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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:09:00 -
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Some time ago something ****ty happend to me, its basecly my own fault, but I have a belief that concord overreacted as well.
I was doing agentmissions for a LVL3 agent (security) and as you all know LVL3 is a bit hard to do by yourself, especially when you are not so experienced with PvP.
So I asked friend if he could help me.
Togetter we formed a gang and we did some missions togetter.
As some point I had to clean up my bureau for a minute because it was such a mess, we both waited at a planet.
While cleaning my bureau I accidently pressed F1 (just where I had a smartbomb fitted ) and I splashdamaged my gangpartner.
At that time I tought it was OK, since he was in my gang.
So I continiue to clean up my bureau when all the sudden several concord BSs/cruisers and frigates warp on me and start destroying my ship.
(I always stayed within empire space for the missions, so no insurance was needed because it was "safe")
Concord destroyed my armageddon, leaving me with approx 70-80M isk in losses.
I asked the GM's to help me 2 times now, but they say its my own fault.
They say that CONCORD is programmed to act like this and there is nothing they will do about it.
Gm quote removed. Please do not quote gms verbatim on the forums - Orestes
Im not going to say anything myself about this "incident" or rather "legal massacre", but I would like to know if there are any people out there who have the same problem and if they know some solutions for this.
If we can come up with good solutions and alot of people feel the same way, maybe CCP will design concord diffrently in shiva or another patch.
So lets hear it people, name your incident with concord and give some solutions to fix this!
(no flaming, keep it nice and positif reactions only plz.)
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:09:00 -
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Some time ago something ****ty happend to me, its basecly my own fault, but I have a belief that concord overreacted as well.
I was doing agentmissions for a LVL3 agent (security) and as you all know LVL3 is a bit hard to do by yourself, especially when you are not so experienced with PvP.
So I asked friend if he could help me.
Togetter we formed a gang and we did some missions togetter.
As some point I had to clean up my bureau for a minute because it was such a mess, we both waited at a planet.
While cleaning my bureau I accidently pressed F1 (just where I had a smartbomb fitted) and I splashdamaged my gangpartner.
At that time I tought it was OK, since he was in my gang.
So I continiue to clean up my bureau when all the sudden several concord BSs/cruisers and frigates warp on me and start destroying my ship.
(I always stayed within empire space for the missions, so no insurance was needed because it was "safe")
Concord destroyed my armageddon, leaving me with approx 70-80M isk in losses.
I asked the GM's to help me 2 times now, but they say its my own fault.
They say that CONCORD is programmed to act like this and there is nothing they will do about it.
Gm quote removed. Please do not quote gms verbatim on the forums - Orestes
Im not going to say anything myself about this "incident" or rather "legal massacre", but I would like to know if there are any people out there who have the same problem and if they know some solutions for this.
If we can come up with good solutions and alot of people feel the same way, maybe CCP will design concord diffrently in shiva or another patch.
So lets hear it people, name your incident with concord and give some solutions to fix this!
(no flaming, keep it nice and positif reactions only plz.)
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:12:00 -
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LOL... Welcome to EVE Online Ac3s
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:12:00 -
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LOL... Welcome to EVE Online Ac3s
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:17:00 -
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don't think you're allowed to quote gm's here, better remove that bit.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:17:00 -
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don't think you're allowed to quote gm's here, better remove that bit.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Ac3s
While cleaning my bureau I accidently pressed F1 (just where I had a smartbomb fitted) and I splashdamaged my gangpartner.
this is precisly why i put my smartbombs (when using them) and missiles in my highest hi-slots. The F3 and above are less likely to be accidently be set off... especially if i am alt-F1ing my afterburners.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ac3s
While cleaning my bureau I accidently pressed F1 (just where I had a smartbomb fitted) and I splashdamaged my gangpartner.
this is precisly why i put my smartbombs (when using them) and missiles in my highest hi-slots. The F3 and above are less likely to be accidently be set off... especially if i am alt-F1ing my afterburners.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Cutter John
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:42:00 -
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wow... gang members cant hit each other? i always assumed they could. wonder if they could make smartbombs "smart" and miss/not effect gang/corpmates... you send them data that allows them to adjust there shields to completely deflect the wave .. might be good seeing that smartbombs cause so many problems in empire.
and that quote should be ok, since its explaining game mechanics.
My Idea Thread
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Cutter John
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Posted - 2004.08.07 12:42:00 -
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wow... gang members cant hit each other? i always assumed they could. wonder if they could make smartbombs "smart" and miss/not effect gang/corpmates... you send them data that allows them to adjust there shields to completely deflect the wave.. might be good seeing that smartbombs cause so many problems in empire.
and that quote should be ok, since its explaining game mechanics.
My Idea Thread
Give Drones Love! |
Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:16:00 -
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LOL, they removed the quote.
anyway....omg?
how about a screenshot of it? is that allowed? :p
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:16:00 -
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LOL, they removed the quote.
anyway....omg?
how about a screenshot of it? is that allowed? :p
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ac3s
LOL, they removed the quote.
anyway....omg?
how about a screenshot of it? is that allowed? :p
Nope. You better don't discuss it here. Cause your thread will be locked for discusssing moderation if you do.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ac3s
LOL, they removed the quote.
anyway....omg?
how about a screenshot of it? is that allowed? :p
Nope. You better don't discuss it here. Cause your thread will be locked for discusssing moderation if you do.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:50:00 -
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Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act because people were asking people to join gang and then gank them without any interferance from CONCORD. Imo if you join someone¦s gang then you are automatically saying that you trust him and telling CONCORD not to interfere but that¦s only my view.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:50:00 -
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Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act because people were asking people to join gang and then gank them without any interferance from CONCORD. Imo if you join someone¦s gang then you are automatically saying that you trust him and telling CONCORD not to interfere but that¦s only my view.
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Drakxter
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:56:00 -
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CCP aint into being fair..
Just like corp thiefs..
The thiefs get all the benefits from the game, and are allowed to ruin the game play in a matter of mins for many other players..
While us that get hurt just get told to .... off... In a nice way ofcourse. 
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Drakxter
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Posted - 2004.08.07 13:56:00 -
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CCP aint into being fair..
Just like corp thiefs..
The thiefs get all the benefits from the game, and are allowed to ruin the game play in a matter of mins for many other players..
While us that get hurt just get told to .... off... In a nice way ofcourse.
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Most tired of thing atm:
- Mods on the forum saying: "Please use the bug report page to submit bugs, the forum is not the place to post them." and then closing a topic. |
Tristan
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:09:00 -
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Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:09:00 -
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Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
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Junkzinat0r
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:17:00 -
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Heh, I'm a green n00b in the Eve universe, but I have a little story, and a moral to it!
I was playing for a couple of days, bought myself a shiny new frigate and kitted it out for mining. I was mining with a friend who was also a green player and to make a few bucks we decided to mine some Veld in a 1.0 system (as n00bs often do obviously).
To save a little time from running back and forth to a station to deposit a hold full of ore, I jetisoned a can and we both started loading that up 'til another friend could come and haul for us.
Things were going along swimingly, then out of the blue some dude flys past and all of a sudden theres a bookmark in my can saying "you have been slurped" and the contents of ore less than it was...
I laughed the first time and said to my friend "we just got ripped off by some turd!" and continued on my merry mining way. Then he came back for another grab, and this time I got annoyed.
The third time he came back to steal our ore, I targeted him and fired! I had taken 2/3rds of his hitpoints when CONCORD absolutely pummeled my poor little frigate into so much space dust...
I was quite upset when I warped back to the station, bought another ship, fitted it out, left and was consequently demolished by CONCORD once again... It was then (well actually after doing some reading and learning) that I discovered that this was a case of art imitating life.
Trust no one, and keep your sidearm handy. Even in empire space.
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Junkzinat0r
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:17:00 -
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Heh, I'm a green n00b in the Eve universe, but I have a little story, and a moral to it!
I was playing for a couple of days, bought myself a shiny new frigate and kitted it out for mining. I was mining with a friend who was also a green player and to make a few bucks we decided to mine some Veld in a 1.0 system (as n00bs often do obviously).
To save a little time from running back and forth to a station to deposit a hold full of ore, I jetisoned a can and we both started loading that up 'til another friend could come and haul for us.
Things were going along swimingly, then out of the blue some dude flys past and all of a sudden theres a bookmark in my can saying "you have been slurped" and the contents of ore less than it was...
I laughed the first time and said to my friend "we just got ripped off by some turd!" and continued on my merry mining way. Then he came back for another grab, and this time I got annoyed.
The third time he came back to steal our ore, I targeted him and fired! I had taken 2/3rds of his hitpoints when CONCORD absolutely pummeled my poor little frigate into so much space dust...
I was quite upset when I warped back to the station, bought another ship, fitted it out, left and was consequently demolished by CONCORD once again... It was then (well actually after doing some reading and learning) that I discovered that this was a case of art imitating life.
Trust no one, and keep your sidearm handy. Even in empire space.
They build. I fight. You pray. |
Drakxter
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:31:00 -
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To help CCP I will ones more share my idea that I have posted many times..
When you attack a person, the attacked person should have a window pop up, in a place where it would not be in the way, that would allow that person to tell Concord: Dont attack the player that attacked me, it was just an error..
It could be expanded so CONCORD jumps in and scrambles and jams the attacker for 20-30 secs first, so the attack maybe could say sorry.. and the attacked could then act apon that..
Anyway.. Its been put up many times, but CCP just dont care. Instead they go around now changing things out of the blue, for no good reasons, or at all telling us first so we can reply to it.
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Drakxter
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:31:00 -
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To help CCP I will ones more share my idea that I have posted many times..
When you attack a person, the attacked person should have a window pop up, in a place where it would not be in the way, that would allow that person to tell Concord: Dont attack the player that attacked me, it was just an error..
It could be expanded so CONCORD jumps in and scrambles and jams the attacker for 20-30 secs first, so the attack maybe could say sorry.. and the attacked could then act apon that..
Anyway.. Its been put up many times, but CCP just dont care. Instead they go around now changing things out of the blue, for no good reasons, or at all telling us first so we can reply to it.
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Most tired of thing atm:
- Mods on the forum saying: "Please use the bug report page to submit bugs, the forum is not the place to post them." and then closing a topic. |
Parallax Error
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:39:00 -
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Well I never knew they changed the concord response for attacking a gang member, if they have then it's a pretty stupid change imho. If the problem is people spamming gang requests and ganking, sort that out... prevention being better than cure and all that.
The other thing this goes to show is that Concord really should've been programmed with enough intelligence to react according to the crime, instead of having a one setting terminate mode.
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Parallax Error
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Posted - 2004.08.07 14:39:00 -
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Well I never knew they changed the concord response for attacking a gang member, if they have then it's a pretty stupid change imho. If the problem is people spamming gang requests and ganking, sort that out... prevention being better than cure and all that.
The other thing this goes to show is that Concord really should've been programmed with enough intelligence to react according to the crime, instead of having a one setting terminate mode.
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NereSky
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Posted - 2004.08.07 15:12:00 -
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it'd be cool that, if you were in a gang with somone, and you get hit by a gang member not in your corp, a box pops up asking if you want to call Concord for assistance. a simple yes / no would help matters.
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NereSky
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Posted - 2004.08.07 15:12:00 -
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it'd be cool that, if you were in a gang with somone, and you get hit by a gang member not in your corp, a box pops up asking if you want to call Concord for assistance. a simple yes / no would help matters.
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Bonnie Parker
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Posted - 2004.08.07 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Bonnie Parker on 07/08/2004 15:51:01
Thank EVE's early griefers & "pirates" for todays insta-ganking Concord.
There was a time when Concord weren't so unrealistic when it came to punishing such minor offences... but as usual players used it to their advantage and exploited it by killing 1-week old newbs in starter systems.
Concord should only get involved if a players ship comes under sustained attack or recives significant damage/is destroyed... the odd smart bomb mis-fire or stray missile/torp etc shouldn't result in the loss of a 90m ISK ship imho.
Maybe some sort of fine would be more appropriate.
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Bonnie Parker
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Posted - 2004.08.07 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Bonnie Parker on 07/08/2004 15:51:01
Thank EVE's early griefers & "pirates" for todays insta-ganking Concord.
There was a time when Concord weren't so unrealistic when it came to punishing such minor offences... but as usual players used it to their advantage and exploited it by killing 1-week old newbs in starter systems.
Concord should only get involved if a players ship comes under sustained attack or recives significant damage/is destroyed... the odd smart bomb mis-fire or stray missile/torp etc shouldn't result in the loss of a 90m ISK ship imho.
Maybe some sort of fine would be more appropriate.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:28:00 -
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hows bout dis
no Concord or sec hit till the target hits 25%
and ta avoid people splitin to avoid it
if say Ship A takes victom to 30% and other guy knocks him past 25%
both are now seen as crminals and concord warps in a ganks them both
plus, can we have REASONABLE response
a 3 BS fleet ta wipe a crook in a frig aint justifable
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:28:00 -
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hows bout dis
no Concord or sec hit till the target hits 25%
and ta avoid people splitin to avoid it
if say Ship A takes victom to 30% and other guy knocks him past 25%
both are now seen as crminals and concord warps in a ganks them both
plus, can we have REASONABLE response
a 3 BS fleet ta wipe a crook in a frig aint justifable
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:36:00 -
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maybe you should ask olyyy for money
but im sorry for your lose m8
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.07 17:36:00 -
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maybe you should ask olyyy for money
but im sorry for your lose m8
Wanna fly with me?
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:37:00 -
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Welcome to how MMORPGs work. They promise allot and they frustrate you to the point where you go scr3w this. Almost lost another corpmate to some idiotic thing a few days ago. He is a little calmer after a few days.
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Fuse
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:37:00 -
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Welcome to how MMORPGs work. They promise allot and they frustrate you to the point where you go scr3w this. Almost lost another corpmate to some idiotic thing a few days ago. He is a little calmer after a few days.
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:40:00 -
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...(I always stayed within empire space for the missions, so no insurance was needed because it was "safe")
There's one of your problems right there.
Assumption is a ***** huh?
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Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader
Founding members of the Venal Alliance
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teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:40:00 -
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...(I always stayed within empire space for the missions, so no insurance was needed because it was "safe")
There's one of your problems right there.
Assumption is a ***** huh?
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Indefinately MIA
Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader
Founding members of the Venal Alliance
You'll Find Religion When I Find You |
sciw0lverine
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:45:00 -
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who's GM and why you talked to them?
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sciw0lverine
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Posted - 2004.08.07 19:45:00 -
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who's GM and why you talked to them?
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:19:00 -
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there are so many things wrong with this, where to start...
1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think)
2) mining in high sec in a BS, without insurance, is one thing, but have you never lost a ship on a mission, from lag, or mis-estimating how long it would take to warp away?
insurance is a good thing.
CCP needs to work on Documentation, big time
but in the situation in the initial post... is it right that you can be blown up for accidentally hitting a friend, in a non-harmful (in that case) way? no. but there really isn't a real good away around it, I don't think, that doesn't have worse problems than the one its solving.
Put SB's on higher numbered High slots.
Get Insurance if your going to be even remotely in any combat.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:19:00 -
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there are so many things wrong with this, where to start...
1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think)
2) mining in high sec in a BS, without insurance, is one thing, but have you never lost a ship on a mission, from lag, or mis-estimating how long it would take to warp away?
insurance is a good thing.
CCP needs to work on Documentation, big time
but in the situation in the initial post... is it right that you can be blown up for accidentally hitting a friend, in a non-harmful (in that case) way? no. but there really isn't a real good away around it, I don't think, that doesn't have worse problems than the one its solving.
Put SB's on higher numbered High slots.
Get Insurance if your going to be even remotely in any combat.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
~~William Blake |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
there are so many things wrong with this, where to start...
1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think)
Hah! so true, I used to use a caracal and never had a problem with agent missions, my armageddon happens to be complete overkill for these missions. but time = money
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.07 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
there are so many things wrong with this, where to start...
1) your in an armageddon, and you find level 3 missions hard solo? uhh... how? I'm in a thorax and I haven't seen a level 3 mission I couldn't handle.(though I haven't seen that multi-BS one... but thats an exception I think)
Hah! so true, I used to use a caracal and never had a problem with agent missions, my armageddon happens to be complete overkill for these missions. but time = money
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 01:51:00 -
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Please focus at the problam at hand, concord, im nto the only one here who has been ganked by them without good reason.
Wether I could/couldnt handle the npcs in an armageddon, wether I should fit the smartbomb on a low/high slots.
That has nothing to do with this.
This isnt about agentmissions, but about how concord reacts in these situations.
Any of you who have more ideas/solutions that might be a good idea?
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 01:51:00 -
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Please focus at the problam at hand, concord, im nto the only one here who has been ganked by them without good reason.
Wether I could/couldnt handle the npcs in an armageddon, wether I should fit the smartbomb on a low/high slots.
That has nothing to do with this.
This isnt about agentmissions, but about how concord reacts in these situations.
Any of you who have more ideas/solutions that might be a good idea?
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:34:00 -
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I went out in my first Cruiser a Thorax brand new just got it i was killing NPC by a gate in a .5 system i acidently locked a Concord ship and i was in a pod
this hapened when i had not even been playing 30 days
my first BS a Dom just rolled out of the Corp Production line i had been playing a good 3-4 months i was in a .5 system i decided to do some NPC hunting warped into a belt where 2 other ships was mining i killed the NPC my comp crashed i logged back in and was in a pod with concord in the belt i had no missiles (Dominex has no missile slots) no smartbomb's or the likes the petition peoble said i attacked another player the player i supposely attacked said i did not acording to he's logs and i said i did not acording to my logs yet i lost the dom and was told that what concord did was correct
its hapened to me several times i get mad i think its BS but what can i do i am adicted to EVE
truth of the matter is a simple little butten saying you need assistence yes/no would proberly solve this also getting locked down and fined if you attack sentry's and/or Concord in safe space would be better then the instagank you get now from them also letting Concord have intercepters do their scrambling for them (like the NPC rats) might give you a chance to make a run for it cause the way it is now Concord scrambles you and then kill you there is no fairness to it no thought
granted it was due to mOo this was done i still dont feel it was the right thing to do though
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:34:00 -
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I went out in my first Cruiser a Thorax brand new just got it i was killing NPC by a gate in a .5 system i acidently locked a Concord ship and i was in a pod
this hapened when i had not even been playing 30 days
my first BS a Dom just rolled out of the Corp Production line i had been playing a good 3-4 months i was in a .5 system i decided to do some NPC hunting warped into a belt where 2 other ships was mining i killed the NPC my comp crashed i logged back in and was in a pod with concord in the belt i had no missiles (Dominex has no missile slots) no smartbomb's or the likes the petition peoble said i attacked another player the player i supposely attacked said i did not acording to he's logs and i said i did not acording to my logs yet i lost the dom and was told that what concord did was correct
its hapened to me several times i get mad i think its BS but what can i do i am adicted to EVE
truth of the matter is a simple little butten saying you need assistence yes/no would proberly solve this also getting locked down and fined if you attack sentry's and/or Concord in safe space would be better then the instagank you get now from them also letting Concord have intercepters do their scrambling for them (like the NPC rats) might give you a chance to make a run for it cause the way it is now Concord scrambles you and then kill you there is no fairness to it no thought
granted it was due to mOo this was done i still dont feel it was the right thing to do though
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Lan2
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tristan
Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks.
Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
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Lan2
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Posted - 2004.08.08 02:45:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Tristan
Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks.
Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 09:37:00 -
[51]
Quote:
Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
Quote:
There's one of your problems right there.
Assumption is a ***** huh?
Quote:
best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks.
Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
Thank you Tristan/teh pR3acH3r/lan2, your replies are really interesting to read, not to mention verry helpfull as well.
But I agree with Parralax Error, If your in a gang or in the same corporation teamdamage should be allowed (or concord should ask if it was an error or not)
Sciw0lverine: I talked to GM Fate to assist me with this, he knows about the problems with concord.
It was hes idea to tell me and post here on the forums in the first place.
Drakxter: I share your vision, I will try to make the GMs look into this topic and maybe they whill realize they need to change something, but then again they could just ignore it..
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.08.08 09:37:00 -
[52]
Quote:
Smart Bomb + empire = Stupid
Quote:
There's one of your problems right there.
Assumption is a ***** huh?
Quote:
best quote I've seen on these forums in weeks.
Smart bombs in empire space are just asking for concord to kick your ass.
Thank you Tristan/teh pR3acH3r/lan2, your replies are really interesting to read, not to mention verry helpfull as well.
But I agree with Parralax Error, If your in a gang or in the same corporation teamdamage should be allowed (or concord should ask if it was an error or not)
Sciw0lverine: I talked to GM Fate to assist me with this, he knows about the problems with concord.
It was hes idea to tell me and post here on the forums in the first place.
Drakxter: I share your vision, I will try to make the GMs look into this topic and maybe they whill realize they need to change something, but then again they could just ignore it..
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.08 11:22:00 -
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And even without that. If I'm mining away happily and somebody comes along to steal my ore I want to be able to shoot his a55. Imagine that in real life somebody walks up to you and takes away your groceries from you, you punch him in the face, wouldn't you?
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.08.08 11:22:00 -
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And even without that. If I'm mining away happily and somebody comes along to steal my ore I want to be able to shoot his a55. Imagine that in real life somebody walks up to you and takes away your groceries from you, you punch him in the face, wouldn't you?
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MIsh4nTi
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Posted - 2004.08.08 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act because people were asking people to join gang and then gank them without any interferance from CONCORD. Imo if you join someone¦s gang then you are automatically saying that you trust him and telling CONCORD not to interfere but that¦s only my view.
good point but not all newer players know this so CONCORD will always interfere as it should be.
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MIsh4nTi
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Posted - 2004.08.08 12:44:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act because people were asking people to join gang and then gank them without any interferance from CONCORD. Imo if you join someone¦s gang then you are automatically saying that you trust him and telling CONCORD not to interfere but that¦s only my view.
good point but not all newer players know this so CONCORD will always interfere as it should be.
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response?
If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response?
If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
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IIVY
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Posted - 2004.08.08 14:18:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Terrapin
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response?
If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
its not stupid! just imagine all the newer players just starting and out of no where some pirate gang invites the rookie, gang warps to the rookie and bang!! he/she is dead, oh look another n00b to gang invite get my point?
there would be mass murdering in all 1.0 space and CONCORD wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about it.
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IIVY
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Posted - 2004.08.08 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Terrapin
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response?
If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
its not stupid! just imagine all the newer players just starting and out of no where some pirate gang invites the rookie, gang warps to the rookie and bang!! he/she is dead, oh look another n00b to gang invite get my point?
there would be mass murdering in all 1.0 space and CONCORD wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about it.
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: IIVY
Originally by: Terrapin
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response?
If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
its not stupid! just imagine all the newer players just starting and out of no where some pirate gang invites the rookie, gang warps to the rookie and bang!! he/she is dead, oh look another n00b to gang invite get my point?
there would be mass murdering in all 1.0 space and CONCORD wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about it.
Well.. I used to try out new setups on corp/gang members.
Although I see your point, I think CCP should have announced a change like this in the news section. If I'd gone out to 'spar' with a corp member and had my ship pulverized by Concord I'd be very displeased (to put it mildly).
And besides, like someone mentioned earlier, ganging up with someone means you trust them.
The original poster's incident was accidental, but what if during combat in empire space I fire a smartbomb or missile and do some splash damage to a gang member in the process.. do I deserve to have my ship blown up for that?
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 15:20:00 -
[62]
Originally by: IIVY
Originally by: Terrapin
Originally by: Dust Puppy
Afaik hitting gang members was classified as hostile act
Can someone confirm that attacking a gang member triggers a Concord response?
If so, that's pretty stupid imho. This didn't used to be the case, and I haven't seen any notice from CCP mentioning that this has changed.
its not stupid! just imagine all the newer players just starting and out of no where some pirate gang invites the rookie, gang warps to the rookie and bang!! he/she is dead, oh look another n00b to gang invite get my point?
there would be mass murdering in all 1.0 space and CONCORD wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about it.
Well.. I used to try out new setups on corp/gang members.
Although I see your point, I think CCP should have announced a change like this in the news section. If I'd gone out to 'spar' with a corp member and had my ship pulverized by Concord I'd be very displeased (to put it mildly).
And besides, like someone mentioned earlier, ganging up with someone means you trust them.
The original poster's incident was accidental, but what if during combat in empire space I fire a smartbomb or missile and do some splash damage to a gang member in the process.. do I deserve to have my ship blown up for that?
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaPsycho on 08/08/2004 16:17:02
Good points, but this has been in game for a couple of months now and last i knew there was no splash damage?
Also there is no way of CONCORD knowing the difference from Accidental or purposely done agression towards others.
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaPsycho on 08/08/2004 16:17:02
Good points, but this has been in game for a couple of months now and last i knew there was no splash damage?
Also there is no way of CONCORD knowing the difference from Accidental or purposely done agression towards others.
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:15:00 -
[65]
Quote:
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
i voted for this. GREAT IDEA!
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:15:00 -
[66]
Quote:
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
i voted for this. GREAT IDEA!
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:20:00 -
[67]
Quote:
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
actually this would give the agressor more time to kill you and warp out before you make your decision? no? the question is, if you get podded before making your decision will that cancel it out??
alot of things to think about.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:20:00 -
[68]
Quote:
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
actually this would give the agressor more time to kill you and warp out before you make your decision? no? the question is, if you get podded before making your decision will that cancel it out??
alot of things to think about.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:24:00 -
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not really related to topic but what i would like to see is prewarning about your security status before you jump into a system and get ganked by CONCORD.
they should give you the option to "yes" jump in or "no" i'm fine kthxbye?
i would still be piloting my Scorpion if they had that option 3 or 4 months ago
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.08 16:24:00 -
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not really related to topic but what i would like to see is prewarning about your security status before you jump into a system and get ganked by CONCORD.
they should give you the option to "yes" jump in or "no" i'm fine kthxbye?
i would still be piloting my Scorpion if they had that option 3 or 4 months ago
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:23:00 -
[71]
Originally by: OmegaTron
Quote:
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
actually this would give the agressor more time to kill you and warp out before you make your decision? no? the question is, if you get podded before making your decision will that cancel it out??
alot of things to think about.
Hmm.. you're right. How about this; if you haven't replied, they attack once your shields go down completely. That would offer sufficient protection and still leave Concord intervention optional.
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron
Quote:
Like NereSky suggested earlier it wouldn't be all that hard to make Concord's reaction optional. (And this wouldn't even have to apply just to gang members either.) When someone attacks you in empire space some Concord ships warp in and you get a nice pop-up message from the fleet commander saying "We've noticed suchandso has initiated an agressive act, would you like to have us intervene? Yes/no".
actually this would give the agressor more time to kill you and warp out before you make your decision? no? the question is, if you get podded before making your decision will that cancel it out??
alot of things to think about.
Hmm.. you're right. How about this; if you haven't replied, they attack once your shields go down completely. That would offer sufficient protection and still leave Concord intervention optional.
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Staci Stardust
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:50:00 -
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Let me make sure I have this straight. I will reword it some so that I make sure I have it down.
Hey CCP, I am an idiot and caused the destruction of my own ship!!!
Please protect me from myself!
Is that about right?
As for Concord, they are just fine. If they were weakened in any way, we would once more have empire ganking on a large scale.
The fact is, there are a portion of any players in a PvP game that aren't into PvP, they only like one sided gank fests.
This may be bacause they were beaten as children, or never got laid by anyone, much less any of the beautiful people, or they may just be horrible people, but whatever the reason games such as this, with certain zones that are supposed to be safe, must take steps to make these zones safe. For this reason uber NPC gank squards are created to enforce the rules.
In other words, NOTHING needs to change, except that YOU need to NOT ATTACK anyone in high sec space.
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Posted - 2004.08.08 17:50:00 -
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Let me make sure I have this straight. I will reword it some so that I make sure I have it down.
Hey CCP, I am an idiot and caused the destruction of my own ship!!!
Please protect me from myself!
Is that about right?
As for Concord, they are just fine. If they were weakened in any way, we would once more have empire ganking on a large scale.
The fact is, there are a portion of any players in a PvP game that aren't into PvP, they only like one sided gank fests.
This may be bacause they were beaten as children, or never got laid by anyone, much less any of the beautiful people, or they may just be horrible people, but whatever the reason games such as this, with certain zones that are supposed to be safe, must take steps to make these zones safe. For this reason uber NPC gank squards are created to enforce the rules.
In other words, NOTHING needs to change, except that YOU need to NOT ATTACK anyone in high sec space.
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IIVY
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Posted - 2004.08.08 19:17:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Staci Stardust
Let me make sure I have this straight. I will reword it some so that I make sure I have it down.
Hey CCP, I am an idiot and caused the destruction of my own ship!!!
Please protect me from myself!
Is that about right?
As for Concord, they are just fine. If they were weakened in any way, we would once more have empire ganking on a large scale.
The fact is, there are a portion of any players in a PvP game that aren't into PvP, they only like one sided gank fests.
This may be bacause they were beaten as children, or never got laid by anyone, much less any of the beautiful people, or they may just be horrible people, but whatever the reason games such as this, with certain zones that are supposed to be safe, must take steps to make these zones safe. For this reason uber NPC gank squards are created to enforce the rules.
In other words, NOTHING needs to change, except that YOU need to NOT ATTACK anyone in high sec space.
i think the topic is on accidental agression not purposely?
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IIVY
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Posted - 2004.08.08 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Staci Stardust
Let me make sure I have this straight. I will reword it some so that I make sure I have it down.
Hey CCP, I am an idiot and caused the destruction of my own ship!!!
Please protect me from myself!
Is that about right?
As for Concord, they are just fine. If they were weakened in any way, we would once more have empire ganking on a large scale.
The fact is, there are a portion of any players in a PvP game that aren't into PvP, they only like one sided gank fests.
This may be bacause they were beaten as children, or never got laid by anyone, much less any of the beautiful people, or they may just be horrible people, but whatever the reason games such as this, with certain zones that are supposed to be safe, must take steps to make these zones safe. For this reason uber NPC gank squards are created to enforce the rules.
In other words, NOTHING needs to change, except that YOU need to NOT ATTACK anyone in high sec space.
i think the topic is on accidental agression not purposely?
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MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.08.08 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky
it'd be cool that, if you were in a gang with somone, and you get hit by a gang member not in your corp, a box pops up asking if you want to call Concord for assistance. a simple yes / no would help matters.
Simple and effective.
Seconded.
MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.08.08 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky
it'd be cool that, if you were in a gang with somone, and you get hit by a gang member not in your corp, a box pops up asking if you want to call Concord for assistance. a simple yes / no would help matters.
Simple and effective.
Seconded.
MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:12:00 -
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CONCORD likes to pwn my haulers :s
atm its
Concord 3
Haulers 0
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:12:00 -
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CONCORD likes to pwn my haulers :s
atm its
Concord 3
Haulers 0
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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:43:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Gaius Kador
CONCORD likes to pwn my haulers :s
atm its
Concord 3
Haulers 0
LOLLLLOLLLOLLL
sorry Gaius, but it just puts a human face on a  
Vicarrah
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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:43:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Gaius Kador
CONCORD likes to pwn my haulers :s
atm its
Concord 3
Haulers 0
LOLLLLOLLLOLLL
sorry Gaius, but it just puts a human face on a
Vicarrah
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:54:00 -
[83]
Originally by: MrBinary
Originally by: NereSky
it'd be cool that, if you were in a gang with somone, and you get hit by a gang member not in your corp, a box pops up asking if you want to call Concord for assistance. a simple yes / no would help matters.
Simple and effective.
Seconded.
MrBinary
exploitable, like convoing ppl in battle.
I would prolly turn it off if i had the chance.
Fact is:
smartbombs, having your drones out while afk, and
using missiles in high sec empire systems are all things one should NOT do.
they all offer opportunities to get whaqcked by concord accidentally. Smartbombs go off and hit stuff, drones do their random attack thing while a neutral person is in the belt you were mining and missiles have ways of screwing with stuff you don't want to think about at all.
These 3 things are things you should have learned along with the main law in EVE: you NEVER use a BS anywhere while not insured, unless you've got loads of isk to replace it with already.
I have a dominix ive had for 6 months now, it's my ultimate backup for when i lose like all my isk and modules. I keep it in some out of the way spot im never at. I've insured it 100% twice now and havent used the damn ship with even once. the last thing you want is that your only BS gets screwed with while tis uninsured.
Sorry, little pity here
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Posted - 2004.08.08 23:54:00 -
[84]
Originally by: MrBinary
Originally by: NereSky
it'd be cool that, if you were in a gang with somone, and you get hit by a gang member not in your corp, a box pops up asking if you want to call Concord for assistance. a simple yes / no would help matters.
Simple and effective.
Seconded.
MrBinary
exploitable, like convoing ppl in battle.
I would prolly turn it off if i had the chance.
Fact is:
smartbombs, having your drones out while afk, and
using missiles in high sec empire systems are all things one should NOT do.
they all offer opportunities to get whaqcked by concord accidentally. Smartbombs go off and hit stuff, drones do their random attack thing while a neutral person is in the belt you were mining and missiles have ways of screwing with stuff you don't want to think about at all.
These 3 things are things you should have learned along with the main law in EVE: you NEVER use a BS anywhere while not insured, unless you've got loads of isk to replace it with already.
I have a dominix ive had for 6 months now, it's my ultimate backup for when i lose like all my isk and modules. I keep it in some out of the way spot im never at. I've insured it 100% twice now and havent used the damn ship with even once. the last thing you want is that your only BS gets screwed with while tis uninsured.
Sorry, little pity here
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.09 15:56:00 -
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I dont see the problem in haveing a butten pop up ingame in safe space saying this and this person did you Damege you need help yes/no
I belive 9 out of 10 cases are acidentel If Concord does not recive a answer they should just fine the crap out of the agresser (yeah i know this will make it possible to attack afk ships and "only" get fined for it)
this warning need only pop up if you are not at war etc etc and only in secure (.5+) space as it will be extremely anoying anywhere else
now of course Concord need to blow in the minute combat occurs and warp and weapon scramble the agresser this will stop them from killing the Noob and also only hold them for a short period
an alternative would be that if you got positive (or neutral) sec status you would be asumed that what you did was a mistake so Concord would just warp in scramble you for lets say 5 minutes and release you (you would still get the sec hit)
Thank You
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.09 15:56:00 -
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I dont see the problem in haveing a butten pop up ingame in safe space saying this and this person did you Damege you need help yes/no
I belive 9 out of 10 cases are acidentel If Concord does not recive a answer they should just fine the crap out of the agresser (yeah i know this will make it possible to attack afk ships and "only" get fined for it)
this warning need only pop up if you are not at war etc etc and only in secure (.5+) space as it will be extremely anoying anywhere else
now of course Concord need to blow in the minute combat occurs and warp and weapon scramble the agresser this will stop them from killing the Noob and also only hold them for a short period
an alternative would be that if you got positive (or neutral) sec status you would be asumed that what you did was a mistake so Concord would just warp in scramble you for lets say 5 minutes and release you (you would still get the sec hit)
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.08.09 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: BoBoZoBo on 09/08/2004 19:13:29
Here is an Idea:
Whenever there is aggression like this, concord shows up immediatly, warp and weapons jams everone on scene... and asks the following question to the "victim"
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"CONCORDs long range sensors have detected aggressive action taken against you, would you like to press charges against the offending party?
YES NO
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Yes - They get whacked
No - They get off the hook with a warning
Addendum.
Maybe after YES is selected, CONCORD takes the agression into account and deals the punishment accordingly.
Different degrees of offences require different pnishments.
If it was something like a minor damage amybe a fine or lein aainst equipment.
The more serious the offence or damage, the stiffer the fine... all the way up to ship destruction, maybe even death penalty!
There would even be offences that requred automatic judgment, but if it is something similar to the above situation, this would be a fun and effective solution to the Black and White attitude of CONCORD.
DOH! --- I see it,
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.08.09 19:11:00 -
[88]
Edited by: BoBoZoBo on 09/08/2004 19:13:29
Here is an Idea:
Whenever there is aggression like this, concord shows up immediatly, warp and weapons jams everone on scene... and asks the following question to the "victim"
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"CONCORDs long range sensors have detected aggressive action taken against you, would you like to press charges against the offending party?
YES NO
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Yes - They get whacked
No - They get off the hook with a warning
Addendum.
Maybe after YES is selected, CONCORD takes the agression into account and deals the punishment accordingly.
Different degrees of offences require different pnishments.
If it was something like a minor damage amybe a fine or lein aainst equipment.
The more serious the offence or damage, the stiffer the fine... all the way up to ship destruction, maybe even death penalty!
There would even be offences that requred automatic judgment, but if it is something similar to the above situation, this would be a fun and effective solution to the Black and White attitude of CONCORD.
DOH! --- I see it,
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Koolaide
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Posted - 2004.08.09 20:05:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Koolaide on 09/08/2004 20:07:21
I was flying in my BlackBird the other day, moving to a system where my corp mates were. I decided to preactivate my launchers, just incase the enemy happens to show up on scanner. While approaching one of the gates, I decided to pan my camera around. Just so happens my initial mouse click landed on the stargate.
Im gald I insured that ship.
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Koolaide
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Posted - 2004.08.09 20:05:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Koolaide on 09/08/2004 20:07:21
I was flying in my BlackBird the other day, moving to a system where my corp mates were. I decided to preactivate my launchers, just incase the enemy happens to show up on scanner. While approaching one of the gates, I decided to pan my camera around. Just so happens my initial mouse click landed on the stargate.
Im gald I insured that ship.
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