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CARY Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.04 21:57:00 - [61] Sad to say but News will come from KenZoku within the next 6 to 8 week that the alliance will disband or moving into another regions. Fact remain, KenZoku can't remain at this level and stage that they are fighting, it is beginning to show its wear and tears. For KenZoku to survive they will have to down grade a bit and admit or deny defeat either way and move into another region. They can not prolong this battle with Goons.
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.04 22:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Teki Caldrum 0.0 is about to become a very boring and lonely place. With these massive power blocks NAPing each other and smashing KenZoku into nothingness, who will be left to hate? In roughly a year, I wouldn't be surprised to see one alliance controlling all of 0.0. Doesn't this alarm anyone? These laughable assertions never seem to go away, do they? While I agree (and lament) that the 0.0 game is largely the domain of two power blocs, that doesn't mean that these coalitions are united by anything other than their dislike of the other bloc. To wit, many of the alliances arrayed against AAA-wagon/TAFKAB are red to each other when not engaged against the other big power bloc. Taking that fact into account, the "big" coalition then becomes a group of smaller, more regional coalitions, many of which have never sought to expand their territories beyond their immediate homes. To an extent, the same is true of the AAA-wagon/TAFKAB side--- at least as far as the likes of AAA and their vassals/allies are concerned. I'm not sure what's going to break the cycle of the two sides being engaged as they currently are...but it hardly means that we will see one alliance or even one bloc "controlling all of 0.0." Perhaps most reasonable people recognize this fact and that is why it doesn't "alarm anyone." "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Ceratin Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 22:25:00 - [63] This thread is just, terrible.. Can we get this kid some milk and cookies and send him to bed now please <3 ------------
Korrakas Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension	Posted - 2009.05.04 23:02:00 - [64] Originally by: The Mittani oh that is why i am being mean to the e-honor pubbie, i haven't had a snack in a while so i'm kinda low blood sugar, i get all cranky time for a chocolate croissant from pret, they're always warm and fresh god damn i love chocolate why o why do you splurge endless BS mittenz, was dismantling BoB not enough for your to slake your inferiority complex ? p.s no one gives a flying ** about your croissant, unless..ya know, you got a spy alt in pret too ? Originally by:** CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Killer Gandry Caldari Red Horizon Inc	Posted - 2009.05.04 23:48:00 - [65] Nope, 0.0 will never become a full NAP fest place. As proven in the passt it will continue, any big organisation will implode, disband or in anotehr way fall apart. There have been big Alliances in the passt where half the playerbase hasn't even heard of. Yet due to slugishness, boredom or whatever reason, at some point they all fall apart, some take longer, some go down fast. I am having a bet with a few friends about the next alliances to fall. Cause falls are as inevitable as winter's, springs and summer's.
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 00:12:00 - [66] Originally by: Korrakas Originally by: The Mittani oh that is why i am being mean to the e-honor pubbie, i haven't had a snack in a while so i'm kinda low blood sugar, i get all cranky time for a chocolate croissant from pret, they're always warm and fresh god damn i love chocolate why o why do you splurge endless BS mittenz, was dismantling BoB not enough for your to slake your inferiority complex ? p.s no one gives a flying **** about your croissant, unless..ya know, you got a spy alt in pret too ? a bluewater-capable yacht will slake my inferiority complex ps the croissant was delicious i am sorry it made you angry~~~
Elohe Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 00:25:00 - [67] uncultured swaines can not fully apreciate the beauty behind a perfeclty crafted croissant
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 00:27:00 - [68] Originally by: Elohe uncultured swaines can not fully apreciate the beauty behind a perfeclty crafted croissant sittin' here. eatin' some cornflakes. common.
Hast Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 00:37:00 - [69] I'm hungry and dont have any food Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Wusti Caldari The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2009.05.05 00:37:00 - [70] Originally by: Ceratin This thread is just, terrible.. Can we get this kid some milk and cookies and send him to bed now please <3 Agreed. _______________________ Welcome to The New Era
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.05 01:26:00 - [71] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 04/05/2009 19:36:37 Originally by: Hey You It might have been possible in the past and we all know who came closest to actually do it. goons? Originally by: Teki Caldrum Sure it does. Through diplomacy. Sure they may not all carry the same name but it will be one giant coalition. No one will have the balls to leave this coalition and attempt to initiate another conflict. They will be too afraid of the massive NAPfest annihilating them. So, I fear that New Eden is about to go through its "Pax Romanus" era. Bull ;P if the uniting factor for gooncoalition goes away (kenzoku dying off) they'll break apart into several coalitions again (NC, SPLOT, RSF), they may stay friends but they're unlikely to stay blue, especially SPLOT / NC and SPLOT/goons there'll still be groups like stainwagon hostile to the rest, -A-'s group, CVA's bunch, triumvirate and the north russians.. if you ask me things'll get more interesting if kenny stop being a factor, not less Actually, I came here to say this. Weird. --
Snowden Vel Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 01:26:00 - [72] Originally by: Orree Originally by: Teki Caldrum 0.0 is about to become a very boring and lonely place. With these massive power blocks NAPing each other and smashing KenZoku into nothingness, who will be left to hate? In roughly a year, I wouldn't be surprised to see one alliance controlling all of 0.0. Doesn't this alarm anyone? These laughable assertions never seem to go away, do they? While I agree (and lament) that the 0.0 game is largely the domain of two power blocs, that doesn't mean that these coalitions are united by anything other than their dislike of the other bloc. To wit, many of the alliances arrayed against AAA-wagon/TAFKAB are red to each other when not engaged against the other big power bloc. Taking that fact into account, the "big" coalition then becomes a group of smaller, more regional coalitions, many of which have never sought to expand their territories beyond their immediate homes. To an extent, the same is true of the AAA-wagon/TAFKAB side--- at least as far as the likes of AAA and their vassals/allies are concerned. I'm not sure what's going to break the cycle of the two sides being engaged as they currently are...but it hardly means that we will see one alliance or even one bloc "controlling all of 0.0." Perhaps most reasonable people recognize this fact and that is why it doesn't "alarm anyone." you're far too reasonable for CAOD
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 02:57:00 - [73] This thread is amazing and you're all getting trolled by Teki, no way does he believe a word of this ** he's spewing. ------------------------------------------------- Everyone hates goonswarm for one reason or another. ... And they promote *gotism -Zurrar
Jack Gates Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 03:24:00 - [74] g00dfellas still exists?
Oregon sinful Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 03:44:00 - [75] If all of 0.0 is blue it'll just mean it'll be easier to travel and to find people to kill... Blue on blue action is the best action.
Nichola Kreed Amarr 181st Legion Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.05 05:46:00 - [76] Edited by: Nichola Kreed on 05/05/2009 05:46:14 it can be fun to watch who will be hated next, so kenzuku must die. i enjoy to watch kenny' long and painful death, strugge hard kenny, dont ruin my fun
Hyveres Caldari NorCorp Technologies Insane Asylum	Posted - 2009.05.05 06:04:00 - [77] Originally by: CARY Sad to say but News will come from KenZoku within the next 6 to 8 week that the alliance will disband or moving into another regions. Fact remain, KenZoku can't remain at this level and stage that they are fighting, it is beginning to show its wear and tears. For KenZoku to survive they will have to down grade a bit and admit or deny defeat either way and move into another region. They can not prolong this battle with Goons. Might just be a highsec carebear reading to much caod ,but I seem to remember statements from goons , pl and nc a few months back that if kenny claimed another region you would follow them there and eradicate them nomatter what. The goal of the conflict being the breakup of your opponents , not territory. Did that change? "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound
Vaustrien Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 06:43:00 - [78] Originally by: Teki Caldrum 0.0 is about to become a very boring and lonely place. With these massive power blocks NAPing each other and smashing KenZoku into nothingness, who will be left to hate? In roughly a year, I wouldn't be surprised to see one alliance controlling all of 0.0. Doesn't this alarm anyone? Eve is filled with fat, sweaty, pasty skinned space nerds that will always do ****ed ** to cause drama. There will always be idiots to hate.
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.05 07:08:00 - [79] Just because we're beating down on an old and tired eve bully doesn't mean the end of EVE. It will become a better place with fresh conflicts. This is an opportunity to leave that old **** behind us, nothing more, nothing less. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Klyith Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 07:49:00 - [80] Originally by: Hyveres Might just be a highsec carebear reading to much caod ,but I seem to remember statements from goons , pl and nc a few months back that if kenny claimed another region you would follow them there and eradicate them nomatter what. The goal of the conflict being the breakup of your opponents , not territory. Did that change? nah, we will let them take some low-end **ty region. We'll just laugh at them in their new crap home. Constant *****ging from gs, pl, ra, and nc would be another matter. If they don't just dissolve, that is. The new plan is to kill all the highsec carebears.
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 08:59:00 - [81] Originally by: Klyith Originally by: Hyveres Might just be a highsec carebear reading to much caod ,but I seem to remember statements from goons , pl and nc a few months back that if kenny claimed another region you would follow them there and eradicate them nomatter what. The goal of the conflict being the breakup of your opponents , not territory. Did that change? nah, we will let them take some low-end **ty region. We'll just laugh at them in their new crap home. Constant ***ging from gs, pl, ra, and nc would be another matter. If they don't just dissolve, that is. The new plan is to kill all the highsec carebears. Actually I'm quite looking forward to when we reset goons and truly return to using our ** goons pass, roaming Delve with Awox and The Monkeysphere will be hilarious.
hammyhamm Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:07:00 - [82] I have said this before and will repeat for posterity: I want to prevent any one group from having control of the entire of 0.0 such as Band of Brothers attempted (and failed). One power in control will stagnate the game, and that is something I do not desire. The "Nap-train" of GoonSwarm/NC/PL/TCF/RA/xDeath is unlikely to remain forever. Stop worrying about us controlling your T2 ship prices (ahahaha we do) and please continue carrying on as a bunch of useless pubbies. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
fugazii Minmatar the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:17:00 - [83] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Teki Caldrum This isn't a conflict of skill. where has there been a conflict of skill in eve? In recent times not so much, everything has become cookie cutter, and it's merely down to luck with dd's, bubble placements, timers, and lag now. However looking back to the days when a major fleet fight involved less than 250 people. Large alliances were not massive pvp organizations(for the most part) and "carebear" operations were small organizations leeching off, where it was reversed then. When an average pvp group comprised of few pilots fighting large isk making organizations rarely fighting in an even fight. Where holding a station meant you could defend it 23/7 because of no sov rather than defending it when pos's exited reinforced. When invading someone required commitment -you lived in space, you didn't have pos's, you didn't have carriers for refuel, you didn't have warp to 0, you didn't have smugglers gates, you had nothing but what you brought. There's reasons why m0o, Space Invaders, Biomass, F-E, M3G4, Zombie, Burn Eden, oldschool BoB/Celest ect will always be remembered, -it's not because they could raise 100 players at the drop of a dime to combat your 100, it's because they could raise 20 players and beat your 100. There was a time when EVE required skill, however for the most part it's long gone. =wall of text=
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:22:00 - [84] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Helen Originally by: Teki Caldrum This isn't a conflict of skill. where has there been a conflict of skill in eve? In recent times not so much, everything has become cookie cutter, and it's merely down to luck with dd's, bubble placements, timers, and lag now. However looking back to the days when a major fleet fight involved less than 250 people. Large alliances were not massive pvp organizations(for the most part) and "carebear" operations were small organizations leeching off, where it was reversed then. When an average pvp group comprised of few pilots fighting large isk making organizations rarely fighting in an even fight. Where holding a station meant you could defend it 23/7 because of no sov rather than defending it when pos's exited reinforced. When invading someone required commitment -you lived in space, you didn't have pos's, you didn't have carriers for refuel, you didn't have warp to 0, you didn't have smugglers gates, you had nothing but what you brought. There's reasons why m0o, Space Invaders, Biomass, F-E, M3G4, Zombie, Burn Eden, oldschool BoB/Celest ect will always be remembered, -it's not because they could raise 100 players at the drop of a dime to combat your 100, it's because they could raise 20 players and beat your 100. There was a time when EVE required skill, however for the most part it's long gone. =wall of text= I tried to fix this by adding paragraphs but I read about 2 sentences in and your blatant misuse of punctuation, grammar and sentence structure punched me in the ****, at which point I ctrl+z'd all my changes and wrote this reply
Elo Behram Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:25:00 - [85] stupid pubbie doesn't realize that goonswarm is going to invade fountain after querious is secure, this was all planned by the mittani at the 2009 BOB BBQ pandemic legion prepare to be owned ~
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:32:00 - [86] Originally by: Elo Behram stupid pubbie doesn't realize that goonswarm is going to invade fountain after querious is secure, this was all planned by the mittani at the 2009 BOB BBQ pandemic legion prepare to be owned Well we all know Band of Brothers is the best corp in goonswarm, that would only make the invasion a year late
Hinkledolph Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:40:00 - [87] Originally by: Elohe uncultured swaines can not fully apreciate the beauty behind a perfeclty crafted croissant Only the ones with the flu...
Shaemell Buttleson Minmatar Euphoria Released	Posted - 2009.05.05 09:54:00 - [88] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Teki Caldrum This isn't a conflict of skill. where has there been a conflict of skill in eve? Alliance tournement?
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.05 10:02:00 - [89] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Originally by: Helen Originally by: Teki Caldrum This isn't a conflict of skill. where has there been a conflict of skill in eve? Alliance tournement?
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.05 10:05:00 - [90] Edited by: Admiral Frools on 05/05/2009 10:06:09 Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Originally by: Helen Originally by: Teki Caldrum This isn't a conflict of skill. where has there been a conflict of skill in eve? Alliance tournement? You'd think so but it's not, very few of the fights are actually dictated by pilot skill and most are simply decided by the setups fielded (or tactics in certain situations but that heavily revolves around the setups fielded). Obviously a good setup flown poorly will fail and a bad setup flown well might beat it, but in a game where you navigate a ship in 3d via double click, you're left with quite limited room for pilot skill to be a deciding factor.

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