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Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:06:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Brobuck
Originally by: Crimson Justice
You crack me up mate.  Why didn't BoB fought for 2-3 weeks every day in every timezone the 600-800 pilots in average the NC/Goons/PL are fielding? BOB, YOU SUCK!
How many elite pvp'ers does it take to beat a swarm of t1 frigates? Why not try something during BoB primetime? Why not plan something with your allies to at least show some courage, some bravery, some dedication to protecting your own assets? Better to live on your feet than die on your knees. Kengoku is going out with a sad, pathetic whimper.
First of all - I think we can drop the "goons, t1 frigs, lol - meme". Its outdated and to reminisce syndicate, but nothing else. The problem with BoB's primetime is that its also the primetime of RAWR, RZR and TCF. As I have said - the NAPtrain can field 23/7 a very large fleet.
I actually agree with you, that they should fight - not necessarily your "die on your feet" idea, but find a creative way to circumvent the hopeless lagfest slaughter and strike in a different fashion at least. |

Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:14:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Vashan Tar I keep looking at your alliance, UNL. Last time I checked we were brosefs, whats with the sand in the vagina or are you just another one of Jake Nobles most excellent spies?
I had no problem with Goons before the Haargoth accident and the propaganda war Goons started to convince every single one that beating BoB was an accomplishment, regardless if their alliance got disbanded and their defenses shut down or not.
Just because we're blue to each other, I don't have to like whatever you guys do. |

Lady Lard
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:15:00 -
[63]
Goons have no honour.
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:28:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Originally by: Vashan Tar I keep looking at your alliance, UNL. Last time I checked we were brosefs, whats with the sand in the vagina or are you just another one of Jake Nobles most excellent spies?
I had no problem with Goons before the Haargoth accident and the propaganda war Goons started to convince every single one that beating BoB was an accomplishment, regardless if their alliance got disbanded and their defenses shut down or not.
Just because we're blue to each other, I don't have to like whatever you guys do.
You're an idiot, if Kenny had the chance they would have nuked goonswarm off the map using a high level spy.
And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
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Wladeck
Gallente Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:34:00 -
[65]
Very nice  . .
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Kharnifex
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:40:00 -
[66]
"They don't have enough people to accomplish their goal."
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Kanoubi
Amarr Rytiri Lva R.U.R.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:06:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Montasque
You're an idiot, if Kenny had the chance they would have nuked goonswarm off the map using a high level spy.
And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Facts please. Since youre so well informed, care to in light us with real data? This is criminal offenses or you raising false accusations, also criminal offense.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:15:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 18:15:27
Originally by: Montasque And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Actually I have personal experience of goons doing at least 2 of those things themselves. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Nobody is perfect, least of all your side.
ISSUE - Bring back live events |

Alrar Manq
Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:17:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Alrar Manq on 23/02/2009 18:17:14
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 18:15:27
Originally by: Montasque And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Actually I have personal experience of goons doing at least 2 of those things themselves. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Nobody is perfect, least of all your side.
And I have personal experience with you doing 3 of those things. Glass houses indeed.
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Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:17:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Montasque You're an idiot, if Kenny had the chance they would have nuked goonswarm off the map using a high level spy.
And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Yes - judging by both goon performance on these forums as well as your associations (Haargoth), I have no doubt to mistrust anything you say or claim.
Let alone that goons: - made fun of the death of one of the GBC's members - constantly research players out-of-game and try to harass/embarass them with real-life information - have repeatedly said that their aim is to ruin EVE for everyone else - as proven yet again with that new "Goon FUN graphic"
Sorry, but you have zero credibility, so please return to your goon-talk, but don't try to bring fake arguments as if you try to have a serious discussion. Go back to spamming fofofofofo in local and enjoy YOUR game. |

Alrar Manq
Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:18:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Originally by: Montasque You're an idiot, if Kenny had the chance they would have nuked goonswarm off the map using a high level spy.
And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Yes - judging by both goon performance on these forums as well as your associations (Haargoth), I have no doubt to mistrust anything you say or claim.
Let alone that goons: - made fun of the death of one of the GBC's members - constantly research players out-of-game and try to harass/embarass them with real-life information - have repeatedly said that their aim is to ruin EVE for everyone else - as proven yet again with that new "Goon FUN graphic"
Sorry, but you have zero credibility, so please return to your goon-talk, but don't try to bring fake arguments as if you try to have a serious discussion. Go back to spamming fofofofofo in local and enjoy YOUR game.
NO HONOUR
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Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alrar Manq NO HONOUR
Indeed, my little goon. :D
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:21:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Alrar Manq Edited by: Alrar Manq on 23/02/2009 18:17:14
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 18:15:27
Originally by: Montasque And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Actually I have personal experience of goons doing at least 2 of those things themselves. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Nobody is perfect, least of all your side.
And I have personal experience with you doing 3 of those things. Glass houses indeed.
Quote:
But spymaster Mittani scoffed at calls for in-game morals, noting that without dirty tricks, GoonSwarm would have had no chance of toppling a more established corporation like BoB. He wrote: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
Says it all.
ISSUE - Bring back space bushido |

Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:35:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 18:15:27
Originally by: Montasque And fyi Kenny members have done a number of things not even we goons would ever do:
-Using dev's to cheat, creating bpo's and giving them advice on game mechanics. -Harassing enemy FC's over the phone, and threatening their loved ones. -Real life threats of violence, and intimidation tactics. -Attempting to get people fired from their jobs.
Actually I have personal experience of goons doing at least 2 of those things themselves. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Nobody is perfect, least of all your side.
Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts.
But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
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Crimson Justice
Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:37:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Montasque
Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts.
But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861
Here you go.
Oh noes, foot -> mouth.  |

Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:42:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Montasque Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts. But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
Sure, during the CSM election campaign goonies contacted 2 of my previous contract employers through the emails harvested from my online cv to inform them that I was moonlighting as an internet brothel keeper and prostitute.
Fortunately these guys saw the funny side and knew who the goons were from previous extra-curricular activities in the world of online gaming.
But taken serious that would be an attempt to get me fired and use real-world intimidation tactics to get me to drop out of the CSM race.
Obviously I couldn't petition about it formally since the goons in question didn't use their character names but the material sent and linked is still being used by goonswarm members on this very forum in trolling attempts through threads posted over the last few days.
Is that 100% proof? Nope of course, such proof is not obtainable without CIA internet wiretaps or bugging the computers of geeks in their parent's basements. Not practical and not worth the time to get wound up about.
So I just laughed about it with CCP and CSM in iceland and we just wrote it off as serious-business goons trying to fix an election.
Lucky for you guys I have a sense of humour and a profession that isn't biased against internet prostitutes and brothel keepers.
Take it or leave it. But you'll note I'm not the one boasting the BBC about my culture of telling lies about a video game. 
ISSUE - Bring back space bushido |

Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:43:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Originally by: Montasque
Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts.
But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861
Here you go.
Oh noes, foot -> mouth. 
And this is an example of what exactly?
Because to me it looks like you just linked a random caod thread.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:45:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Montasque
Originally by: Crimson Justice
Originally by: Montasque
Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts.
But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1004861
Here you go.
Oh noes, foot -> mouth. 
And this is an example of what exactly?
Because to me it looks like you just linked a random caod thread.
That thread is broken because of the moderation applied but at a guess I'd say it was where the goons tried linking my real name to a picture of a convincted child molester they posted.
ISSUE - Bring back space bushido |

Gilbert Drillerson
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:49:00 -
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RoyofCA, this was a very interesting read, thanks for that, I hope you keep it up :)
I also hope that all the usual drama queens can leave this thread and go **** somewhere else, it would be great to have atleast one quality discussion on CAOD.
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/0902/gs.gif Dont get mad - Get even |

Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:06:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson RoyofCA, this was a very interesting read, thanks for that, I hope you keep it up :)
I also hope that all the usual drama queens can leave this thread and go **** somewhere else, it would be great to have atleast one quality discussion on CAOD.
Probably worth having a word with your alliance mate then. He was the first one to stand hurling unsubstantiated accusations of murky misdeeds at BOB while standing inside the very fragile goonswarm glass house.
You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history to let you off that lightly. If you don't want to discuss scandal and misdeeds don't bring up the subject.
ISSUE - Bring back space bushido |

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:34:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson RoyofCA, this was a very interesting read, thanks for that, I hope you keep it up :)
I also hope that all the usual drama queens can leave this thread and go **** somewhere else, it would be great to have atleast one quality discussion on CAOD.
Probably worth having a word with your alliance mate then. He was the first one to stand hurling unsubstantiated accusations of murky misdeeds at BOB while standing inside the very fragile goonswarm glass house.
You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history to let you off that lightly. If you don't want to discuss scandal and misdeeds don't bring up the subject.
 Jade I have allrdy cought you in lying sevral times and you refuse to comment on it.. And now you goddam talk about seasoned eve players with an awareness of history??? You are a joke you lost all credibility.
I dont even know how you can take youself seriously..
btw I will stil keep reporting you for highjacking and trolling threads.. And if that wont work then ill start reporting you for " spelling way to correctly on these forums "
Seasoned eve players with an awareness of history  Im gonna quote you on that..
Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history
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welsh wizard
Caldari 0utbreak KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:36:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Zakhodit Edited by: Zakhodit on 23/02/2009 14:12:52 The battle of Troy was started after a fellow snogged someones wife.
The battle of Troy as we know it never happened, it's Greek mythology. :P --------------- RIP Crazy Horse |

Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:38:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 19:38:06
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood btw I will stil keep reporting you for highjacking and trolling threads..
If you can't debate em report em 
Classy.
ISSUE - Bring back space bushido |

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:41:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 23/02/2009 19:46:43
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 19:38:06
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood btw I will stil keep reporting you for highjacking and trolling threads..
If you can't debate em report em 
Classy.
I would love to debate you my sweet air spouting chick. However everytime I cought you in you own delusional lies you refuse to debate.. but then again how can I debate someone with an IQ of 45 allmost the same lenght of my pleasure stick to actually start debating..
Also to be serious for a sec.. You dont debate you troll and highjack treads..
Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history
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Godek
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:43:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Montasque Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts. But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
Sure, during the CSM election campaign goonies contacted 2 of my previous contract employers through the emails harvested from my online cv to inform them that I was moonlighting as an internet brothel keeper and prostitute.
Fortunately these guys saw the funny side and knew who the goons were from previous extra-curricular activities in the world of online gaming.
But taken serious that would be an attempt to get me fired and use real-world intimidation tactics to get me to drop out of the CSM race.
Obviously I couldn't petition about it formally since the goons in question didn't use their character names but the material sent and linked is still being used by goonswarm members on this very forum in trolling attempts through threads posted over the last few days.
Is that 100% proof? Nope of course, such proof is not obtainable without CIA internet wiretaps or bugging the computers of geeks in their parent's basements. Not practical and not worth the time to get wound up about.
So I just laughed about it with CCP and CSM in iceland and we just wrote it off as serious-business goons trying to fix an election.
Lucky for you guys I have a sense of humour and a profession that isn't biased against internet prostitutes and brothel keepers.
Take it or leave it. But you'll note I'm not the one boasting the BBC about my culture of telling lies about a video game. 
You are pretty full of yourself
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/02/2009 19:45:45
Originally by: Godek
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Montasque Please give me examples! Oh wait you dont have any! All your accusations are hearsay and rumor and are not substantiated by facts. But I would expect nothing less from a merchant of empty and weak rhetoric.
Sure, during the CSM election campaign goonies contacted 2 of my previous contract employers through the emails harvested from my online cv to inform them that I was moonlighting as an internet brothel keeper and prostitute.
Fortunately these guys saw the funny side and knew who the goons were from previous extra-curricular activities in the world of online gaming.
But taken serious that would be an attempt to get me fired and use real-world intimidation tactics to get me to drop out of the CSM race.
Obviously I couldn't petition about it formally since the goons in question didn't use their character names but the material sent and linked is still being used by goonswarm members on this very forum in trolling attempts through threads posted over the last few days.
Is that 100% proof? Nope of course, such proof is not obtainable without CIA internet wiretaps or bugging the computers of geeks in their parent's basements. Not practical and not worth the time to get wound up about.
So I just laughed about it with CCP and CSM in iceland and we just wrote it off as serious-business goons trying to fix an election.
Lucky for you guys I have a sense of humour and a profession that isn't biased against internet prostitutes and brothel keepers.
Take it or leave it. But you'll note I'm not the one boasting the BBC about my culture of telling lies about a video game. 
You are pretty full of yourself
So would you be if some internet spaceship goons tried their best to sabotage your internet spaceship election campaign with some real-life smear but failed either to embarrass you professionally OR influence the result 
There's failing and there's failing. And then there's this.
ISSUE - Bring back space bushido |

Snowden Vel
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi Roy, you started out describing the lack of resistance and the destruction of Delve assets pretty acurately. But what's this crap about '7 Months to all conqurable space?'
Even if the goal was to conquer all of Eve, that's one whopper of a prediction. Uh...you kinda forgot to mention your Allies as well. Very bad form.
Originally by: RoyofCA At current expansion rates, Goonswarm and allies will have consumed most of the south-western map in 4 months
A) He was presumably using projection to demonstrate the rate at which we're knocking down towers.
B) He did mention our allies, see the bolded portion of that quote.
Originally by: Seth Quantix
No simply because the whole space taking thing in Delve is based on someone causing the alliance holding space to loose all defences. The taking of delve has to be the wost case of exploiting game mechanics in a way they where not intended.
The best defense is pilots logging on and fighting. If TAKFAB is defenseless after we flipped off their sov, that would mean that they were simply a weak alliance propped up by sov mechanics. I'll give them slightly more credit than that, though. They did go down fighting, as witnessed by the first week of the invasion and the massive 500 vs. 500 slugfests in the W4 constellation. They fought, they lost, and they've been hiding ever since. Maybe they'll come back when Molle finds a new Avatar donor.
Also note that a week or two before the Delve invasion, BOB used a directorate spy to flip off GoonSwarm sov in DG-, and yet we successfully defended the system against a combined BOB and -A- assault.
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Generally Whingeypops
Gallente THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:52:00 -
[88]
Who'd have thought it? The madame of an internet spaceship brothel has got Lunas all all moaney, red-faced and puffing.
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Aida Ruiz
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:57:00 -
[89]
Originally by: RoyofCA Thus, the mass exodus of players coming back to Eve Online began, as did the final stage of the greatest PvP war ever.
Stopped reading here, do you even know what Exodus means? This sentence is terrible.
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Lunas Feelgood
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:57:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
So would you be if some internet spaceship goons tried their best to sabotage your internet spaceship election campaign with some real-life smear but failed either to embarrass you professionally OR influence the result 
There's failing and there's failing. And then there's this.
I really doubt thats true Jade. But if it is you must have some proof to backup you claims.. Becuase with you recent claims you lost all credibility..
However if it is true, you cant blame the hole goon community for a few ****heads criminal acts..
Its like if I would blame all air spouting, delusional gazbags for you horrible trolling post.. You see that wont work, all of BOBs leadership would never be able to post here again..
Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history
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