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Van Cleef
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.03.20 17:44:00 -
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CALDARI INDEPENDENT NAVY RESERVE NEWS RELEASE
IMMEDIATE RELEASE20 March
On February 16th the Command Staff of the Caldari Independent Navy Reserve authorized Operation Liberation for commencement. The order was signed by Admiral of the Fleet Ladel Teravada that same day.
Operation Libertation's goal was the removal of Gallente military power over the Intaki people in the Verge Vendor and Placid Regions. CAIN combat fleets deployed en mass to the Intaki System on 17 Feb and began assaults on adjacent systems and constellations. CAIN led offensives captured the Iges system on 6 March, the Loes system on 15 March, the Oueletta System on 17 March and the Intaki system on 18 March. This list is not all inclusive as battle reports are still awaiting final disposition.
During Operation Liberation many battles were fought against not only Gallente Militia and Gallente military flagged vessels but also against local brigands and warlords that threatened the security of the operational regions. During combat actions CAIN recorded and estimated 190 enemy vessels destroyed and suffered 53 casualties. These records are not inclusive of allied commands operating in the combat theater.
While in Theater CAIN was assisted by members of the Caldari Militia and the State Protectorate. Notable assistance was obtained from the 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit and the Space Perverts and Forums Warriors United Corporation.
CAIN's record of assisting the Intaki people goes back many years. We have operated in the Intaki influence area before and at the request of Intaki Paramilitary forces. With the completion of Operation Liberation the Intaki people now have the opportunity to choose for themselves their future. We hope that the Intaki people will be able to take command of their future and move in a direction of hope and prosperity without worry of subjugation at the hands of an aggressive Gallente Military. CAIN will maintain combat assets in the area on an as needed basis to counter any aggressive actions from forces that would threaten security to the area.
You can find an offical press release at the CAIN press office located here, or by joining channel CAINCOM. The 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit has released information here.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:08:00 -
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Well, I guess CAIN's self-declared defensive posture has been shot in the foot. I'm not surprised, though.
Is "liberating" the Intaki system and therefore giving the Federation further reason to loathe us in the best interests of the State?
Eve Radio - Playing Music To The Masses! |

Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 20/03/2009 18:11:50 I despair, I really do.
I'd LIKE to argue this. I'd like to point out that the Intaki for the most part WANT to be part of the Federation - that even the Intaki Seperatist Movement joined the FDU when the war broke out and definitely don't want Caldari involvement in their affairs. I'd like to point out that the Intaki are a major influence on modern Federation culture, that the president is Intaki, as are many of the Federation's senators, and that the Intaki people are more than decisive and strong enough to liberate themselves if they ever truly feel the need.
I'd like to do that. You aren't going to listen though, are you you ignorant, hot-headed bastards? - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Pytria Le''Danness on 20/03/2009 18:17:14 If Intaki is now "free", why is it listed as "occupied" ?
I'm sad to see former friends join a dictator who thinks it is perfectly acceptable to kill his co-workers so the company he works for can be bought up at a discount. You come with lies and hold a gun to the head of our people and call that "liberation"?
Well, I saw it coming and actually stopped wasting my pilot's resources to wage a war the Federation is unwilling to fight. As long as the Federation politicians are safe and sound in high sec space they are content with letting every hobo plow the Placid space lanes. Hopefully this will wake them up.
But who am I kidding? Foiritain might be Intaki by birth, but in my eyes he has left his heritage behind.
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Ladel Teravada
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda Well, I guess CAIN's self-declared defensive posture has been shot in the foot. I'm not surprised, though.
Its quite simple. We found that playing it defensive and wait for them to ravage our worlds and systems were not in the best of interest for the Caldari people. So we made sure they had to concentrate on their own systems where the Caldari people would not suffer from their depredations.
Commodore Ladel Teravada Executive Officer, Fleet Operations
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Orun Erajen
Gallente The Cult of Aenebra
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Orun Erajen on 20/03/2009 18:54:23
Originally by: Ladel Teravada So we made sure they had to concentrate on their own systems where the Caldari people would not suffer from their depredations.
So, instead of the Caldari people suffering from the Federation's depredations, the Federation's people must now suffer from Caldari depredations. How very noble of you. It's clear where the true value of lives lies in your eyes, worm. -----
Orun Erajen Now I Am Free |

Ladel Teravada
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.03.20 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen Edited by: Orun Erajen on 20/03/2009 18:54:23
Originally by: Ladel Teravada So we made sure they had to concentrate on their own systems where the Caldari people would not suffer from their depredations.
So, instead of the Caldari people suffering from the Federation's depredations, the Federation's people must now suffer from Caldari depredations. How very noble of you. It's clear where the true value of lives lies in your eyes, worm.
The day a single of your life accomplishments rank even close to my day-to-day ones, you can call me that again. Til that time you're just making a fool out of yourself.
The Caldari has never been known to force themselves upon other peoples in the way the Gallente Federation has. Therefore I do not forsee any depredations from our forces. As is not mentioned above, we were actually working with Intaki Liberational forces in the area during this to make things as easy for the general population as possible.
Commodore Ladel Teravada Executive Officer, Fleet Operations
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DeadRow
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada
The day a single of your life accomplishments rank even close to my day-to-day ones, you can call me that again. Til that time you're just making a fool out of yourself.
Please.
Originally by: Ladel Teravada The Caldari has never been known to force themselves upon other peoples in the way the Gallente Federation has. Therefore I do not forsee any depredations from our forces. As is not mentioned above, we were actually working with Intaki Liberational forces in the area during this to make things as easy for the general population as possible.
No the Caldari has been known for their racial attacks..
And if the General Populace wish to remain with the Federation? Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
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Grr
Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:06:00 -
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While I feel they are wasting your time on the Intaki I wish our old friends in the Caldari Independent Navy Reserve the best of luck as always. Give the enemy hell CAIN o/
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow And if the General Populace wish to remain with the Federation?
Well that would be "against our better interests", so the State would be forced to "act with the greater welfare of the Intaki peoples at heart", wouldn't it? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:53:00 -
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I for one look forward to the day when the Intaki people are liberated from the suffocating grasp of Gallentean democracy.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada The day a single of your life accomplishments rank even close to my day-to-day ones, you can call me that again. ... The Caldari has never been known to force themselves upon other peoples in the way the Gallente Federation has. Therefore I do not forsee any depredations from our forces.
You are so naive it's ridiculous. Like Hakatain-haan I'm not even going to bother. I'm glad I'm a pirate.
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Ophelia LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.03.20 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake I for one look forward to the day when the Intaki people are liberated from the suffocating grasp of Gallentean democracy.
What, do you think even if we do, we'll start following your way of life? If the Intaki shuck the Gallente, we're most definetely not picking up another overlord and it most definetely won't be you. -----
Ophelia LeHane LeHane Family Capsuleer Liason and Representative MXD Director |

Magnus Nordir
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.21 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen So, instead of the Caldari people suffering from the Federation's depredations, the Federation's people must now suffer from Caldari depredations. How very noble of you. It's clear where the true value of lives lies in your eyes, worm.
In case you haven't noticed, we are at war. The liberation of Verge Vendor is a perfectly legit act of war, even if you care to debate the "liberation" part. As it is right now, it would be unprofitable for the State to lead a defensive war - just as it's most disadvantageous for the Federation to be forced into fighting one.
How typical of the Gallente - enslave, oppress, start a war, then complain against aggression.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.03.21 01:24:00 -
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Enslave and oppress? We weren't the ones forcibly exiling ethnic minorities and robbing them of all their worldly goods. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Van Cleef
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.03.21 01:52:00 -
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The goal of Operation Liberation was the removal of Gallente Military influence, not to occupy or force Caldari occupation onto the people of Placid. The operation was defensive in nature, as Gallente forces that were invading into Caldari Space used the area for staging, rest and refit. With their haven eliminated, attacks against Caldari planets would be more difficult to undertake and supply.
This operation was conducted for the defense of our State, and not for the grandoise honor of anyone else. It is laughable for individuals and organizations who fight only for isk and blood to judge our actions on their supposide moral grounds. -----------------------------------------------
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.03.21 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Enslave and oppress? We weren't the ones forcibly exiling ethnic minorities and robbing them of all their worldly goods.
No? The Federation forced the Caldari living on our homeworld to be classified as expatriates and disallowed them from owning property on our homeworld. The Federal authorities failed to protect not only historical landmarks, artifacts, and memorials; but the Caldari people as well. Only after the damage had been done and violence got out of hand did the Federation decide to step in and then permitted its officers to open fire on civilians.
The 'forcibly exile' of ethnic Gallente from the State was a safety measure; it saved their lives. That they had to do so quickly and relinquish their worldly possessions in order to remain part of this world should not come as a surprise!
Or perhaps you would have preferred their neighbors fully retaliate for the Gallente actions on Caldari Prime!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.03.21 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland Or perhaps you would have preferred their neighbors fully retaliate for the Gallente actions on Caldari Prime!
Perhaps I would have preferred it if the Caldari had not entered Gallente space illegally, taken one of our planets by force (all the while, holding a gun to the heads of billions of Federal citizens) and then, in the name of "security", invaded our sovreign space and taken my home planet from me, covering it in Provist scum. Oh, trust me. That's what I would have preferred.
I'm already picking up transmissions from my home city, Nederland.
*shakes visibly, his right eye twitching*
Oh yes, it's not pretty at all. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Stayche
Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.03.21 05:19:00 -
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Haha, the State will be quaking now, ole Andy's back with MXD.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.03.21 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Perhaps I would have preferred it if the Caldari had not entered Gallente space illegally, taken one of our planets by force (all the while, holding a gun to the heads of billions of Federal citizens).
YOUR PLANET! YOUR PLANET!
Did your ancestors or any Gallente have to survive the harsh winters of the Kaalakiota Mountains or cross the raging sea between Tikiona and the Muriyukes?
Did they have to survive on a half terraformed world and not suffer the fate of so many other civilizations?
The Federation's claim on that world was one of convenience and spite. They held it not because it held any value to them, no, they occupied my homeworld because the Federation could not have what was not theirs to begin with.
As for the legality of its much needed liberation; CONCORD, the Federation puppet that it is, failed to stop it. They were a bit occupied with your would be ally the Republic, perhaps you should talk to them about legality. Rumors are the Federation funded that illegal fleet.
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2009.03.21 07:27:00 -
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Edited by: Faraelle Brightman on 21/03/2009 07:31:09 To hell with Caldari Prime.
Intaki is our planet, my planet, Pytria's planet, Andreus' planet, our brithright, where we have lived or do live.
CAIN does not speek for us. CAIN have abandoned any right they might once have had to speak for us. CAIN speak only for the Caldari now, and Tibus Heth by extension, even if they would not want to be associated with him. They are, if I may borrow the Caldari phrase, "guri" to us now.
I still don't know what is going to happen for a response, but one that suits their betrayal should be forthcomming. -----------------------
"Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies." |

Cosmo Cyrano
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.21 11:06:00 -
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S'nice, so Intaki is Caldari now yeah, but we still ent good enuff ta flies wiff CAIN?
Nah, m'only messin' wif yer. I donts reckon the State can 'old onto it, but if they do I'll 'av ta fink about movin' there one day. S'been a long time commin' fer some of us, but I don'ts reckon s'quite there yet.
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Logan Xerxes
Steel Soldier's Stainless St33l
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Posted - 2009.03.21 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow
No the Caldari has been known for their racial attacks..
Irrelevent point. This issue would only come up if large colonization efforts were to be started. As we still have the new Black Rise reigon for that, it's unlikely. The only Planetside contact I feel will be a token monitoring force that will keep to itself mainly.
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William Ytiri
YTiRi Retail
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Posted - 2009.03.21 15:37:00 -
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Very well done and a very solid, good executed, efficient campaign. Ishukone board, look to your loyal capsuleers, they will lead the way!
--- Working at Ytiri Retail? Check here. |

Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.03.21 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Intaki is our planet, my planet, Pytria's planet, Andreus' planet, our brithright, where we have lived or do live.
Then perhaps you should have done the work yourself to free yourselves of Gallente dominance and occupation!
It wasn't a Caldari decision to put the Intaki system on the list of vulnerable systems. That was a Senate decision for their CONCORD representative, they put your homeworld in the firing line. The Gallente controlled Senate robs Intaki of its voice.
No, they, the Gallente, are ensuring they avoid the mistake that they made many years ago. They know that now with Caldari space forces controlling the Intaki system that they can re-occupy it and be greeted as liberators.
You assume that Tibus Heth and the Caldari lump the Intaki in with the Gallente, I disagree. But no, you would rather continue to be dominated by the Gallente than be granted the opportunity to have your own voice in the cluster.
CAIN abandon them. Let the Gallente have Intaki back; the Intaki don't want to unite together and have their homeworld out from under foreign dominated neglect.
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Fabienne Gold
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Posted - 2009.03.21 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Fabienne Gold on 21/03/2009 16:46:52 Edited by: Fabienne Gold on 21/03/2009 16:46:34
Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 20/03/2009 18:11:50 I despair, I really do.
I'd LIKE to argue this. I'd like to point out that the Intaki for the most part WANT to be part of the Federation - that even the Intaki Seperatist Movement joined the FDU when the war broke out and definitely don't want Caldari involvement in their affairs. I'd like to point out that the Intaki are a major influence on modern Federation culture, that the president is Intaki, as are many of the Federation's senators, and that the Intaki people are more than decisive and strong enough to liberate themselves if they ever truly feel the need.
I'd like to do that. You aren't going to listen though, are you you ignorant, hot-headed bastards?
Whatever the case, you seem to be unable to understand the concept of profit. Greed is what drives your profits, and profit is what made the State annex the respective systems. If you cannot get to terms with this simple truth, you cannot understand the State's decisions. There always is a place for more open-minded individuals in the Federation however.
ooc: It might be just me, but there seems to be far-more dissidents than actual loyal citizens of the State on the RP forum - a typical case of "But I am the hero!"?
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DeadRow
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2009.03.21 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef This operation was conducted for the defense of our State, and not for the grandoise honor of anyone else.
Now if you said this in the first place, without trying to make yourselves out as some kind of saviour of liberating people who really don't want or need your help, most of this arguing could have not gone on.
Originally by: Logan Xerxes
Originally by: DeadRow
No the Caldari has been known for their racial attacks..
Irrelevent point. This issue would only come up if large colonization efforts were to be started. As we still have the new Black Rise reigon for that, it's unlikely. The only Planetside contact I feel will be a token monitoring force that will keep to itself mainly.
Meh, it was really just a response to the jab about the Gallentes.
/Hikari Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.21 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Fabienne Gold Whatever the case, you seem to be unable to understand the concept of profit. Greed is what drives your profits, and profit is what made the State annex the respective systems. If you cannot get to terms with this simple truth, you cannot understand the State's decisions. There always is a place for more open-minded individuals in the Federation however.
On the contrary, I have a keener appreciation for the term "profit" than many others. For starters, I'm capable of recognizing that profit does not have to be physical or monetary - there's such a thing as a spiritual wealth, after all.
And I agree, Greed is indeed what drove the Protectorate to annex those systems. Greed for glory in combat, to prove their superiority, for... whatever. Exactly what they were greedy for is irrelevant. I am opposed to what they have done, and that's the end of it.
Oh, and do your research, pilot, before suggesting that I of all people might not be loyal to the Caldari people. Conscience and dissidence are not the same thing, and it's very stereotypically Gallentean of you to assume that just because I don't agree with what the State is doing RIGHT NOW means I'm automatically tempted to side with the Federation.. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.03.21 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland Then perhaps you should have done the work yourself to free yourselves of Gallente dominance and occupation!
"It's not our fault we invaded your home system - it's yours! You should have been more diligent in severing yourself from the economy that sustains you, and start protecting yourself with the Navy that you don't have!"
Nederland, I think you just lost every shred of my respect. This is one of the most ludicrous arguments I've ever heard. I don't think it would be possible for you to say anything more ridi-... no, wait:
Originally by: Dex Nederland No, they, the Gallente, are ensuring they avoid the mistake that they made many years ago. They know that now with Caldari space forces controlling the Intaki system that they can re-occupy it and be greeted as liberators.
So now, not only is the invasion of Intaki by Caldari military forces entirely the fault of the Intaki, it's also a secret Gallente conspiracy to allow the Caldari to take the system, then win it back from them at great expense to secure popularity among the Intaki to avoid them exercising the revolution that, if had been successful, meant they wouldn't... err, have gotten invaded in the first place?
I'm sorry, Nederland, does Lai Dai have access to some sort of powerful psychadelic hallucinogen that isn't available on the open market? If so, I want some. Either that or they've developed a method of recto-cranial inversion at least 50% more effective than the current leading brand.
Originally by: Dex Nederland Let the Gallente have Intaki back; the Intaki don't want to unite together and have their homeworld out from under foreign dominated neglect.
"WAAAAAAAH! THE INTAKI AREN'T MAKING THE CHOICE I WANT THEM TO MAKE!" ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2009.03.21 22:57:00 -
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Good to see CAIN's continued success, it might be worth considering what miss Cosmo mentioned though, it'd be nice to see some Intaki members of the State joining CAIN's ranks, especially with the sour feelings some of the separatists likely feel over the recent events, even though in the end it will show to have been the start of a new age for them where they gain the same independence and success we have enjoyed.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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