EVE Search - Whats the obsession with Caldari?

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Whats the obsession with Caldari?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Indium oxide Gallente Unnatural Growth OUTWORLD SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:39:00 - [1] Edited by: Indium oxide on 21/04/2009 23:40:41 I dont really understand why every time i ask for the best of a certain type of ship the standard response is a caldari ship? Unless i am mistaken there are 3 other races out there and im sure that they all dont suck compared to caldari, otherwise the game would be broken Signature: The new authority on PvP
Benedikt Miloslav	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:40:00 - [2]
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:51:00 - [3] What have you been asking for? PvE content, the Caldari do tend to have some of the best. PvP combat, well, here's the saying that gets repeated on this forum a lot: Caldari Solo PvP Success Pick three ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:54:00 - [4] Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 21/04/2009 23:55:12 Originally by: Gavin DeVries What have you been asking for? PvE content, the Caldari do tend to have some of the best. PvP combat, well, here's the saying that gets repeated on this forum a lot: Caldari Solo PvP Success Pick three That joke is so old it hurts, and its no longer relevant at all. It used to be "fun" a year ago, but repeated a lot? You fail. Caldari got a few good ships for solo work, but many of the caldari ships are gang oreinted. Caldari is by far the best solo race, minmatar would take that role imo.
ikillu532	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:03:00 - [5] Coming from a caldari pilot, caldari ships lack everywhere. Definitely would say gallente are the best all around ship.
Sirani	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:19:00 - [6] Originally by: ikillu532 Coming from a caldari pilot, caldari ships lack everywhere. Definitely would say gallente are the best all around ship. this
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:30:00 - [7] Originally by: ikillu532 Coming from a caldari pilot, caldari ships lack everywhere. Definitely would say gallente are the best all around ship. I disagree. I fly Caldari myself, they got some pretty good ships. Gallente however is lacking, their drone ships is teh ships that make gallente woth it. And possibly Mega. Best allaround ships is definatly minmatar.
Indium oxide Gallente Unnatural Growth OUTWORLD SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:37:00 - [8] I have mainly been asking baout PvP, specificly Ewar, and the keres gets ab****ely no love, all i hear about is the kitsune, and the blackbird. Generally i am told that caldari ships are better. Signature: The new authority on PvP
ikillu532	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:38:00 - [9] Well the rook and falcon can't be beat when it comes to EWAR
Vyllana	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:48:00 - [10] Well duh, if you're asking about ewar, why would you be surprised? Caldari are obviously the most ewar oriented race (i.e. who else has an ewar battleship?). Target jammers are obviously the most "overt" form of ewar... webbers and scramblers, which some other races get bonuses to are part of a typical tackling setup anyway, so they aren't really "ewar", and target painters aren't exactly "ewar" either. TDs and damps are of course solid alternatives, but they aren't as total at shutting down a target as ecm is, and moreover caldari ships tend to have more med slots since they are designed as shield tankers, but those med slots can often all be put to use for ecm at the expense of not having any tank. Anyway, your question is kind of silly in light of the fact that you are asking for ewar ships and being surprised that the answer is frequently Caldari. That'd be like being surprised that people tell you minmatar after asking which ships are the fastest or amarr after you ask which ships have the biggest armor tanks.
odst Captain15	Posted - 2009.04.22 01:00:00 - [11] the blarpy isnt that bad and thats probally the only caldari pvp ship ill ever use anymore
Atsuko Ratu Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.04.22 01:10:00 - [12] Amarr > Caldari > Minmatar > Gal IMO.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.22 01:44:00 - [13] Caldari have incredibly strong PvP ships, and shield buffer tanking is pretty much superior to armor buffering for sub BSes. As for the solo PvP thing, Caldari have capable solo ships that are just as competitive with the other races. No, not every ship can be a solo pwnmobile, but that pick 3 joke (Caldari, PvP, Success, Solo) is a bunch of bull squid. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
fuxinos Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm	Posted - 2009.04.22 04:48:00 - [14] Edited by: fuxinos on 22/04/2009 04:51:36 Every ship in this game could solo PVP, some of them just rather well. As for Caldari, their ships mainly suck when it comes down to a fight with same sized ships. Where Caldari realy shines are their thiny little niche roles and only there. They just suffer from to many tradeoffs and their lack of flexibility makes it even worse. But there are 2-3 ships Caldari has, that are not completly cramped into a niche role and they do the job quite good. See Drake, one of the ships that does not get the overwhelming useless Missilerange bonus. Apart from that, I would say Amarr has the best ships overall, for solo AND gang work. Solo: Amarr > Minmatar > Gallente > Caldari Gang: Amarr > Minmatar/Caldari > Gallente Fleet: Caldari > Amarr > Minmatar/Gallente
Angelos	Posted - 2009.04.22 05:00:00 - [15] Gallente > *
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.04.22 05:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Indium oxide Edited by: Indium oxide on 21/04/2009 23:40:41 I dont really understand why every time i ask for the best of a certain type of ship the standard response is a caldari ship? Unless i am mistaken there are 3 other races out there and im sure that they all dont suck compared to caldari, otherwise the game would be broken I thought amarr was the fotm this week
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.22 06:04:00 - [17] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Caldari is by far the best solo race, minmatar would take that role imo. Lol you sir have absolutely no clue about eve ships. Show me one Caldari ship that can beat my domi 1v1 for example.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2009.04.22 06:23:00 - [18] I have a Domi, an can afford anything up to an including full Complex Mods. I'll tell you what beats us for damage, ANYTHING hehe CNR,Golem,massivly out kill a Domi.Drake(equal for tanking)
xVx dreadnaught Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.04.22 06:25:00 - [19] I think all the races have different things to add to fights. my basic breakdown is... CALDARI longest lock range, slowest locking time, best buffer tanks, lowest Max DPS, can still do Dmg while jammed/damped (FoF) cannot get wreckings on missles and they have the biggest sig radius (fastest locked and easier to hit being that) and there the slowest movement. missles don't need to track, but they can be shot down (defenders) and there is a delay (if you or your target warps its just a wasted missle) MINMITAAR fastest movement, fastest locking, lowest sig radius, high DPS (autos are great for close range and artys are massive volley) lacking in overall HP, require cross training guns and missles aswell as drones (same with shield an armor skills and navigation) AMARR Best base armor, biggest cap+recharge, low ammo costs (crystals last ages and take little cargo cap) most energy costing weapons, beams are good for sniping and pulse good for close ganks, can be trained focusing on guns and armor aswell as cap skills (unless your going for very specific ships) GALLENTE Great DPS! decent speed, decent armor, drones don't req CPU PG Or CAP, there ship bonus means they can do good DMG at range with Rails or massive DMG in close with blasters. The bottom lineis every race has something going for them, aswell as there drawbacks... peaople like caldari cos there easy to use "decently" altho it takes skill to be good in them missles have low SP/Dmg ratio where as minm is a much more SP intensive and sometimes use speed to "Avoid" damage. What I suggest is pick your ships based on what you need from it.
4 LOM United Gamers	Posted - 2009.04.22 07:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Indium oxide Edited by: Indium oxide on 21/04/2009 23:40:41 I dont really understand why every time i ask for the best of a certain type of ship the standard response is a caldari ship? Unless i am mistaken there are 3 other races out there and im sure that they all dont suck compared to caldari, otherwise the game would be broken As a player who is all caldari (this character) and an alt thats all gallenty, i have to say wtf? Caldari are great support (and god like pve), but the other races shine at pvp... Also who is telling you caldari ships are the only good pvp ships? unless its me in game as i tend to go caldari pride a little to hard. Anyways who ever is telling you this should go take a cerberus in a fight against a zealot and then tell you caldari is not as good as they thought.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.22 07:29:00 - [21] I never noticed caldari being mentioned that often as the best ships for a role. But maybe they are mentioned bit more often as counter for all the caldari whiners. And together with amarr they have just the best ships for gang pvp.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:17:00 - [22] Edited by: Gypsio III on 22/04/2009 09:22:00 Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Caldari is by far the best solo race, minmatar would take that role imo. Lol you sir have absolutely no clue about eve ships. Show me one Caldari ship that can beat my domi 1v1 for example. Pure lolz at thinking that solo pvp is measured at the level of BS-sized ships.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:20:00 - [23] Originally by: Gavin DeVries What have you been asking for? PvE content, the Caldari do tend to have some of the best. PvP combat, well, here's the saying that gets repeated on this forum a lot: Caldari Solo PvP Success Pick three It's also worth mentioning that 1v1 combat on TQ is statistically insignificant these days
Ig Neus	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:29:00 - [24] Quote: I dont really understand why every time i ask for the best of a certain type of ship the standard response is a caldari ship? Unless i am mistaken there are 3 other races out there and im sure that they all dont suck compared to caldari, otherwise the game would be broken Because a ****** on a forum answers? :) Caldari, like every other race have strong and weak points. Their strongest point and the one that leads to the great amount of Caldari pilots is that they are extremely low skill points friendly for missions. A careful 1-2 month pilot in a Raven can do most level 4 missions without a problem. Still, as long as you cannot fly a Golem, Raven is not even the best all arround Battleship for missions. Sentry Dominix is a better choice. For solo PvP, the old pick 3 joke is generally true. Theorycrafting on a Forum is a nice way to ignore reality. Check how many can flipping/low sec Kestrels/Merlins are out there compared to Rifters, Incursus or Punishers. Check how many Caracals/Moas are out there soloing compared to Thoraxes/Vexors/Ruptures/Arbitrators. Check how many Harpies are out there soloing compared to Ishkurs/Jaguars. How many Crows compared to Taranis/Crusaders. How many Cerberi/Eagles compared to Zealots/Vagabonds/Ishtars. There is a reason for that, Caldari are not really made for <disruptor range combat + tackling gear and generally lack versatility. The above does not mean that you cannot solo in Caldari ships. It just means that Gallente and Minmatar are the best races for soloing generally, followed by Amarr (Pilgrim/Curse are really strong for solo but they are the exception to the rule). On the other hand, Caldari tend to have really nice medium/large gang ships with dedicated roles. The general idea is that as you move from soloing towards larger gangs, Gallente and Minmatar ships get weaker while Caldari and Amarr ships get stronger. Of course there are exceptions.
xVx dreadnaught Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Gavin DeVries What have you been asking for? PvE content, the Caldari do tend to have some of the best. PvP combat, well, here's the saying that gets repeated on this forum a lot: Caldari Solo PvP Success Pick three It's also worth mentioning that 1v1 combat on TQ is statistically insignificant these days Yeah its a shame noone adheres to 1V1 combat nor does anyone respect it... I think it would be fun if 2 alliances were fighting over a system someone said 1V1 winner gets the system for 1 week and in a weeks time another 1V1... that my dear children would be honorable. its a shame noone (inc me) believes it would ever happen.
Ig Neus	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:31:00 - [26] Edited by: Ig Neus on 22/04/2009 09:31:42 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Gavin DeVries What have you been asking for? PvE content, the Caldari do tend to have some of the best. PvP combat, well, here's the saying that gets repeated on this forum a lot: Caldari Solo PvP Success Pick three It's also worth mentioning that 1v1 combat on TQ is statistically insignificant these days Oh it really depends on where and how you fly. About half of my kills are solo. In fact I had two nice 1v1 yesterday and a funny one with a noob :P Eve PvP is not only 0.0..
Incantare	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Indium oxide I dont really understand why every time i ask for the best of a certain type of ship the standard response is a caldari ship? Unless i am mistaken there are 3 other races out there and im sure that they all dont suck compared to caldari, otherwise the game would be broken Are we playing the same game? Caldari don't have best in every class. They have a series of good ships and some terrible ones. The same can be said of every race. Unless you're talking about PvE, in which case yes Caldari are king. On the other hand for solo they are the worst race, period.
Lady Darkmoon	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:49:00 - [28] If you want 1v1 you can flip, steal wrecks and stuff like that in high-sec. Only way to be semisure of a 1v1. There are a few 1v1's in low-sec as well, but you need the fight to be quick, else there'll most likely be others joining in, wether they are friends of your target or just 3rd party looking for a quick two kills. Anyways, to reply to the OP. I rarely encounter what you are saying about being advised to use a Caldari ship. There are sometimes those that say train for CNR's to do missions, but as far as PvP goes, people always tend to recommend ships from the other 3 races (depending on what role for the ship the person asking is after). To be honest, most times when Caldari are mentioned in PvP, the only ship that ever gets brought up is the Falcon, and sometimes, though rarely, the blarpy.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Gypsio III Edited by: Gypsio III on 22/04/2009 09:22:00 Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Caldari is by far the best solo race, minmatar would take that role imo. Lol you sir have absolutely no clue about eve ships. Show me one Caldari ship that can beat my domi 1v1 for example. Pure lolz at thinking that solo pvp is measured at the level of BS-sized ships. Are you somewhat dumb ? The orignial statement didn't restrict the solo pvp for a shiptype, so i took the domi, because with the domi i can beat any sub-capital ship in a solofight, no matter the race or size. But this counts for other drone boats aswell to a certain extent. The reson is that they have nice dps before having fitted a singel module. This allows to fit pvp utility stuff in lows and mes, maybe combined with nos/neuts in high slots, which will obsolete any active tank or whatever, while having a strong tank on the domi/myrm/vexor with pvp mods in meds.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.04.22 09:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Gypsio III on 22/04/2009 09:59:51 Originally by: Lady Darkmoon To be honest, most times when Caldari are mentioned in PvP, the only ship that ever gets brought up is the Falcon, and sometimes, though rarely, the blarpy. And long may people continue to think that. Originally by: yakia Are you somewhat dumb ? The orignial statement didn't restrict the solo pvp for a shiptype, so i took the domi, because with the domi i can beat any sub-capital ship in a solofight, no matter the race or size. But this counts for other drone boats aswell to a certain extent. The reson is that they have nice dps before having fitted a singel module. This allows to fit pvp utility stuff in lows and mes, maybe combined with nos/neuts in high slots, which will obsolete any active tank or whatever, while having a strong tank on the domi/myrm/vexor with pvp mods in meds. No. But you are, by giving a BS as an example as a solo ship.

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.