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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ratchman Edited by: Ratchman on 27/03/2009 15:24:54
Originally by: Bad Messenger Plexing does not need more rewards. It is like any other pvp but you can not get instant 'win' feeling it comes by time after all Gallente systems has turned to Caldari. Then we can say Gallente got owned. No matter if you have more kills or not. You have still betrayed your people and failed to defend you systems.
Keep fighting without cause, we know what we want and you and your friends can not prevent it with your attitude. You are not making money in fw you are defending your people.
Well, you can boast that you have 'owned' the Gallente, but if there is no consequence to this, then it is a hollow boast and nothing more. We could quite easily boast that we have killed more ships over time, and that at least has some impact on Caldari resources.
And if you're solely 'playing to win', you will eventually be disappointed, as there will be no end to this war (and any resolution would render the game a little less fun). Play to win, sure, but you are meant to be primarily having fun. 
All you gals are doing is hurting of the resources of the Caldarian blobs. They have proven to have very little impact on the larger war. In fact the only reason the Caldari Militia has gotten any recognition lately is on the back of the plexwarfare machine the leading corps have but together in the last couple of months.
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Sillas Cov
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sillas Cov on 27/03/2009 16:19:03 Maybe The constant feedback from the Caldari militia that are successfully plexing and there for taking systems, is a not so much a boast but..... an invitation?
Maybe we have found a reward within, and in spite of, the existing plexing game mechanics, that was unexpected going into plexing ops?
I and my gang scanned out and ran down a hand full of plexes over 5 regions last nite and where satisfied we have the war under control as could find no more contested plexes to run...
I could not help but feeling sad that there where no counter force to this situation, for I respect a good challenger and a solid fight.
Plexing is a means to and end that is rewarding, just take that as a given.
Its obvious that yes we each have our own Pvp styles, and so be it, but really boys what are our pvp options?
Gate camping? Or station games, both with the maxi gank and avoidance of said pawnage eating up all you tactical strategic problem solving??
Blob fleets with lagged out primary calling turkey shoots?
How the frack can I begin to tell you about the cool dynamic tactical situations that have presented themselves to my corp mates and I while plexing and taking systems?
Im still amazed at how challenging it is to pvp in plexes with T1 ships in small gangs. As an Fc here and there, it is such a blast to make the most with the ships at hand as the opposing fleet compositions are so often just balanced enough to justify a fight, given the ship class restrictions on the plex gates.
Truly inspired game mechanic plex ship class restrictions are. And one that pvp players often misunderstand and or are unwilling to use to force interesting battles to happen around.
I could go on but am starting to realize that if you have to explain it to them..... well? 
Onward
Sillas
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Now we've got that over with anyone fancy a fight?
Feel free to uncloak anytime. 
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Messenger on 27/03/2009 20:03:59
Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Originally by: Bad Messenger
Plexing does not need more rewards. It is like any other pvp but you can not get instant 'win' feeling it comes by time after all Gallente systems has turned to Caldari. Then we can say Gallente got owned. No matter if you have more kills or not. You have still betrayed your people and failed to defend you systems.
Keep fighting without cause, we know what we want and you and your friends can not prevent it with your attitude. You are not making money in fw you are defending your people.
ROFL you have to love roleplayers don't you.
So doing something that has absolutely no effect on the game or the war other than to change the display in the top left corner of your screen is more important than actually fighting a war by killing your enemies ships? Bah you know I've grown tired of this arguement, infact I bow to your amazing victories, caldari are truely the kings of factionwar.
Now we've got that over with anyone fancy a fight?
You can have fight in almost every plex PERVS enter.
Like these:
http://pervs.pingtimeout.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13055 http://pervs.pingtimeout.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13014
And lot of more.. Plexing does not mean that there is no pvp or fun. I had fun on those both fights. You guys just have to open your eyes and see what is beyond Tama. Main idea in faction warfare is to capture and defend plexes and fight for them. Why you are in militia at 1st place if you are not interested of it?
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:39:00 -
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Until your Militia stop giving us kills in Tama why would we leave? We get more kills in tama/caladri high sec than any other militia corp ANYWHERE.
So why leave? As for FW. 5000+ war targets, plenty to kill, plenty to do.
We may even plex just to see how easy it is. Won't that be fun for your guys.. Doing defensive plexes in TAMA \0/
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Until your Militia stop giving us kills in Tama why would we leave? We get more kills in tama/caladri high sec than any other militia corp ANYWHERE.
So why leave? As for FW. 5000+ war targets, plenty to kill, plenty to do.
We may even plex just to see how easy it is. Won't that be fun for your guys.. Doing defensive plexes in TAMA \0/
I like to see you guys try to tama away from the Caldari. 
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.03.27 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Until your Militia stop giving us kills in Tama why would we leave? We get more kills in tama/caladri high sec than any other militia corp ANYWHERE.
So why leave? As for FW. 5000+ war targets, plenty to kill, plenty to do.
We may even plex just to see how easy it is. Won't that be fun for your guys.. Doing defensive plexes in TAMA \0/
As i said earlier, your attitude lead to Caldari victory. I do not care if you guys camp in Tama 23/7 and get some easy kills. War is going somewhere else and while you sit in Tama our job to conquer rest of gallente systems is much easier.
Life is making choices, some lead to victory some lead to defeat.
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Kkmar Jheren
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:19:00 -
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In the last 2 months that 22nd decided to focus on capturing plexes in VV.
We managed to get about 1300 kills.
I dont know if that is allot or not compared to the Tama/OMS bloobs.
But what is important is that almost all of these kills happened in exciting and balanced fights. Between small gangs in a lag free environment. Fights that can go either way at all times. Fights where each and every member of the gang is an important part of the whole. Not just a statistic in the blob.
Fighting over complexes, with ship restrictions and such, is unique to FW. You cant get that scenario anywhere else in Eve.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 28/03/2009 11:25:26
Originally by: Bad Messenger Like these:
http://pervs.pingtimeout.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13055 http://pervs.pingtimeout.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13014
And lot of more.. Plexing does not mean that there is no pvp or fun. I had fun on those both fights. You guys just have to open your eyes and see what is beyond Tama. Main idea in faction warfare is to capture and defend plexes and fight for them. Why you are in militia at 1st place if you are not interested of it?
Ouch, confirming the fights in the plexes are fun, we need a crap load of practice to get as good at it as pervs are however... to the next time gents.
Oh and olzi's ew frig needs nerfing! 
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:34:00 -
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Confirming fighting DARK is fun, all the metagaming and smacktalk(guess who lol) put aside. You lose some you win some. And it happens INSIDE the plexes too.
Oh and props to 11D too.
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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olzi
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Oh and olzi's ew frig needs nerfing! 
Please Mitch, at this rate I wont have the heart to smack you guys anymore. It's all I have left. 
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.28 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: olzi
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Oh and olzi's ew frig needs nerfing! 
Please Mitch, at this rate I wont have the heart to smack you guys anymore. It's all I have left. 
ok ok, hug, quick reach around, then we can go back to being ****s to each other k?
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kkmar Jheren In the last 2 months that 22nd decided to focus on capturing plexes in VV.
We managed to get about 1300 kills.
I dont know if that is allot or not compared to the Tama/OMS bloobs.
About 1/4 of the kills we get in tama alone. just for your info.
And WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY PLEXING AS WELL \0/ go us!!!!
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jag
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kkmar Jheren
But what is important is that almost all of these kills happened in exciting and balanced fights. Between small gangs in a lag free environment. Fights that can go either way at all times. Fights where each and every member of the gang is an important part of the whole. Not just a statistic in the blob.
But we in WOLFY do not like balanced fights .
We like fighting outnumbered.
It give us more targets to kill.
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
Originally by: Kkmar Jheren In the last 2 months that 22nd decided to focus on capturing plexes in VV.
We managed to get about 1300 kills.
I dont know if that is allot or not compared to the Tama/OMS bloobs.
About 1/4 of the kills we get in tama alone. just for your info.
And WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY PLEXING AS WELL \0/ go us!!!!
Confirming that WOLFY are good guys. The **** in Tama last night was funny as hell. Seriously Caldari. How do you fall for the same thing twice?
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Lt Mooncat
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:34:00 -
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It looks like CCP are trying to get Caldari and Gallente militia into some sort of Event. Both groups have the following messages on news page of the militia office.
Caldari ::: TRANSMISSION FROM STATE PROTECTORATE COMMAND :::
::: TO ALL STATE PROTECTORATE CAPSULEERS :::
The State Protectorate command issues their compliments to the militia in the recent re-securing of the Black Rise region.
The Gallente's Federal Defense Union militia has called for the siege of two sovereign Caldari systems, Raihbaka and Martoh, in the Inolari constellation of Black Rise. They maintain the false pretense of stolen equipment as a justification for a fresh push into the region. This is a blatant aggression on their part purely to secure mineral assets urgently required for civilian development projects and industrial applications in the Black Rise region.
Intelligence has intercepted a leaked communication that the Federation Navy have a small window of opportunity for their plans to succeed. As of today, this window stands at fifteen days.
Objective is as follows: To prevent the Gallente taking control of the Raihbaka and Martoh systems by any means necessary.
This is an attack on our civilian populous, as well as on our integrity, and shall not go unanswered. No mercy for enemies of the State!
Gallente ::: TRANSMISSION FROM FDU COMMAND :::
::: TO ALL FEDERATION DEFENCE UNION CAPSULEERS :::
The Federation Navy has passed on their gratitude to all active FDU pilots for their commendable efforts so far in combating the Caldari forces.
At the request of the Federal Navy regional operations, the FDU Command is issuing a general call to arms for capsuleer militia forces to target the Caldari systems of Raihbaka and Martoh located in the Inolari constellation, Black Rise.
Objective is as follows: To secure space occupancy and clear the way for Federation Navy search and capture teams to locate stolen military equipment.
The Federation Navy has assigned a sixteen day window of opportunity to this campaign, starting from the time of this message.
Maybe those systems have been given more juice? Who knows what it means. Lots of pilots have been complaining about FW recently and that it was not being given any attention by CCP. I urge all players to get to those sytems and see what is occuring.
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