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Empress Aurora	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:26:00 - [61] Originally by: Chronos Chi /me strokes his evga geforce 295 /me wanders how long he can put off paying off his credit card Is it just me, or is this patch the same in that it only sees one gpu in the drop down? I have the BFG gtx 295 (well, I am playing on one anyway)
Br Lucian	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:26:00 - [62] Originally by: The Dribber Edited by: The Dribber on 10/03/2009 15:23:54 Edited by: The Dribber on 10/03/2009 15:22:13 Do i need more than 64mb of ram now??? EDIT! not rly! i can triple box premium client at full gfx on my rig :D Here ya go: Minimum System Requirements: * OS: Windows« XP / Vista * CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1 GHz * RAM: XP û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB * HD space: 6gig Free Space * Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection * Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers * Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers * DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=124
zombeee Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:26:00 - [63] Originally by: Meandar Hey guys... I'm a computer illiterate... will my geforce 2 card still work? I believe you need at least a GeForce FX / Geforce 6 for shader 2, so no.
Loyal Servant Caldari PURE Legion	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:26:00 - [64] From wikipedia here Some entry-level video cards supporting pixel shaders are considered affordable. As a result, replacing an unsupported card with a newer one is not only viable, but may also be more desirable than using workarounds. Get another card. There were AGP cards dirt cheap that would work. Probably a total of $30 + shipping? Newegg is your friend.
Vargrh Gallente Quasar Fleet	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:26:00 - [65] I have a Geforce 3 Ti 200 with 32MB. As I have no funds to upgrade I think I may very shortly be rage quiting.
EmpressShiva	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:27:00 - [66] Edited by: EmpressShiva on 10/03/2009 15:28:32 Originally by: Blonde TheBuilder by discontinuing SM1 CCP is probably killing many players with 5 accounts on crappy puters that do nothing but run macro miners anyway. Name one game today that will run on an 8 year old card that is still mainstream today! Considering that, CCP has gone above and beyond by supporting the classic client for as long as they did. I've seen computers at the gargabe dump that support SM2! Go cash your welfare check and buy a new video card. Counterstrike, teamfortress, infantry, quake 3, battlefield 1942 ..... another good mention is World of warcraft, 8 million players or something, yes?
Sollicen	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:27:00 - [67] Edited by: Sollicen on 10/03/2009 15:27:23 Vargrh, Can I have your stuff also?
Br Lucian	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:28:00 - [68] EVE graphics requirements: Posted above http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1018252&page=3#62
Bish Ounen Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:28:00 - [69] Originally by: Kelrift I guess there was mention of min. system requirements somewhere in advance of this patch THOUGH I NEVER SAW IT nor was warned ... I was under the assumtion that premuim lite would replace classic eve and not effect graphics for the low end Cards... HA HA jokes on me. I know I need to replace the Radon 9200 (yha it's super old) but was hoping to get buy for a couple more years. I dont think anyone gave it a second thought because all the newer machines come prebuilt with a 2.0 shader. but this 3 year old machine just has the requirments nessasarry, well HAD.... Anyways It should have Been POSTED BIG somewhere not in little tiny subprint ... I was all excited reading all i could and BLAMMMM no more eve ... Whats the Point of the LITE version again????? Kelrift Are you SERIOUS? How about: <- SIDEBAR, F.A.Q, System Requirements DUH!!!! ---- Fix the Wardec System!
DrugsDen	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:29:00 - [70] Edited by: DrugsDen on 10/03/2009 15:30:37 LOL EmpressShiva there not new games m8 there old hat tbh i had to go out and spend 500 pound to play the NEW games my very old pc played cs and them old games flat out

Vargrh Gallente Quasar Fleet	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:30:00 - [71] I might manage to get it working with my current set up.. stranger things have happened.
EmpressShiva	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:30:00 - [72] Originally by: DrugsDen LOL EmpressShiva there not new games m8 there old hat tbh Eve is old hat tbh. Whats your point?
Kimota	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:30:00 - [73] I'd like to point out that this isn't just a matter of buying a new card for Ç30 for anyone who's been running this on a laptop, such as me. I've only just started playing but I think I'm now going to have to stop, since I can't afford to pay Ç500 or more for a new system. And I'm reasonably certain that I'm not the only person who isn't hardcore enough about eve to not read the forums regularly. I for one haven't seen anything about this update axing support for low specs until yesterday.
Clair Bear Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:31:00 - [74] Ok, people. There is another solution. There are SM2.0 (and even sm3.0) emulation programs floating around the net to allow you to run things like Oblivion on a geforce2. Google away and have fun spending tens of hours to save begging for a free, obsolete graphics card which WILL run eve on craigslist or similar. I've recycled computers more than capable of the task years ago. If you get lucky someone will take pity and donate their ancient PC to you to avoid hauling it to a recycling center.
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:31:00 - [75] PCI video card that is cheep and avialble -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
isometricantaliac Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:31:00 - [76] People need to remember that although it is CCP's way forward to drop support for the lower end clients doing so is going to affect a lot of players & with the current $$$ issues around the world not many of those are going to be able to run out and spend $$$$ on a card to play a game they have already paid to play. I think CCP may be taking a big gamble in the dropping of the classic client for the re-launch of a retail version/expansion, & that it is very possible they may end up loosing more players than they gain with this new direction. I guess they have probably considered what they will be able to do if the dropping of the classic client causes the loss of too many paying accounts (won't say customers cause some have multiple accounts) & whether it would then be too late to get those players back is another thing. There are a few other space based Genre MMO's coming soon so maybe they will support the lower end cards.... If you wander around in 0.0 or Lowsec with no idea you WILL end up dead! and whinging about it on the forums will get u nowhere!
The Dribber Amarr Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:31:00 - [77] Edited by: The Dribber on 10/03/2009 15:33:48 Edited by: The Dribber on 10/03/2009 15:32:43 Originally by: Br Lucian Originally by: The Dribber Edited by: The Dribber on 10/03/2009 15:23:54 Edited by: The Dribber on 10/03/2009 15:22:13 Do i need more than 64mb of ram now??? EDIT! not rly! i can triple box premium client at full gfx on my rig :D Here ya go: Minimum System Requirements: * OS: Windows« XP / Vista * CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1 GHz * RAM: XP û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB * HD space: 6gig Free Space * Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection * Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers * Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers * DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=124 If that is indeed the specs for the new client, then thats bugger all. I have an 8 year old computer that is close to that (It only has 1gig HDD and the RAM was upgraded from 64mb to 1gig somewhere along the line), so unless your living in a cave there should be no complaints! O_o also, bout 4 or 5 years ago iirc a Geforce 6600 was about ú40~50 ------------------------ The DribbLer ...yes, I typo'd my own name...
brutorans Minmatar Young Enterprise	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:32:00 - [78] Originally by: Meandar Originally by: Tzar'rim You can't expect them to keep supporting ancient technology, even if you bought that card 5 years ago you must have found it in the rubbish bin. Hey guys... I'm a computer illiterate... will my geforce 2 card still work? i hope to hell and back your taking the ****, but if your not then no it wont. ATI do a good line in cheap cards that support AGP connections also the Nvidia 6 and 7 range of GeForce cards are ok. there not amazing but there cheaper than a 9900 and they fit in to an AGP slot on an onld mother board.
EmpressShiva	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:33:00 - [79] Originally by: RaTTuS PCI video card that is cheep and avialble lol. 40 pound.
Ichigo Prime	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:33:00 - [80] Originally by: EmpressShiva Counterstrike, teamfortress, infantry, quake 3, battlefield 1942 ..... another good mention is World of warcraft, 8 million players or something, yes? All of the initial FPS games you mentioned are as old as the hardware you're talking about. Simply because they have withstood the test of time well does not mean they are comparable to modern mainstream releases. I played Warcraft for several years and if Blizzard had released expansions like the ones CCP do, then I would probably have no reason to visit this board.

Minsc Gallente A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:33:00 - [81] Originally by: codex09 I think that with the dropping of the classic client CCP are also going to be dropping a lot of accounts from players that just don't have the money to have the latest machine or whatever. I am lucky in that at the very worst if things are nothing but laggy & 3 FPS I only have to put up with it for 20 days until the game time runs out then I will just go play something else (easy come easy go as far as I am concerned) It's the players that have multiple months left on their game time that can no longer play or even login to the game that I feel sorry for & am wondering whether they will be given their money back & their accounts cancelled or what. I wonder just how many players will no longer be able to play EVE after this patch & whether it will be enough to make CCP sit up and maybe reconsider the dropping of the lower end support. (It's not just lower end either, I found the classic client ran better/smoother when there was a lot going on around the grid & I know a lot of people that take part in the bigger fleet battles liked it for the same reason). Time moves on I guess and a new El-Cheapo GeFroce FX5 series card will only cost $30 or less.. It's just a shame....... Shader model 2.0 isn't the latest machine, it's a 5-year old machine. Hell you can buy a brand new pc for $2-300 that will easily run eve premium on max settings flawlessly. And as for players with multiple months left on their accounts, there's no excuse for not knowing, CCP has released Many news postings/dev blogs etc and even press releases which were covered on independant news sites. CCP is not responsible if people put blinders on and don't pay attention to widely available information. I also believe they had stated that only a very small percentage of the playerbase had cards that weren't capable of sm2.0 and of those an even smaller percentage would be unable or unwilling to upgrade if necessary, so the actual number of effected players will be fairly small and likely quickly replaced by the new players coming in with the new boxed version.
Meandar	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:34:00 - [82] Where can I find the new system requirements to include what graphics cards are needed?
Wormhole Inspector	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:34:00 - [83] Computer Cheapness There are plenty of video cards there for under 2 or 3 months of Eve time, take a 2 or 3 month break and then you can afford a video card. If you pay to play the game then you should be able to afford new equipment at some point. You expect a car to last you a lifetime? house? dog? cat? Too bad we can't download new ones of those eh? The fact that your even still playing on something that old is beyond me, get a new card, it'll be like a new game for you, twice! :P -SK
Lord Ryan Lord Ryan Productions	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Mondo Shiva What is the difference in eve between pixel shader 2 and 3? premium runs on 3
EmpressShiva	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:35:00 - [85] Edited by: EmpressShiva on 10/03/2009 15:35:40 Originally by: Ichigo Prime Originally by: EmpressShiva Counterstrike, teamfortress, infantry, quake 3, battlefield 1942 ..... another good mention is World of warcraft, 8 million players or something, yes? All of the initial FPS games you mentioned are as old as the hardware you're talking about. Simply because they have withstood the test of time well does not mean they are comparable to modern mainstream releases. I played Warcraft for several years and if Blizzard had released expansions like the ones CCP do, then I would probably have no reason to visit this board. No one said the games mentioned had to be new. It's obvious they're not SM4.0 games. edit: SM3.0 can run roughly double the instructions of SM2.0; its awfully slow compared sadly.
GoGo Rens	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:35:00 - [86] Looks like you will have to have a splash out and buy an upgrade , should cost you about ú10 to get a better card
Fist1 Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:35:00 - [87] Edited by: Fist1 on 10/03/2009 15:35:52 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133245 not the cheapest but not a budget breaker. and should last you quite a few years to come for eve. hell, you'll even be able to run it with max resolution and some of the cool effects turned on heh
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:36:00 - [88] Originally by: EmpressShiva ...another good mention is World of warcraft, 8 million players or something, yes? WoW will run on a Java-enabled toaster, TBH. (I just contributed nothing to this thread. ) Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Blonde TheBuilder	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:36:00 - [89] Originally by: EmpressShiva Edited by: EmpressShiva on 10/03/2009 15:28:32 Originally by: Blonde TheBuilder by discontinuing SM1 CCP is probably killing many players with 5 accounts on crappy puters that do nothing but run macro miners anyway. Name one game today that will run on an 8 year old card that is still mainstream today! Considering that, CCP has gone above and beyond by supporting the classic client for as long as they did. I've seen computers at the gargabe dump that support SM2! Go cash your welfare check and buy a new video card. Counterstrike, teamfortress, infantry, quake 3, battlefield 1942 ..... another good mention is World of warcraft, 8 million players or something, yes? If you would like to be left in the dust with those games then so be it. Go play them. By the way, counter strike Source, the newer one, has replaced the original for all but the poorest players. http://unity3d.com/webplayer/hwstats/pages/web-2008Q3-shadergen.html looks like about 2% of the people that play games use SM1 still. SM1 is the 8 track of computer gaming.
MajorMeatball	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:37:00 - [90] Originally by: Kelrift I guess there was mention of min. system requirements somewhere in advance of this patch THOUGH I NEVER SAW IT nor was warned ... I was under the assumtion that premuim lite would replace classic eve and not effect graphics for the low end Cards... HA HA jokes on me. I know I need to replace the Radon 9200 (yha it's super old) but was hoping to get buy for a couple more years. I dont think anyone gave it a second thought because all the newer machines come prebuilt with a 2.0 shader. but this 3 year old machine just has the requirments nessasarry, well HAD.... Anyways It should have Been POSTED BIG somewhere not in little tiny subprint ... I was all excited reading all i could and BLAMMMM no more eve ... Whats the Point of the LITE version again????? Sorry to hear you have outdated hardware, everyone who has any background in computers knows the minute you buy hardware its outdated the next day. It is an ongoing process like eating or going to work and paying taxes. If you are unable to afford the next gen or something compatible I suggest you find a different hobbie. Even my highend machine is outdated but I will be playing for a few more years hopefully. When and if my system does not meet the requirments to run a game, I will not point blame towards the game makers but only come to the conclusion I need to update or stop playing Meat



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