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Maria Kalista
Amarr Emerald Forest Securities
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Posted - 2009.04.22 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina ....it takes no effort whatsoever. Don't need to undock or open a convo or anything - Just a macro that spams your contract link in local all day long and you'll rake in those billions in no time.
OMFG!
I'm doing it wrong.
Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
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Maxwell Terallis
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Posted - 2009.04.22 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joe edit= Who cares anyway, its allready been proven half the eve users wont read it properly anyway Originally by: Maxwell Terallis
Originally by: Joe I cant Get legitimate Petitions answerd, becuase theres a Que of 10k Idiots infront of me
Put a Warning in the Tutorial, 'caveat emptor' and all that, or better yet, chnge the damm contract front page so that is summerizes the prices into 3 significant numbers, rounded up, with engineering notation after it, you can can have the full price number down to its final two digits in the accept page.
OMGWTF?
....change the damm contract front page so that is summerizes the prices into 3 significant numbers, rounded up, with engineering notation after it...
Wow, its like if they adopted a system used by everyone else in the world thered be no problems
Hate to break it to you, but this wouldn't be a legitimate petition either.... It would be idiot petition 10,001.
There are no warnings needed in the tutorial or anywhere else.
If someone sends you a message that says: "Buy my product for 30,000 isk from this contract" and the contract says "29,999,999" - it is your fault and your fault alone you didn't have the mathematical comprehension to see it is not 30,000.
AND THIS IS WHY THERE ARE SCAMS, PEOPLE LACK READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS
I didn't state what my petition is about, i complained becuase my petition is behind 10k idiots that have been scammed becuase they cant read.
The post offers a simple solution for CCP, its got nothing todo about a Petition ive still got waiting, on a different Issue.
Context, Joe... Context.
People earlier are talking about filing a petition and see what type of answer to get about CCP taking care of scamming. The first line of your post is talking about filing a petition. You say now that your mention of the 10,000 idiots in front of you is referring to people complaining about getting scammed, but not once do you attempt to reference that to your sentence.
Do not accuse me of lack of reading comprehension when it is your poorly-written response causing the conclusions drawn.
I will also note how you completely disregarded the rest of my response where I mentioned nothing about reading comprehension. It's mathematical comprehension that is causing people to buy something for 29,999,999 and thinking it was 30,000.
Be more clear in your responses and there will be less criticism of them.
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Joe Martin
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.04.22 06:36:00 -
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
This goes for everyone that has fallen into a contract scam. The contract system tells you explicitly how much you're paying for something. Twice. If you're not paying attention and get scammed anyways, oh well. CCP unfortunately can't code stupid out of people.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.04.22 06:43:00 -
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As a proud member of PERVS I can only say that we support this kind of scamming and have made FORTUNE out of it! Comoon guys, cheap invul II's only for 999,999,999 isk! Get it! You know you want it! |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon As a proud member of PERVS I can only say that we support this kind of scamming and have made FORTUNE out of it! Comoon guys, cheap invul II's only for 999,999,999 isk! Get it! You know you want it!
Don't listen to this fool. By my cheap invul I1s — only 999,989,999 ISK! |
Billy Sastard
Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 08:31:00 -
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contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me... <-------------------------------------------------> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein |
Shintai
Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.22 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me...
Seems so. --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fawkyou Pirates
Fourty-Nine Million, Nine Hundred Ninety-Nine Thousand, Nine Hundred and Ninety-Nine.....
Or just make it so: 49,849,999 = 49,849,999.00 (49.85 million ISK)
It has nothing to do with being stupid or deserving to lose isk.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.22 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tauranon its surely working as intended.
I find it interesting to look at the contract history of some scammers, quite a few 2 week old alts have scammed 2 bil+, which is fun. Inspecting one scammer, even showed a buyer that got scammed twice for 200mil for launchers, who then went on to sell the resulting ship he'd fitted on contracts for a little over 100mil. ie he was probably working to a total of 10mil profit, yet didn't seem to notice the 400mil loss!
Unfortunately scammers recycling alts is undoing my blocks of scam contract spammers, which makes various locals uncomfortable, so thats probably the only aspect that bears looking at.
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BillyBong2
Amarr Destructive Influence KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.22 11:53:00 -
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Of course they condone, if a player does not take the time to look at what they are buying then who is to blame? The other person is just really trying to weed out the idoits and at the same time teaching them a lesson in basic reading. |
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Da Death
Minmatar Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:15:00 -
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well one thing for sure:
As long as it is not CCP's money they don't care (most probably). But besides SCAM it is also heavy SPAM. And children, I can tell you that it will get much more worse. In the near future you have to go through 50 contracts -of which 30+ are scams- to find an item. And, hey, the fun just started =)
I never saw more people pi**ed off in the last 6 years then now. isn't that reason enough for our EvE-Gods to rethink the system?
A happy player is a paying player. |
Rordan D'Kherr
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me...
Nice. I should try that! |
Seishi Maru
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:36:00 -
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If you are unable to count the number of zeros or nines in a number you DESERVE TO BE SCAMMED!!
For god's sake.. if half of eve is able to do it and never ever fall to a scam (because they do count) why in hell can't you?
You need to be really really stupid or drunk to fall for that scamms. |
Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:46:00 -
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I don't mind the scams so much as the spam.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Seishi Maru If you are unable to count the number of zeros or nines in a number you DESERVE TO BE SCAMMED!!
More importantly, if you are unable to use some basic pattern recognition and figure out that no non-scammer would set a price in the 999,999,etc format, you will always be a target for scams, no matter how much CCP tries to improve the UI.
There's absolutely zero need to count the numbers — a proper contract will have a sensible number and not trigger the "no text description" bug/misfeature/omission. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me...
Absolutely. Sad that CCP neither has the manpower nor any interest in investigating such stuff.
With their mechanics they make it really easy for RMT and isk sellers/buyers. Suspicious people can always argue that they got scammed, everyone would understand that ...
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Miilla
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Posted - 2009.04.22 12:59:00 -
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The most annoying people are not the scammers but the CRY BABIES who cannot play eve for no life nor money without running crying CCP this CCP that.
Give up on Eve, you fail at it miserably. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Martin A fool and his money are soon parted.
This goes for everyone that has fallen into a contract scam. The contract system tells you explicitly how much you're paying for something. Twice. If you're not paying attention and get scammed anyways, oh well. CCP unfortunately can't code stupid out of people.
Pretty much this. |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Billy Sastard contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me...
Absolutely. Sad that CCP neither has the manpower nor any interest in investigating such stuff.
I highly doubt it has anything to do with RMT. Every time I go to Amarr that person is spamming those same contracts in local, even the ones that had been completed. None of the characters that were scammed look like obvious alts, either. It's what it looks like; a 23/7 spam macro that has net someone over 10bil in a week. |
Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Neo Omni on 22/04/2009 13:32:13
Originally by: Miilla The most annoying people are not the scammers but the CRY BABIES who cannot play eve for no life nor money without running crying CCP this CCP that.
Give up on Eve, you fail at it miserably.
The most annoying people here are those with negative attitudes about everything that is posted. That always interpret a question as a troll, or an issue someone has as a cry baby ploy. You all should be banned for even $uggesting people fail and $hould leave EVE.
I asked a question...I got an answer:
start message------------------------ Hi,
Scams are perfectly allowed, as long as they do not exploit a bug within the game.
Contract scams are as such allowed, and a part of the game.
If you have any further issues, please don't hesitate to contact us again.
Best regards, GM *********** EVE Online Customer Support end message------------------------
So there is nothing more to be said.
Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Rawr Cristina ....it takes no effort whatsoever. Don't need to undock or open a convo or anything - Just a macro that spams your contract link in local all day long and you'll rake in those billions in no time.
OMFG!
I'm doing it wrong.
Apparently we are all doing it all wrong. Unfortunately this tactic turns contracts into a wasteland of 9's and misleading user info. That in itself may turn away new plays.
Imagine that...a game where cheating is allowed. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Da Death well one thing for sure:
As long as it is not CCP's money they don't care (most probably). But besides SCAM it is also heavy SPAM. And children, I can tell you that it will get much more worse. In the near future you have to go through 50 contracts -of which 30+ are scams- to find an item. And, hey, the fun just started =)
I never saw more people pi**ed off in the last 6 years then now. isn't that reason enough for our EvE-Gods to rethink the system?
A happy player is a paying player.
Sort by price. Even if you're too dumb to read, your PC will have no problem seperating 999,999.99 fro 999,999,999 |
Angel Lightbringer
Caldari Nexus Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me...
Well you know, given all the stupidity in the world, I can't figure how someone can scam that much, so often.
Quick question, were those items all offered at the same amount? If so, looks more than suspicious... |
Doctor Penguin
Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:36:00 -
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If you're bothered about the scam, I have a [Proposals] thread on the Alliance Hall about this scam.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1053491
It appears that there are two sides of the debate here. Some people want anti-spam measures introduced, whereas some want to tackle the contract scam head on. |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:39:00 -
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I would just like to thank the OP for wasting CCP's time with something that was already known to be a part of the game. It even mention's it on the back of the retail box ¼_¼
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.04.22 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Billy Sastard contractscam.jpg
This looks like money laundering to me...
Absolutely. Sad that CCP neither has the manpower nor any interest in investigating such stuff.
I highly doubt it has anything to do with RMT. Every time I go to Amarr that person is spamming those same contracts in local, even the ones that had been completed. None of the characters that were scammed look like obvious alts, either. It's what it looks like; a 23/7 spam macro that has net someone over 10bil in a week.
But that is exactly the point!
You can so easily hide the RMT and isk selling in between all those mind-boggling amounts of spam scams. Game mechanics makes it so easy for the RMT people here. You would need really lots of manpower to sort out the scammers from the RMT and money landering. |
Cerebus Alteri
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Posted - 2009.04.22 14:01:00 -
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the only thing i am worried about in the long run. is this growing out of hand.
alot of players earn their iskies mining, missioning, trading, pirating, ratting and they do it with "hard" work and they do it "honestly".
this contract scam biz puts all the isk printing myths and reality to shame. make an alt run an macro make a few contracts to spam and make billions in the weeks. and you never have to leave station, you never have to buy anything. or put any active brainpower or action into anything.
so with all the pluses how soon till half of eve is doing the same thing? yea its been going on for a long time but in some far off mythical land known as jita, where most newish players never set foot, hell you can go your first year about in game and never have even been to jita. but now this has spead out far and wide across the land. and when the spammers are actually near their pc occasionally they will brag about the amount of isk they make in local.
i mean are us honest gamers doing whatever we like to do just stupid? we should all be making macros and spammming and parting isk from greedy or stupid, or true noobs that do not know better people.
i do not mind it now, but if it starts growing and you go from 10 to 15 scammers in these minor hubs and you suddenly got 20 30 40 just trying to cash in on the success. then the current spam will look like child's play. nevermind that's a number of bodies sitting in a mission hub, spamming local taking up server resources and not doing anything but taking up space and parting idiots from their isk.
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Othran
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Posted - 2009.04.22 14:16:00 -
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Scamming is allowed but what IS an exploit is recycling the alts. ie - you use an alt for a scam like this one then that alt stays on your account FOREVER. You delete it then that's an exploit and you are banned.
Now should we all start petitioning the recycled alts involved in this CCP? I wouldn't have thought that would help anyone but if that's what it takes to stem the scam spam that is EVERYWHERE in high-sec now, never mind regional trade hubs.....
Or perhaps a slight change to the UI would be in everyone's interests. What do you think CCP?
Skillful scamming is a positive factor in the game. This 999 spam scam cr@p isn't.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.22 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Othran Now should we all start petitioning the recycled alts involved in this CCP?
You probably could. The question is, how do you know it's a recycled alt? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
FlyinS
Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization
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Posted - 2009.04.22 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
I have lived in both, so yes I know what you mean. Currently I live in a small town where people still leave their front doors and cars unlocked.
What town? I uh...want to come visit. To see if I want to live there.
Yeah that's it.
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Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.04.22 14:44:00 -
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You can do whatever you want in order to attain power. Just keep it within the game's mechanics.
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. |
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