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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:30:00 -
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Please note, this is not a discussion of any particular action by the mod squad but instead refers to a glaring loophole that basically permits mods to write their own rules based on their own personal interpretation of what is permissible and what isn't. This is flat out wrong, you can't make the rules up as you go.
You can't expect your customers to read your minds, and if you lot can't be arsed to POPULATE YOUR OWN FORUM FILTER with those forbidden words and phrases its pretty damn unfair to your customers when they think something is ok and CCP has other thoughts.
I refer you to section 19 of the forum rules.
Avoid using profanity.
Using partial masking (such as asterisks or punctuation marks) to bypass the profanity filter is prohibited and will result in the same action as if the actual word had been typed.
You can not expect people from a mix of countries around the world to know explicitly what YOU consider to be profanity. If CCP feels something is not acceptable it NEEDS TO GO IN THE FILTER
ESPECIALLY IF IT IS NOT SOMETHING EASILY RECOGNIZABLE AS PROFANITY, AND MAY IN FACT BE A TERM WIDELY USED MY MANY PEOPLE!
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:33:00 -
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We will not be publishing a list of unacceptable words. The rule of thumb is don't use language that would not be acceptable in polite company. Our filter uses both English and foreign language words. When a word is accidentally being filtered that should not be, file a petition and we will add it to the whitelist. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:35:00 -
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Just google "George Carlin Seven Words" |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:38:00 -
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Here is a partial list:
**** **** **** **** |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:39:00 -
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Simply put do not repeat any word any good FC uses to describe your actions, fitting or general capabilities in fleet management/warfare. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:44:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:We will not be publishing a list of unacceptable words. The rule of thumb is don't use language that would not be acceptable in polite company. Our filter uses both English and foreign language words. When a word is accidentally being filtered that should not be, file a petition and we will add it to the whitelist.
well for my specific beef please reference 2607846
and for my general beef the forums are unfinished and people are getting TOS's for words you folks have simply not bothered to include in the filter, I can't really make it more simple than that without evoking another TOS for discussing a specific mod action.
as far as "polite company" goes, sure its a nice phrase and all, but its virtually meaningless in 2011, my mother cusses like a longshoreman and most of the people I know in eve can't go five minutes without using the N word and the J word in casual conversation.
"Polite Company" yeah, its sure nice to be able to put the responsibility on the user and not yourselves when you have the tools and the manpower but can't be bothered to do the work.
really, how long does it take to copy/pasta words into a flat file, and shouldn't we expect you to actually do it?
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Ranger64511
Operational Detachment-Alpha The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:46:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Here is a partial list:
**** **** **** ****
Hey how did you know? Amazing I didn't know **** and **** and **** and **** were on the filters.
Join Us In the PEW PEW Operational Detachment-Alpha CEO |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:47:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Simply put do not repeat any word any good FC uses to describe your actions, fitting or general capabilities in fleet management/warfare.
Lets see, words you would not use in your place of business. Words that are inflammatory and should NOT be used while speaking to costumers and/ or bosses.
If you haven't learned them yet, then you need too.
Capitals (Balancing and Roles) |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
27
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Posted - 2011.09.15 14:51:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:Simply put do not repeat any word any good FC uses to describe your actions, fitting or general capabilities in fleet management/warfare. Lets see, words you would not use in your place of business. Words that are inflammatory and should NOT be used while speaking to costumers and/ or bosses. If you haven't learned them yet, then you need too.
so then if southpark devoted an entire episode (including title and song) to it, its not ok or its ok? we talk about SP at work all the time
this is my point, one mans comedy is another mans profanity, and this is why we have filters, so there is no question about it when a questionable word comes up. |
toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:02:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:We will not be publishing a list of unacceptable words. The rule of thumb is don't use language that would not be acceptable in polite company. Our filter uses both English and foreign language words. When a word is accidentally being filtered that should not be, file a petition and we will add it to the whitelist.
**********
cause I don't think anyone outside this game would concider that word would be unacceptable in polite company. give you a hint between J and L |
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RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
105
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:04:00 -
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can we get * banned also ;-p[ http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
105
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:04:00 -
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can we get * banned also ;-p http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:13:00 -
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scunthorp CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
61
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:18:00 -
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Morganta wrote:my mother cusses like a longshoreman and most of the people I know in eve can't go five minutes without using the N word and the J word in casual conversation.
I guarantee I can outcurse anyone here, including mom's. And like I said, we will not be providing a copy of the blacklist.
CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:20:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Simply put do not repeat any word any good FC uses to describe your actions, fitting or general capabilities in fleet management/warfare. You mean like "your fit is ****, you're going to die in a fire"? Or "What the ****", or "******* *** ** * ***** *** ***** ** ****"?
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
61
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:25:00 -
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For the record, the blacklist filter has not been changed in years with the exception of when we were spammed by RMT bots several years ago (we added the URLs they were spamming with as a temporary stop measure, and then removed them).
The whitelist is frequently updated, however. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:26:00 -
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If a word isn't filtered by the profanity filter then it's hardly our fault if you have a part list of filtered words and we stumble upon one that isn't. If anything you should simply add that word to the filter rather than go around heavy handed with the bannings because you are too incompetent and inconsistent to do your job properly. |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:28:00 -
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just for the record, the filter HAS changed, perhaps not the word list, but the way it is implemented. There are a lot of terms that are now, as per your filtering system, permissible that were not in the past. |
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
61
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:43:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:If a word isn't filtered by the profanity filter then it's hardly our fault if you have a part list of filtered words and we stumble upon one that isn't. If anything you should simply add that word to the filter rather than go around heavy handed with the bannings because you are too incompetent and inconsistent to do your job properly.
We will remove messages that violate the forum rules. I can't recall any forum ban that was done simply because someone used a word that was not on the filter. I've been here three years (in ten days). CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.15 15:44:00 -
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Kitty McKitty wrote:just for the record, the filter HAS changed, perhaps not the word list, but the way it is implemented. There are a lot of terms that are now, as per your filtering system, permissible that were not in the past.
Different software handles the same exact blacklist differently. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.15 16:00:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Morganta wrote:my mother cusses like a longshoreman and most of the people I know in eve can't go five minutes without using the N word and the J word in casual conversation.
I guarantee I can outcurse anyone here, including mom's. And like I said, we will not be providing a copy of the blacklist.
I can vouch for this.
One of the funniest moments I've had on this job was when me and Fallout and some other people on our team were having a conference call and she read out a portion of the blacklist in the most tranquil, everyday manner. It sounded like a recital of the world's most horrible poem.
CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Mr M
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.09.15 16:01:00 -
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That's why Fittakan was blacklisted for a while. Oddly enough, Balle wasn't.
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.15 16:09:00 -
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I find it sad that we have a blacklist and yet homophobic insults are acceptable and do not get moderated. Moderation is a load of bollocks when it isn't applied evenly. |
Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.09.15 16:16:00 -
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It was funny when the Damnation was the Amarr ship that should not be named on the forum.
And of course the classics cockpit and skycraper. |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.09.15 17:07:00 -
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At least it's not the kind of cheesegrater that changes the words you write to something completly different if they're in the blacklist.
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Vicar2008
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.09.15 17:10:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Morganta wrote:my mother cusses like a longshoreman and most of the people I know in eve can't go five minutes without using the N word and the J word in casual conversation.
I guarantee I can outcurse anyone here, including mom's. And like I said, we will not be providing a copy of the blacklist.
Hmmm, sure you can outcurse a Scotsman that hails from Glasgow? Thats a pretty big boast your saying there..... |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
125
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Posted - 2011.09.15 17:21:00 -
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Vicar2008 wrote:CCP Fallout wrote:I guarantee I can outcurse anyone here, including mom's. And like I said, we will not be providing a copy of the blacklist. Hmmm, sure you can outcurse a Scotsman that hails from Glasgow? Thats a pretty big boast your saying there.....
She can. Trust me.
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
27
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Posted - 2011.09.15 17:27:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:CCP Fallout wrote:Morganta wrote:my mother cusses like a longshoreman and most of the people I know in eve can't go five minutes without using the N word and the J word in casual conversation.
I guarantee I can outcurse anyone here, including mom's. And like I said, we will not be providing a copy of the blacklist. I can vouch for this. One of the funniest moments I've had on this job was when me and Fallout and some other people on our team were having a conference call and she read out a portion of the blacklist in the most tranquil, everyday manner. It sounded like a recital of the world's most horrible poem.
we demand video
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mkint
4
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Posted - 2011.09.15 17:28:00 -
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If there were an accidental anonymous leak of the blacklist, I really would like adding some words to my everyday vocabulary... |
oematoema
The Muppet Show
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Posted - 2011.09.15 17:36:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:CCP Fallout wrote:Morganta wrote:my mother cusses like a longshoreman and most of the people I know in eve can't go five minutes without using the N word and the J word in casual conversation.
I guarantee I can outcurse anyone here, including mom's. And like I said, we will not be providing a copy of the blacklist. I can vouch for this. One of the funniest moments I've had on this job was when me and Fallout and some other people on our team were having a conference call and she read out a portion of the blacklist in the most tranquil, everyday manner. It sounded like a recital of the world's most horrible poem.
If that's so funny, why censor all that fun away? Is it only funny when read aloud? Statement on behalf of CCP from Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online. Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so. |
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