No. Accidentally firing off your smart bombs in a rookie system once is one thing. Apologize to the poor SOB and call it good. Doing it once a day or several times a day or month even by "mistake" you should get a punishment, which should help you pay more attention to what your doing. It is easy to call them accidents even though they may not be. Locking onto someone in a rookie system and firing without a even a scanner equipped is deliberate, with a scanner you COULD of meant to hit the scanner. Regardless you should be paying more attention to what your doing. Baiting and flipping is to deliberate to even discuss.

The rule has always been that nobody's protected outside of rookie systems. You're trying to deal with a problem that doesn't exist. The way that you're trying to deal with that problem will cause much bigger problems.

1) Smartbombs get you a Don't do Stupid Shit popup.

2) I'm trying to remove the ability to hide behind "accident" the first few times.

Oh it most certainly does exsist. The GM's already warned of possible expansion of what are called rookie systems if people begin to camp the gates to the rookie systems. Your solution does not work for that very reason. It is too defining for the needs
of the rookies. Some rookies are ready far faster than others. Your rule would lock them into being a rookie until they are not.
It is not flexible to the needs of the players or the game. That is why it is bad.

1) Smartbombs get you a Don't do Stupid Shit popup.

2) I'm trying to remove the ability to hide behind "accident" the first few times.

I believe you are trying to define the moment the rookies can be camped.
You hide it behind a thin veil of trying to do the right thing. In perfect EVE style.

I turned mine off.

The only people that are truly going to be affected by the rule is those that want to kill or grief everyone just because they can. Those who do it for profit aren't going to bother anyone that can immediately be seen as a rookie.

I believe you are trying to muddy the waters to be able to either abuse the rookie protections or abuse the uncertainty to shoot rookies.
You hide it behind a thin veil of trying to do the right thing. In perfect EVE style.


See, I can assign motives too. But while people have been calling me a rookie ganker for daring to suggest that the best and easiest way to protect rookies in rookie systems is to simply ban doing bad stuff in rookie systems, I have for the most part refrained from it.

Your right that would protect rookies. Along with everyone else that was in those systems.That is a problem too.

You can't turn off the Concord warning. It will *always* show up.

Yeah, of course. And your suggestion will result in them getting away with it several times more than mine (doubly so since the Rookie has to petition the loss, which won't always happen).

Let me tell you what I think is the easiest way to kill new players. Invite them to a fleet, when they accept, fly right up to him, or her and POW. One dead rookie. I could do this virtually all after noon, never have any risk, not miss a single one. Heck believe it or not I've actually done this in NPC 0.0 with success. The thing you need to ask yourself is why?

I think the rule works just fine. Just look at this thread, it's a testament to it's effectiveness.

Hey Ruby, how your night going?

Nice!