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Laura Baretta
Minmatar PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:00:00 -
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This war is not over.
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Dog Solitude
Minmatar Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:04:00 -
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<obligatory 300 comment. exclamation exclamation>
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RedSplat
Caldari Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:09:00 -
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Nice OP.
[i] Ransom List Project: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=999677&page=1 |

Zakhodit
Amarr AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Zakhodit on 23/02/2009 14:12:52 The battle of Troy was started after a fellow snogged someones wife.
Julius Cesar fell because Brutus, his friend, stabbed him in the back.
BOB fell because someone who had roles opted not to pay the bills.
Meta-Game tactics or no, this is the kind of thing that ruins empires in the real world. You can't cry foul just because you didn't manage to do it first. Because we all know if the shoe was on the other foot...
Quote: This war is not over.
No but the fat lady is cinching up her garters.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:18:00 -
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hi roy ---

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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:22:00 -
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Roy, you started out describing the lack of resistance and the destruction of Delve assets pretty acurately. But what's this crap about '7 Months to all conqurable space?'
Even if the goal was to conquer all of Eve, that's one whopper of a prediction. Uh...you kinda forgot to mention your Allies as well. Very bad form.
Remove your delusions about Winning Eve and your Cult of Personality references. Recognize that we are destroying the infrastructure and industrial might of TAFKAB, but that the pilots still exist.
Above all, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. There is nothing Inevitable about this war; we've still got alot of work to do.
-PJ
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RoyofCA
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Laura Baretta This war is not over.
Agreed. But I can mathmatically show you that it will be, and when. And who will win if the sov trends and tower count stay as they have been (it's us, fyi).
Originally by: Zakhodit Edited by: Zakhodit on 23/02/2009 14:12:52
BOB fell because someone who had roles opted not to pay the bills.
None of this is true.
Originally by: RedSplat Nice OP.
Thanks bro. "Those that live by the sword get shot by those who don't" |

Maltida
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Laura Baretta This war is not over.
Someone has to engage the aggressor for the war to begin otherwise it's just a ****~
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Alei Mulinitej
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:35:00 -
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one moe time
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Oran Sound
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:39:00 -
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Just as an aside, I gave up updating the towers. Its just not worth the effort. I just warp to moons in my dread and shoot whatever is there.
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RoyofCA
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi Roy, you started out describing the lack of resistance and the destruction of Delve assets pretty acurately. But what's this crap about '7 Months to all conqurable space?'
Even if the goal was to conquer all of Eve, that's one whopper of a prediction. Uh...you kinda forgot to mention your Allies as well. Very bad form.
Remove your delusions about Winning Eve and your Cult of Personality references. Recognize that we are destroying the infrastructure and industrial might of TAFKAB, but that the pilots still exist.
Above all, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. There is nothing Inevitable about this war; we've still got alot of work to do.
-PJ
I refuse to have a debate with someone named Princess Jodi, I'm sorry.
Also, you misquoted me and signed your post. "Those that live by the sword get shot by those who don't" |

James Duar
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:50:00 -
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We're not gonna conquer all of space. We're just periodically going to burn all of space to the ground.
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Orange Faeces
Minmatar THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:54:00 -
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this is epic. THE INTERNET. will never forget your epicness. you and Haargoth need to be awarded medals.
... oh ... role-playing?
you get nothing. sry. bye.
oF ---
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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:06:00 -
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I refuse to have a male escort from California in my fleets.
Did you spend extra time studying the roller-skating ***got from Reno 911 before you made your toon, or was it a self-portrait?
Looking forward to warping to zero on your Covert, then kicking you from the fleet.
Oh, and you still forgot your allies.
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Joe Goon
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Quantix
No simply because the whole space taking thing in Delve is based on someone causing the alliance holding space to loose all defences. The taking of delve has to be the wost case of exploiting game mechanics in a way they where not intended.
Let's lay it out simply since this still seems to be a common point of confusion for some reason.
An individual was given the rights to disband an alliance. Said individual chose to exercise that right.
That's all that happened. The wisdom of placing that power in the hands of someone, the betrayal of trust, the lack of foresight ... that's where the story is. The game mechanics worked exactly as they were intended, and all this could have been avoided if someone had thought things through before handing out the alliance off-switch to a bunch of people.
Anyway, I think it's time I flew a covops again.
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Mr Phail
Amarr Emo inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:24:00 -
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/golfclap
yes, yes, well done little goonie
you killed the greatest alliance in the game, through a tough battle against defensive game mechanics...
o wait...
you didnt
you just pressed the reset button, uberblobbed, then pos spammed Sov 1 systems
wow... you are amazing
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Max Khaos
Minmatar Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:39:00 -
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/me still waiting for Goonswarm to achieve anything 
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Dark Sidhe
Minmatar Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:46:00 -
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Hey I'll ve the first to admit that I'm no fan of Goonswarm but I have to concur with the OP's observations. Only the most jaded of Kenny fanboi can possibly believe that they can recover their space given the rate of destruction underway.
I've taken my own recon/cov ops ships through Delve within the first couple of days and it was like the California Gold Rush all over again. It was fun to see fleets belonging...to well everyone rushing down to moon grab, fight, pirate and make a killing in the local market. Though I think the mechanic that caused this is lame (I'm no friend of BoB either), the speed at which Goon and Co. moved all they had to Delve to go "all in" was impressive.
I keep hearing from Kenny and Friends that "its not over" or "its just begun." I have a hard time believing that Kenny and Co will keep more than a handful of systems by the time Goonies achieve Sov4.
The political landscape of EvE has shifted again, let the realignments, backstabbing and counterattacking begin! -------------------------------
"Back away from the Tatoo Ink" |

Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:50:00 -
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Hmmm how is this any different to last time? Other than some drama happening in goons land, even the posts are crappy like last time, maybe delve war III, IV or V will be successful?
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Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:51:00 -
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Just a couple of things.
First off, Roy, you're spot on, Ultima Online at downtime, the graveyard north of Brittania was the nuts, man, righteous combat for ten minutes.
Delve has been a little anti-climactic.
Everyone crying about unfair, some guy they trusted shut their alliance down is missing a big point.
Kengoku KEPT their sov claims. They had towers and mods all over Delve, they had titans and caps ready to go. Instead, they don't fight, and goons and, more importantly, goons awesome allies, lock down the system, and kill kfc pos. It isn't that kfc is losing fights, they aren't, because the only ones fighting are kfc pets, like minor impact and -a-. Bob refuses to undock. I guess they are all on sisi theorycrafting or something, but the fact of the matter is, their leadership is either stunned or scared into silence. Their mighty (?) capfleet is either being sold off or put into long term storage. They have decided on a strategy of "patience".
There is an old joke about a guy who breaks into a house, and tells the husband/father to keep his feet off the floor, while his gang robs the house and abuses the guys wife/daughter/family pet. The homeowner keeps laughing while his home and family are pillaged. Finally the burglar asks, what is so funny, and the homeowner says, "I've already put my foot on the floor three times!" He was patient.
Laugh it up KFC.
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FGxHalsey
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Bian
Originally by: Crimson Justice It's not PVP, its math. 100 pilots beat 10 pilots, 1000 pilots beat 100 pilots,
1 pilot in space beats 10 in station
Lee, I can't wait to see what your avatar looks like when we get to walk in stations.
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Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Brobuck
Delve has been a little anti-climactic.
Everyone crying about unfair, some guy they trusted shut their alliance down is missing a big point.
Kengoku KEPT their sov claims. They had towers and mods all over Delve, they had titans and caps ready to go.
Yes - please tell me how many cyno jammers they had. No, no, I insist, please tell me.
At least you are right about Delve being anti-climatic. Nothing "epic" or fun is happening, POS grinding is on the daily menu and thats hardly worth the 200 threads goons open every day about it. |

destinationZERO
Minmatar Pain Management Services
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:12:00 -
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nice troll.
NEEEEEEEEEEEXT
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Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Justice
Yes - please tell me how many cyno jammers they had. No, no, I insist, please tell me.
All you have to do to get sov back to 3 is go out and defend the towers. They had hundreds of pos, multiple titans, so many elite pvp'ers, and how many towers did they try to defend? None. When Bob came to Scalding Pass, goons were outnumbered and outgunned. Our allies came to help us, and we came out to fight. We didn't win all the fights, but we won enough to keep our space. Any alliance that turtles up with the mentality, "if we don't give them any fights, they will go away eventually" doesn't deserve any space.
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Max Khaos
Minmatar Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:18:00 -
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Quote: All you have to do to get sov back to 3 is go out and defend the towers. They had hundreds of pos, multiple titans, so many elite pvp'ers, and how many towers did they try to defend? None. When Bob came to Scalding Pass, goons were outnumbered and outgunned. Our allies came to help us, and we came out to fight. We didn't win all the fights, but we won enough to keep our space. Any alliance that turtles up with the mentality, "if we don't give them any fights, they will go away eventually" doesn't deserve any space.
Whiner Alert
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Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Max Khaos
Whiner Alert
No, no, don't misunderstand me. I'm equally happy if we kill them in a fight, or win a cultural victory, or they all get a nasty strain of chlamydia at the bbq and refuse to log back in. As long as they are dead, I'm happy. But don't forget, they could have at least tried to defend their space, and chose to hide in station instead.
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Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Brobuck
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Yes - please tell me how many cyno jammers they had. No, no, I insist, please tell me.
All you have to do to get sov back to 3 is go out and defend the towers. They had hundreds of pos, multiple titans, so many elite pvp'ers, and how many towers did they try to defend? None. When Bob came to Scalding Pass, goons were outnumbered and outgunned. Our allies came to help us, and we came out to fight. We didn't win all the fights, but we won enough to keep our space. Any alliance that turtles up with the mentality, "if we don't give them any fights, they will go away eventually" doesn't deserve any space.
You crack me up mate. 
Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK! |

Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Justice
You crack me up mate.  Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK!
How many elite pvp'ers does it take to beat a swarm of t1 frigates? Why not try something during BoB primetime? Why not plan something with your allies to at least show some courage, some bravery, some dedication to protecting your own assets? Better to live on your feet than die on your knees. Kengoku is going out with a sad, pathetic whimper.
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Predator Irl
Caldari Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Predator Irl on 23/02/2009 16:54:02 Edited by: Predator Irl on 23/02/2009 16:52:50
Originally by: Crimson Justice
You crack me up mate. 
Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK!
--- BECAUSE ITS THEIR SPACE!!! Who the **ck else is suppose to defend it if they don't see it worth losing their sh*t for?
I don't see how or why people keep coming back with this same lame argument. Anyone present in Delve knows that the "Omnipotent" BOB / Ken / Whatever they call themselves, have shown a pathetic resistance.
Truth be known, its their pets Exe, Minor Threat etc. that have had the balls to show up for a fight, win, lose or draw, not Kenny!
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Vashan Tar
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Vashan Tar on 23/02/2009 17:11:36
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Originally by: Brobuck
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Yes - please tell me how many cyno jammers they had. No, no, I insist, please tell me.
All you have to do to get sov back to 3 is go out and defend the towers. They had hundreds of pos, multiple titans, so many elite pvp'ers, and how many towers did they try to defend? None. When Bob came to Scalding Pass, goons were outnumbered and outgunned. Our allies came to help us, and we came out to fight. We didn't win all the fights, but we won enough to keep our space. Any alliance that turtles up with the mentality, "if we don't give them any fights, they will go away eventually" doesn't deserve any space.
You crack me up mate. 
Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK!
I keep looking at your alliance, UNL. Last time I checked we were brosefs :(, whats with the sand in the vagina or are you just another one of Jake Nobles most excellent spies?
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