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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Love the lack of reading comprehension.
CCP said it wont install unless you want it to, yet you keep whining.
a-yup, these threads are why i still read GD. i get real pleasure out of watching idiots
CCP: this is optional, you have to choose to install it OP: OMG IS IT OPTIONAL? I'LL QUIT IF IT'S NOT CCP: yes, it's optional OP: OMG YOU'RE SO AVOIDING MY QUESTION, THIS IS A CONSPIRACY WE DEMAND TO KNOW IF IT'S OPTIONAL --
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.08 16:44:00 -
[62]
Oh btw CCP, Can we have an option to install an Astalavista toolbar in or browser? With the next patch? Thnx.
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Darth Vindictus
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Posted - 2009.05.08 16:45:00 -
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Pando= bad bad bad move by CCP!!! This service will leave EVE clients, and also computers with it installed WIDE open to hacks and attacks! Why would CCP even fathom using this piece of trash when there are so many better options out there? CCP should really re-think this or they are going to see a large rise in hacked accounts. It is a poorly written and virtually unsupported piece of no good trash. DON'T USE PANDO CCP you are simply inviting a lot of trouble for your clients and you will alienate many of them.
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.08 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marchocias
2) EVEN IF YOU INSTALL IT, YOU CAN JUST GO INTO THE SERVICES MANAGER IN WINDOWS AND DISABLE IT AFTERWARDS.
What about Starforce or the rootkits installed by Sony you ****ing moron.
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Korrakas
Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Vindictus Edited by: Darth Vindictus on 08/05/2009 16:49:09
Pando= bad bad bad move by CCP!!! This service will leave EVE clients, and also computers with it installed WIDE open to hacks and attacks! Why would CCP even fathom using this piece of trash when there are so many better options out there? CCP should really re-think this or they are going to see a large rise in hacked accounts. It is a poorly written and virtually unsupported piece of no good trash. DON'T USE PANDO CCP you are simply inviting a lot of trouble for your clients and you will alienate many of them. Optional or not most people do not know any better and will simply install it because they trust that CCP would never do anything to harm them intentionally or otherwise. Therefore the majority of those playing EVE will end up with Pando running on their systems.
this thread is starting to remind me of the comments page on a provocative youtube video..
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Vak''ran on 08/05/2009 17:06:34
Originally by: Faife
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Love the lack of reading comprehension.
CCP said it wont install unless you want it to, yet you keep whining.
a-yup, these threads are why i still read GD. i get real pleasure out of watching idiots sensible people
CCP: for now this is optional, you have to choose to install it OP: OMG IS IT OPTIONAL? I'LL QUIT IF IT'S NOT CCP: yes, it's optional, for now rest: can we have an option we can trust and operate ourselves please? could it remain an option please? what's with the huge holes in that EULA?
fixed some things you werent reading
edit: CCP needs this feedback, if nobody ever was critical or expressed their wishes... skynet
there is a much more sensible thread on game development where devs are thanking people for exactly what is said here. -----
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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:07:00 -
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This is from the Pando entry on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(application)
Originally by: Pando entry on Wikipedia Pando functions very much like any BitTorrent. It does, in fact, function as a normal BitTorrent client. Pando uses the BitTorrent protocol to transfer files.
So CCP, why not use ordinary vanilla BitTorrent that most of us already have!?!?!?!?
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:09:00 -
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nullá 0_o áá null
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:09:00 -
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OMG CCP HEARD I LIKED SOFTWARE SO THEY PUT SOFTWARE IN MY SOFTWARE EVERYBODY PANIC !!!1111
you ppl crack me up ---------- Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf***er. |
Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kale Kold on 08/05/2009 17:16:18
Originally by: HankMurphy OMG CCP HEARD I LIKED SOFTWARE SO THEY PUT SOFTWARE IN MY SOFTWARE EVERYBODY PANIC !!!1111 you ppl crack me up
You don't know what a service is do you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_service
Quote: On Microsoft Windows operating systems, a Windows service is a long-running executable that performs specific functions and which is designed not to require user intervention. Windows services can be configured to start when the operating system is booted and run in the background as long as Windows is running, or they can be started manually when required. They are similar in concept to a Unix daemon. Many appear in the processes list in the Windows Task Manager, most often with a username of SYSTEM, LOCAL SERVICE or NETWORK SERVICE, though not all processes with the SYSTEM username are services. The remaining services run through svchost.exe as DLLs loaded into memory.
Tell me again why we need another running to download a patch?
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Khorkrak
Gallente Megaparsec Imports
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:16:00 -
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You could just install linux and not worry about windows services and such being installed.
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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kale Kold on 08/05/2009 17:19:47
Originally by: Khorkrak You could just install linux and not worry about windows services and such being installed.
Yes but as much as i love ubuntu (and lets face it, it's the nearest you're gonna get to windows user friendly'ness atm), it isn't ready for the desktop just yet. Another 2-3 years and we should be there. Especially because microshaft keeps dropping the ball with vista/7 etc.
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eXeGee
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:20:00 -
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i accidentally agreed to install this thing while upgrading sisi client (404 error on patch)
fortunatelly i've unistalled it already, when noticed... it was eating 22MB of my memory!!!!111oneone thats way too much for a small deamon tbh
i hope ccp gonna make traditional patching available
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Idocrase
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:26:00 -
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Meh.
It's a service. Which means the socond reboot after installation, I will have killed it.
However. That does not mean I approve of it. Windows is lucky to have the services it does, and the notion of third party ones irritates the hells out of me. Especially a third party as utterly crap as pando. GTFO my Eve folder.
I will not be agreeing to install it.
If it installs anyway, I will kill it. And sending angry emails all over the place. (E-threats, woo hoo!)
If it becomes mandatory...
I will go back to my private Freelancer server, invite a few dozen friends, and never arse around with patches for any game ever again.
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ZinderX500
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: ZinderX500 on 08/05/2009 17:28:12 Edited by: ZinderX500 on 08/05/2009 17:27:49
Originally by: CCP Hypnotic
"Please note that there is no intention of replacing the primary download system (BITS) at this time"
Epic.
Originally by: Vir Hellnamin
Then, to be clear: option b) is total bull****. Already mentioned in GDF thread that Chribba's running web-peer&torrent in eve-files.com which is what CCP's trying to "achieve"... CCP could just ask Chribba "to the rescue".
WTH? With Chribba's site i can use WHATEVER CLIENT I FRAKIN CHOOSE to download the files. Not some pando pondo crap.
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Its more efficient, will be faster and doesnt use nearly as much server bandwidth but I still dont get why they have to reinvent the wheel and install a daemon in peoples systems when there are plenty of torrent clients.
I thought we are already paying for this bandwidth ?
So i guess that when CCP introduces this pondo thing, people that will use it will also get cheaper subscription prices ? NO.
Also, boot.ini was optional as well AT THIS TIME.
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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: eXeGee fortunatelly i've unistalled it already, when noticed... it was eating 22MB of my memory!!!!111oneone thats way too much for a small deamon tbh
OMG!!!
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Viqer Fell
Minmatar When Hippo Attacks Go Wrong
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:32:00 -
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This is progress people.
Last year on these forums people were banging on about sad panda's. Now it's evolved into sad pando's.
In 2010 it'll be bad pando's and then next thing you know we'll have forgotten what we were talking about....
Sounds to me like a classic case of people shouting rabble rabble rabble about something trivial because they've nothing serious to worry about. Install it if you want to accept having it on your pc. Don't install it if you don't.
I fail to see the issue for non-idiots who make informed choices and don't just click yes because they're too lazy to pay attention to what they're doing.
Sig removed, only one image per sig - Mitnal 6 years in eve and all I got was this cr*p sig bumper sticker from Mitnal :P |
Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:32:00 -
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When the BBC first launched its iPlayer they used kservice p2p to download the programmes. It caused them so much grief that they quickly adopted streaming as the way to watch. I am sure that CCP's bandwidth bills are high, but compared to the cost of having to deal with the thousands of customer service enquires caused because they can't test their p2p program in all the setups that the users have, it is peanuts.
And ****ed off customers are far less likely to resubscribe.
So CCP, go speak to the beeb.
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Idocrase
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres When the BBC first launched its iPlayer they used kservice p2p to download the programmes. It caused them so much grief that they quickly adopted streaming as the way to watch. I am sure that CCP's bandwidth bills are high, but compared to the cost of having to deal with the thousands of customer service enquires caused because they can't test their p2p program in all the setups that the users have, it is peanuts.
And ****ed off customers are far less likely to resubscribe.
So CCP, go speak to the beeb.
Wasn't that Channel4 on Demand? Cos that STILL uses KService.
Only thing BBC is good for is Dr Who anyway.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:42:00 -
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WHY CALM DOWN AND THINK WHEN SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS IS SO MUCH MORE FUN ?!?! -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2009.05.08 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Idocrase
Wasn't that Channel4 on Demand? Cos that STILL uses KService.
Only thing BBC is good for is Dr Who anyway.
When it was first launched the iPlayer used kservice. Originally it just installed and ran kservice with no limits on bandwidth, causing some people to get their broadband usage resticted by their ISP. Then they changed to the iPlayer download manager, which allowed you to set some stuff to do with the p2p. And finally that was replaced by the BBC iPlayer Desktop which has lost the p2p.
The beeb is also good for Top Gear. And the smut to BBC 4.
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Marcus Mannimarco
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: Something Random Why do you want to make people do this ? whats the plan ?
Probably trying to save a buck by using our bandwidth instead of theirs!
I'm going to put this very bluntly, so that there is no room for misunderstanding.
Don't like the product? **** off and stop buying. It's not like anyone's forcing you to buy anything. You're just one customer in a goddamn sea of customers. I doubt no one will miss a couple conspiracy theorists.
I for one, am all in for p2p networking. More bandwidth, faster speeds, easier access, better time. Good developement 10/10.
I do feel for those people who's ISPs don't allow p2p networking, if there are such, luckily you don't have to use the service.
For others, you have your answer.
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:08:00 -
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That service is called 'boot.ini'?
It sure ain't gonna be installed on my puters evah. Why not use the plain bittorrent way if you're hurtin for bandwith.
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Shy1
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Mannimarco
Don't like the product? **** off and stop buying. It's not like anyone's forcing you to buy anything. You're just one customer in a goddamn sea of customers. I doubt no one will miss a couple conspiracy theorists.
That approach is not really good customer relations is it. I bet SOE thought that while developing the NGE for SWG and look how that ended. CCP should never take any of their customers for granted.
Originally by: Marcus Mannimarco I for one, am all in for p2p networking. More bandwidth, faster speeds, easier access, better time. Good developement 10/10.
So am i, but P2P networking and stealth services are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT issues!!!
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:19:00 -
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armageddon is comming and he got beams run away \o/
if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
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Qwyp
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:25:00 -
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nice so even when logged out of eve the service stays running using your bandwidth to upload client to others...
uhm a lot of people's isps's are turning to tier'ed usage and giving limits. Also for people with crappy connections will suck if they don't know how to configure it and it's using most the bandwidth causing them to lag all the time in eve and eventually give up.
Or some unsuspecting guy gets an insane isp bill cause he didn't know or something.
still a bad idea to have a p2p service installed that runs permanently that most noobs don't know how to do anything with it.
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Hepziba
Canadian Imperial Armaments Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:26:00 -
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I'm unsure why CCP would use Pando unless it was either 1) personally used by CCP staff already (which I don't think it's a good idea to base a wide commercial use off of personal use experience), 2) Pando is paying them to use their software and 3) CCP is either taking quite a load on their bandwidth and would like to free some up.
I say that Pando is paying them and not just giving them software for free to test or experiement with because there is just as simple a solution that's also free (bittorent). I could also be completely wrong and we are all just tinfoil hat-wearing crazies, but I can't think of another reason to use a paid service over a free one. I've never heard of or dealt with Pando until now, but a quick search of Pando implies that it is a very invasive piece of software.
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Cypherous on 08/05/2009 18:27:59 Sounds fine to me, and to the people whining about security, if your PC is the only line of defense on your network you have bigger things to deal with than this service --------- Liberty Rogues Site[/center]
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tal'Shiar
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Love the lack of reading comprehension.
CCP said it wont install unless you want it to, yet you keep whining.
a-yup, these threads are why i still read GD. i get real pleasure out of watching idiots
CCP: this is optional, you have to choose to install it OP: OMG IS IT OPTIONAL? I'LL QUIT IF IT'S NOT CCP: yes, it's optional OP: OMG YOU'RE SO AVOIDING MY QUESTION, THIS IS A CONSPIRACY WE DEMAND TO KNOW IF IT'S OPTIONAL
fatastic - lots of lols
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Kleitos
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:31:00 -
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Sorry if this is already covered somewhere, but is there anywhere to just download the .torrent files for the patches and use our own BitTorrent program to download this?
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