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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kale Kold on 08/05/2009 12:09:13
Originally by: CCP Mephysto Some of you may have noticed we are testing a new method of downloading the installer for Singularity. This system, called Pando, is a hybrid http download and p2p download system that should allow for much faster downloads to occur. The system operates similarly to bittorrent, and will install a small daemon on your PC that will allow the p2p component to work.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1065424
In the next patch CCP are planning to install a daemon program on YOUR computer to download patches via a P2P network. They are going to make this mandatory and without your permission!!! Some ISPs don't allow access to P2P networks either!
NO THANK YOU!!! MAKE THIS AN OPTION BEFORE INSTALLATION!!! NOT AFTER!!!
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Vir Hellnamin
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:07:00 -
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"Please note that there is no intention of replacing the primary download system (BITS) at this time, this would be offered as well as / in place of the bittorrent option." -- "Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi [GRD]
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Cadela Fria
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/05/2009 12:08:21 1. ""Please note that there is no intention of replacing the primary download system (BITS) at this time, this would be offered as well as / in place of the bittorrent option.""
2. So don't download the client..more bandwidth for the rest of us.
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Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rivqua on 08/05/2009 12:08:17
Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: CCP Mephysto Some of you may have noticed we are testing a new method of downloading the installer for Singularity. This system, called Pando, is a hybrid http download and p2p download system that should allow for much faster downloads to occur. The system operates similarly to bittorrent, and will install a small daemon on your PC that will allow the p2p component to work.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1065424
In the next patch CCP are planning to install a daemon program on YOUR computer to download patches via a P2P network. They are going to make this mandatory and without your permission!!!
NO THANK YOU!!! MAKE THIS AN OPTION BEFORE INSTALLATION!!! NOT AFTER!!!
some cheese with that whine? _________________ - Rivqua - --- R.E.P.O. --- |
Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kale Kold on 08/05/2009 12:11:36
Originally by: Vir Hellnamin "Please note that there is no intention of replacing the primary download system (BITS) at this time, this would be offered as well as / in place of the bittorrent option."
You must like bloat and extra services running wether you use them or not then??? This should be an installation OPTION not installed by default!
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: Vir Hellnamin "Please note that there is no intention of replacing the primary download system (BITS) at this time, this would be offered as well as / in place of the bittorrent option."
You must like bloat and extra services running wether you use them or not then???
I don't use capships and POS labs — they're just bloat and should be removed as well. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Fulber
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:19:00 -
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So let's see...
We have the plain normal BitTorrent method of distributed bandwidth loading, which uses any one of a number of small, light, free client programs, most of which can be configured to only use a certain amount of bandwidth.
There's the Blizzard method, which is a separate patching program that uses BitTorrent to ease the load off of their own servers, but once done with it's not running. (This may have changed in the two years since I gave up that horrible game)
Then we could go with a BitTorrent engine inside the actual client, set to use upload bandwidth very conservatively so that normal gameplay isn't interrupted and stops when you exit.
But no, let's go all invasive and install a bloody background process to distribute our patches! |
Jupiter Contraction
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:30:00 -
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Being a devout Catholic I resent the fact that CCP will be manifesting the dark arts in my PC.
I think I may have to leave the game and no you can't my stuff because all your souls are now damned.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jupiter Contraction I think I may have to leave the game and no you can't my stuff because all your souls are now damned.
True, but so is your stuff — better send it back where it belongs before it infests the innocent… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Dear Abby
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:40:00 -
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Almost as classic as deleting peoples boot.ini files -
At least you can disable/limit this somehow as stated in the other thread of course technically that violates the panda eula that you agree to in order to install their software.
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Akutarou
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:45:00 -
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Yay, Pando. Had my fans freak out (i.e CPU temp went up) and stopped responding last time I dealt with it, downloading some other MMO client.
Then again, next try everything went fine and resume worked dandy.
Though, as this isn't obligatory, what's the harm?
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Alacante
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:46:00 -
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atleast they've told us about it, not telling us would be more offensive, oh and btw u signed the T&C on signup so they're entitled to put whatever they want in the directory aslong as it doesnt mess with other files... remember when you buy the game its the liscence not the game ;)
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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Alacante atleast they've told us about it, not telling us would be more offensive, oh and btw u signed the T&C on signup so they're entitled to put whatever they want in the directory aslong as it doesnt mess with other files... remember when you buy the game its the liscence not the game ;)
Please show me the license text where it says that they are allowed to install a P2P service (daemon) on my PC. Services run in the background at ALL TIMES!! consuming RAM and CPU cycles. A Service isn't something that runs only when EVE is running!
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Adeline Grey
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: Alacante atleast they've told us about it, not telling us would be more offensive, oh and btw u signed the T&C on signup so they're entitled to put whatever they want in the directory aslong as it doesnt mess with other files... remember when you buy the game its the liscence not the game ;)
Please show me the license text where it says that they are allowed to install a P2P service (daemon) on my PC. Services run in the background at ALL TIMES!! consuming RAM and CPU cycles. A Service isn't something that runs only when EVE is running!
Shut up.
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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Pando EULA In order to use the Services, you hereby grant permission for the Software to utilize the processor and bandwidth of your computer for the limited purposes of (i) facilitating the transfer of digital files and communication between the users of the Software and the Services and (ii) facilitating the transfer of digital files to servers for purposes of posting content on websites or blogs and (iii) pasting links to content in instant messages and RSS feeds.
http://www.pando.com/eula
This means the software will hijack your internet connection to spread whatever file CCP wants.
This is Malware!!!
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:40:00 -
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Yup, malware through and through
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Veskya
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:42:00 -
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I certainly dont want such crap installed on my PC either...
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:47:00 -
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Expected diabolarie left disappointed.
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Matrix Skye
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: Pando EULA In order to use the Services, you hereby grant permission for the Software to utilize the processor and bandwidth of your computer for the limited purposes of (i) facilitating the transfer of digital files and communication between the users of the Software and the Services and (ii) facilitating the transfer of digital files to servers for purposes of posting content on websites or blogs and (iii) pasting links to content in instant messages and RSS feeds.
http://www.pando.com/eula
This means the software will hijack your internet connection to spread whatever file CCP wants.
This is Malware!!!
If this is true then the man's got a point .
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Jerera
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:54:00 -
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Haha, I use FreeBSD, so this crap will never run on my PC ! But yeah, you are obviously interested in my post because you're now reading my signature. |
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CCP Hypnotic
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:55:00 -
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Others have already quoted the important part of the original message. Here it is again just for clarity:
"Please note that there is no intention of replacing the primary download system (BITS) at this time, this would be offered as well as / in place of the bittorrent option."
What this line means is that you will have two options if you wish to download the full installer from our website (Patches will not be changed at all). You can either (a) click the link and download the file directly from our servers just like you always have, or you can (b) choose to use the new downloader that installs a daemon. Totally up to you.
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 08/05/2009 13:56:28 nvm |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 13:57:00 -
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Quote: facilitating the transfer of digital files to servers for purposes of posting content on websites or blogs and (iii) pasting links to content in instant messages and RSS feeds.
If this is indeed the case, then it is just wrong that CCP uses this crap, no matter if it is a choice or not. This is just a spam bot.
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Kambiri Zoltana
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:03:00 -
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IS their a way to hack the deamon crap of my computer?
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Kale Kold
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hypnotic (b) choose to use the new downloader that installs a daemon. Totally up to you.
What we want to know is do we get a choice on wether or not the software is actually installed, NOT if we are going to use it or not!!!
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: CCP Hypnotic (b) choose to use the new downloader that installs a daemon. Totally up to you.
What we want to know is do we get a choice on wether or not the software is actually installed, NOT if we are going to use it or not!!!
^^ This, tbh.
There's a huge difference between an optional install and optional use. The latter is not enough. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: CCP Hypnotic (b) choose to use the new downloader that installs a daemon. Totally up to you.
What we want to know is do we get a choice on wether or not the software is actually installed, NOT if we are going to use it or not!!!
I thought you were a conspiracy nut at first, but the more I read this thread the more I too would like an answer to this.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kambiri Zoltana IS their a way to hack the deamon crap of my computer?
yes - don't use that option -- RaTTuS @ InEve, Capital Prints for sale |
Capella
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:13:00 -
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I don't care about the option of using it or not. I care about it being installed on my computer as a mandatory option.
If it IS the case that the software has to be installed regardless or whether I use it or not then here are two account subscriptions that are being cancelled. Simple as that.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:17:00 -
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Before everyone goes emo, just read what he wrote: You can CHOOSE to use a downloader that INSTALLS that crap. So if you dont choose to use that downloader, obviously nothing will be installed. Just use the normal downloader and there is no problem.
However my problem is that apparently CCP cooperates now with spammers (if that part copied from the eula is correct, then they are just spammers).
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