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Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
75
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:54:00 -
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i have a problem in lots of games with motion sickness, i am glad i dont get if from this specific animation, although if it becomes much smoother, it WILL start triggering it for me
primary triggers for me, are smooth movements i cant control, and motion blur, in any and all forms
smooth visual movements do NOT happen for me in real life, i actually have no way of keeping my eyes open while my head is in motion: i blink, EVERY TIME, while cars dont trigger it often, it's still often enough so that any place less then 30 minutes away walking, and there is no way i am getting into a car(as you may guess this leads to a ******** of walking)
for example on games: i cant play borderlands 2 for more then a few minutes before the room is all spinning the recoil is messing me up, and i cant play that game at all because i cant turn it off
it's because my right ear is out of whack(also have very bad hearing on that ear), many of those "fancy smooth movements" make my sence of balance think it's actually ME that's moving, and not the image on the screen
i agree the animation is very pretty, and it IS better then what was before... for MOST people.. dont tell me some of you find it offensive somehow that a few people prefer to not watch it, for medical reasons? Return varied color to Gallente ships! not everything looks good in DARK GREEN! |
sally Deninard
mss industry
18
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:49:00 -
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Hi, there is a tidied up jump animation on sisi according to the patchnotes posted. Here are the test sever details.
how to singularity
If you are having problems then pls go and check it out.. be proactive.
The system transition test server feedback thread is here
feedback thread
Please go try it and more importantly post feedback. Why a paid staff member can`t communicate this is a mystery.... sometimes there`s no need to troll
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Hannibalx
24
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Posted - 2013.09.01 00:40:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:sally Deninard wrote: No offense, but if they have worked on smoothing the camera swing that is indeed working on the issue...
We swing our cameras around quickly and wildly in space all the time with nary a complaint in 10 years. Seriously thinking this whole thing is just trolling the Devs.
Its not the same when you have control of the camera. Sorta like not getting motion sickness when you are in the drivers seat.
Please ccp lets have some real help here already. |
Pournstar FrenchFries
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.02 00:35:00 -
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CCP are a bunch of idiots it they wont give there paying customers the off switch personaly i had no problem with the little loading bar and i got to see activity on the gate at the other side alot faster then this bull **** animation and it isent a cop out to give ur customers what they want i dont get sick from it but i know ppl that do i find it annoying and boreing after 2 jumps anyway ccp must have ****** programmers if they cant add an off switch to there game allso pretty stupid not to add it to the main codeing |
handbanana
State War Academy Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:18:00 -
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Is there supposed to be some kind of improvement with this in Odyssey 1.1?
It pretty much looks the same to me.
GÇ£It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.GÇ¥ -á-á -Jack Handy
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Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
85
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:09:00 -
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handbanana wrote:Is there supposed to be some kind of improvement with this in Odyssey 1.1?
It pretty much looks the same to me.
It is the same. The EXACT same, and they've already said that to give us an off or fade to black option would be a cop-out.
Eve is a 3rd person view experience, and the gameplay and mechanics are built around that 3rd person view. It's disconcerting to the eyes when that view is abruptly changed as your camera is violently swung around to a first person view. It's not cool, and its NOT fun.
IMO, the animation sucks. It's like I'm being shuttled to the next system though a necrotic intestine, as if Gabriel's Trumpet is somehow producing me from the ass of an undead pig...
Anyway... we spoke up for 60+ pages, that's all we could do.
Mods- it's clear that CCP is going to stay the course on this, so I think you can lock this thread. In-game sounds muted since Retribution, F10 Jumper since Odyssey |
Barron Hammerstrike
RISK Inc.
38
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:10:00 -
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I have noticed that the animation has been smoothed out, but it is still a chore to watch. I totally walk away from the game for anything over 5 jumps. Before the animation was introduced I would actually sit through a higher number of jumps either manually or on auto and enjoyed it a little as I would fit a couple of salvage mods on my ship and salvage wrecks I saw at the gates. I no longer do this because I'm more concerned with getting to my destination "faster" so I can get the animations over with. there is no old system anymore |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
653
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:28:00 -
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Gun Dulf wrote:Jim Era wrote:Some of you should go out more often and you might not get sick when you move.... This is a brilliant analysis, you should consider to elaborate on this. Jim Era wrote:The new jump animation is much better than just disappearing from one place and appearing in another. No, it isn`t. Turn it off.
H T F U |
Laura Briggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:30:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote: H T F U
Internet tough guy much?
Please explain how the extra checkbox will affect YOUR gameplay. No, really. I want to hear that. Note - we are not talking about game balance here, just some nauseating eye candy.
And the "off" button is sorely needed. The "new" animation still makes me sick.
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Jonathan Peak
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:44:00 -
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I don't suffer any ill effects from the jump animation, but if it's anything like the nausea I get from most first-person shooters, then I know it's got to suck and I empathize.
This isn't really a HTFU situation. It's just the way some people work. I've played through it for games I've particularly enjoyed, but there's no getting over it, in my experience (though in at least some games, changing the FOV to around 90 degrees seems to alleviate the problem).
There doesn't appear to be a practical gameplay advantage or disadvantage that warrants forcing the effect on all players. CCP should introduce an option to use the old jump animation or an appropriate substitute. It's a matter of basic customer service. |
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George Fox
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:49:00 -
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Please allow us to turn it off, or fade it to black, or whatever.
Why is there a need to compel some customers to get motion sickness? |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
189
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:00:00 -
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I had 4 accounts. Two that were coming due for another one year subscription I just cancelled, after I consolidated the characters I wanted to keep onto the other two accounts. $100 bucks as opposed to $260.
My remaining accounts come due for another one year payment in December and February. I certainly hope I will not be cancelling those. But my play time keeps decreasing. And if there is not on/off button for the shitt nausating gate visuals and the pita autoscan clutter up my screen with ******* in the way diamonds and tron in space, then the next two will not be resubbed.
No one will be getting my stuff. Eventually they will fix this. They will have to. But until they do they are losing money from me and I bet from other people as well. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
653
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:20:00 -
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Laura Briggs wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote: H T F U
Internet tough guy much? Please explain how the extra checkbox will affect YOUR gameplay. No, really. I want to hear that. Note - we are not talking about game balance here, just some nauseating eye candy. And the "off" button is sorely needed. The "new" animation still makes me sick.
My actual solution would be to remove the spin/zoom to first person and just have the ship travel in the "tunnel" like in a warp. Noone would be allowed to ***** because we had this for so long without people making complaints and the immersion would still be there because we would not fade to black/have a loading bar.
Technically both side would have what they want but hey, I'm just an internet though guy telling people in EvE to HTFU... |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
391
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:43:00 -
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Patch fail - didn't include jump animation off switch. So much for understanding CCP.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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sally Deninard
mss industry
18
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:29:00 -
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Ok ,there is a reality to this whole situation for me. I have waited since June to see how this would pan out with a hope there would at least be some sort of middle ground resolution. I`ve dumbed down the graphics to toaster settings and it`s still been a problem for me even after the recent patch.I`ve looked out of the window... played minimised etc etc. I`ve looked on sisi when people have claimed there have been improvements but i`ll be honest, there hasn`t been that much done to it. Most of the improvements have been to the quality of it or making it more pretty and do nothing to change my game life. I play less because of it, and so Eve for me is slowly got to the point where it is not worth the money ,so i`m looking at what i`m going to keep going and what to cut away. It is clear that the animation is popular, and I do like the idea of it btw but it just causes me problems. It`s easy to get wrapped up in a for / against argument in this thread but that`s not the case. People defending it need to remember that some of us are trying with it, but it still sucks . I am not actually sure where this thread is even going anymore and am inclined to support a recent poster to get it locked.The conversation is very 1 way and it is clear that CCP have decided that they can afford to lose a few of us as a customer base. It may not be cost effective to try and resolve the issue and it has already been stated that there are significant programming challenges to overcome to put in an off switch.I can understand all of this. Fortunately my account subs come pre fitted with a convenient off switch, even if the animation does not :)
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1063
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Posted - 2013.09.04 10:36:00 -
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Sadly have to say that even if the animation has been tweaked, I barely undergo any difference.
CCP can't you just remove/change/alter/delete that swoop up animation at the beginning out of the whole?
Or just make 2 animations instead of an on/off switch so people can choose (always good) to pick one: an epic one and a we dun want to puke one.
-> One like its now and -> one that DOES NOT take the camera control out of our hands .
Ship comes to gate, gate activates, slide over tunnel animation WITHOUT changing our camera position, exit tunnel, done + no more puking . |
Daros Lavos
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 12:45:00 -
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My pc isn't the best and I only run one client but prior to the most recent patch I had noticed lag on system change where there was none before. Since the last patch i've not noticed any lag on system transition at all.
Honestly, the biggest issue I've had is the auto-focus with the camera. As at least 1 person before me has said, I know what i'm targeting but generally my camera is positioned where it is for a reason and having to zoom right out every time I click a new target or select a new item on the overview is incredibly frustrating. |
Beldaen Adoudel
Khan Exploration Society
3
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:34:00 -
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I really don't want to be paying for 2 accounts just to be staring at that map every time I need to jump. The patch brought no perceptible change.
Because they've done an ostrich on this issue, I must assume it will never be addressed. So I'll unsub both accounts and tell them the reason.
My two cents: it's time to stop complaining and just leave. |
Aldap
Club Bear
300
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:43:00 -
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The changes are not nearly enough. Off option is seriously needed. My latest solo PvP videos |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4571
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:15:00 -
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Daros Lavos wrote:My pc isn't the best and I only run one client but prior to the most recent patch I had noticed lag on system change where there was none before. Since the last patch i've not noticed any lag on system transition at all.
Honestly, the biggest issue I've had is the auto-focus with the camera. As at least 1 person before me has said, I know what i'm targeting but generally my camera is positioned where it is for a reason and having to zoom right out every time I click a new target or select a new item on the overview is incredibly frustrating. You can turn off the camera locking onto whatever you have selected. It will still do it during the jump sequence, but it will not do it anymore when you highlight an item in your overview. (Hopefully I've understood what your issue was correctly). To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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marVLs
396
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:19:00 -
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Srlsy go to doctor or something because it must be something terribly wrong with You if You feel bad because of that jump effect... or just stop lying ffs... |
sally Deninard
mss industry
19
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:40:00 -
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marVLs wrote:Srlsy go to doctor or something because it must be something terribly wrong with You if You feel bad because of that jump effect... or just stop lying ffs... thx for the bump
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Darth Installous
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:34:00 -
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Here I was, trying to find any information on how I can turn the system transition off.
Nauseating, like first-person shooters.
Also, I cannot but marvel at EVE's community. Yes, a few people did express support for those of us who feel nausea or get headaches. But most posts here seem to come from Tough Guys (TM). Sad.
No subscription from me, because of absolutely unprofessional dev response to this. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
656
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:51:00 -
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Darth Installous wrote:Here I was, trying to find any information on how I can turn the system transition off.
Nauseating, like first-person shooters.
Also, I cannot but marvel at EVE's community. Yes, a few people did express support for those of us who feel nausea or get headaches. But most posts here seem to come from Tough Guys (TM). Sad.
No subscription from me, because of absolutely unprofessional dev response to this.
The community of a game labeled as "harsh and cold" is "harsh and cold".
News at 11.
What exactly did you expect anyway? |
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:50:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Darth Installous wrote:Here I was, trying to find any information on how I can turn the system transition off.
Nauseating, like first-person shooters.
Also, I cannot but marvel at EVE's community. Yes, a few people did express support for those of us who feel nausea or get headaches. But most posts here seem to come from Tough Guys (TM). Sad.
No subscription from me, because of absolutely unprofessional dev response to this. The community of a game labeled as "harsh and cold" is "harsh and cold". News at 11. What exactly did you expect anyway?
I don't know, maybe maturity, humanity, respect? The players are not their characters, after all.
Just FYI, you are not "harsh and cold," you are just being childish and petty. Why don't you go take a time out before you embarass yourself. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4288
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:52:00 -
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Kirren D'marr wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Darth Installous wrote:Here I was, trying to find any information on how I can turn the system transition off.
Nauseating, like first-person shooters.
Also, I cannot but marvel at EVE's community. Yes, a few people did express support for those of us who feel nausea or get headaches. But most posts here seem to come from Tough Guys (TM). Sad.
No subscription from me, because of absolutely unprofessional dev response to this. The community of a game labeled as "harsh and cold" is "harsh and cold". News at 11. What exactly did you expect anyway? I don't know, maybe maturity, humanity, respect? The players are not their characters, after all. Just FYI, you are not "harsh and cold," you are just being childish and petty. Why don't you go take a time out before you embarass yourself. Hm, please do tell us more. Everyone is waiting eagerly to hear what you have to say about how evil everyone is There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4288
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:53:00 -
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Darth Installous wrote:Here I was, trying to find any information on how I can turn the system transition off.
Nauseating, like first-person shooters. Sadly, I don't think CCP even considered that anyone might want to turn it off.
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Giovannui wrote: is there a way to turn it off? If not, please give us the ability to use the old system again.
there is no old system anymore There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:46:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Darth Installous wrote:Here I was, trying to find any information on how I can turn the system transition off.
Nauseating, like first-person shooters.
Also, I cannot but marvel at EVE's community. Yes, a few people did express support for those of us who feel nausea or get headaches. But most posts here seem to come from Tough Guys (TM). Sad.
No subscription from me, because of absolutely unprofessional dev response to this. The community of a game labeled as "harsh and cold" is "harsh and cold". News at 11. What exactly did you expect anyway? I don't know, maybe maturity, humanity, respect? The players are not their characters, after all. Just FYI, you are not "harsh and cold," you are just being childish and petty. Why don't you go take a time out before you embarass yourself. Hm, please do tell us more. Everyone is waiting eagerly to hear what you have to say about how evil everyone is
Funny, I don't see where I said anything of the sort. By claiming "the players are not their characters," I was intending the exact opposite, i.e., being "harsh and cold" in the game does not mean one is such in reality. But if your own conscience is making you read things that aren't there, hey, that's your issue. |
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
89
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:39:00 -
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i'm going to have to say it, i prefer the loading system as it was in beta phase 6, ah, that was a good one it was: NOTHING no fade to black, no warp animation, it did not look cool
but it happened FASTER then the fade animation we switched from, and MUCH faster then the new animation
i'm a strong beliver in function before form, and thus, i want the FASTEST switch mode, no matter how it looks
look at it this way: it's a disguised loading screen why is it becoming longer just to look better? shouldnt less loading time be the desired goal here? Return varied color to Gallente ships! not everything looks good in DARK GREEN! |
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:10:00 -
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Eraza wrote:i'm going to have to say it, i prefer the loading system as it was in beta phase 6, ah, that was a good one it was: NOTHING no fade to black, no warp animation, it did not look cool
but it happened FASTER then the fade animation we switched from, and MUCH faster then the new animation
i'm a strong beliver in function before form, and thus, i want the FASTEST switch mode, no matter how it looks (edit: of course i want it pretty after speed has been insured)
look at it this way: it's a disguised loading screen why is it becoming longer just to look better? shouldnt less loading time be the desired goal here?
No argument here - better load times > pretty bells and whistles |
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