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Grottle
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Posted - 2009.03.23 00:50:00 -
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I have been running missions in lowsec most of the time. When I tell people in local what I am doing they seem surprised. Why is this? Why do players think it odd that I run mission in low sec?
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Sasha Kiki
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Posted - 2009.03.23 00:54:00 -
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Too many asshats camp in lowsec at gates and such.
Maybe you just have a quiet system.
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ArmyOfMe
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:10:00 -
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doing missions in low sec can at times be a bit of a pain, but so freaking worth it in the end
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:20:00 -
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Troll?
Because it takes 30 seconds to scan you down currently (though on SiSi deeps are nerfed, not that it makes any difference if it takes 30 or 230 seconds, you'll still be in your mission) and a PvE ship is dead meat against a PvP ship, not that this matters either, as the pie is going to make sure he wins before he engages in any case.
Also, what lvl missions are you running?
I used to do lvl 2's and 3s in lowsec, but would never do lvl 4s, unless I cherrypicked and just blitzed the quick ones. Then again, CCP have removed some of the blitzing options so there's not as much left of that either.
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zigboyd
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:24:00 -
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Got blown up in .4 today. Didnt even know what hit me because i wasnt paying attention when some guy warped in. Luckily for me i was in my caracal so i just laughed it off.
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Cendaliaa
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:24:00 -
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OP must be a troll or very stupid. |
Astriell
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:25:00 -
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Umm because people don't want to get attacked by pirates during a mission.
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.03.23 04:57:00 -
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Low sec missions are great, but you gotta get off the border systems. Either stay in high sec or go in deep low sec. The border between the two is really the only high danger area.
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 07:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Cendaliaa
OP must be a troll or very stupid.
This.
The "problem" with low-sec mission running is that the very slightly increased bounties/LP doesn't offset the risk. You could run 10 missions in low-sec without incident and on the 10th one get blown up costing you tens or hundreds of millions of ISK.
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Azirapheal
Amarr
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Azirapheal on 23/03/2009 10:37:19
Originally by: Cendaliaa
OP must be a troll or very stupid.
why? i mission run in lowsec when im not killing people. the rewards are better than highsex
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The "problem" with low-sec mission running is that the very slightly increased bounties/LP doesn't offset the risk. You could run 10 missions in low-sec without incident and on the 10th one get blown up costing you tens or hundreds of millions of ISK.
never had this scenario... but then mission ships/fits are usually insued t1 hulls with named weaponry. if your not clever enough to watch local and keep on the scans...
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Flinchey
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.23 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar
Low sec missions are great, but you gotta get off the border systems. Either stay in high sec or go in deep low sec. The border between the two is really the only high danger area.
i've been ganked more in deep lowsec.. i guess cos in the border system my corp lives... so everyone is afraid to go you cos they'll get wiped off the sky...
lots of 2 man HAC fleets i've seen about 10-20 jumps off.
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cendaliaa
OP must be a troll or very stupid.
He's just a pirate trying to entice more mission runners into low sec :) |
Alticus Maximus
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:15:00 -
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lowsec earns 10k lp per mission, and all you have to do is watch the local or choose an empty system.
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Cendaliaa
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel
The "problem" with low-sec mission running is that the very slightly increased bounties/LP doesn't offset the risk. You could run 10 missions in low-sec without incident and on the 10th one get blown up costing you tens or hundreds of millions of ISK.
guess you dont really know what the "problem" is, fighting rats and players tends to make things alot more difficulty, maybe that slipped your mind. |
Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Grottle
I have been running missions in lowsec most of the time. When I tell people in local what I am doing they seem surprised. Why is this? Why do players think it odd that I run mission in low sec?
Because people are too lazy to follow proper precautions in lowsec. As a result they get blown up and conclude that missions cannot be done in lowsec, whereas had they taken some simple steps (you all know them, watch local, keep aligned, etc.), they would almost never have a problem.
He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things. |
Asham Pozor
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:44:00 -
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I fly L4 missions in low sec almost exclusively except when I go for standings since, ummm, 2006 or so. I've lost a single mission Domi so far, and that was because I was tired and did not pay attention to the lone frigate sitting on a gate.
It doesn't really pay off though. You get slightly better payment and LP, but you constantly need to be on the lookout for probes (not sure yet how things turn out with the new probes), need to decline a lot of missions and dock up as soon as anything fishy happens.
This will of course utterly ruin the ISK/hour ratio.
The pro is that there is almost no lag, and I don't run THAT many missions so the occasional ganker flying through does not matter much.
Find a good system off the beaten tracks, get some people together who are willing to form a fleet and hunt intruders, and you're set.
Is it worth it? From an ISK/houir PoV I doubt it. But it's more fun.
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Grottle
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cendaliaa
OP must be a troll or very stupid.
I am certainly not a troll. And although I may be stupid after over 100 missions over the last month low-sec I have yet to loose a ship while doing a mission. I died once when I decided to attack a pirate to see what happened, once early on when I listened a pirate wanting me to help him with a mission (I thought it was going to end badly but I thought what the heck) and once when doing some ratting. Never on a mission.
On the plus side I live a little bit more on the edge... equip my ship with PvP gear (makes PvE more interesting) and I think I enjoy it more. I can't imagine anything more boring to spend my time flying around high-sec completing the same boring missions time and again. If you never get blown up what is the point of the game. Yet I seem to be almost alone in this.
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Grottle
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Astriell
Umm because people don't want to get attacked by pirates during a mission.
Ooo scary pirates. Nothing wrecks a space combat game more then having some space combat.
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Grottle
Originally by: Astriell
Umm because people don't want to get attacked by pirates during a mission.
Ooo scary pirates. Nothing wrecks a space combat game more then having some space combat.
Yeah well if your goal with missions is to make money, then engaging pirates is stupid since your mission-running-money-making ship ain't competitive for pvp.
Low sec distractions definitely reduce your ISK+LP per hour, it's not worth the extra effort. |
Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Azirapheal
the rewards are better than highsex
Calling BS on this.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Grottle
If you never get blown up what is the point of the game. Yet I seem to be almost alone in this.
The point is to blow others up, not get blown up, you're doing it wrong. |
Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Grottle
I can't imagine anything more boring to spend my time flying around high-sec completing the same boring missions time and again. If you never get blown up what is the point of the game. Yet I seem to be almost alone in this.
Most hard-core mission runners do it to finance other activities. As such, mission running has to be as profitable as possible, which means low risk and high efficiency. Low risk means the lowest possible hisec with the highest possible agent quality, and high efficiency means a ship with mods that allow a player to complete a mission as fast as possible, and to grab the best loot/salvage as fast as possible. It's basically a grab-n-go. Anything that takes away from that defeats the purpose of mission-running. Missioning in losec goes against that philosophy in many ways, so most people don't do it.
Things such as watching out for in-system pirates, having to warp out to safe spots while in missions, losing a mission ship, and fitting your ship with PvP modules all take away from the rewards you might get by running missions in losec. Mission-running for profit is a grind and an in-game job of sorts, so it's not always fun, but the ends justify the means in this case.
Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. |
Zarroh
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:08:00 -
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Putting Locator services on Grottle. You will have the answer to your question shortly... 
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Andre Marconius
Gallente
House Of Troy
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:10:00 -
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Missioning in low-sec is great, IF you know where to do it. Done hundreds of missions in low-sec and I have only been scanned down once and that was only because I wasn't watching local.
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Tasko Pal
THE IRIS
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.23 18:58:00 -
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It's been implied, but I haven't seen this directly mentioned. In high sec, you can fit hundreds of millions of isk in gear to your ship, greatly improving your isk per hour. You can also run multiple alts at little risk. I strongly doubt running four alts in low sec is viable, but that's something you can do in high sec missioning.
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Boknamar
Gallente
The Knights Trevor
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:52:00 -
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To be successful with low sec mission running, you need to constantly be doing directional scans as long as there are others in local. Periodically refreshing the scanner several times a minute has always been annoying, but now that column sorting seems to get wiped out with each new scan, it has become incredibly aggravating.
I really hope it gets fixed soon.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 21:02:00 -
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I have no idea why people seem surprised, all the mission runners i know are low sec/null sec mission runners. Low sec isn't nearly as bad as people on the forums would have you believe.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.03.24 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
I have no idea why people seem surprised, all the mission runners i know are low sec/null sec mission runners. Low sec isn't nearly as bad as people on the forums would have you believe.
you are right, lowsec is worse than the people on the forums make it out to be.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.03.24 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Grottle
I have been running missions in lowsec most of the time. When I tell people in local what I am doing they seem surprised. Why is this? Why do players think it odd that I run mission in low sec?
This is considered odd bcos you get better isk/h in both hi sec and out in 0.0. Ie - want no pvp in pimped mission ride - hi sec ... are already using affordable setup and willing to take on pvp - zerozero.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2009.03.24 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Grottle
I have been running missions in lowsec most of the time. When I tell people in local what I am doing they seem surprised. Why is this? Why do players think it odd that I run mission in low sec?
You answer you own question. By every missioner you find in a system will find 10 pvp'ers wanting to crash your ship. If you go to mission in low-sec, it's only for get more LP's from the lvl5.
And clicking the directional scanner 2-3 times in a minute it's simply annoying.
And the empty systems in low-sec are the same that supply-demand: if someone discovers one, won't late too much until the pirates come.
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