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Rondo Gunn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I agleed. Aktita for CMS. Here here. Adn, as mush as ti pians me ot say it, () ths nxt espanxion adn ti's currant shabbee stait (cumbiend wth ti's fasst aproechign releese dait) si maken me nervus. IMO <---- (adn let ti bee knone thsi si an enformed ((orr educated)) opineeun so thur si sum knowledge bahind ti) I think M10 si too soon. I think CCP byte off moar then they can choo. I hoep I am rong tho. Thsi si onlee my opineeun. So flaming troles can burn fer all I caer. ----------------------------------------------- shin ku myo u Please note: Everything I say is flavored with irony, cynicism and, of course, minty freshness.
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:11:00 - [62] Akita, day after day it seems like you are becoming more and more jaded. Sort of like Xaen did.
jam6549 Paladines	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:35:00 - [63] i really wanna punch someone because of your title
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:49:00 - [64] Edited by: Akita T on 16/02/2009 23:52:14 Originally by: Taedrin Akita, day after day it seems like you are becoming more and more jaded. Sort of like Xaen did. Xaen did make a lot of good points even recently (and a lot more in the past), but he's so hate-filled already you can't even call him "jaded" anymore. I like to hope I won't quite get "there" myself, but if the recent style of CCP performance towards old, unresolved issues keeps going... I am really in trouble Originally by: jam6549 i really wanna punch someone because of your title Rage projection ninjutsu, complete ! _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Cailais Amarr 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:54:00 - [65] tbh I think Akita is actually the one who's missing the 'big picture' here. If you look too closely, press your nose right up against the canvas like Akita has done, bemoaning pretty minor details such as rigs, then you'll miss the wide view. The real issues don't reside with what ship has x number of high slots, or whether a B Ops needs a bigger cargo bay. They exist in the arena of EVE Cosmos (extending EVE beyond the traditional client interface), WiS, planetary interaction and what 'Sovereignty' actually means (and no Im not talking about some naf bonuses to Outposts) within an MMO universe. C. Originally by: Capa So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:07:00 - [66] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 16/02/2009 23:52:14 Originally by: Taedrin Akita, day after day it seems like you are becoming more and more jaded. Sort of like Xaen did. Xaen did make a lot of good points even recently (and a lot more in the past), but he's so hate-filled already you can't even call him "jaded" anymore. I like to hope I won't quite get "there" myself, but if the recent style of CCP performance towards old, unresolved issues keeps going... I am really in trouble Originally by: jam6549 i really wanna punch someone because of your title Rage projection ninjutsu, complete ! Well, to be honest, it's taken CCP WAY too long to get the UI in order. The updated drone UI was nice, as were the updated hotkeys. Fleet UI update was nice too as it at least added glorious buttons that you can use instead of those evil right click menus. However, the problem is that the UI is fundamentally flawed. It doesn't need updates. It needs to be reworked from scratch. However, much as that is, I just can't stand all the hate that CCP has to endure. But this might just be because I'm a CCP fanboi.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:09:00 - [67] Originally by: Cailais stuff Like I said to somebody else before, that's not the "big picture", that's the "huge picture", the "out of visual range picture" even. My concern is with how EXISTING things fit together and work as a system, the balance of that particular system. Most people that play EVE never even get to be concerned about soveraignty mechanics, but having alchemy being as it is affects everybody who is able to use T2 gear (and that's almost everybody). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying sov issues are not worthy of attention... quite the contrary... but calling THOSE things important (which, while massive in scale only affect a small number of people) and dismissing some trivial things (that DO affect a LOT of people, that is not to say almost everybody... and affect them noticeably) as "not worthy of being considered a part of the big picture" is a bit conceited on your behalf. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Uzume Ame	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:12:00 - [68] Originally by: Cailais tbh I think Akita is actually the one who's missing the 'big picture' here. If you look too closely, press your nose right up against the canvas like Akita has done, bemoaning pretty minor details such as rigs, then you'll miss the wide view. The real issues don't reside with what ship has x number of high slots, or whether a B Ops needs a bigger cargo bay. They exist in the arena of EVE Cosmos (extending EVE beyond the traditional client interface), WiS, planetary interaction and what 'Sovereignty' actually means (and no Im not talking about some naf bonuses to Outposts) within an MMO universe. C. This man is talking truth (usually, worth reading his posts). Stop moaning, be productive and post about nitpicking issues you are complaining about over CSM forums, and please please please don't jump on conclussions (about next patches/expanssions). I know a lot of times CCP could be much better/faster improving/fixing/balancing or adding new content, but it's not as easy as it seems and EVE afterall is just an ecosystem with thousands of players wanting hundreads of different things and influencing each other actions. The bigger picture has been allways clear, is about provinding tools for you to build the universe, sandbox is said. Then you need to factor how each player plays the game and how mechanics can lead to more freedom of action without screwing too much. Teh failure of a signature.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:15:00 - [69] Originally by: Taedrin However, much as that is, I just can't stand all the hate that CCP has to endure. But this might just be because I'm a CCP fanboi. Akita T... putting the sting into constructive criticism Seriously, asking nicely doesn't help. Asking the CSM doesn't help much yet in the format the CSM is supposed to work at the time being, unless you can gather a lot of support... but people would rather "see titans in highsec", "not let people mine into orcas", "reverse the ghost training" or "investigate person <xyz>" than have some basic, long-lasting issues discussed (partially because they almost believe they're a lost cause, partially because they got used to it and no longer care). Therefore, what else is left to do ? Well, you might as well "call them out" on the stuff you feel it's not quite right, since you have absolutely nothing to lose... even if prospects of improvement are dire. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
jongalt	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:19:00 - [70] LOL. akita T is the paul krugman of the eve-online forums... -jg.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:24:00 - [71] Originally by: jongalt LOL. akita T is the paul krugman of the eve-online forums... -jg. It's more like Carlton Banks of the Eve-Online forums. Short, not very smart, and constantly trying to make up for his lack of social graces. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:32:00 - [72] Originally by: Uzume Ame Stop moaning, be productive and post about nitpicking issues you are complaining about over CSM forums, and please please please don't jump on conclussions (about next patches/expanssions). Oh, you mean... keep doing the same thing I used to do for the past TWO YEARS and seeing negligible improvements (but usually none whatsoever) ? Next time you chastize something for not trying to contribute, it would help if you did your background research first. Quote: I know a lot of times CCP could be much better/faster improving/fixing/balancing or adding new content, but it's not as easy as it seems YES, IT FREAKING IS EASY. If you would have frequented the MD subforum more often, you would have noticed how a lot of the MD regulars properly predicted (and heavily capitalized on) the changes CCP made, proving without a shadow of a doubt that they are far more adept at determining the EXACT effect changes CCP makes will have in the future. CCP has a long-lasting tradition of introducing heavily pre-nerfed, next-to-useless content, and seldom revisiting it afterwards in spite of promises to do so Soon™, in spite of protests of veteran testers when it first hits SiSi, in spite of continued pressure from users of that particular new addition/feature/whatever. The times they DO get it absolutely right are almost completely random. I mean, yeah, sure, you CAN just throw stuff in and see how things get, and only change something again if it gets really, really bad and enough people scream for blood... but when the same thing could have been smoothly introduced, it makes you want to tear your hair out in frustration. Quote: and EVE afterall is just an ecosystem with thousands of players wanting hundreads of different things and influencing each other actions. An ecosystem CCP seems to be quite incapable of properly analysing, let alone preficting, even with the aid of their Economy professor. Again, you only need to "lurk m0ar" into MD to see what I mean by that. Quote: The bigger picture has been allways clear, is about provinding tools for you to build the universe, sandbox is said. A hammer, anvil and a truckload of gravel is also a tool for a sandbox. Doesn't mean it's suitable. Quote: Then you need to factor how each player plays the game and how mechanics can lead to more freedom of action without screwing too much. Blah blah blah, no you don't. This last part of your post proves you understand how EVE really works even less than most people at CCP do. MAYBE some people at CCP understand how it all works, but derive some twisted pleasure out of seeing everything go out of whack every time they do something new. Maybe it's all a cruel economic experiment for the benefit of the doctor. Maybe we should all buy stocks in T3 tinfoil hats... who knows ? Either way, it's more soothing than simply saying "CCP are a captainless ship heading in the general direction we want to go to, but never getting to any destination"... more convenient to assign malice than claim incompetence... who knows ? Long story short, no, it's not hard, and there ARE people who repeatedly proved that they're generally right about things, yet CCP either doesn't know they exist, or ignores them, or worse, they know they exist and they take their input into consideration, but for some reasons almost always reach not the best (or downright wrong) conclusions or make suboptimal decisions. Take it as you will... pfft _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Aricaan Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:33:00 - [73] Considering you have enough time to write out all these well thought out posts and instead of complaining... maybe you should just make your own game. Just saying.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:34:00 - [74] Originally by: Aricaan Considering you have enough time to write out all these well thought out posts and instead of complaining... maybe you should just make your own game. Just saying. Perhaps he could go to SOE with his idea... Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:37:00 - [75] Edited by: Akita T on 17/02/2009 00:38:19 Originally by: Aricaan Considering you have enough time to write out all these well thought out posts and instead of complaining... maybe you should just make your own game. Just saying. Considering you have enough time to at least partially read and then reply to my posts, instead of complaining about my complaining, you should go out and build a house from scratch and make a decent profit selling it. Or just move into it. I mean, the level of effort required is about the same as your suggestion (maybe even easier), so, you know, just saying. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:45:00 - [76] i knew it AKITA was sold she never ranted like on this scale before and it seem in the last week or 2 she has been on this trend where as before she would just be there and point things out we the forum elite know and have been posting with you for a long time This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:00:00 - [77] Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 17/02/2009 01:00:28 Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 17/02/2009 00:38:19 Originally by: Aricaan Considering you have enough time to write out all these well thought out posts and instead of complaining... maybe you should just make your own game. Just saying. Considering you have enough time to at least partially read and then reply to my posts, instead of complaining about my complaining, you should go out and build a house from scratch and make a decent profit selling it. Or just move into it. I mean, the level of effort required is about the same as your suggestion (maybe even easier), so, you know, just saying. You mean...one way allows you to actually complain and pretend like you can do everything... ...the other way you are confronted with the reality of the situation and can't rant like an over privileged child anymore. Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 17/02/2009 00:48:09 i knew it AKITA was sold she never ranted like on this scale before and it seem in the last week or 2 she has been on this trend where as before she would just be there and point things out and help the people that ask questions :P we the forum elite know and have been posting with you for a long time Akita was always a horribly worthless poster. If they got sold, then there would be nowhere to go but up. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:05:00 - [78] Originally by: Armoured C she never ranted like on this scale before You must be new here Here, have a few older ones... Linkage Linkage Linkage Linkage Linkage ...in no particular order _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Isil Rahsen Ferrum Superum	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:25:00 - [79] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 17/02/2009 01:09:51 Originally by: Armoured C she never ranted like on this scale before You must be new here Here, have a few older ones... Linkage Linkage Linkage Linkage Linkage ...in no particular order EDIT : the last one is hillarious in particular because they did just that, but it was still useless for the particular issues listed as a reason. Originally by: An Anarchyyt Akita was always a horribly worthless poster. If they got sold, then there would be nowhere to go but up. I love you too, meatbag You are so completely full of yourself it is painful to even read the diatribe you spew onto these forums. If this game is so horrible and CCP fail so much then do the rest of us a favor and leave so we no longer have to be bothered with your complaints over everything. CCP is not perfect but who the hell could be when you have thousands of disparaging idiots like yourself who can do everything better. How about next time instead of pssing and moaning about things you know next to nothing about, maybe offer some constructive ideas instead of a worthless little rant. When you have run a successful multi-national game design firm and have 250k suscribers to try and please atleast a little bit because you'll never please them all (as proved daily on these forums) then you can claim your smarter than CCP about the game THEY* make.
Jor Talh Gallente Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Nex Eternus	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:38:00 - [80] Originally by: Vaal Erit Edited by: Vaal Erit on 16/02/2009 11:40:31 Akita T must have been absent on the day Zulupark answered all questions I'll say it one last time, CCP (like ever other video game company) throws stuff out there not exactly finished and has to constantly tweak it after it comes onto TQ. Sisi is just testing that the thing will run on Tranq. After that, we test it on tranq and CCP is busy throwing out more new stuff so they don't get around to fixing half the stuff they threw out there. A lot of stuff seems real obvious after it hits tranq for a few years. CCP is slow like a turtle in a coma sometimes. Ankh is spot on here, make a CSM proposal with clear questions and constructive feedback or gtfo. Omg, I agree with Anhk I feel so dirty, someone get it off me please. edit: omg now I get to troll Akitas CSM thread, yippie! Would anyone happen to have a link to the actual answers? All I see is a 16 page thread of questions. The answers would be cool.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:41:00 - [81] Originally by: Isil Rahsen You are so completely full of yourself it is painful to even read the diatribe you spew onto these forums. Not my fault you confuse bitterness and knowledge with arrogance and stupidity. Quote: If this game is so horrible and CCP fail so much then do the rest of us a favor and leave so we no longer have to be bothered with your complaints over everything. IF CCP would "fail" so much they would be beyond hope, then I would indeed waste my breath. The mere fact I do bother posting means I consider there is still plenty of hope left. When very little hope would be left, I would simply stop posting, THEN as no more hope is left at all simply quit. Quote: CCP is not perfect but who the hell could be when you have thousands of disparaging idiots like yourself who can do everything better. How about next time instead of pssing and moaning about things you know next to nothing about, maybe offer some constructive ideas instead of a worthless little rant. This "worthless little rant" WAS* a constructive idea, numbskull. Learn to read. Just because I am not sugarcoating it doesn't make it a RANT. Quote: When you have run a successful multi-national game design firm and have 250k suscribers to try and please atleast a little bit because you'll never please them all (as proved daily on these forums) then you can claim your smarter than CCP about the game *THEY* make. When you either lived my life OR made enough predictions/warnings about this game that came through, THEN you can claim you know EVEN REMOTELY as much as I do, or are capable of understanding what this is all about. Until then, shut your worthless piehole and go cry in a corner in yo'momma's lap, let the big boys handle the forums. m'kay ? _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Anile8er Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:45:00 - [82] I didnt read the OP...... but based on the topic I will post FLAMED
Isil Rahsen Ferrum Superum	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:56:00 - [83] Originally by: Akita T Not my fault you confuse bitterness and knowledge with arrogance and stupidity. There is no confusion to be had, you take it upon yourself to point out that plenty of people are more capable of balacing this game and coming up with ideas than CCP as seen here. Originally by: Akita T An ecosystem CCP seems to be quite incapable of properly analysing, let alone preficting, even with the aid of their Economy professor. Again, you only need to "lurk m0ar" into MD to see what I mean by that. Originally by: Akita T IF CCP would "fail" so much they would be beyond hope, then I would indeed waste my breath. The mere fact I do bother posting means I consider there is still plenty of hope left. When very little hope would be left, I would simply stop posting, THEN as no more hope is left at all simply quit. You seem to imply they fail pretty well in the quote above this one, try again to backpeddle k? Originally by: Akita T This "worthless little rant" WAS a constructive idea, numbskull. Learn to read. Just because I am not sugarcoating it doesn't make it a RANT. No it is a rant because CCP isn't coming along and holding your hand with designing their game. CCP already does what you want as pointed out above when CCP Zulupark answered any question that was asked and said it would be a regular occurence from there on out. Originally by: Akita T When you either lived my life OR made enough predictions/warnings about this game that came through, THEN you can claim you know EVEN REMOTELY as much as I do, or are capable of understanding what this is all about. Until then, shut your worthless piehole and go cry in a corner in yo'momma's lap, let the big boys handle the forums. m'kay ? Unless you work for a game design firm that has a successful MMO with 250k suscribers and are a vertible balance machine your life and prediction mean exactly squat to me. Until then you know absolutely nothing about the technical limitations imposed by this games engine, the financial impacts of dedicating development time away from keeping the game fresh and drawing in new customers to fixing issues that are already in the que but simply haven't been gotten to yet. This quote just goes to show how full of yourself you really are. Stop being a bumbling idiot and leave the forums to people who actually have a brain, and not just a worthless whine.
Professor Jinmei	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:57:00 - [84] so... can i has your stuff?
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.17 01:58:00 - [85] Haha, you think your threads are actually constructive. That is some of the most delusional thinking I have seen in a long time. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Element 22 Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.17 02:01:00 - [86] EvE Online Forums: If you post a troll post people will troll you right back. If you post a reasonable post it will be trolled. If you post a reasonable post that brings up valid or even semi- valid points people will troll you and then begin to attack your charecter or answer with reducto ad absurdum attakcs (might have gotten the names wrong, but arguing the extreme of a suggestion). Good points have been made. And while I understand the futility of asking, can we please not attack Aktika simply for bringing up some questions. Signatures are annoying...kinda like me.
eFart	Posted - 2009.02.17 02:02:00 - [87] lol op better take a breake
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.02.17 02:43:00 - [88] Originally by: Element 22 reducto ad absurdum attakcs (might have gotten the names wrong, but arguing the extreme of a suggestion). You mean the excluded middle logical/rhetorical fallacy? The one that attempts to claim that no middle ground exists, and you are either on one end of the spectrum, or the other? I always found that fallacy confusing, because the Excluded Middle is actually a law under boolean logic - because there IS no middle ground under boolean logic. Only true and false.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.17 02:44:00 - [89] Edited by: Akita T on 17/02/2009 02:46:41 Originally by: Isil Rahsen Unless you work for a game design firm that has a successful MMO with 250k suscribers and are a veritable balance machine your life and prediction mean exactly squat to me. Oh, hey, great thinking... "unless you work for Blizzard or CCP, your can not possibly have any good ideas". Up yours. Originally by: Element 22 ~~EvE Online~~ Forums: If you post a troll post people will troll you right back. If you post a reasonable post it will be trolled. If you post a reasonable post that brings up valid or even semi- valid points people will troll you and then begin to attack you So you might as well start by trolling while still bringing a message across on top of the troll, because at least this way the thread keeps on going, fueled by "rage of the unwashed masses". Hooray for failing to notice the "do not feed the trolls" signs Originally by: Taedrin Originally by: Element 22 reducto ad absurdum You mean the excluded middle logical/rhetorical fallacy? No, he means "Reductio ad absurdum"... _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Rondo Gunn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.17 02:50:00 - [90] Originally by: Taedrin Originally by: Element 22 reducto ad absurdum attakcs (might have gotten the names wrong, but arguing the extreme of a suggestion). You mean the excluded middle logical/rhetorical fallacy? The one that attempts to claim that no middle ground exists, and you are either on one end of the spectrum, or the other? I always found that fallacy confusing, because the Excluded Middle is actually a law under boolean logic - because there IS no middle ground under boolean logic. Only true and false. boolean is such a funny word. ----------------------------------------------- shin ku myo u Please note: Everything I say is flavored with irony, cynicism and, of course, minty freshness.

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