Well, it's not someone hauling around 25 Billion isk in assets.

Not trying to be rude here, but your either stupid, or playing stupid.

Well, it's not someone hauling around 25 Billion isk in assets. Not trying to be rude here, but your either stupid, or playing stupid. I mean that in the most sincere & respectful way. I just think your playing stupid, to try to make a point. I understand the point, and disagree, discretion needs to be exercised, period!!! If you think this is to difficult, I can't help ya. By the way Ruby, just so you know, there isn't a thing that is crystal clear in the land of EvE. It's all pretty murky. I disagree 100% with what you say, I give the GM's there leeway. I trust them completely in this area. They have the tools, and the methodology to find out when a rat is a rat.

In your opinion, I respect it. I just don't agree with it, "Respectfully". Further more if you can't actually make the distinction in what makes a new player carrying 25B isk in assets, not a rookie then your whole prospective, and position comes to me as highly in question. Just being honest here.

And there we have it. A perfect, 100% sensitive rule for protecting newbies. Calling Everyone in a newbie system a newbie is an acceptable result, since all we're asking for is a Concrete answer to "What constitutes a newbie, in a Newbie system." This is to avoid landmines. We don't like landmines; we like mines that have big blinking lights. If there's no way for you to clearly define a newbie to the public, then say EVERYONE is, and enforce that.

Hulk gets ganked; enforce it. 9 year old ibis gets ganked; enforce it. 2 day old ibis with a plex gets ganked; enforce it. Keep enforcement as regular as humanly possible so that it's crystal clear.
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Further more if you can't actually make the distinction in what makes a new player carrying 25B isk in assets, not a rookie then your whole prospective, and position comes to me as highly in question.

Further more if you can't actually make the distinction in what makes a new player carrying 25B isk in assets, not a rookie then your whole prospective, and position comes to me as highly in question. .

Right. Well doesn't it seem pretty obvious that a genuine rook wouldn't gave 25B Isk worth of anything. Hmm. How would a real beginner player lay his hands on that kind of scratch. Hmm . Man I honestly don't think you get this, really. I'd like to see someone live there lives with out a little discretion. I guess discretion and EvE just don't match up very well eh. I have my opinions, you have yours, we don't agree, let's just drop it .

Right. Well doesn't it seem pretty obvious that a genuine rook wouldn't gave 25B Isk worth of anything. Hmm. How would a real beginner player lay his hands on that kind of scratch.

Right. Well doesn't it seem pretty obvious that a genuine rook wouldn't gave 25B Isk worth of anything.

Man I honestly don't think you get this, really.

It's not at all outside the realm of possibility. Somewhat improbable, but a new player could very well luck their way into a poorly managed corporation with a substantial amount of assets. 25B could be attained as easily as someone failing to lockdown a high value blueprint or two.

I unlike you have no problem figuring this one out.

For that one, you could arguably say that he has managed to get himself into a corp and is now fair game since he'll be a valid target of wardecs anyway.

Naa, you r just good at speewing words all over the place to mask you personnel short comings.

But I feel pretty confident in my ability in identifying who's actually new, and who is pretending.

You've got to be kidding me. People still trying to figure out what is or is not a rookie?

The Gm has given you his answer, repeatedly. Now deal with it like a grown up.

Tippia your just of a mind set that your simply, (Under the guise of caring) trying to lean this to your specific agenda.

Think we could all agree that if a two day old player joined any player owned corp, that there kinda taking there training wheels off and throwing them away. LOL. Honestly wouldn't that be pretty obvious.

Pretty pathetic that a simple question that quickly get's answered can devolve into a 14 page saga of technicalities and smarm.

Others just want to be left alone so they dont have to keep reading law after law that outlaws walking backwards, down a sidewalk, with an icecream cone in their back pocket.