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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.05.16 06:17:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:We actually look for dumb Null Sec F%#s that do nothing BUT blob. Seems to me the collective mentality of a group goes down the more their numbers go up. But by all means lock up and hit F1 like a good lemming.
Did you just admit to seeking out easy fights instead of challenging ones? |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
84
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Posted - 2012.05.16 08:26:00 -
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I seem to have no problem with solo pvp neither does my corp or many other players.
Maybe your just mad cause you can no longer jump your 10bil nightmare into a camp in m-o and get back to gate with all the recons and tier3's about.
Solo and small gang is not dead, if it was my corp would be as well. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

DHB WildCat
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
92
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Posted - 2012.05.16 16:07:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:I seem to have no problem with solo pvp neither does my corp or many other players.
Maybe your just mad cause you can no longer jump your 10bil nightmare into a camp in m-o and get back to gate with all the recons and tier3's about.
Solo and small gang is not dead, if it was my corp would be as well.
This is really just getting silly. I can still do it because I can afford a ship built to fight the blob. I am in the 5%, however you should not have to spend billions of isk in order to small gang pvp. That is what this thread is about, Im sick and tired of you people that refuse to read the thread and just bash the OP without thought.
Now stop and add something constructive. |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
445
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:52:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:This is really just getting silly. I can still do it because I can afford a ship built to fight the blob. I am in the 5%, however you should not have to spend billions of isk in order to small gang pvp. That is what this thread is about, Im sick and tired of you people that refuse to read the thread and just bash the OP without thought.
Now stop and add something constructive.
I see people who successfully solo in cheap(ish) ships, like T2 fit BCs... |

Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
692
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:57:00 -
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ACtually, PvPing in cheap-ass (or free) ships has always been easier than in those costing some isk. 14 |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
1000
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Posted - 2012.05.16 18:01:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:ACtually, PvPing in cheap-ass (or free) ships has always been easier than in those costing some isk. Pretty much.
My corp is a cheap-ass/free solo/small gang PvP corp and in my opinion we're doing alright. You don't need a bling-Cynabal to fight a blob. You could just go fight something else. Or... just throw your five T1-fit frogates at their blob, kill a couple of interceptors, die, and laugh all the way home, where you get more frigates. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |

Natasha Hec
Mole Station Nursery
1
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Posted - 2012.05.16 19:23:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote:ACtually, PvPing in cheap-ass (or free) ships has always been easier than in those costing some isk. Pretty much. My corp is a cheap-ass/free solo/small gang PvP corp and in my opinion we're doing alright. You don't need a bling-Cynabal to fight a blob. You could just go fight something else. Or... just throw your five T1-fit frogates at their blob, kill a couple of interceptors, die, and laugh all the way home, where you get more frigates.
This man talks the truth, I rarely spend more than 30m on my pvp ships and most of the time I fly Incursus (More once the buff gets on tq), and I haven't had any trouble soloing. Its actually been easier than when I used to role faction/t2 cruisers.
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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
86
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Posted - 2012.05.16 20:31:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:I seem to have no problem with solo pvp neither does my corp or many other players.
Maybe your just mad cause you can no longer jump your 10bil nightmare into a camp in m-o and get back to gate with all the recons and tier3's about.
Solo and small gang is not dead, if it was my corp would be as well. This is really just getting silly. I can still do it because I can afford a ship built to fight the blob. I am in the 5%, however you should not have to spend billions of isk in order to small gang pvp. That is what this thread is about, Im sick and tired of you people that refuse to read the thread and just bash the OP without thought. Now stop and add something constructive.
We dont run expensive gangs, we run run of the mill BC gangs with recons. Considering we are a corp of 10 active members at a time and we get multiple cap kills, loads of 0.0 fights and around 50bil in dmgs every month, seems like gang/solo is still there.
I read the op and it was covered in bitterness, its not CCP's fault you cant adapt to the game the way it is.
I also have no trouble solo pvp'in any frigates and BC's. If you have then thats your fault, not anyone elses.
I just think are a dried up bitter vet that is pissed at the fact your machariels and vindicators die more than they used to cause of the "blob".
Solo and small gang pvp is fine. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2012.05.16 20:53:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:Whenever i try to pvp, i try to do it solo.
I always get my ass stomped by guys with faction/t2 ships with a dickload of skills, and that in effect leaves me without the ability to get experience, short of 'just dump money into it.'
AC Thrasher fit, T2, point, neut. Choose targets well, and have fun. Entering into a fight that guarantees your death (you v blob) is not brave or "toe-to-toe", it's just dumb. Best fight I've had in months was my Thrasher v 2 Rifters... I popped one before the second popped me. Good fun. :) |

Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
42
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Posted - 2012.05.17 06:10:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Tara Read wrote:We actually look for dumb Null Sec F%#s that do nothing BUT blob. Seems to me the collective mentality of a group goes down the more their numbers go up. But by all means lock up and hit F1 like a good lemming. Did you just admit to seeking out easy fights instead of challenging ones?
No no you misunderstand me my good sir. What I mean is that a majority of Null Sec pilots on an individual level are incompetent when it comes to smaller skirmishes. There never is an "easy" fight especially because an engagement can escalate rather quickly especially in Null dealing with a larger gang.
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
42
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Posted - 2012.05.17 06:12:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote:ACtually, PvPing in cheap-ass (or free) ships has always been easier than in those costing some isk. Pretty much. My corp is a cheap-ass/free solo/small gang PvP corp and in my opinion we're doing alright. You don't need a bling-Cynabal to fight a blob. You could just go fight something else. Or... just throw your five T1-fit frogates at their blob, kill a couple of interceptors, die, and laugh all the way home, where you get more frigates.
This. People so uptight over losses and K/D ratios often forget what you just pointed out. Hop in a few frigates and die in a fire!  |

Sygma
Appetite 4 Destruction
105
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:53:00 -
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We do a lot of small gang stuff and we run into many of the issues mentioned above. The game mechanics are well biased toward the blob. We still trudge along..killing what we can, avoiding the blops and bridges as best we can. |

Sygma
Appetite 4 Destruction
105
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:54:00 -
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TomyLobo wrote:Griznatch wrote:confirming ecm drones are not chance based and work flawlessly every time they cycle no matter how much eccm the victim has I call BULLSHIT.
That is why we run with smart bombs on ships. Eliminates the opponents drones, then you can drop your own.
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xXxFireAngelxXx
Gallente Trade Union Moon Warriors
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:01:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:EVE pvp can be traced back to many nerfs and buffs. EVE went from a game where solo, and small gang PVP actually used to be very abundant but we'll take a look at why it has become so hard to do anything without a blob behind you.
In no particular order -
6) ECM drones - most overpowered module in the game, anyone can fit them and they seem to be just as strong as a maxed skilled falcon. Yes smartbombs kill them, but if they jam you and you kill them they still hold the jam for 20 seconds, which is huge in PVP. Also ECCM modules do not work!
Anyways there used to be a time before any of this, and it was wonderful. But if you can overcome all these things and more, then you are in the 5%. So GL to everyone, and remembering all these changes just makes me sad 8(.
lol
Wild Quick addition to number 6: I used two ECCMs in an abaddon during a fleet fight, and i got jammed by a hornet ec-300. How is that even possible with them drones having 1 ecm jam strength, and the abaddons sensor strength at atleast 60+ with two eccms.... |

FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
98
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:11:00 -
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xXxFireAngelxXx wrote: Quick addition to number 6: I used two ECCMs in an abaddon during a fleet fight, and i got jammed by a hornet ec-300. How is that even possible with them drones having 1 ecm jam strength, and the abaddons sensor strength at atleast 60+ with two eccms....
Chance based mechanics suck? How is it that in Civilization a spearman used to be able to defeat a tank (sometimes)?
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Lili Lu
231
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:32:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Chance based mechanics suck? How is it that in Civilization a spearman used to be able to defeat a tank (sometimes)?
Because he cought the tank crew dozing and stuck the spear through the eye slits (or exhaust port) in the armor. |

Viribus
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
50
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:20:00 -
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Sygma wrote:TomyLobo wrote:Griznatch wrote:confirming ecm drones are not chance based and work flawlessly every time they cycle no matter how much eccm the victim has I call BULLSHIT. That is why we run with smart bombs on ships. Eliminates the opponents drones, then you can drop your own.
There are a lot of reasons why smartbombs are bad, especially on solo ships. I pretty much wouldn't bother with anything other than a heavy smartbomb on a battleship that can easily fit it, because:
- Medium smartbombs are difficult to fit, using the more grid and 2-3 times the CPU of a meta neut - Mediums also use a lot of cap, almost as much as an MWD - Mediums still take three activations to kill light ECM drones, to say nothing of mediums. If you start bombing when they're deployed, you can potentially still spend 40 seconds jammed (since they continue jamming after they die lmao) - Smalls take forever to kill anything and are basically worthless because, for the size of ship that would fit smalls, the fight is pretty much decided in that time frame - (Universal for smartbombs) They can't be used on stations or gates, which are two of the most popular places for fights
Keep in mind this is for solo/small gang ships, smartbombs are still good for clearing drones in fleets and stuff |
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