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Culmen Culmenation 55	Posted - 2012.05.02 23:28:00 - [1] - Quote Ok looks like the ships, items and cargo hold windows have all been merged into a single window. I like this in theory, but I would prefer if there were a way to have multiple inventory windows open at once. Its an additional hassle if you want to transfer a fit from one ship to another. Maybe do something like the show info tabs are now. There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
Drew Solaert University of Caille Gallente Federation 150	Posted - 2012.05.02 23:36:00 - [2] - Quote I absolutely love it. It's the custom filters that have me sold. I lied :o
Culmen Culmenation 55	Posted - 2012.05.02 23:43:00 - [3] - Quote Drew Solaert wrote: I absolutely love it. It's the custom filters that have me sold. I like that feature too. Just want to have a ship window, a hanger window, and multiple cargo hold windows open at once. All of which can have the custom filters and quick navigation tab. There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
mxzf Shovel Bros 1487	Posted - 2012.05.02 23:46:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah, I'm still trying to decide if I like it or not. I did discover that you can shift+click (or right click and pick the option) to pop a window out and separate it. I'm still not sure if I'm sold yet though.
Culmen Culmenation 55	Posted - 2012.05.02 23:50:00 - [5] - Quote mxzf wrote: Yeah, I'm still trying to decide if I like it or not. I did discover that you can shift+click (or right click and pick the option) to pop a window out and separate it. I'm still not sure if I'm sold yet though. Yeah just discovered that little functionality too. Thing is, I usually run with a hanger floor and ship selection window open when I'm in station Its nice having that thing instantly there when i dock, without clicking. It's now a annoyance rather than a major annoyance. There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
Spc One The Chodak Void Alliance 28	Posted - 2012.05.02 23:54:00 - [6] - Quote It's very confusing finding my ships is a pain in the a**. Also draging items from one windows to another doesn't really work. I prefer old style, but with filters.
Freyja Asynjur Folkvangr 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:12:00 - [7] - Quote Come on, give it 5 minutes and the confusion is gone. There's a lot of awesome little things in it. Only drawback for me is that the window in "compact mode" (with the sidebar hidden) is larger than the old one ( 30 more pixels lost to windows!). It's also seems to be a bit messy when saving the kind of view you want (icons, text), as all inventory windows seem to get that style after docking.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 693	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:15:00 - [8] - Quote i really like it. However the main usability problem is: - open multiple windows while docked - undock - all windows are now cargo windows so you can't replicate old behavior with the new feature. There should be a way to tell the window to stay open only while docked and others only when in space. Looting stuff is also more work as before IMO. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked
Culmen Culmenation 56	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:25:00 - [9] - Quote Just noticed. The right click ship -> open fuel bay command is gone. Bad form. There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
Kyoko Sakoda Veto. Veto Corp 79	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:31:00 - [10] - Quote Overall I like the direction. However, it would be more useful if: Ships, Items, and your Active Ship icons on the side panel were larger or clearer to discern than the rest of the icons in the panel. This facilitates quicker access to root directories and dragging items. A double click should be the same as a shift-click in the side panel. Breadcrumbs should be clickable; below the title bar.
Silly Slot Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 1	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:34:00 - [11] - Quote LOVE THIS JUST LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!!!!!!! AND ITS SOOOO FAST btw guys for those that like to see where there dropping things just drag it and hold it over the active ship for a second for instance it works fine... CCP where is the universal search that was shown in screenshots from fanfest not coming in inferno!??!?! dont make me cry that was SEXY!
mxzf Shovel Bros 1490	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:43:00 - [12] - Quote Bienator II wrote: i really like it. However the main usability problem is: - open multiple windows while docked - undock - all windows are now cargo windows so you can't replicate old behavior with the new feature. There should be a way to tell the window to stay open only while docked and others only when in space. Looting stuff is also more work as before IMO. This is my issue too. It seems to refuse to allow you to do anything but have one window for everything. I do like the look of it, it looks really slick and all, but I worry that it's at the expense of functionality (especially since it should be possible to retain much of the old functionality if done right). I'm still on the fence about it. It looks nice, but it has become less functional for how I want to use the inventory. Also, @Culmen, the Open Fuel bay is gone (as with open corp hangers and open drone bay and so forth) because it's now a nested storage inside the ship itself.
Culmen Culmenation 57	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:54:00 - [13] - Quote mxzf wrote: I'm still on the fence about it. It looks nice, but it has become less functional for how I want to use the inventory. Also, @Culmen, the Open Fuel bay is gone (as with open corp hangers and open drone bay and so forth) because it's now a nested storage inside the ship itself. I realized that, but it's still some needless functionality loss. The drone bay thing is particularly irksome, since you know have to navigate the cargo hold interface, if you want to change drone types for a mission. There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
im mrmessy SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.05.03 01:44:00 - [14] - Quote If the inventory screen worked the same as the current corp hanger, there would be no problem. the problem is that the window is needlessly complex
Silly Slot Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 1	Posted - 2012.05.03 01:50:00 - [15] - Quote double click to open in new window is missing thats for sure... other than that its missing a REMEMBER STATE, when i undock it should save my docked state of my inventory windows, and close all but 1 of them for when im in space.... That said when i dock again it should remember my "space state" so that my nice small cargo window i have setup for my own cargo will be there when i undock again and not the big inventory window... Implement the above changes and i believe most people will be estatic.
Silly Slot Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 1	Posted - 2012.05.03 01:50:00 - [16] - Quote im mrmessy wrote: If the inventory screen worked the same as the current corp hanger, there would be no problem. the problem is that the window is needlessly complex its not more complex, its just different.. the issue is the handling of the secondary windows (see my post above) Culmen wrote: I realized that, but it's still some needless functionality loss. The drone bay thing is particularly irksome, since you know have to navigate the cargo hold interface, if you want to change drone types for a mission. ya they really should bring back the shortcuts, just have it popup a minimum inventory window no sidebar of the designated location, fuel/corp/drones ... that would solve that issue, old functionality, with new inventory management features, with just some smart shortcuts in the right click menu
OptimuzPR Oblivious Elements Collide WALLTREIPERS ALLIANCE 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 02:42:00 - [17] - Quote Silly Slot wrote: double click to open in new window is missing thats for sure... other than that its missing a REMEMBER STATE, when i undock it should save my docked state of my inventory windows, and close all but 1 of them for when im in space.... That said when i dock again it should remember my "space state" so that my nice small cargo window i have setup for my own cargo will be there when i undock again and not the big inventory window... Implement the above changes and i believe most people will be estatic. THIS! Thank you.
Orlacc Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 133	Posted - 2012.05.03 04:19:00 - [18] - Quote I miss the "ships" icon unless I am missing it. Don't want the extra step of opening inventory.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 736	Posted - 2012.05.03 05:02:00 - [19] - Quote Sorry. I've been a programmer/user/everything IT since 1981, and this new Inventory Window is the most unintuative piece of junk I have yet encountered outside of a DOS box. I am very used to plunging into new systems and screens and functions at the drop of a hat. It was my job. Well, you guys have finally thrown me for a loop. This is adding unnecessary complication where absolutely none was needed. Its a parade of switching windows with none of the simple operability of the original. I spent 20 minutes with it and really am still having a difficult time getting things set up and doing what I want...and then maintaining their state. Having to close windows in order to get to functions that open what I want. WAY too esoteric to explain in a thread what I am going through here, and I have followed the information gleaned from all of these posts. I would have to show you in person what I mean. And that is not correct at all. This is truly not a system I am comfortable with. I'm for change, not complication. Again, I am even further convinced that the folks developing all this new UI stuff DO NOT PLAY THE GAME. You will never convince me that they do now especially. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Tarn Kugisa Space Mongolian Pinked 75	Posted - 2012.05.03 05:37:00 - [20] - Quote It makes things streamlined, I like it alot I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url]
Janosik Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 05:48:00 - [21] - Quote I dont like it. I dont see my ships, i just see names, and i forgot how i named my ships, which one is which one, it is confusing me. And i dont want to name ship bomber, cruiser etc. Icons are better. I always have at least two windows open, one with hangar one with cargo, moving items, doing this in this new ui will be longer than in old one. This new thing can be feature on old ui, and one that i can hide.
AnzacPaul Invictus Australis Northern Coalition. 104	Posted - 2012.05.03 06:26:00 - [22] - Quote Why cant i open my ship maintenance or fuel bay via right click anymore? Loss of functionality by forcing people to use another method is not cool mmkay.
Blazedart The Deadly Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 06:41:00 - [23] - Quote I completely hate this change. please give me multiple windows back so its not complicated and difficult to fit my ships together. so that i can look at all my assets at once, separated by ships and items. And now when im undocked and i have my cargohold open i have this ugly massive box taking up a massive amount of screen realistate.
Malice Redeemer Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 07:26:00 - [24] - Quote I also do not like this change. Give me my Ship and items hangers back and put this somewhere else, it's confusing.
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2012.05.03 08:00:00 - [25] - Quote It would be great to see which ship is behind the funny names I now see in my hangar. Could you set the name of the ship in front of the name the player gave it? Example: Thorax (name)
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 53	Posted - 2012.05.03 08:43:00 - [26] - Quote I dont mind it , but please bring back the ships and items buttons that used to be above the undock, or at least give us the option to add/remove them. Tal
July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2012.05.03 09:08:00 - [27] - Quote OMG, I just realized, that in space, if you loot a wreck, your inventory pops up and if you change its size and position you have to change it back in station. This is awful!
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 744	Posted - 2012.05.03 13:01:00 - [28] - Quote Can we have some assurance that this thread will be looked at by Devs and not disappeared-ed ? "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Just Alter Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 84	Posted - 2012.05.03 13:35:00 - [29] - Quote I love it! Great work! It could be tweaked a bit, as this thread is pointing, but overall it's a definite improvement over the old system.
Silly Slot Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 8	Posted - 2012.05.03 14:17:00 - [30] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Sorry. lol dude its not unintuitive its just rough, its very sexy, and if they add the universal search it will be FRIGGING EPIC... what missing is the tuning, namely the frigging ability to remember states when docked and undocked seperately... THAT AND THE OTHER BIG PROBLEM We need the shortcuts back.... Open fuel bay, Open Corp Hanger, Open Drone Bay, Open Cargo, should be a shortcut to the minimal eve inventory of that window... Do this and you'll make sooooooo many people happy, that way the big inventory is there for when we want it but the shortcuts in right click are there to get us to the small window when thats all we want! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE did i say PLEASE, shortcuts and remembering states = happy item inventory users

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