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Venna
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Lots of threads/flames/whines have been posted about the Tempest clearly being the worst out of the tier 2 Battleships. Is CCP reading these threads at all? I have not seen any official response that gives me hope that my Tempest will get any improvements it desperately needs since the projectile nerfgimp.
Does CCP expect Tempest pilots to start training for other racial BS ships?
Can we get some clue if Tempest will get any boosts in any upcoming patches? Or will be it be "soon?"
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Venna
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Lots of threads/flames/whines have been posted about the Tempest clearly being the worst out of the tier 2 Battleships. Is CCP reading these threads at all? I have not seen any official response that gives me hope that my Tempest will get any improvements it desperately needs since the projectile nerfgimp.
Does CCP expect Tempest pilots to start training for other racial BS ships?
Can we get some clue if Tempest will get any boosts in any upcoming patches? Or will be it be "soon?"
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Sun Sliver
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Sliver on 16/08/2004 21:24:56 Do you really want an answer to that V? btw totally agree with you as i'm on of the 'fix my damn ship' posters also. If i hear the word Soon ever come out of a CCP msg again im gonna write Webster a new definition of it.
Soon - noun, a redirection of time estimation, often associated with negative feedback from subject, followed by a mass exitus of audience before action requirement being promotod to Now, like termed 'Damnit we got do something about this - ppl are leaving the game, oh no our wallets!'
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Sun Sliver
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Sliver on 16/08/2004 21:24:56 Do you really want an answer to that V? btw totally agree with you as i'm on of the 'fix my damn ship' posters also. If i hear the word Soon ever come out of a CCP msg again im gonna write Webster a new definition of it.
Soon - noun, a redirection of time estimation, often associated with negative feedback from subject, followed by a mass exitus of audience before action requirement being promotod to Now, like termed 'Damnit we got do something about this - ppl are leaving the game, oh no our wallets!'
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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Rob Mattacks on 16/08/2004 21:47:44 There is a point to it though. I would prefer if they did come out and say either - we are looking into it or we think it is fine.
If knew that things will stay the same then at least then all the people who are unhappy with Minmatar BS's can finally grieve from the loss of their precious scrap of metal and move on to pastures new and train for another race.
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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Rob Mattacks on 16/08/2004 21:47:44 There is a point to it though. I would prefer if they did come out and say either - we are looking into it or we think it is fine.
If knew that things will stay the same then at least then all the people who are unhappy with Minmatar BS's can finally grieve from the loss of their precious scrap of metal and move on to pastures new and train for another race.
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Noin
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:35:00 -
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Noin
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:35:00 -
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Galton Grimm
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:56:00 -
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Yes this is critical, as I started an extremely beautiful and evil Minmatar Sebiestor alt last night. She will deserve a wicked battleship.
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Galton Grimm
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:56:00 -
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Yes this is critical, as I started an extremely beautiful and evil Minmatar Sebiestor alt last night. She will deserve a wicked battleship.
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G8torSkull
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:27:00 -
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its more the projectiles than the tempest imho. the guns just suck and cant hit the broad side of a 5 story wide barn even with decent skills
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G8torSkull
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:27:00 -
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its more the projectiles than the tempest imho. the guns just suck and cant hit the broad side of a 5 story wide barn even with decent skills
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:05:00 -
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not to mention how my heart hurt to see peoples flying typhoon and tempest whit .. yes - lasers (and having minmatar BS lvl 5)
i myself are using Lares in typhoon and they work MUCH beter than projektile - even despite they take a little cap(too litle i might say - if minmatar ship is able to use em well) 
Comoon CCP - time to take Head out of arse and admitting you overnerffed and DOING something abaut it  -------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:05:00 -
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not to mention how my heart hurt to see peoples flying typhoon and tempest whit .. yes - lasers (and having minmatar BS lvl 5)
i myself are using Lares in typhoon and they work MUCH beter than projektile - even despite they take a little cap(too litle i might say - if minmatar ship is able to use em well) 
Comoon CCP - time to take Head out of arse and admitting you overnerffed and DOING something abaut it  -------------------------------------------
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:28:00 -
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you want the tempest to be FOTM again.
You sir, ARE CRAZY.
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:28:00 -
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you want the tempest to be FOTM again.
You sir, ARE CRAZY.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:31:00 -
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persdonally, I owuld (if i was noob) now start training minmatar.
By the time i ouwld have BS skills the tempest should be back at the top again some way or another.
Its all cyclical anyway, apoc is next in nerf line. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:31:00 -
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persdonally, I owuld (if i was noob) now start training minmatar.
By the time i ouwld have BS skills the tempest should be back at the top again some way or another.
Its all cyclical anyway, apoc is next in nerf line. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Wulfgard
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:45:00 -
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I totally gave up on the Tempest, that bird won't be unerf until post Shiva, let's face it Devs must be very busy with Shiva nearing release date. I just fly Apoc and pray they won't nerf Megapulses Or else...   
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:45:00 -
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I totally gave up on the Tempest, that bird won't be unerf until post Shiva, let's face it Devs must be very busy with Shiva nearing release date. I just fly Apoc and pray they won't nerf Megapulses Or else...   
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2004.08.17 04:46:00 -
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Yup, Oveur said in his latest blog that CCP is totally focused on Shiva now and that only thing done to Castor is the new t2 content. So, personally i'm gonna train amarr ships and guns (not that i have anything to train on minnies and projs anyway )
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2004.08.17 04:46:00 -
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Yup, Oveur said in his latest blog that CCP is totally focused on Shiva now and that only thing done to Castor is the new t2 content. So, personally i'm gonna train amarr ships and guns (not that i have anything to train on minnies and projs anyway )
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Azraac
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:43:00 -
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Personally this is extremely discouraging to new Minmatar players, because as you surf through the forum's all you hear is X X X ship is soo good, or X is overpowered, and if you EVER hear about the Temptest it's ONLY complaints about how bad they are. I have not seen a SINGLE post talk about how good their Temptest is, those who like them says how they Make Do, how the Survive, but all of them have to go to extremes to make do while every other only have the problem of not being the Top of the Pop. And yes, I am a new Minmatar player and yes I have the skills to fly a Temptest and the ship itself and to be honest im not sure if I am gonna outfit it, or sell it and start training for apoc right away insted.
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Azraac
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:43:00 -
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Personally this is extremely discouraging to new Minmatar players, because as you surf through the forum's all you hear is X X X ship is soo good, or X is overpowered, and if you EVER hear about the Temptest it's ONLY complaints about how bad they are. I have not seen a SINGLE post talk about how good their Temptest is, those who like them says how they Make Do, how the Survive, but all of them have to go to extremes to make do while every other only have the problem of not being the Top of the Pop. And yes, I am a new Minmatar player and yes I have the skills to fly a Temptest and the ship itself and to be honest im not sure if I am gonna outfit it, or sell it and start training for apoc right away insted.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:50:00 -
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At every nerf "round" there is outbrake of "jack of all trades" feever
when the old stuff is selled out and new stuff and skilled trained
oh yeah - wery good RP aspekt of EVE seeing minmatar pilots whit amarr guns/ships -------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:50:00 -
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At every nerf "round" there is outbrake of "jack of all trades" feever
when the old stuff is selled out and new stuff and skilled trained
oh yeah - wery good RP aspekt of EVE seeing minmatar pilots whit amarr guns/ships -------------------------------------------
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:31:00 -
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The Tempest is fine. It was finally fixed so that projectiles couldn't get good hits from 100km to 5km. Now all you guys that were flying around in ub3r Tempests have normal ships and ya'll are butt hurt about it. Get over it already. It happens to everyone.
CPR Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN AN XL SHIEILD BOOSTER AND EIGHT MEGA BEAMS, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!" Raven PG Nerf: "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN SIX SIEGE LAUNCHERS AND A DUAL REPAIRER ARMOR TANK SETUP, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!" Projectile Accuracy Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T HIT BS FROM 160K AWAY AND ALSO HIT INTERCEPTORS ORBITING AT 6KM, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
Do we need 15 threads a day asking to have your ub3r ships back It's not going to happen so get in the game, figure out a good setup, use projectiles how they are supposed to be used, and actually try playing Eve instead of the forums.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:31:00 -
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The Tempest is fine. It was finally fixed so that projectiles couldn't get good hits from 100km to 5km. Now all you guys that were flying around in ub3r Tempests have normal ships and ya'll are butt hurt about it. Get over it already. It happens to everyone.
CPR Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN AN XL SHIEILD BOOSTER AND EIGHT MEGA BEAMS, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!" Raven PG Nerf: "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN SIX SIEGE LAUNCHERS AND A DUAL REPAIRER ARMOR TANK SETUP, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!" Projectile Accuracy Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T HIT BS FROM 160K AWAY AND ALSO HIT INTERCEPTORS ORBITING AT 6KM, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
Do we need 15 threads a day asking to have your ub3r ships back It's not going to happen so get in the game, figure out a good setup, use projectiles how they are supposed to be used, and actually try playing Eve instead of the forums.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
CPR Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN AN XL SHIEILD BOOSTER AND EIGHT MEGA BEAMS, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
Raven PG Nerf: "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN SIX SIEGE LAUNCHERS AND A DUAL REPAIRER ARMOR TANK SETUP, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
Projectile Accuracy Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T HIT BS FROM 160K AWAY AND ALSO HIT INTERCEPTORS ORBITING AT 6KM, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
@ cprelay - on amarian ships you still can do that - even beter than before due to new Bonuses, cap recharger II, and cap efesinsy of Armor tank (and you still can use Caprelays
@ Raven PG nerf - yes - i agree - it was a nerf, but ATLEAST it was compensatet whit Damage 
Projektile nerf - Right now only way u can hit anything is to go to 160km, you numbnuts! 1400mms arent Hitting BS's at optimal range whit EMP ammo - and thats telling something - also AC's are useles cause crap trakking comparing to other close range turrets
unplug your keyboard -------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
CPR Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN AN XL SHIEILD BOOSTER AND EIGHT MEGA BEAMS, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
Raven PG Nerf: "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T RUN SIX SIEGE LAUNCHERS AND A DUAL REPAIRER ARMOR TANK SETUP, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
Projectile Accuracy Nerf = "OH NO, NOW I CAN'T HIT BS FROM 160K AWAY AND ALSO HIT INTERCEPTORS ORBITING AT 6KM, OMG CCP I HATE YOU!"
@ cprelay - on amarian ships you still can do that - even beter than before due to new Bonuses, cap recharger II, and cap efesinsy of Armor tank (and you still can use Caprelays
@ Raven PG nerf - yes - i agree - it was a nerf, but ATLEAST it was compensatet whit Damage 
Projektile nerf - Right now only way u can hit anything is to go to 160km, you numbnuts! 1400mms arent Hitting BS's at optimal range whit EMP ammo - and thats telling something - also AC's are useles cause crap trakking comparing to other close range turrets
unplug your keyboard -------------------------------------------
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