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Rebus Valstay Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:47:00 - [121] Originally by: Veritas Falx ...AGP List on Newegg... Oh. That Sapphire 3650 looks nice. That and a slightly beefed up PSU would take me out of the stone age. Granted, my computer will still run EvE with the new requirements without any upgrades just just barely. ;o
Daemon Christian	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:48:00 - [122] Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Originally by: Daemon Christian Edited by: Daemon Christian on 10/03/2009 15:41:06 It's fun to note all the sad folks here who can't afford new graphics cards get butchered by the spoiled little brats who can. Go get a job you say? I'm afraid that in some places, Iceland in particular, things just aren't that simple. Perhaps some of you should read the news? Anyway, I don't have a card with shadermodel2 either, though I knew about the changes. Was rather hoping I'd not have so many living expenses by the time this happened, but it looks like I'm going to have to let my account lapse for a while until things get better. I'll be back, though. EDIT: whoops, said shadermodel1 instead of 2. Well, a SM 2.0 card if not in a laptop is DIRT CHEAP these days, as are most cards based around SEVEN YEAR OLD tech. Even a single month of lapse should help boost your account enough to afford one. Well, for one thing, the problem is more than just the card. I have a very old rig. Also, I am currently unemployed and actively seeking employment. Also, I paid for EVE with GTC/PLEX through isk.
Fifenren	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:48:00 - [123] Edited by: Fifenren on 10/03/2009 15:49:41 Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Edited by: Ezekiel Sulastin on 10/03/2009 15:46:09 Originally by: Fifenren Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Originally by: Fifenren You don't have a right to complain about games not working if you're using a laptop, they are not meant for gaming, there are only a few laptops meant for gaming and they have integrated gpu's from either ATI or Nvidia with at least sm2.0. You're an idiot :D You're an ungrateful cheap *** who bought a laptop thinking it's for gaming. :D Actually, my laptop is four years old but can run even full premium (not WELL, but it can). The best part is, it's even expressly NOT for gaming - yay, NVIDIA Quadro card. You're an idiot who thinks that people shouldn't be upset that their laptops don't support old technology. I fully understand why they're irked at the new changes, as Eve was likely accessible because it DIDN'T require a rig capable of playing Crysis. Still, these days pretty much ANY value laptop can run SM 2.0 programs (because it's seven years old). LRN2PC. Wow, go read more, Laptops are not supported for Gaming and most laptops aren't created with Gaming in mind, if you Game on a laptop and run into problems, you have no right to complain. Stop twisting my words, nowhere did I say that a laptop can't game, I said they shouldn't be gaming.
Yayoi Tan FACTION Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:48:00 - [124] Well a fast list For Nivida Anything older then Geforce FX series will not run this game. For ATI anything older then ATI 9500 will not run the game ( Except: R300) For Intel anything older then 900 will not run the game. Then there is granted more companies making graphic cards but the list above should cover at least 99% of you guys out there. Pretty much if you have an comp newer then 5 years old you should be fine, Laptops could be a bit more trickier however.
Kimota	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:48:00 - [125] Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Edited by: Ezekiel Sulastin on 10/03/2009 15:46:09 Originally by: Fifenren Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Originally by: Fifenren You don't have a right to complain about games not working if you're using a laptop, they are not meant for gaming, there are only a few laptops meant for gaming and they have integrated gpu's from either ATI or Nvidia with at least sm2.0. You're an idiot :D You're an ungrateful cheap *** who bought a laptop thinking it's for gaming. :D Actually, my laptop is four years old but can run even full premium (not WELL, but it can). The best part is, it's even expressly NOT for gaming - yay, NVIDIA Quadro card. You're an idiot who thinks that people shouldn't be upset that their laptops don't support old technology. I fully understand why they're irked at the new changes, as Eve was likely accessible because it DIDN'T require a rig capable of playing Crysis. Still, these days pretty much ANY value laptop can run SM 2.0 programs (because it's seven years old). LRN2PC. Finally! Someone who's not just flaming people for being too cheap to spend hundreds of dollars/euros on a new system, and sees that some people may have been playing Eve precisely because it was accessible on a laptop. Well done that man.
MajorMeatball	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:48:00 - [126] Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Edited by: Ezekiel Sulastin on 10/03/2009 15:46:09 Originally by: Fifenren Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Originally by: Fifenren You don't have a right to complain about games not working if you're using a laptop, they are not meant for gaming, there are only a few laptops meant for gaming and they have integrated gpu's from either ATI or Nvidia with at least sm2.0. You're an idiot :D You're an ungrateful cheap *** who bought a laptop thinking it's for gaming. :D Actually, my laptop is four years old but can run even full premium (not WELL, but it can). The best part is, it's even expressly NOT for gaming - yay, NVIDIA Quadro card. You're an idiot who thinks that people shouldn't be upset that their laptops don't support old technology. I fully understand why they're irked at the new changes, as Eve was likely accessible because it DIDN'T require a rig capable of playing Crysis. Still, these days pretty much ANY value laptop can run SM 2.0 programs (because it's seven years old). LRN2PC. Crysis criples my machine, even with SLI. But I do run eve maxed out. Meat
marshal123 SpaceBalls Academy	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:48:00 - [127] I would recommend to any requiring a new graphics card they go to "RL SUPPLIES", they provide next day delivery up to 5 pm i believe for uk and are very competively priced. There is a phone number on there site and you can ask advice based on your machine and what card you would need to meet minimum specs for eve now. I have bought all my pc and accsessories from these people for the last couple of years now and never had an issue just google them ;-)
Illectroculus Defined	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:50:00 - [128] Originally by: Veritas Falx PCI Quote: Just to put the price in perspective, I went to newegg and selected graphics cards in the price range $10-$25 and every single one was SM2 capable, or better. Granted the only AGP card on the list was in that price range because it was an open box, but really the desktop PC users have nothing to worry about.
Amida Ta German Mining and Manufacture Corp.	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:50:00 - [129] Edited by: Amida Ta on 10/03/2009 15:50:17 If you need something new how about this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131082R 36$ and PCI, so even works with a 10-year old computer. And it even has SM4, so it will run for a few more years... _________________________ EveAI.Live - The EVE-Online API/class library for .Net, C# and VB.Net
Fifenren	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:53:00 - [130] Edited by: Fifenren on 10/03/2009 15:53:48 Edited by: Fifenren on 10/03/2009 15:53:06 Wow there is no telling the ignorant, you complain about your PC/Laptop/Card not running a game or having issues with one, yet your PC/Laptop/Card was made in the stone age, Technology is not gonna sit back and wait for you to upgrade. Also once again, go ask all the major Game developers and hardware manufacturers, they will tell you what I have said "Most laptops are not meant for gaming and they will not be supported on our game if you have problems, if your lappy runs the game fine then good for you but if you run into a problem, we don't care, get a desktop".

GambbiT	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:54:00 - [131] well i have Gforce 6600 and about 1GB ram and yeah the new eve will probably work when i rat and i am alone in the system , but when i gone want to pvp and will be more then 20-30 people then i will have a massive lag and that gone suck big time i dont have money to upgrade the computer soo for me this new eve premium its a bad thing
Xianthar STK Scientific The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:54:00 - [132] even my eeePC 901 netbook with GMA950 graphics supports SM2.0, runs eve fine, i wouldn't pvp with it but thats due it a 9" screen. but its a $400 pocket computer after all. -xian
Norian Lonark Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.10 15:56:00 - [133] This has got to be a joke..... right?
Korcahn Gallente Duncorp	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:00:00 - [134] EVE on an eeepc makes me /cry. Mmm...Radeon HD4870, how I love you.... ___________________________________
brinelan Caldari Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:00:00 - [135] Originally by: Norian Lonark This has got to be a joke..... right? You had to know this was coming when we saw the dev blog(s), login screen ad, the login screen message, and the forum sticky posts and threadnaughts over the last, what, 2 months? Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield.
Ichigo Prime	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:04:00 - [136] Originally by: EmpressShiva laptops work fine for gaming; my friends have been doing it for years. just make sure the laptop you buy has a videocard, just like a desktop. its not any different. This is completely misinformed... Laptops, even if the hardware is identical in name, is not identical physically. You'll notice the 'M' after the components, for mobility or whatever it is. Boards in laptops are (somewhat) less powerful than the equivilant boards in desktops. It is unavoidable.
Kaizer Douken Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:04:00 - [137] Originally by: Kelrift I guess there was mention of min. system requirements somewhere in advance of this patch THOUGH I NEVER SAW IT nor was warned ... I was under the assumtion that premuim lite would replace classic eve and not effect graphics for the low end Cards... HA HA jokes on me. I know I need to replace the Radon 9200 (yha it's super old) but was hoping to get buy for a couple more years. I dont think anyone gave it a second thought because all the newer machines come prebuilt with a 2.0 shader. but this 3 year old machine just has the requirments nessasarry, well HAD.... Anyways It should have Been POSTED BIG somewhere not in little tiny subprint ... I was all excited reading all i could and BLAMMMM no more eve ... Whats the Point of the LITE version again????? Kelrift The point. <-- It means you should have upgrade your computer long ago regardless what you're doing. DEV BLOG from Jan 13. <--- Almost 2 months in advance. If you only have PCI slots, get a GeForce 5200FX. I recommend getting a new motherboard (with integrated graphics), CPU, RAM, and Power Supply(one that has a 24pin connector) The integrated graphics now, are more powerful than a 9200 card. I myself had a 9250 PCI card a year ago, and upgraded what I said above. The games run similar in performance and I get shader model 3.0. Afterward I bought an 8800gt and that was the end of upgrading for me. Originally by: Imran Tam if your sausage looked anything like that, you should have checked the expiration date.
Imaos	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:04:00 - [138] Originally by: GambbiT well i have Gforce 6600 and about 1GB ram and yeah the new eve will probably work when i rat and i am alone in the system , but when i gone want to pvp and will be more then 20-30 people then i will have a massive lag and that gone suck big time i dont have money to upgrade the computer soo for me this new eve premium its a bad thing If you own a 6600 like my brother it isnt a problem. 6600 is a fine card and the toned down textures wont be a problem unless your harddrive is real slow and so loading the textures for ships will be slow. The other part of the lag wont be fixed with faster hardware. Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Xianthar STK Scientific The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:07:00 - [139] Originally by: Korcahn EVE on an eeepc makes me /cry. Mmm...Radeon HD4870, how I love you.... not my only computer m8 and not what i play on most of the time, but i travel a lot and its light and i can change skills on it.
GambbiT	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:10:00 - [140] Edited by: GambbiT on 10/03/2009 16:11:56 Originally by: Imaos Originally by: GambbiT well i have Gforce 6600 and about 1GB ram and yeah the new eve will probably work when i rat and i am alone in the system , but when i gone want to pvp and will be more then 20-30 people then i will have a massive lag and that gone suck big time i dont have money to upgrade the computer soo for me this new eve premium its a bad thing If you own a 6600 like my brother it isnt a problem. 6600 is a fine card and the toned down textures wont be a problem unless your harddrive is real slow and so loading the textures for ships will be slow. The other part of the lag wont be fixed with faster hardware. Imaos thx for that probabbly in 1-2 mouth i will have th money for a new computer i hope but right now i have problem downloding the patch it keep saying something about downloading problems and it tells me to retry, uu and i love the download speed , i think by tommorow i will be able to play

Kaizer Douken Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:11:00 - [141] Originally by: Xianthar Originally by: Korcahn EVE on an eeepc makes me /cry. Mmm...Radeon HD4870, how I love you.... not my only computer m8 and not what i play on most of the time, but i travel a lot and its light and i can change skills on it. eePCs with these graphics should be available by the end of the year. Originally by: Imran Tam if your sausage looked anything like that, you should have checked the expiration date.
Lombax	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:14:00 - [142] Originally by: Kelrift I guess there was mention of min. system requirements somewhere in advance of this patch THOUGH I NEVER SAW IT nor was warned ... I was under the assumtion that premuim lite would replace classic eve and not effect graphics for the low end Cards... HA HA jokes on me. I know I need to replace the Radon 9200 (yha it's super old) but was hoping to get buy for a couple more years. I dont think anyone gave it a second thought because all the newer machines come prebuilt with a 2.0 shader. but this 3 year old machine just has the requirments nessasarry, well HAD.... Anyways It should have Been POSTED BIG somewhere not in little tiny subprint ... I was all excited reading all i could and BLAMMMM no more eve ... Whats the Point of the LITE version again????? Kelrift If you would have followed the Alliance Tournament videos and listened to what the developers had to say, you would have known this. :)
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:22:00 - [143] I like the People with 3 accounts yet, they can't afford a new GFX card.
Xianthar STK Scientific The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.03.10 16:30:00 - [144] Originally by: Kaizer Douken Originally by: Xianthar Originally by: Korcahn EVE on an eeepc makes me /cry. Mmm...Radeon HD4870, how I love you.... not my only computer m8 and not what i play on most of the time, but i travel a lot and its light and i can change skills on it. eePCs with these graphics should be available by the end of the year. performance isn't really the hindrance, its the screen space..


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