of incursion sites for example... And squeeze quite a lot of isk out from releasing them for public use.. |
Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.07.08 22:51:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Charles Baker wrote:
Hardly allies, TCF were like your ******* parents, you just inherited their house when they died.
Not really sure why you consider this a bad thing. You didn't earn it.
The attempted VFK headshot never happened and we definitely didn't rampage all over Venal, Tenal and Fountain |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1280
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Posted - 2012.07.08 23:00:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:Xinivrae wrote:
That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.
Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi. Just throwing out that my alliance, with less than 100 real people behind the chars, held a dozen Tech moons for about six months. You would be surprised at even what 50 good pilots can do to a region. I'm not going to fight a war on your terms or in Delve or whatever, ill bring it right to your doorstep and make you life miserable, you numbers or isk won't matter either. thats how you fight superior numbers IMO.
the mighty V I R I I corp makes us tremble in our sleep a rogue goon |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
285
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Posted - 2012.07.08 23:13:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:Xinivrae wrote:
That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.
Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi. Just throwing out that my alliance, with less than 100 real people behind the chars, held a dozen Tech moons for about six months. You would be surprised at even what 50 good pilots can do to a region. I'm not going to fight a war on your terms or in Delve or whatever, ill bring it right to your doorstep and make you life miserable, you numbers or isk won't matter either. thats how you fight superior numbers IMO.
You should hit up Mine Lady, see if she can help you in your noble cause. -RubyPorto
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Desimus Maximus
Dark Matter Arsenal Development
15
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:10:00 -
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We don't call them CCPswarm for nothing.
I do agree. Tech should be a travelling resource. Make them scout out areas and scan moons, this will give CCP their deepest desire to increase hostile action.
It's clear that the situation will never change without CCP action. In-game, it is about as likely to happen as Mittens admitting his membership in NAMBLA. |
Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:17:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote: I do agree. Tech should be a travelling resource. Make them scout out areas and scan moons, this will give CCP their deepest desire to increase hostile action.
This would increase the price of technetium threefold. Sure, it would be impossible to cartel, but it would require scanning hundred of thousands of moons and dropping new towers every x months. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
507
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:18:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:We don't call them CCPswarm for nothing.
I do agree. Tech should be a travelling resource. Make them scout out areas and scan moons, this will give CCP their deepest desire to increase hostile action.
It's clear that the situation will never change without CCP action. In-game, it is about as likely to happen as Mittens admitting his membership in NAMBLA.
Wow, okay, I didn't even notice that last part, enjoy your ban, bro. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
172
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:20:00 -
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When tech is nerfed set all wallets to zero. That would level the playing field... |
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Secluse
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:24:00 -
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Came with popcorn. Was disappoint. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:29:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.
I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Unit757
North Point Cannabis Legionis
9
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:32:00 -
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If one Alliance/Coalition having all the tech moons is such an "issue", then take it from them? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1280
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:33:00 -
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Unit757 wrote:If one Alliance/Coalition having all the tech moons is such an "issue", then take it from them?
"But you can't fight extremely rich alliances despite the numerous examples of rich, powerful alliances being taken down by coalitions of less powerful ones!" a rogue goon |
Unit757
North Point Cannabis Legionis
9
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Posted - 2012.07.09 00:35:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Unit757 wrote:If one Alliance/Coalition having all the tech moons is such an "issue", then take it from them? "But you can't fight extremely rich alliances despite the numerous examples of rich, powerful alliances being taken down by coalitions of less powerful ones!"
Don't see how that's the CFC's fault then. So much hate for no reason |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
160
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:01:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Ping Pang Pong wrote: And how is this any different than what DoucheSwarm and their pets are doing to SoCo right now? All I have seen from Goons and their pets is bitching and moaning that they can't get SoCo to undock and fight. Why would they undock when as soon as they do you cyno in a fleet that is 5-6x the size of theirs?
As I have stated in other threads the Goons and their pets are utterly pathetic at PvP, and will run at the first sign of a fair fight. By fair fight I mean an incoming fleet that is half their size or more. You have been taking massive losses whenever you do actually decide to engage in a fight, and that only happens when SoCo chases a fleet halfway around the universe.
The most fighting I see out of Goons and their pets is forum warrioring. Is it some kind of rule that whenever the goons are mentioned in a thread that you all dog pile your asshattery into them?
You can post on your Soco main. Getting kicked out of your alliance for showing your real face is probably the best thing that could happen to you right now. An anonymous forum alt talking about bravery is pretty hilarious.
What makes you think we need forum alts? |
Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition
25
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:04:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Ping Pang Pong wrote: And how is this any different than what DoucheSwarm and their pets are doing to SoCo right now? All I have seen from Goons and their pets is bitching and moaning that they can't get SoCo to undock and fight. Why would they undock when as soon as they do you cyno in a fleet that is 5-6x the size of theirs?
As I have stated in other threads the Goons and their pets are utterly pathetic at PvP, and will run at the first sign of a fair fight. By fair fight I mean an incoming fleet that is half their size or more. You have been taking massive losses whenever you do actually decide to engage in a fight, and that only happens when SoCo chases a fleet halfway around the universe.
The most fighting I see out of Goons and their pets is forum warrioring. Is it some kind of rule that whenever the goons are mentioned in a thread that you all dog pile your asshattery into them?
You can post on your Soco main. Getting kicked out of your alliance for showing your real face is probably the best thing that could happen to you right now. An anonymous forum alt talking about bravery is pretty hilarious. What makes you think we need forum alts?
Because all your mains are docked up.
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Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:06:00 -
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Unit757 wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Unit757 wrote:If one Alliance/Coalition having all the tech moons is such an "issue", then take it from them? "But you can't fight extremely rich alliances despite the numerous examples of rich, powerful alliances being taken down by coalitions of less powerful ones!" Don't see how that's the CFC's fault then. So much hate for no reason
So jealousy isn't a reason? ;P |
Unit757
North Point Cannabis Legionis
9
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:13:00 -
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Cameron Cahill wrote:Unit757 wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Unit757 wrote:If one Alliance/Coalition having all the tech moons is such an "issue", then take it from them? "But you can't fight extremely rich alliances despite the numerous examples of rich, powerful alliances being taken down by coalitions of less powerful ones!" Don't see how that's the CFC's fault then. So much hate for no reason So jealousy isn't a reason? ;P
Not a good one at least. |
Delvega
The Geedunk Expedition
0
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:13:00 -
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dexington wrote: There is probably only two ways to get 10% to leave empire space, the carrot or the whip. Seeing how there is nothing that comes close to being a carrot, nothing is happening unless ccp nerf empire space to hell.
The carrot is to lure players into a specific location.
The whip just drives players away from their current location but doesn't necessarily get them moving towards where the whip cracker wants them to go. That's the logical fallacy of the whip and why nerfing highsec is such a **** poor idea.
Make life in highsec so unbearable and several things will happen. Those players will either go to nullsec which is what you want, or they'll go to wormholes, or lowsec, or the most likely destination is to the account management page.
If you want players to leave highsec and go into other areas of space, try to come up with an alternate solution that doesn't involve mass unsubs. |
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drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:44:00 -
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Rene Fullchest wrote:Well, you know, it's not like CCP just gave all the tech to the CFC. We fought for it, took it, and hold it.
Not our problem that we were good enough to do so, nor is it CCP's.
If you truly feel that you, no one, will ever be able to take enough to compete, you should probably unsubscribe, because we certainly are not going to stop defending it.
No you didn't... check with the older null players. Tech was put there after goons had the space
Missile enhancers.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235061& |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
287
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:00:00 -
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drdxie wrote:Rene Fullchest wrote:Well, you know, it's not like CCP just gave all the tech to the CFC. We fought for it, took it, and hold it.
Not our problem that we were good enough to do so, nor is it CCP's.
If you truly feel that you, no one, will ever be able to take enough to compete, you should probably unsubscribe, because we certainly are not going to stop defending it. No you didn't... check with the older null players. Tech was put there after goons had the space
Dominion (when CCP nerfed R64s and signaled the ascendancy of the Tech Era) was in late 2009.
Here's Verite's map for November 2009 (a month or so after the R64 Nerf/Tech Buff)
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.png
Goonswarm is down in Querius and Delve, nowhere near Tech. -RubyPorto
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
534
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:25:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:the mighty V I R I I corp makes us tremble in our sleep
Just so we're clear, what I was saying was nothing like the "wulfpax their space!!!1" he was getting at. |
Delnas Sapphire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:28:00 -
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Soco being fined for talking in local? Soco being told to shut up everytime they speak in TS? Soco having maka whelp fleets everytime he undocks? Soco having mandatory ops and directors chewing corps out if someone misses one?
You wonder why people don't beat GS, this is just one war and the reason they are winning is because they aren't full of ****** rules and are actually able to enjoy themselves whilst other 0.0 entities act like a dictatorship.
Once alliances start to realize treating your members like **** doesn't work they might actually be able to mount a proper offensive. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:18:00 -
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Delvega wrote:dexington wrote: There is probably only two ways to get 10% to leave empire space, the carrot or the whip. Seeing how there is nothing that comes close to being a carrot, nothing is happening unless ccp nerf empire space to hell.
The carrot is to lure players into a specific location. The whip just drives players away from their current location but doesn't necessarily get them moving towards where the whip cracker wants them to go. That's the logical fallacy of the whip and why nerfing highsec is such a **** poor idea. Make life in highsec so unbearable and several things will happen. Those players will either go to nullsec which is what you want, or they'll go to wormholes, or lowsec, or the most likely destination is to the account management page. If you want players to leave highsec and go into other areas of space, try to come up with an alternate solution that doesn't involve mass unsubs.
Yeah pretty much, nerf high enough Ill find a new game (MWO), Im doubt Im alone.
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:19:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:drdxie wrote:Rene Fullchest wrote:Well, you know, it's not like CCP just gave all the tech to the CFC. We fought for it, took it, and hold it.
Not our problem that we were good enough to do so, nor is it CCP's.
If you truly feel that you, no one, will ever be able to take enough to compete, you should probably unsubscribe, because we certainly are not going to stop defending it. No you didn't... check with the older null players. Tech was put there after goons had the space Dominion (when CCP nerfed R64s and signaled the ascendancy of the Tech Era) was in late 2009. Here's Verite's map for November 2009 (a month or so after the R64 Nerf/Tech Buff) http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.pngGoonswarm is down in Querius and Delve, nowhere near Tech.
Careful; youre bordering rumor there also; they dissapeared from there, only to reappear where the tech moons ARE and IT took over the old area.
http://youtu.be/RhxV_VjtqkI
2:58 then reappear at the new location 3:38 Note that proof negates rumor, and that Im not saying theres any conspiracy, just that it happened. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:39:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:drdxie wrote:Rene Fullchest wrote:Well, you know, it's not like CCP just gave all the tech to the CFC. We fought for it, took it, and hold it.
Not our problem that we were good enough to do so, nor is it CCP's.
If you truly feel that you, no one, will ever be able to take enough to compete, you should probably unsubscribe, because we certainly are not going to stop defending it. No you didn't... check with the older null players. Tech was put there after goons had the space Dominion (when CCP nerfed R64s and signaled the ascendancy of the Tech Era) was in late 2009. Here's Verite's map for November 2009 (a month or so after the R64 Nerf/Tech Buff) http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.pngGoonswarm is down in Querius and Delve, nowhere near Tech. Careful; youre bordering rumor there also; they dissapeared from there, only to reappear where the tech moons ARE and IT took over the old area. http://youtu.be/RhxV_VjtqkI2:58 then reappear at the new location 3:38 Note that proof negates rumor, and that Im not saying theres any conspiracy, just that it happened.
Right, but they certainly weren't there before Tech was buffed, as the above poster claimed. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20100203EE.png The lost Sov Feb 3, 2010, 2 months after Dominion and the r64 nerf/Tech buff.
They didn't gain Sov in Dekklin until August 2010, 8 months after the r64 nerf/Tech buff.
8 months after != before.
As you say, proof negates rumor.
EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps. -RubyPorto
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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:59:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:drdxie wrote:Rene Fullchest wrote:Well, you know, it's not like CCP just gave all the tech to the CFC. We fought for it, took it, and hold it.
Not our problem that we were good enough to do so, nor is it CCP's.
If you truly feel that you, no one, will ever be able to take enough to compete, you should probably unsubscribe, because we certainly are not going to stop defending it. No you didn't... check with the older null players. Tech was put there after goons had the space Dominion (when CCP nerfed R64s and signaled the ascendancy of the Tech Era) was in late 2009. Here's Verite's map for November 2009 (a month or so after the R64 Nerf/Tech Buff) http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.pngGoonswarm is down in Querius and Delve, nowhere near Tech. Careful; youre bordering rumor there also; they dissapeared from there, only to reappear where the tech moons ARE and IT took over the old area. http://youtu.be/RhxV_VjtqkI2:58 then reappear at the new location 3:38 Note that proof negates rumor, and that Im not saying theres any conspiracy, just that it happened. Right, but they certainly weren't there before Tech was buffed, as the above poster claimed. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20100203EE.pngThe lost Sov Feb 3, 2010, 2 months after Dominion and the r64 nerf/Tech buff. They didn't gain Sov in Dekklin until August 2010, 8 months after the r64 nerf/Tech buff. 8 months after != before. As you say, proof negates rumor. EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps.
again... as I said... I WASNT rumormongering as the above poster was. I dont like being banned http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1159
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:04:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Dominion (when CCP nerfed R64s and signaled the ascendancy of the Tech Era) was in late 2009. Here's Verite's map for November 2009 (a month or so after the R64 Nerf/Tech Buff) http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.pngGoonswarm is down in Querius and Delve, nowhere near Tech. Careful; youre bordering rumor there also; they dissapeared from there, only to reappear where the tech moons ARE and IT took over the old area. http://youtu.be/RhxV_VjtqkI2:58 then reappear at the new location 3:38 Note that proof negates rumor, and that Im not saying theres any conspiracy, just that it happened. Right, but they certainly weren't there before Tech was buffed, as the above poster claimed. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20100203EE.pngThe lost Sov Feb 3, 2010, 2 months after Dominion and the r64 nerf/Tech buff. They didn't gain Sov in Dekklin until August 2010, 8 months after the r64 nerf/Tech buff. 8 months after != before. As you say, proof negates rumor. EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps. The tech cartel thing only occurred relatively recently too. Funny that the nerf is already expected in winter or so.
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Dersk
90040045
90
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:09:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps.
You can just change the date in the URLs.
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.png = november 26, 2009. Easy. |
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