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Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1047
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:17:00 -
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really CCP?
When I got the lockout message I thought it would be packed in there, then when I manage to get in it's at 1860 pop
lowering jita's pop cap?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1306
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:20:00 -
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Morganta wrote:really CCP?
When I got the lockout message I thought it would be packed in there, then when I manage to get in it's at 1860 pop
lowering jita's pop cap?
I can think of a few reasons for this.
Jita's population is usually parked in a station for the most part. And there is not usually so much firing of weapons in Jita. This has to add significantly to the server load.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
220
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:20:00 -
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We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Hicksimus
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
99
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:28:00 -
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Oh come on I thought it was pretty funny the last time one of the hamsters spontaneously combusted, pump it up to 4000! This IS Inferno after all.
Edit: well, at least the escalation, pump it up to 4000 and you can release Inferno early....
Things I have realized from the EvE forums:
Many people beleive cost means money and only money |
ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii
Rogue Elements.
618
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:31:00 -
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Let's see those hamsters sweat 
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
Velicitia
Open Designs
887
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:38:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that.
let the node burn! (well, not really ... but it is "burn Jita" and all)
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adam smash
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:40:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that.
What happened to HUGE fleet battles blah blah all your promo **** about 1 world... no instances.
Capping the system = instance.
Lowering the cap... is just epic lulz. |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:43:00 -
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CCP Goliath, don't suppose will get a nice dev blog giving the metrics from the server for Burn Jita once it's all done and dusted?
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Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:44:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that.
isnt that what tidi is for... gracreful degradation of the service
i dont see our fleet fights in 0.0 being locked at 1850
lame excuse |
Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:45:00 -
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adam smash wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that. What happened to HUGE fleet battles blah blah all your promo **** about 1 world... no instances. Capping the system = instance. Lowering the cap... is just epic lulz.
You don't really know what an instance is, do you? |
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
261
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:47:00 -
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When the cap has been reached Eve gives you the option to SPAWN in an alternative system.
USE IT.
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Zaxix
Gods of Freight
The Toy Box
76
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:49:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there.
Does Jita still do like in the old days and give me the option to be moved to another system? If not, why not?
Red Frog--Hisec Courier
Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii
Rogue Elements.
619
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:52:00 -
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Hang on, hang on, I heard a CCP source say they have a beefed-up node running Jita purely for the event. DualHamster technology or something. Why aren't you using it to its potential?
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
230
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:54:00 -
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Midge Mo'yb wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that. isnt that what tidi is for... gracreful degradation of the service i dont see our fleet fights in 0.0 being locked at 1850 lame excuse
You just aren't considering all of the angles. TiDi helps, but consider that the pop cap was 1028 when it was first introduced in 2008, was 1500 during the Jita riots of last year, and has now risen considerably (and is constantly being altered as things spike or smooth out). Jita, and high sec systems in general, are far more complex in terms of load than nullsec systems.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
230
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:54:00 -
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Thomas Kreshant wrote:CCP Goliath, don't suppose will get a nice dev blog giving the metrics from the server for Burn Jita once it's all done and dusted?
Oh I'm sure Veritas and Diagoras will be cooking up some graphgasms for you all to enjoy :)
CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
234
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:55:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Hang on, hang on, I heard a CCP source say they have a beefed-up node running Jita purely for the event. DualHamster technology or something. Why aren't you using it to its potential?
The tech behind this is pretty serious, but as I have said above, high sec and nullsec are incomparable in terms of server load and today you can see massive improvements in terms of capacity over the Jita of last year.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Perramas
Pan Caldarian Ventures
47
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:56:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. Does Jita still do like in the old days and give me the option to be moved to another system? If not, why not?
Yes there is the option to move to a neighboring system. I just tested it with my my Jita price check alt and I had the option to move to seven or so other systems. |
Zaxix
Gods of Freight
The Toy Box
76
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:57:00 -
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Perramas wrote:Zaxix wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. Does Jita still do like in the old days and give me the option to be moved to another system? If not, why not? Yes there is the option to move to a neighboring system. I just tested it with my my Jita price check alt and I had the option to move to seven or so other systems.
excellent thank you for checking
Red Frog--Hisec Courier
Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:59:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that. isnt that what tidi is for... gracreful degradation of the service i dont see our fleet fights in 0.0 being locked at 1850 lame excuse You just aren't considering all of the angles. TiDi helps, but consider that the pop cap was 1028 when it was first introduced in 2008, was 1500 during the Jita riots of last year, and has now risen considerably (and is constantly being altered as things spike or smooth out). Jita, and high sec systems in general, are far more complex in terms of load than nullsec systems.
the limits were introduced when the servers didnt degrade gracefully, i fail to see how this is any different to massive fight of nullsec - when we have to just deall with it when we hit the limits
the server seems quite content at the limit, that imo says that the limit is too low.
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1051
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:59:00 -
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Miilla wrote:When the cap has been reached Eve gives you the option to SPAWN in an alternative system.
USE IT.
that's hardly the point, do try and keep up blondie
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
231
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:03:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that.
Yesterday Jita was at 2100 with a complete war going off at 4-4. The highest I seen TiDi was at 40% (btw, whoever though of TiDi is a genius.) I had no lag at all, managed to play "tag" with WTs and solo a few things. And to quote from this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant
Jon Lander wrote: Whatever happens, increased activity in the Jita area is guaranteed - and CCP has prepared for it by switching servers around. "The great thing was we had some fair warning," Lander said. "We've got some seriously grown up server kit. Where we know there's going to be some really big, epic stuff happening, we can put it on this kit.
"We've said, okay, stick Jita on the big, scary server, and put all the surrounding systems on these other servers." apologies if I don't believe that excuse..
'twas the night before Jitageddon and all through 4-4. Not a freighter was undocked, not even the transports. Outside the undock was Goonswarm, floating with care. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
236
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:05:00 -
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Midge Mo'yb wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that. isnt that what tidi is for... gracreful degradation of the service i dont see our fleet fights in 0.0 being locked at 1850 lame excuse You just aren't considering all of the angles. TiDi helps, but consider that the pop cap was 1028 when it was first introduced in 2008, was 1500 during the Jita riots of last year, and has now risen considerably (and is constantly being altered as things spike or smooth out). Jita, and high sec systems in general, are far more complex in terms of load than nullsec systems. the limits were introduced when the servers didnt degrade gracefully, i fail to see how this is any different to massive fight of nullsec - when we have to just deall with it when we hit the limits the server seems quite content at the limit, that imo says that the limit is too low.
Due respect, but you don't have any information at hand except anecdotal, and I have the server technical information open on a page in front of me, as do people far more well versed in these matters who actually control the cap, so while you are entitled to your opinion, in this case it is inapplicable.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
416
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:06:00 -
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adam smash wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that. What happened to HUGE fleet battles blah blah all your promo **** about 1 world... no instances. Capping the system = instance. Lowering the cap... is just epic lulz.
I think it's time for your ritalin Tracy, you really are talking gibberish right now. Maybe it's past your bed time and you're just a cranky little turnip. Tell mummy to make you some hot milk and be quite while the adults are talking.
Bad monkey, no banana.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Zaxix
Gods of Freight
The Toy Box
77
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:10:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Midge Mo'yb wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that. isnt that what tidi is for... gracreful degradation of the service i dont see our fleet fights in 0.0 being locked at 1850 lame excuse You just aren't considering all of the angles. TiDi helps, but consider that the pop cap was 1028 when it was first introduced in 2008, was 1500 during the Jita riots of last year, and has now risen considerably (and is constantly being altered as things spike or smooth out). Jita, and high sec systems in general, are far more complex in terms of load than nullsec systems. the limits were introduced when the servers didnt degrade gracefully, i fail to see how this is any different to massive fight of nullsec - when we have to just deall with it when we hit the limits the server seems quite content at the limit, that imo says that the limit is too low. Due respect, but you don't have any information at hand except anecdotal, and I have the server technical information open on a page in front of me, as do people far more well versed in these matters who actually control the cap, so while you are entitled to your opinion, in this case it is inapplicable.
If I may be so bold, don't feed the trolls.
Red Frog--Hisec Courier
Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
261
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:13:00 -
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You have all the entire Eve universe and you are crying about Jita. Seriously.
If you really want to see jita.. go here http://www.twitch.tv/daopa |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:14:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:We raise and lower the cap based on technological factors - if the system is getting hammered repeatedly, sometimes it has to be lowered to ensure performance. Simple as that.
lowering it to keep the damage as low as possible imo
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Disdaine
254
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:14:00 -
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Goonies are griefin CCP now? |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:18:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Goonies are griefin CCP now?
I think its the other way around. if its arounsd 2k the goona may me the only ones in there
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:18:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:If I may be so bold, don't feed the trolls.
how is this a troll, ive been sat in jita for 3-4 hours now, the system seems to be handing the load perfectly well, i dont have pretty performance graphs and stats to look at so i have to judge from what is available - the responsiveness of the game.
which is perfectly fine - hence i see no reason for the cap as it currently is...and as someone stated the cap was higher yesterday
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6319
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:18:00 -
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adam smash wrote:Capping the system = instance. Unless they spawn a new Jita for people who can't get into the first oneGǪ no.
in fact, if anything, the opposite is true:
Population cap = limit to how many can use a location.
Instance = no population cap, just direct people to new instance.
Midge Mo'yb wrote:how is this a troll, ive been sat in jita for 3-4 hours now, the system seems to be handing the load perfectly well Sitting in station, or flying in space?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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