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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:28:00 -
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hows bout dis no Concord or sec hit till the target hits 25% and ta avoid people splitin to avoid it if say Ship A takes victom to 30% and other guy knocks him past 25% both are now seen as crminals and concord warps in a ganks them both plus, can we have REASONABLE response a 3 BS fleet ta wipe a crook in a frig aint justifable
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:28:00 -
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hows bout dis no Concord or sec hit till the target hits 25% and ta avoid people splitin to avoid it if say Ship A takes victom to 30% and other guy knocks him past 25% both are now seen as crminals and concord warps in a ganks them both plus, can we have REASONABLE response a 3 BS fleet ta wipe a crook in a frig aint justifable
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:36:00 -
[33]
maybe you should ask olyyy for money
but im sorry for your lose m8 Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:36:00 -
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maybe you should ask olyyy for money
but im sorry for your lose m8 Wanna fly with me?
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:37:00 -
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Welcome to how MMORPGs work. They promise allot and they frustrate you to the point where you go scr3w this. Almost lost another corpmate to some idiotic thing a few days ago. He is a little calmer after a few days. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:37:00 -
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Welcome to how MMORPGs work. They promise allot and they frustrate you to the point where you go scr3w this. Almost lost another corpmate to some idiotic thing a few days ago. He is a little calmer after a few days. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:40:00 -
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...(I always stayed within empire space for the missions, so no insurance was needed because it was "safe")
There's one of your problems right there.
Assumption is a ***** huh?
_________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You |

teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:40:00 -
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...(I always stayed within empire space for the missions, so no insurance was needed because it was "safe")
There's one of your problems right there.
Assumption is a ***** huh?
_________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You |

sciw0lverine
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:45:00 -
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who's GM and why you talked to them?
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sciw0lverine
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:45:00 -
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who's GM and why you talked to them?
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:19:00 -
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there are so many things wrong with this, where to start... 1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think) 2) mining in high sec in a BS, without insurance, is one thing, but have you never lost a ship on a mission, from lag, or mis-estimating how long it would take to warp away?
insurance is a good thing.
CCP needs to work on Documentation, big time
but in the situation in the initial post... is it right that you can be blown up for accidentally hitting a friend, in a non-harmful (in that case) way? no. but there really isn't a real good away around it, I don't think, that doesn't have worse problems than the one its solving.
Put SB's on higher numbered High slots. Get Insurance if your going to be even remotely in any combat.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:19:00 -
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there are so many things wrong with this, where to start... 1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think) 2) mining in high sec in a BS, without insurance, is one thing, but have you never lost a ship on a mission, from lag, or mis-estimating how long it would take to warp away?
insurance is a good thing.
CCP needs to work on Documentation, big time
but in the situation in the initial post... is it right that you can be blown up for accidentally hitting a friend, in a non-harmful (in that case) way? no. but there really isn't a real good away around it, I don't think, that doesn't have worse problems than the one its solving.
Put SB's on higher numbered High slots. Get Insurance if your going to be even remotely in any combat.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek there are so many things wrong with this, where to start... 1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think)
Hah! so true, I used to use a caracal and never had a problem with agent missions, my armageddon happens to be complete overkill for these missions. but time = money  ................. |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek there are so many things wrong with this, where to start... 1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think)
Hah! so true, I used to use a caracal and never had a problem with agent missions, my armageddon happens to be complete overkill for these missions. but time = money  ................. |

Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 01:51:00 -
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Please focus at the problam at hand, concord, im nto the only one here who has been ganked by them without good reason.
Wether I could/couldnt handle the npcs in an armageddon, wether I should fit the smartbomb on a low/high slots. That has nothing to do with this.
This isnt about agentmissions, but about how concord reacts in these situations.
Any of you who have more ideas/solutions that might be a good idea?
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 01:51:00 -
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Please focus at the problam at hand, concord, im nto the only one here who has been ganked by them without good reason.
Wether I could/couldnt handle the npcs in an armageddon, wether I should fit the smartbomb on a low/high slots. That has nothing to do with this.
This isnt about agentmissions, but about how concord reacts in these situations.
Any of you who have more ideas/solutions that might be a good idea?
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:34:00 -
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I went out in my first Cruiser a Thorax brand new just got it i was killing NPC by a gate in a .5 system i acidently locked a Concord ship and i was in a pod
this hapened when i had not even been playing 30 days
my first BS a Dom just rolled out of the Corp Production line i had been playing a good 3-4 months i was in a .5 system i decided to do some NPC hunting warped into a belt where 2 other ships was mining i killed the NPC my comp crashed i logged back in and was in a pod with concord in the belt i had no missiles (Dominex has no missile slots) no smartbomb's or the likes the petition peoble said i attacked another player the player i supposely attacked said i did not acording to he's logs and i said i did not acording to my logs yet i lost the dom and was told that what concord did was correct
its hapened to me several times i get mad i think its BS but what can i do i am adicted to EVE
truth of the matter is a simple little butten saying you need assistence yes/no would proberly solve this also getting locked down and fined if you attack sentry's and/or Concord in safe space would be better then the instagank you get now from them also letting Concord have intercepters do their scrambling for them (like the NPC rats) might give you a chance to make a run for it cause the way it is now Concord scrambles you and then kill you there is no fairness to it no thought
granted it was due to mOo this was done i still dont feel it was the right thing to do though
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:34:00 -
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I went out in my first Cruiser a Thorax brand new just got it i was killing NPC by a gate in a .5 system i acidently locked a Concord ship and i was in a pod
this hapened when i had not even been playing 30 days
my first BS a Dom just rolled out of the Corp Production line i had been playing a good 3-4 months i was in a .5 system i decided to do some NPC hunting warped into a belt where 2 other ships was mining i killed the NPC my comp crashed i logged back in and was in a pod with concord in the belt i had no missiles (Dominex has no missile slots) no smartbomb's or the likes the petition peoble said i attacked another player the player i supposely attacked said i did not acording to he's logs and i said i did not acording to my logs yet i lost the dom and was told that what concord did was correct
its hapened to me several times i get mad i think its BS but what can i do i am adicted to EVE
truth of the matter is a simple little butten saying you need assistence yes/no would proberly solve this also getting locked down and fined if you attack sentry's and/or Concord in safe space would be better then the instagank you get now from them also letting Concord have intercepters do their scrambling for them (like the NPC rats) might give you a chance to make a run for it cause the way it is now Concord scrambles you and then kill you there is no fairness to it no thought
granted it was due to mOo this was done i still dont feel it was the right thing to do though
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Lan2
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tristan Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks.
Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
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Lan2
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tristan Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks.
Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 09:37:00 -
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Quote: Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
Quote: There's one of your problems right there. Assumption is a ***** huh?
Quote: best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks. Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
Thank you Tristan/teh pR3acH3r/lan2, your replies are really interesting to read, not to mention verry helpfull as well.
But I agree with Parralax Error, If your in a gang or in the same corporation teamdamage should be allowed (or concord should ask if it was an error or not)
Sciw0lverine: I talked to GM Fate to assist me with this, he knows about the problems with concord. It was hes idea to tell me and post here on the forums in the first place.
Drakxter: I share your vision, I will try to make the GMs look into this topic and maybe they whill realize they need to change something, but then again they could just ignore it..
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 09:37:00 -
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Quote: Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
Quote: There's one of your problems right there. Assumption is a ***** huh?
Quote: best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks. Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
Thank you Tristan/teh pR3acH3r/lan2, your replies are really interesting to read, not to mention verry helpfull as well.
But I agree with Parralax Error, If your in a gang or in the same corporation teamdamage should be allowed (or concord should ask if it was an error or not)
Sciw0lverine: I talked to GM Fate to assist me with this, he knows about the problems with concord. It was hes idea to tell me and post here on the forums in the first place.
Drakxter: I share your vision, I will try to make the GMs look into this topic and maybe they whill realize they need to change something, but then again they could just ignore it..
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.08 11:22:00 -
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And even without that. If I'm mining away happily and somebody comes along to steal my ore I want to be able to shoot his a55. Imagine that in real life somebody walks up to you and takes away your groceries from you, you punch him in the face, wouldn't you?
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.08 11:22:00 -
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And even without that. If I'm mining away happily and somebody comes along to steal my ore I want to be able to shoot his a55. Imagine that in real life somebody walks up to you and takes away your groceries from you, you punch him in the face, wouldn't you?
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MIsh4nTi
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Posted - 2004.08.08 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act because people were asking people to join gang and then gank them without any interferance from CONCORD. Imo if you join someone¦s gang then you are automatically saying that you trust him and telling CONCORD not to interfere but that¦s only my view.
good point but not all newer players know this so CONCORD will always interfere as it should be. ------------------------------------------------ **Hired Recruiter for TPOD**
TPOD ALLIANCE is Recruiting.....for more info click here. |

MIsh4nTi
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Posted - 2004.08.08 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act because people were asking people to join gang and then gank them without any interferance from CONCORD. Imo if you join someone¦s gang then you are automatically saying that you trust him and telling CONCORD not to interfere but that¦s only my view.
good point but not all newer players know this so CONCORD will always interfere as it should be. ------------------------------------------------ **Hired Recruiter for TPOD**
TPOD ALLIANCE is Recruiting.....for more info click here. |

Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response? If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed. ---
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response? If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed. ---
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IIVY
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Posted - 2004.08.08 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Terrapin
Originally by: Dust Puppy Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response? If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
its not stupid! just imagine all the newer players just starting and out of no where some pirate gang invites the rookie, gang warps to the rookie and bang!! he/she is dead, oh look another n00b to gang invite get my point?
there would be mass murdering in all 1.0 space and CONCORD wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about it.
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**Director and Queen of TPOD Corp**
TPOD ALLIANCE is Recruiting......click here for more info.
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IIVY
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Posted - 2004.08.08 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Terrapin
Originally by: Dust Puppy Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response? If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
its not stupid! just imagine all the newer players just starting and out of no where some pirate gang invites the rookie, gang warps to the rookie and bang!! he/she is dead, oh look another n00b to gang invite get my point?
there would be mass murdering in all 1.0 space and CONCORD wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about it.
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**Proud Member Of TPOD Alliance**
**Director and Queen of TPOD Corp**
TPOD ALLIANCE is Recruiting......click here for more info.
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