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xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:05:00 -
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Can someone give me a list of ships that a competently flown T2 fit Taranis can usually take out?
Ideally, please list them in order of easiest to kill to hardest.
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Gen Eisenhower
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:20:00 -
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It's not only about how competent the ranis pilot is but also how competent the other guy is. It's not always easy to determine.
The other guy might be from 2006 but he might have exhumers 5 or such, and barely any idea about pvp. Or it can be a few months old guy who knows what he is doing.
There is always a risk, and that makes it exciting.
A competent ranis kills a nab bs.
A competent ranis can be killed by a more competent rifter.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:31:00 -
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God, I remember back in the day, a vid of a blaster rannis taking down a poorly fit domi...took forever, but the comments were awesome. ----------------- Friends Forever |

xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gen Eisenhower It's not only about how competent the ranis pilot is but also how competent the other guy is. It's not always easy to determine.
The other guy might be from 2006 but he might have exhumers 5 or such, and barely any idea about pvp. Or it can be a few months old guy who knows what he is doing.
There is always a risk, and that makes it exciting.
A competent ranis kills a nab bs.
A competent ranis can be killed by a more competent rifter.
Yea dude, I have been playing for years, you didnt really say *anything*.
How about more specific, like, "Be careful of arbitrators"
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:38:00 -
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Since you have been playing for years, you already know the answer to this question. A Ranis can kill anything, theoretically.
Beware of drones, EAFs and Recons, nos/neut ... all the stuff any interceptor pilot should.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Gen Eisenhower It's not only about how competent the ranis pilot is but also how competent the other guy is. It's not always easy to determine.
The other guy might be from 2006 but he might have exhumers 5 or such, and barely any idea about pvp. Or it can be a few months old guy who knows what he is doing.
There is always a risk, and that makes it exciting.
A competent ranis kills a nab bs.
A competent ranis can be killed by a more competent rifter.
Yea dude, I have been playing for years, you didnt really say *anything*.
How about more specific, like, "Be careful of arbitrators"
Be careful of arbitrators.
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Panzram
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.09 16:23:00 -
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Easiest would probably be Curses/Pilgrims. Id hunt those exclusively.
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Misina Arlath
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.09 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Panzram Easiest would probably be Curses/Pilgrims. Id hunt those exclusively.
Confirming that Curse/Pilgrim are the easiest kills for a 'ranis. -------------------------------------------------- "Every complex problem has a solution which is easy, neat and wrong!" |

Er Keb
Xenobytes Stain Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.09 17:22:00 -
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3 years ago, a t2 fitted taranis could take out a dread =)
http://www.a-kills.com/details.php?id=35333
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Misaniovent
Allied Tactical Squadron
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Posted - 2009.04.09 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Gen Eisenhower It's not only about how competent the ranis pilot is but also how competent the other guy is. It's not always easy to determine.
The other guy might be from 2006 but he might have exhumers 5 or such, and barely any idea about pvp. Or it can be a few months old guy who knows what he is doing.
There is always a risk, and that makes it exciting.
A competent ranis kills a nab bs.
A competent ranis can be killed by a more competent rifter.
Yea dude, I have been playing for years, you didnt really say *anything*.
How about more specific, like, "Be careful of arbitrators"
I thought this was the best advice you could possibly get. Go figure.
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fkingfurious
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Posted - 2009.04.09 18:42:00 -
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Stop being a *****.
Get a taranis and go out and get some experience and figure out for yourself what you can fight.
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel. The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:19:00 -
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What you can kill is way more dependant on the pilot than the ship they are flying.
You can easily kill a stupidly flown and fit battleship.
You will easily die to a well flown and fit Rifter, ----- The Python Cartel Is Recruiting! - My Pirate Blog |

Diomidis
Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.09 21:11:00 -
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U can kill many drone-less cruisers/hacs without missiles...
Say Zealots for example, are doomed if you manage to scram them. Muninns can be "done" if you are competent enough to take out their drones fast enough etc... Eagles would be troubled should you come close etc...
Scrams, webs, etc are not your friends, and you are not the only one carrying them. Neuts aren't either, but you can "counter" those a bit with a NOS once in range...
In general most frig sized vessels have way less DPS, or way less EHP or both. So usually T1 frigates are doomed, unless specifically fitted to slow you down for a friend near by.
Many poorly fitted ASs can go down, just like EAFs...Practically you are afraid of Sentinels - a bit...i have both killed and been killed in sentinels by ranises with similar fits...it's situational up to a certain point you really know how and when to engage while having and advantage. ASs in general have more than 2x your EHP and similar DPS so potent AS pilots are NOT sth you should go up against: I would stay away of Harpies, gallente ASs, and Minmatar ASs...unless you are up against an artie jag or sth, chances of you getting away are slim on paper.
Widely used PvP Cruisers can be dangerous, as those pack most the "bad things" above: scrams / webs / drones / neuts... So PvP ruptures, Thoraxes, Arbis, Vexors, even Caracals can be dangerous. For Stabbers I thing it's situational, tho you should have the upper hand in general.
SBs should not engage you unless you are AFK...
You have a slight chance against most dictors - but not the average Sabre...
Most BSs cannot threat you directly, unless they have small drones and webs combo. Heavy Neuts are countered with small noses effectively due to their slow cycle vs. the small nos's fast one...you will get cap both to scram and fire ur guns, which is enough to help u go forever once there are no drones around. Off course Disco-BSs are any ceptor's nemesis. Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game! |

Thenoran
Caldari Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.09 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Panzram Easiest would probably be Curses/Pilgrims. Id hunt those exclusively.
How so? Aren't drone boats potentially dangerous due to Warrior IIs? Assuming they got a good flight of Warrior IIs (I'd bring 10) which are managed a bit, wouldn't they take the guy down eventually? Warrior II hit over 6000m/s, which not even a Taranis can break now unless you're talking expensive implants and pure speed rig. I could be wrong ofcourse, just curious how a Taranis would fare against properly managed 5xWarrior II drones. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Panzram Easiest would probably be Curses/Pilgrims. Id hunt those exclusively.
How so? Aren't drone boats potentially dangerous due to Warrior IIs? Assuming they got a good flight of Warrior IIs (I'd bring 10) which are managed a bit, wouldn't they take the guy down eventually? Warrior II hit over 6000m/s, which not even a Taranis can break now unless you're talking expensive implants and pure speed rig. I could be wrong ofcourse, just curious how a Taranis would fare against properly managed 5xWarrior II drones.
They're giving him misinformation because of his poor attitude and rudeness.
As you surmise a curse/pilgrim is the last thing he'd want to go looking for since it could shut down his MWD/tackle/guns and eat him with drones before you could say "playing for years".
In fact, since the general MO is to use the MWD to close range and then to orbit point blank without it you tend to be vulnerable to well skilled medium drones as well.
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Thenoran
Caldari Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain Edited by: TraininVain on 09/04/2009 22:07:24
Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Panzram Easiest would probably be Curses/Pilgrims. Id hunt those exclusively.
How so? Aren't drone boats potentially dangerous due to Warrior IIs? Assuming they got a good flight of Warrior IIs (I'd bring 10) which are managed a bit, wouldn't they take the guy down eventually? Warrior II hit over 6000m/s, which not even a Taranis can break now unless you're talking expensive implants and pure speed rig. I could be wrong ofcourse, just curious how a Taranis would fare against properly managed 5xWarrior II drones.
They're giving him misinformation because of his poor attitude and rudeness.
As you surmise a curse/pilgrim is the last thing he'd want to go looking for since it could shut down his MWD/tackle/guns and eat him with drones before you could say "playing for years". A rapier would also not be fun times, nor an arazu with scrams.
In fact, since the general MO is to use the MWD to close range and then to orbit point blank without it you tend to be vulnerable to well skilled medium drones as well.
Pilgrim can't reach out to 24km with its NOS/Neuts though. Warrior IIs would still wtfpwn the Taranis though. I wonder if five light Neut drones would have any purpose... ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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Ulasim
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: TraininVain Edited by: TraininVain on 09/04/2009 22:07:24
Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Panzram Easiest would probably be Curses/Pilgrims. Id hunt those exclusively.
How so? Aren't drone boats potentially dangerous due to Warrior IIs? Assuming they got a good flight of Warrior IIs (I'd bring 10) which are managed a bit, wouldn't they take the guy down eventually? Warrior II hit over 6000m/s, which not even a Taranis can break now unless you're talking expensive implants and pure speed rig. I could be wrong ofcourse, just curious how a Taranis would fare against properly managed 5xWarrior II drones.
They're giving him misinformation because of his poor attitude and rudeness.
As you surmise a curse/pilgrim is the last thing he'd want to go looking for since it could shut down his MWD/tackle/guns and eat him with drones before you could say "playing for years". A rapier would also not be fun times, nor an arazu with scrams.
In fact, since the general MO is to use the MWD to close range and then to orbit point blank without it you tend to be vulnerable to well skilled medium drones as well.
Pilgrim can't reach out to 24km with its NOS/Neuts though. Warrior IIs would still wtfpwn the Taranis though. I wonder if five light Neut drones would have any purpose...
It can reach out to something like 37km
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Mykpilot
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Mykpilot on 09/04/2009 22:42:20
Originally by: fkingfurious Stop being a *****.
Get a taranis and go out and get some experience and figure out for yourself what you can fight.
Really? C'mon, thats not the best advise you could of given, now is it. While first hand experience is the best experience is often the most costly. A combination of established knowledge and personal experience will serve anyone much better then just going in blind until they figure out through trial and error.
This particular thread is the stuff I find most interesting as the why's Taranis can or can't beat a ship in a certain loadout will often save time, provide insight into solutions that can also extended beyond the ships in question.
The best way to solve this would be to start with a list of all the ship categories that it beats regardless of their loadout, list all the ships then that it can't beat regardless of loadout. When I say regardless of loadout, I mean within reason, it would have to properly fitted (no ships leaving the dock without modules).
From there you can look at the ships that it beats and ask why? Find patterns to form the strengths of the ship. Look at the ships it loses to and ask why? Again, find patterns to form the weakness to the ship. Then look at the match ups that debateable or aren't certain and look for common traits among these ships and see you can make connections to the weaknesses and strengths.
I know this doesn't answer the question at all and don't have time to start a basic list but I was taking a break from reading and went on a tangent and now my time is up. Back to studying!
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Thenoran
Caldari Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ulasim
Originally by: Thenoran
Pilgrim can't reach out to 24km with its NOS/Neuts though. Warrior IIs would still wtfpwn the Taranis though. I wonder if five light Neut drones would have any purpose...
It can reach out to something like 37km
Think you're confusing the Curse with the Pilgrim. The Pilgrim has a Covert Ops cloak, the Curse has the 40% range bonus. Unless EFT, EVE and the Item Database are playing with my head, oh noes. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:45:00 -
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For the love of god, stop posting.
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ulasim
Originally by: Thenoran
Pilgrim can't reach out to 24km
It can reach out to something like 37km
It can reach 12 without using faction and what not. You're a ***. L2P. sXe |

Mykpilot
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353 What you can kill is way more dependant on the pilot than the ship they are flying.
You can easily kill a stupidly flown and fit battleship.
You will easily die to a well flown and fit Rifter,
With this type of discussion you have to assume that other than the ships everything is equal. Meaning the pilots in the ships have the same "flying skill" corresponding to the ship type. This isn't a twitch game like Quake 3 or Counter-strike source but more like a strategy game where given a scenario with a limited number of varibles and everything else fixed, you can come to the conclusion of a outcome with a good level of certainty.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.09 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mykpilot
Originally by: Spectre3353 What you can kill is way more dependant on the pilot than the ship they are flying.
You can easily kill a stupidly flown and fit battleship.
You will easily die to a well flown and fit Rifter,
With this type of discussion you have to assume that other than the ships everything is equal. Meaning the pilots in the ships have the same "flying skill" corresponding to the ship type. This isn't a twitch game like Quake 3 or Counter-strike source but more like a strategy game where given a scenario with a limited number of varibles and everything else fixed, you can come to the conclusion of a outcome with a good level of certainty.
Not really.
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Mykpilot
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Posted - 2009.04.09 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain
Originally by: Mykpilot
Originally by: Spectre3353 What you can kill is way more dependant on the pilot than the ship they are flying.
You can easily kill a stupidly flown and fit battleship.
You will easily die to a well flown and fit Rifter,
With this type of discussion you have to assume that other than the ships everything is equal. Meaning the pilots in the ships have the same "flying skill" corresponding to the ship type. This isn't a twitch game like Quake 3 or Counter-strike source but more like a strategy game where given a scenario with a limited number of varibles and everything else fixed, you can come to the conclusion of a outcome with a good level of certainty.
Not really.
Not really, what?
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Raxlar Kalimar
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Posted - 2009.04.11 21:58:00 -
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Go out and try to kill things. IMHO the glory lies in killing the stuff that you would not normally expect to kill not the stuff you are certain to kill. Loads of people on this forum miss the point in this respect. If you want garanteed kills attack noobships and forget anything else.
People have given the Rifter as an example. To be honest if you fly a cookie cutter Rannis you will own the cookie cutter Rifter setups. But what have you really acheived in doing this? Will it get you any respect for killing a t1 frig? I doubt it.
However should you come across me in my anti-interceptor fitted Rifter. I will play dumb, make it look like I am trying to get away, ill make an 'error' and you will catch me. But once you agress, your fait will be sealed and I WILL KILL YOU!<---Pleople will dissagree with this statement but thats ok because if they did not I would have no targets...its when they aren't using the cookie cutter setup that it gets interesting.
The point of all this is that even though there are many viable setups for any given ship. Most people are not that imagenative and will use the same setup that everyone else uses. Learn those setups and don't ask yourself which ships you can win against think more in terms of the entire package and then then about how to counter it.
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.15 16:28:00 -
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might be hard to take down a stab fitted drake since it doesnt have any special fit that does 600 DPS per second. ---
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Major Buttache
Coded Arms Coded Arms Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.15 16:28:00 -
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I love xxxak poasts.
He has being 'playing for years', I presume some other game than EvE, then suddenly hes all over eve-o providing lulz and hopefully massive cringe-worthy moments for his corp.
I'm guessing e-bay.
Nvar stop poasting! 
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FOl2TY8
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.04.15 16:44:00 -
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Itty II's can be easily taken down by a ranis. Also impairor's and the osprey make easy targets.
I also think the OP should never stop posting... ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |

Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.15 16:57:00 -
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you can be killed by everything and you can kill everything.
With a ship like the taranis pilot skill is incredibly important, if you make a mistake you die. Because it has litle to no tanking abillities , doesn't deal enough dps to really gank anything bigger as a frigate and if your transversal speed gets around 0 while running an mwd your toast against a gun boat. (your a stationairy target the size of a station ..)
Ships you want to be very afraid of , curse , pilgrim , caracals/drakes/cerbs , sacriliges.
You can take down a rapier or hugin in a taranis, you just have to get in range before you get webbed to death. If your at a tight orbit and scram/web the rapier your faster as it without your mwd running , and it can't track you. So its basically toast. they stole my sig :'( |

Gno Chalynn
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Posted - 2009.04.15 17:05:00 -
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Well ok, since you want a basic list of ships you can kill in a ranis, from easiest to hardest, here is my list: 1. Pod, 2. Shuttle 3. Noob ship, 4. Industrial, 5. Level 1 or 2 frigate, 6. Small mining barge (beware of drones) 7. Another interceptor 8. Covert ops, 9. Stealth bomber 10. ?
This also assumes that the other ship pilot has the basic skills to fit his ship properly for pvp/0.0 space. You can kill a mining cruiser, maybe a poorly fit BC/BS if you have the cargo capacity to carry enough ammo. But as the other posters have said, get your ranis out into 0.0 space and start targeting the smaller ships and get some pvp time in. You will soon learn what ships you can kill and which ships can kill you.
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.15 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8 Itty II's can be easily taken down by a ranis.
what about Itty III~V? ---
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.04.15 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak
Yea dude, I have been playing for years, you didnt really say *anything*.
How about more specific, like, "Be careful of arbitrators"
You've been playing for years but have no idea what you could take down in a taranis?
In that case I'd say noobships and industrials, but be careful of t1 frigates or battlebadgers 
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Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.04.15 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak Can someone give me a list of ships that a competently flown T2 fit Taranis can usually take out?
Anything I take out of a station.
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Korrakas
Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.04.15 22:16:00 -
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something that cant do 600 DPS a second or is used for combat patrols   
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Raxlar Kalimar
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Posted - 2009.04.15 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Korrakas something that cant do 600 DPS a second or is used for combat patrols   
Ok I am going to be lame and ask what the rate of change of DPS with respect to time has to do with anthing?
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.04.16 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 16/04/2009 00:00:30 I took out an active-tanking blackbird solo yesterday, granted, it was a horrible fit from an awful corporation, but that's another to the list I guess. Edit: it had a blaster too!
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.16 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Raxlar Kalimar
Originally by: Korrakas something that cant do 600 DPS a second or is used for combat patrols   
Ok I am going to be lame and ask what the rate of change of DPS with respect to time has to do with anthing?
only a ship with special fit that does over 600DPS a second can take down a stab-fitted drake in a combat patrol operation. ---
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.04.16 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong
Originally by: Raxlar Kalimar
Originally by: Korrakas something that cant do 600 DPS a second or is used for combat patrols   
Ok I am going to be lame and ask what the rate of change of DPS with respect to time has to do with anthing?
only a ship with special fit that does over 600DPS a second can take down a stab-fitted drake in a combat patrol operation.
I won't be ratting in that guys home.
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Raxlar Kalimar
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Posted - 2009.04.16 01:38:00 -
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lol...Never mind I think my last comment went all over your heads.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.16 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Raxlar Kalimar lol...Never mind I think my last comment went all over your heads.
Nah, it was just recycled from the other thread.
- What I fear most in a Ranis = Other Ranises, as I usually fit for anti-anticeptor (As I hate losing to those fadfit anticeptor T1 frigs) and I'm gimped in a Ranis vs Ranis fight. Amarr and Minnie Recons. Closerange AFs, especially Ishkur and Enyo, closerange dessies, esp blatalyst and ac trasher (tho not too common). Arbi. Vexor. neutdomi/ Myrm. Cerb. Etc...
Many of these I might engage though, you never know... ---
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Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 09:12:00 -
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taranis can not kill
destroyer interdictor
falcon scorpion curse
drake
ships with big smart bombs
anything else there is a chance, interceptors often hold the target in place until support arrives.
It's hard to imagine a lonely target without support
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.16 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Opertone taranis can not kill
destroyer
falcon
I highly disagree with these 2 and have the KMs to prove it... Dependant on fitting and the situation really. For a falcon you ofc need to fit ECCM. ---
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Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 09:33:00 -
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falcons aren't invincible, but they have a chance not to uncloak in the first place if we consider a 1 vs 1 fight
I take your point
I think that destroyers can have HP, DPS and tracking advantage over interceptors with close range guns. It becomes more a matter of chance and precision.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.16 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Opertone
I think that destroyers can have HP, DPS and tracking advantage over interceptors with close range guns. It becomes more a matter of chance and precision.
Indeed, I don't wanna try out a gank/tank Blaster catalyst like I said earlier... But in the FW areas where i live, most dessies seem to fit long range. Though even with a blaster catalyst, orbiting at 500 with an AB the ranis might actually win due to sig differences. I don't know tbh and don't want to (intentionally) take the chance. :P ---
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.16 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 16/04/2009 11:32:44 Long range dessies will probably get a single glancing hit on you on the way in and then they're done (unless you do something really daft).
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 16/04/2009 12:56:39
Originally by: Korrakas something that cant do 600 DPS a second or is used for combat patrols   
I'd settle for something that does 100 DPS per second — half a minute later and you'll start instapopping anything smaller than a battleship…  ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 16/04/2009 12:56:39
Originally by: Korrakas something that cant do 600 DPS a second or is used for combat patrols   
I'd settle for something that does 100 DPS per second ù half a minute later and you'll start instapopping anything smaller than a battleshipà 
with lower than 600DPS a second u can not kill a stab-fitted drake. In conclusion, I think you should vote Larkonis Trassler for CSM.
Recruitment for girlfriend prospect: closed
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:33:00 -
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You need a double pointed HAC for that though 
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong with lower than 600DPS a second u can not kill a stab-fitted drake.
Riiiight.
You can kill a Drake with a 1DPS/s ship, it just takes a 10-15 minutes before your damage dealing has accumulated enough to break through the tank… 
(Also, you might want to consider thinking about why I use so many smileys in my answers…) ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Derek Sigres on 16/04/2009 16:41:20 As a rule of thumb wherein we dont' count exceptional stupidity on behalf of the target:
Shuttles T1 Frigates Many Assault Ships (Tossup here, really) Covert Ops ships Other Interceptors Mining Barges Industrial Ships Transport Ships (tricky)
Ships that there is a reasonable potential for success, but odds of ship loss are greater than say 20%: Destroyers T1 Cruisers (they can be quite lethal to Inty's, especially the Tarannis) Exhumers (So long as you are not operating in guristas/serpentis space as they likely have a stout kin/therm tank)
Ships one can take out if extreme stupidity is taken into account: Any Sub Capital
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Raxlar Kalimar lol...Never mind I think my last comment went all over your heads.
Take your calculus and go home. I shall not integrate on THESE boards.
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UMEE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:46:00 -
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you cant really take anything down with a single taranis. anything fitted in a competent manner that is. i actually stopped using mine, as everyone and their mother is outfitted with anti frig modules. i prefer to do the frig dps thing, and tackle with my ishkur nowadays. if i wanna just tackle for my gang, ares is my inty of choice.
however, in a larger engagement, it's not a horrible idea to have a few ranises sneak up on a larger target when it's engaged with something else.
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UMEE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: UMEE on 16/04/2009 16:51:28
Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Opertone taranis can not kill
destroyer
falcon
I highly disagree with these 2 and have the KMs to prove it... Dependant on fitting and the situation really. For a falcon you ofc need to fit ECCM.
a couple of extra HP on a dessie and youre screwed. i tried taking down a thrasher the other day in my 200dps ranis, but it had a shield extender fitted. i didnt even get into its armor.
but yes, all dps frigs with 3 mid slots perform very well as anti falcon platforms.
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xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.16 16:58:00 -
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For the record, for all of you making fun of me, did you kill a Titan yesterday?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1050658
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Chompy
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Posted - 2009.04.16 17:02:00 -
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I saw a ranis take downa demois once
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 16/04/2009 19:30:42
Originally by: UMEE
a couple of extra HP on a dessie and youre screwed. i tried taking down a thrasher the other day in my 200dps ranis, but it had a shield extender fitted. i didnt even get into its armor.
I've taken several trashers down in my 300 DPS ranis. Tho I think most of them were arty fitted, and I don't have recollection of the presence or absence of tank fittings. But it is not impossible is all I'm saying. And 200 DPS for a ranis is *really* low IMO.
I reckon Deimos is possible if he has no neut and no lights. But tbh I'm not certain... Well a Railmos is easy ofc. ---
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Rock urSocksoff
Provehito In Altum
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak For the record, for all of you making fun of me, did you kill a Titan yesterday?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1050658
So wait, your big claim to success is winning a 71 v 9 fight?
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Guer
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Posted - 2009.04.16 20:56:00 -
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I have seen a solo ranis take down a rapier, and once a rokh. Both were competently fitted, and not afk.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.17 01:10:00 -
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It is possible to take down all types of **** :D Good Targets: Most frigs Inties AFs (Some) Desties (Some) Cruisers (Some)
Maybe problems: HACs Anything frigate sized with an AB Anything with a med neut or bigger Anything with light drones
Will probably end in death: Most BS Titans Carriers MS
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Danuvia Za
Bellum Aeternus PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.17 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8 Itty II's can be easily taken down by a ranis. Also impairor's and the osprey make easy targets.
Fear the assault missile / Warrior II osprey :)
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FOl2TY8
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.04.17 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Danuvia Za
Originally by: FOl2TY8 Itty II's can be easily taken down by a ranis. Also impairor's and the osprey make easy targets.
Fear the assault missile / Warrior II osprey :)
Touche!
Also thought I would add this: Linkage
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.04.17 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak For the record, for all of you making fun of me, did you kill a Titan yesterday?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1050658
Did you make sure to check your fit in EFT and make sure it was adequate DPS and tank prior to this heroic engagement?
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