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Vincent Athen
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:23:00 -
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From the patch notes:
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* Changes have been made to the collision mechanics in the physics simulation. Massive objects will be less affected when bumped by smaller objects.
The changes they made to the collision mechanics seem to have worked as stated in the patch notes. Smaller ships now bump larger ones less.
However, there seems to have been an unintended side effect of this change: capitals bump each other massive distances at high velocities.
When does this occur?
- Fleet warping from one location to another.
- Jumping to a cynosural field.
- Undocking.
As far as I can tell, this is the result of having collision activated while clipped into another object, which then ejects the objects away from each other. This happened before the collision mechanics change, but has become much more extreme since then.
Here's an example of a capital bump:
The two selected dreadnoughts were fleet warped to the same location as me in a small group of capitals, and were bumped the huge distances pictured above. Gang warping, jumping together, or even undocking two capital ships at the same time all carry a significant chance for these bumps, which can send a normally very slow ship massive distances, rendering them unable to warp for upwards of several minutes, and also possibly spreading edges of a fleet past the hard coded lock range limit of 250km (if two people are bumped in opposite directions and each travel ~150km as pictured above). The current mechanics available to move capitals around as a fleet are almost unusable because of these bumps.
This needs to change, and it needs to change fast. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:35:00 -
[2]
If it's that massive an effect, I agree totally.
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Autopilot Engaged
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:37:00 -
[3]
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Grann Thefauto
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:39:00 -
[4]
Thats insane. Looks like fun though actually.
You should probably report this as a bug if you haven't already.
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Tenshiin
Duragon Pioneer Group
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:42:00 -
[5]
This is a massive issue. Fix it.
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Gramtar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:55:00 -
[6]
To add to the original post, while registering my support:
We tried various techniques to minimize bumping last night, including limiting the number of capitals warping to a specific 10km distance interval to as low as 3-5. The problem is minimized when doing this and when all ships arrive on grid at the same time. Bumping occurs, and it's worse than pre-Apocrypha, but seemed somewhat manageable. When just one ship warps in late to the same location, the remainder fly like bowling pins. Something is seriously screwed up in the mass / inertia calculations here.
With only 20 capitals warping to the same point, my estimate is at least 1/5 will consistently be bumped large distances (50 km or more). In larger capital fleets, the bumping frequency will likely be even more pronounced.
Clearly, this is not working as intended, and CCP should begin working on a resolution immediately. I hope they acknowledge the issue, and offer to reimburse capitals lost due to long range bumps in the interim.
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Kurik Chryllos
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:57:00 -
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EdFromHumanResources
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:57:00 -
[8]
Edited by: EdFromHumanResources on 13/03/2009 23:59:59
Motherships can very easily bump caps offgrid. 500+ km away simply by warping in at the same point or cynoing into the same beacon
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Everyone hates goonswarm for one reason or another. ... And they promote ***gotism -Zurrar
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Vx15i
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:59:00 -
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:20:00 -
[10]
Definitely valid concerns that need to be addressed
I also want to say that I am disappointed with the bumping nerf mechanics for smaller ships. Bumping, while unnatural, offers very interesting tactical situations. Bumping a carrier out of dock range with battleships and HACs used to be pretty fun and balanced.
This is one of those cases where we shouldn't make the game more realistic, instead favor the fun factor. Strong bumping mechanics add an extra dimension to combat, making smaller ships more valuable against larger ones.
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Snowden Vel
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:31:00 -
[11]
The patch definitely broke the hell out of bumping and it needs to be fixed to preserve normal capship combat and operations.
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The Slayer
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:42:00 -
[12]
I support this unless they bring back pos bowling, then keep it in pls
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Tar'an Tula
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:43:00 -
[13]
this is a huge problem. supporting this issue.
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OldPueblo
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:46:00 -
[14]
Totally broke.
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BonzaiDNA
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:53:00 -
[15]
No.... its cool. I love trying to shoot pos anywhere from 20km to 130km from my original warp in. It adds a whole new level of wtf to the complexity of this game. |
Virtuoso DeToure
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 01:09:00 -
[16]
I can't imagine what is happening now was an intended design decision by CCP.
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Jamin Berry
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 01:10:00 -
[17]
Ridiculous.
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Davor
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 01:12:00 -
[18]
Definitely supporting this.
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Sovereign533
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.03.14 01:23:00 -
[19]
oh god, they didn't...
*Your signature file has been removed for the inclusion of inappropriate language. -- Fallout 3 |
Korerin Mayul
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Posted - 2009.03.14 01:27:00 -
[20]
this one is going to be a massive nightmare to fix... i suggest - make big ships squidgey, problem solved :D
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Professor Dumbledore
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:06:00 -
[21]
fix it
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Kelly Smith
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:07:00 -
[22]
yes
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sally bestonge3
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:09:00 -
[23]
fix this issue
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Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:09:00 -
[24]
fix the issue
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dena chan
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:10:00 -
[25]
fixu
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Daac Iomen
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:16:00 -
[26]
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dena chan2
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:30:00 -
[27]
yes please
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Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:32:00 -
[28]
yes
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sally bestonge4
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:38:00 -
[29]
please fix it
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sally bestonge2
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:40:00 -
[30]
supporintg
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Vickey Rockwell
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:52:00 -
[31]
supporting
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vickey rockwell2
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:54:00 -
[32]
yes
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vickey rockwell3
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Posted - 2009.03.14 02:58:00 -
[33]
supporting
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Telender
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:37:00 -
[34]
My freighter got bumped 50 KM from a station by another freighter as I was undocking. This is absurd.
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Shodai
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:39:00 -
[35]
supporting this |
David Corbett
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:45:00 -
[36]
It really is crazy.
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Rotnac
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:45:00 -
[37]
Yup, desperately needs fixing.
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William Romeo
Caldari
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:46:00 -
[38]
fix this
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Retheon
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:47:00 -
[39]
This really needs fixing - a physics engine oops, I guess.
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Slovaken Silvendar
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:48:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Slovaken Silvendar on 14/03/2009 03:48:39
Yeah, this is clearly an unintended consequence of what was otherwise a good change. Fix please?
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thatboydc
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:49:00 -
[41]
Supporting this, fix the bug!
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:49:00 -
[42]
Signed.
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Esplin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:50:00 -
[43]
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Zxxs Trxyzptlk
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:52:00 -
[44]
That's absurd. Supported.
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Thomina Yorke
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:52:00 -
[45]
agree
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OH GOD
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:53:00 -
[46]
agree
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Octavius Five
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:53:00 -
[47]
welp
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Vladimir Antlerkov
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:53:00 -
[48]
Supporting.
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MacGrinder
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:55:00 -
[49]
yes
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BraveLittleDildo
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:56:00 -
[50]
i endorse this product and/or service
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Parapolizei
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:07:00 -
[51]
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Anela Cistine
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:08:00 -
[52]
While hilarious, this seems pretty broken right now. Fix please.
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myrtarous
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:08:00 -
[53]
my poor chimera wasn't meant to go 3km/s
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Corsa Grane
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:13:00 -
[54]
fix and reimburse any capitals lost to this untested feature
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Pedro Sangre
Ars ex Discordia
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:13:00 -
[55]
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Angelina MacDonnell
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:15:00 -
[56]
I don't fly capitals, but this just seems plain messed up. How was this not noticed during testing?
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Anderson Wes
Ars ex Discordia
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:16:00 -
[57]
Please be fixing.
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Zy'or Tealon
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:22:00 -
[58]
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The new Bug Reporting process rules! Use it and help make EvE even better!
Quote:
Test your software or your users will!
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Yakha
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:29:00 -
[59]
This is, indeed, completely absurd and should be fixed. |
Mildeliane
Duragon Pioneer Group
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:33:00 -
[60]
Needs a fix.
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Cannibal PLT
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:34:00 -
[61]
I agree
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Cannibal BLT
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:35:00 -
[62]
I, too, agree
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Cannibal ATC
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:37:00 -
[63]
I am also in agreeance
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PCP Houk
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:37:00 -
[64]
hopefully they will fix this quickly
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Cefte
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:53:00 -
[65]
needs fixing
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Callie L'Aliel
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:58:00 -
[66]
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SpiderWebMayhem
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:03:00 -
[67]
Needs fixin'
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Atelier
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:10:00 -
[68]
needs changed
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Triggsz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:11:00 -
[69]
:V |
stonerjesus
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:13:00 -
[70]
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SpiderWebMaelstrom
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:13:00 -
[71]
Agreein wit dis
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marshmallow madness
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:14:00 -
[72]
I see that someone from Goonswarm is the OP. Therefore I support this issue.
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DaiTengu
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:16:00 -
[73]
I plan on warping my mothership to a cap blob just to see what happens.
Kenny be ready to kill anything that flies off grid (everything)
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Venomire
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 05:36:00 -
[74]
Empty supporting.
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Freedom Kick
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Posted - 2009.03.14 06:03:00 -
[75]
:woop:
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Etien Aldragoran
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 06:27:00 -
[76]
Christ. Not even sure how they let this one in. It has to be fixed asap.
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CaptFlemming
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Posted - 2009.03.14 07:15:00 -
[77]
Yes!
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Magnus Crane
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Posted - 2009.03.14 07:34:00 -
[78]
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Kesslar Znel
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 08:27:00 -
[79]
A measure I think we can all get behind. It definitely seems to be an unintended consequence of the bumping fix and not "works as designed."
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Kallikratess
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Posted - 2009.03.14 09:00:00 -
[80]
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Torquoise
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 09:27:00 -
[81]
Fix this.
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Lord Griever
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Posted - 2009.03.14 10:02:00 -
[82]
fix dis please
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Platinum Sapphire
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:05:00 -
[83]
Amusing as it is to watch, it definately is not something that should be intended. CCP QA really needs to get onto this one ASAP.
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Temari Kurita
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:07:00 -
[84]
Definately not "Working As Intended" this time CCP. Needs a fix, pronto!
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Just another happy bee for the Swarm |
Hertford
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:13:00 -
[85]
Needs fixing, like so many other aspects of the game. |
Darnoth El'lyan
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:35:00 -
[86]
I, too, dislike cap bowling
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Frocke
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:46:00 -
[87]
I don't know, I sort of like my 20km/s Archon it's like a speed buff
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WoogyDude
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 11:48:00 -
[88]
The way caps bounce each other around is pretty absurd and obviously unintended.
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Metella
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Posted - 2009.03.14 12:01:00 -
[89]
Agreed. |
Comma Virgule
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Posted - 2009.03.14 12:09:00 -
[90]
y |
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Rek Esket
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 12:25:00 -
[91]
I have nothing to do with capitals, but I support the idea in this thread
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Shogun Sho'nuff
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Posted - 2009.03.14 14:29:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Shogun Sho''nuff on 14/03/2009 14:28:59
It's me, I'm the one who agrees.
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Illarna Zar
JRC Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.14 14:33:00 -
[93]
not using my cap in gangs until this is fixed
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 14:39:00 -
[94]
Supporting 'dis.
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Bunyip
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Posted - 2009.03.14 16:17:00 -
[95]
This seems like a major oversight on the part of CCP. I will raise this issue at the next meeting we have available, but the schedule is already set for our second CCP - CSM meeting. I'll try to squeeze it in for one of the general discussion slots, but I'm not sure.
"May all your hits be crits." - Knights of the Dinner Table. |
Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 17:13:00 -
[96]
+
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Aurvundill
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 17:31:00 -
[97]
Capital Ship Pinball!
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Trist Ian
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.14 19:24:00 -
[98]
agreed
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Miya Sitara
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 19:45:00 -
[99]
Bumps make me sad :(
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Sawirek
BLACK BARONS
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Posted - 2009.03.14 19:56:00 -
[100]
/signed FIX
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Ryan Powers
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.14 21:03:00 -
[101]
Please take a second/ third look at how bumping was "improved."
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Overlord Anubis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 22:02:00 -
[102]
This Issue needs addressing.
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Neyachi
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Posted - 2009.03.14 22:38:00 -
[103]
Getting shot 15k was pretty bad and this is worse. It requires fixing. |
Pattern Clarc
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Posted - 2009.03.14 23:12:00 -
[104]
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My Blog Is Awesome
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
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Posted - 2009.03.14 23:12:00 -
[105]
supported
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Sarai Keris
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.14 23:33:00 -
[106]
Supporting this
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Droog 1
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Posted - 2009.03.15 01:09:00 -
[107]
I hope this isn't intended. Fix please. |
Zabernist
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Posted - 2009.03.15 05:45:00 -
[108]
*snip* please email [email protected] with a link to the sig to find out why its been removed - hutch |
Mrs Trzzbk
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Posted - 2009.03.15 06:42:00 -
[109]
Supportin' dis
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Futt Bucker
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.03.15 06:43:00 -
[110]
this is a game breaking issue and needs to be fixed ASAP.
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Shichiro Motokana
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 06:43:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Vincent Athen
This needs to change, and it needs to change fast.
Fix this and many other things you broke tia.
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what |
Nortseddar
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 06:45:00 -
[112]
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Feran Giall
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 06:46:00 -
[113]
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BurntCornMuffin
Duragon Pioneer Group
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 06:53:00 -
[114]
Seriously, it's like we coated our dreads with really bouncy rubber or something.
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Yatro
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Posted - 2009.03.15 07:04:00 -
[115]
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Mystiel Raleigh
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 07:25:00 -
[116]
Absolutely.
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Elpoc
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Posted - 2009.03.15 08:11:00 -
[117]
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Jack Gates
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 08:13:00 -
[118]
yo sup
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Zak'eni
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Posted - 2009.03.15 08:18:00 -
[119]
Supporting, this needs to be addressed.
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Shailo Koljas
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 08:19:00 -
[120]
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Winston Chill
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Posted - 2009.03.15 08:32:00 -
[121]
Do this
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isqander
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.03.15 08:55:00 -
[122]
This needs to be hotfixed asap. Capital fleets are hilariously broken right now. 
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JoeBlonk
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Posted - 2009.03.15 09:13:00 -
[123]
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Gorfob
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 10:00:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Gorfob on 15/03/2009 10:00:01
I ended up 189km's off station today in an Anshar becuase I undocked along with a Revelation.
After I got over the laughter at traveling at 10km/s in a freighter I was lucky enough to be able to cyno out instead of have to warp somewhere.
Please to be fixing.
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Marketing Agent
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Posted - 2009.03.15 10:45:00 -
[125]
This is ******ed and a huge slip on CCPs part.
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Noa Fuyu
Black Eclipse Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:57:00 -
[126]
Needs fixing!
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I would throw a hundred ships into the void just to see you crushed. |
Peaches Thala
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:19:00 -
[127]
This is ridiculous.
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Khatlesh
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:27:00 -
[128]
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RoboTronic
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:34:00 -
[129]
Giving mah thumbs up.
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Dr Lovemuscle
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:36:00 -
[130]
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Tasha Voronina
Caldari Navy Reserve Force
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:58:00 -
[131]
Ouch 
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Kharriga
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:00:00 -
[132]
need fixing....
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"I'm scissors. Paper is fine. Nerf rock!"
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Batolemaeus
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:00:00 -
[133]
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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Olterin Fire
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:00:00 -
[134]
Real big ouch.. If it's this bad, something needs to be done, fast. Also, desynch? |
boeses frettchen
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:00:00 -
[135]
useful
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SkiLLzThaTKiLLz X
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:01:00 -
[136]
i support this
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SkiLLzThaTKiLLz X | DarkArch0n X
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:01:00 -
[137]
Issue raised
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Moscow Blue
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:02:00 -
[138]
**** (i support the idea/discussion w/ **** rofl)
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desperate dan
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:03:00 -
[139]
Edited by: desperate dan on 15/03/2009 13:06:16
i do kinda like the 4k speed lol. but yep u have my support on this.
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jimmybeech
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:03:00 -
[140]
fix please this is just crazy
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Sala Cameron
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:04:00 -
[141]
yup, fix this
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Giganticus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:15:00 -
[142]
as hilarious as it is, it needs fixing
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sahtila
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:20:00 -
[143]
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Fahrq
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:59:00 -
[144]
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RazorCRO
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 14:02:00 -
[145]
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roflcat
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Posted - 2009.03.15 14:26:00 -
[146]
change!
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Sirani
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:25:00 -
[147]
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RVWinkle
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:59:00 -
[148]
This bug is critical to gameplay and needs to be fixed immediately.
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Lomilitah
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 16:00:00 -
[149]
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2009.03.15 16:05:00 -
[150]
Reminds me of "Bumpageddon"
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Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Danny Centurai
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 16:24:00 -
[151]
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L'Artest
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Posted - 2009.03.15 17:04:00 -
[152]
Yup.
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Tamtel Skreej
Oberon Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.03.15 17:04:00 -
[153]
Needs to be done
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Vlajko san
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 17:34:00 -
[154]
Agreed.
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Scarlett2004
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Posted - 2009.03.15 17:38:00 -
[155]
thumbs up
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Cpt Iwan
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 19:25:00 -
[156]
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Chairman Lmao
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 20:17:00 -
[157]
im down with da op
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Xadus
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Posted - 2009.03.15 20:57:00 -
[158]
FIX THIS
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Oghma Grianainech
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:29:00 -
[159]
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Ziester
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:25:00 -
[160]
Hotfix this. Seriously all capital ships are amazingly broken. This should be a priority like fixing the POS exploit was a priority.
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Gloria Lewis
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Posted - 2009.03.16 02:29:00 -
[161]
now playing: Elbow - The fix
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Blazde
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.16 02:43:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Blazde on 16/03/2009 02:44:20
It feels a bit like billiards in space. The immersion-breaker of ships bumping into each other at all is one thing but a mothership clipping another cap for a second on jump-in and being fired off at 15km/s (150 times it's normal cruise velocity) is another entirely, and the randomness of it just causes frustration, not fair-but-risky gameplay.
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Ivoryman
GreenSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 03:01:00 -
[163]
Representing with a thumbs up...
Ivory
x-AWAR, mostly retired |
Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2009.03.16 04:58:00 -
[164]
add to the list of things to discuss next week with CCP
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Star Nove
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.16 07:45:00 -
[165]
most certainly needs fixing as it will make Supercaps almost impossible to kill.. Titan tackled? No problem, warp in a dread or a carrier and watch the titan out accelerate anything else in the game off grid...
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The views expressed in this post are mine and in no way reflect those of my Corp or Alliance.
CCP Priorities need to change!
P1 Fix the Netcode so it's playable.
P2 Let me walk around an egg |
Unbowed Ash
Ad Astra Vexillum
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.16 10:02:00 -
[166]
Need fix
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Soul Raven
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.16 10:42:00 -
[167]
please dear god fix this
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Cas Ca'Dego
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:26:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Cas Ca''Dego on 16/03/2009 11:33:18
Yup. Obviously. The desynch this causes too is ridiculous.
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Zareph
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:55:00 -
[169]
try jumping a rorqual and jump freighter at same time. woo hoo bump city.
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Sertan Deras
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:55:00 -
[170]
Yah, at this point, the capital bumping is beyond stupid. You can't even cyno in to a system, or do a capital warp in, without bumping capitals 50km away from each other. If CCP actually intended this, than it's obvious they have no one on the dev team that actually flies capital ships in real combat.
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Confirmed
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:56:00 -
[171]
supporting
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Zariphina Wylde
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:56:00 -
[172]
hooray for unintended consequences.
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Reika Wylde
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:57:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Reika Wylde on 16/03/2009 16:57:21
so *that* is what happened to me on the JITA undock, my Fenrir got rammed back underneath it when another freighter undocked right in front of me.
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Thulwik Wylde
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:58:00 -
[174]
while I'm happy to build capitals for people that lose them this seems like a to easy way to take out capitals
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Greyhair
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:59:00 -
[175]
This seems like an easy 0.01 patch inclusion.
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Sethur Blackcoat
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 17:11:00 -
[176]
I don't even fly capitals but this is just dumb and broken.
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Fanzen
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 17:31:00 -
[177]
Fix this, holy crap fix this.
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Theris Elistriter
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 17:35:00 -
[178]
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Tea Spoon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 17:36:00 -
[179]
Don't stop here, remove ship/ship collisions from the game entirely and solve more lag issues than you can imagine. |
GiggMaster
Main Office
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Posted - 2009.03.16 17:37:00 -
[180]
This needs to be fixed ASAP
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GiggMaster |
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Julius Gherhan
Caldari
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.16 18:24:00 -
[181]
Do fix please
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Psilocin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 19:15:00 -
[182]
I love pinball as much as the other guy, but this stuff is just ridiculous.
Fix it.
FOFOFOOOO! |
Elektrea
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2009.03.16 19:42:00 -
[183]
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.16 21:20:00 -
[184]
lol the bumps now a days are beyond hilarious, until it means the death of your cap due to crappy game mechanics.
ya fix it
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.16 23:32:00 -
[185]
I suspect that capships bumping to 400km from where they warped/cyno'd isn't an intended feature of the new patch.
(Please fix this CCP before I dare to undock my carrier)
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Lucas Tigh
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.17 03:35:00 -
[186]
Sweet Christmas.
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aevistyne
Solarflare Heavy Industries
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 05:46:00 -
[187]
/signed, this cant possibly be working as intended, warp into a POS and spend 20 minutes getting the dreads in position, not cool.
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CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:05:00 -
[188]
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Dark Hessian
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Posted - 2009.03.18 02:52:00 -
[189]
Bumping the cap ship bump thread.
FIX IT PLEASE< FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,( and eve)!
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MrClock
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 04:20:00 -
[190]
Oh god got bumped 100k today please fix
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Rn Bonnet
Free Collective
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.18 07:06:00 -
[191]
Plz to be fixing.
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Zeturi
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.18 08:30:00 -
[192]
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Jareck Hunter
Academy of Decadence
Hereticus Aegis Communis
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:14:00 -
[193]
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Sara Leone
Freelancer Union
Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2009.03.18 13:10:00 -
[194]
Needs immediate attention imho and obviously a bug but supporting anyway
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Jameroz
Echoes of Space
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Posted - 2009.03.18 15:52:00 -
[195]
/signed
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Speedie Tappaja
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.03.18 15:54:00 -
[196]
yep yep
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Ebisou
The Underground Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.20 06:17:00 -
[197]
supported |
Jelmer
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.03.20 06:35:00 -
[198]
Sure, I don't mind killing a bumped-by-friendlies goon, but the current mechanism is stupid beyond words.
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CobraBytez
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.20 07:20:00 -
[199]
Supported.
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SpaceBenfish
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Posted - 2009.03.20 10:49:00 -
[200]
Please fix the bumping. Stuff like this really makes new releases very anti-climactic. You could make wormhole space more fun that Jessica Albas covered in baby oil and no one is going to give a **** when it now takes strategy to undock.
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Doxs Roxs
Free Collective
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.20 11:15:00 -
[201]
For the love of all things that are holy, get your **** together and fix this piece of S H I T ASAP!!!
From the looks of this they implemented this change without even testing it.
Its easy to see even with only a few capital ships.
After 9 months of being a "!" face, I now discover that Im butt ugly instead... |
Drakona Malchon
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.20 13:29:00 -
[202]
/signed
Combat Op Director
Free-Space-Ranger
Corporate Homepage
onlinegaming since 1998
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Vx15l
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Posted - 2009.03.20 17:02:00 -
[203]
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Alqualonde
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.21 14:57:00 -
[204]
Watching a TCF fleet land like fireworks last week was awesome.
Not really. Fix this plz. |
Red Thunder
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.03.21 21:23:00 -
[205]
funny as **** and nerfs blobs, keep it lol
Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines |
Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.22 09:28:00 -
[206]
fix ittt !!!
they stole my sig :'( |
TimMc
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.22 10:13:00 -
[207]
arg would be a horribly way to lose a capital.
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Funkcikle
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.03.22 15:22:00 -
[208]
whist I agreed totally, anything that upsets this many goons can only be a good thing, as such I cannot support this totally reasonable proposal
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WhiteTigersGod
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Posted - 2009.03.22 17:57:00 -
[209]
Fix it!!!
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Xerpex
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.22 20:45:00 -
[210]
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Dworf
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.23 00:31:00 -
[211]
capital bumpage needs fixing asap
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Cindy McCain
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 04:16:00 -
[212]
supported
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Aluin Chaput
Mort's Navy
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Posted - 2009.03.24 02:16:00 -
[213]
Massive Support here, even if I don't have a carrier and will probobly never get the Mom I want.
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Tomic
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.24 03:05:00 -
[214]
Please fix this insane problem.
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Zzelle
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.24 03:36:00 -
[215]
It is unacceptable that this physics change allows capships to move faster than my rifter. Please fix.
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madd0g11
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Posted - 2009.03.24 04:02:00 -
[216]
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GENERAL EMILIO
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Posted - 2009.03.24 05:05:00 -
[217]
Edited by: GENERAL EMILIO on 24/03/2009 05:05:15
GENERAL EMILIO approves this message.
Maybe they didn't bother testing capitals bumping each other since that's not what they were trying to change
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.03.24 05:16:00 -
[218]
this does not only affect capital ships. also a rat just bumped with structure and ended up like 160 away from it. went there at 800m/s.
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Traverse Moonstalker
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.24 08:15:00 -
[219]
please fix this soon
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Captain Politics
JotunHeim Hird
Frontier Trading and Co Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.24 10:05:00 -
[220]
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Cippalippus Primus
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.24 10:06:00 -
[221]
-clp
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2009.03.24 12:40:00 -
[222]
Fix is due out next Wednesday according to the patch notes.
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ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.03.24 12:41:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Fix is due out next Wednesday according to the patch notes.
Indeed.
We discussed it with CCP this weekend, and it was a known bug, which was fixed on their internal server.
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Vincent Athen
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.24 15:01:00 -
[224]
Hey thanks for the support.
Nice to see things getting fixed.
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Keitoshi Yamada
Mjolnir Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:11:00 -
[225]
Edited by: Keitoshi Yamada on 12/05/2009 22:12:34
Funny how when GS makes a post, all of GS supports it right away, lol.
I sure am gonna miss those times when wartargets try to bump my frieghter so it can't warp, and end up bumping it XXkm/s /into/ alignment for my warpout... haha
Yes, please fix this, CCP, it's awesome, but no, I'm sorry, it's just wrong.
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Didn't see the dates on the posts, oops. I'm guessing it's fixed now? |
Ausser
Cybertech Industrials Agency
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Posted - 2009.05.21 21:51:00 -
[226]
supported
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Corey Feldman
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Posted - 2009.05.26 14:25:00 -
[227]
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Mr Billybob
All Around Research Inc
Onslaught.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 20:29:00 -
[228]
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.30 01:23:00 -
[229]
Implement fleet formations to counter this
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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white kight
Galaxy Punks
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.30 04:42:00 -
[230]
Totally supporting this
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
:facepalm:
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Kryz Terriq
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Posted - 2009.05.30 16:19:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Kryz Terriq on 30/05/2009 16:20:35
/signed
yeah please fix it.
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arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2009.05.30 17:09:00 -
[232]
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Unicum Hungarian Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.30 19:11:00 -
[233]
supporting
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Draith Vinal
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Posted - 2009.06.01 04:11:00 -
[234]
support
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Shaleen
Beach Boys
BeachBoys
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Posted - 2009.06.01 04:13:00 -
[235]
supporting
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Aminam Proweco
Smegnet Incorporated
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