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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.09.05 02:50:00 -
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Had a little idea on this which is a hybrid of thigns which have been suggested before.
Now its been sadi before that BPO's should be removed and that all blueprints should be BPC, however this makes the RnD side of things obsolete as u cant research BPC's.
On the other hand if there are no BPO's then BPC for all items can be released on the market giving smaller corps the chance to get in a small portion of the market.
Compromise
1) Remove BPO's from the game and replace them with high run BPC's, e.g. 100-10000 (more or less depending on item type), with the rareer blueprint still beign released through agents, but more often and to move people.
2) Now with any BPC u can do research to increase mineral effiency etc
3) BPC cant be copied but they can be split. so a 1000 run BPC can be broken down into 10 x 100 run copies using a lab slot.
Result
1)What would this do ? well basically it would result into a greater numebr of corps having BPC's and while the alrger corp will proabably get more copies there will still be amrket competition from the little guy to keep exhorbornet prices a tad lower.
2) and 3) This would not take away the effectiveness of anyone who has trained as a researcher as they can still aquire BPC's and research BPC with a high copy number and then split them into several BPC with smaller number of runs and sell these on escrow for a tidy profit.
e.g. Someone could buy a 10run BPC of a Megathron off the market for 20million research the mineral effecency, split the copies into singles and sell for 2.3million give or take depding on amout of ME.
In additon the market could offer a range of BPC runs for the meag like 10,100 and 1000. Thus if your bought a 1000run copy the research time goes on all the runs so you end up with a greater number of high ME BPC runs compared to somone who buys a 10BPC run.
e.g.
1BPC copy person does 1 week of research
10BPC copy person does 1 week of research
100BPC copy person does 1 week of research
after week id finished copies are split into singles
1 x 1 run (1 week of research)
10 x 1 run (10 weeks worth of research)
100 x 1 run (100 weeks worth of research)
Thus big corps can capitise on having a large wallet to buy high BPC runs while the small time corp can still get in on the market by buying lower copy runs , which is less effective but still works and can turn a profit.
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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.09.05 02:50:00 -
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Had a little idea on this which is a hybrid of thigns which have been suggested before.
Now its been sadi before that BPO's should be removed and that all blueprints should be BPC, however this makes the RnD side of things obsolete as u cant research BPC's.
On the other hand if there are no BPO's then BPC for all items can be released on the market giving smaller corps the chance to get in a small portion of the market.
Compromise
1) Remove BPO's from the game and replace them with high run BPC's, e.g. 100-10000 (more or less depending on item type), with the rareer blueprint still beign released through agents, but more often and to move people.
2) Now with any BPC u can do research to increase mineral effiency etc
3) BPC cant be copied but they can be split. so a 1000 run BPC can be broken down into 10 x 100 run copies using a lab slot.
Result
1)What would this do ? well basically it would result into a greater numebr of corps having BPC's and while the alrger corp will proabably get more copies there will still be amrket competition from the little guy to keep exhorbornet prices a tad lower.
2) and 3) This would not take away the effectiveness of anyone who has trained as a researcher as they can still aquire BPC's and research BPC with a high copy number and then split them into several BPC with smaller number of runs and sell these on escrow for a tidy profit.
e.g. Someone could buy a 10run BPC of a Megathron off the market for 20million research the mineral effecency, split the copies into singles and sell for 2.3million give or take depding on amout of ME.
In additon the market could offer a range of BPC runs for the meag like 10,100 and 1000. Thus if your bought a 1000run copy the research time goes on all the runs so you end up with a greater number of high ME BPC runs compared to somone who buys a 10BPC run.
e.g.
1BPC copy person does 1 week of research
10BPC copy person does 1 week of research
100BPC copy person does 1 week of research
after week id finished copies are split into singles
1 x 1 run (1 week of research)
10 x 1 run (10 weeks worth of research)
100 x 1 run (100 weeks worth of research)
Thus big corps can capitise on having a large wallet to buy high BPC runs while the small time corp can still get in on the market by buying lower copy runs , which is less effective but still works and can turn a profit.
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.09.05 02:58:00 -
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umm, no... too much of a kick in the croch to all the people who have spent so much time playing the game
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RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.09.05 02:58:00 -
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umm, no... too much of a kick in the croch to all the people who have spent so much time playing the game
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RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:11:00 -
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well what if BPO owner were compensated for the change ?
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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:11:00 -
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well what if BPO owner were compensated for the change ?
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Pudface
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:16:00 -
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Player/Corp buys XXXXXX T2 BPO for LOTS CCP decides they like your idea Reimburses said Player/Corp not LOTS as the player cant realy prove he paid al of that for the said BPO as it may have been done long enough ago for CCP to have lost those logs with the transaction in.
thats just one side of the coin my head hurts so someone else can handle the otherside
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Pudface
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:16:00 -
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Player/Corp buys XXXXXX T2 BPO for LOTS CCP decides they like your idea Reimburses said Player/Corp not LOTS as the player cant realy prove he paid al of that for the said BPO as it may have been done long enough ago for CCP to have lost those logs with the transaction in.
thats just one side of the coin my head hurts so someone else can handle the otherside
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.05 07:17:00 -
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.... BPO's are not suposed to be removed... only the infinate runs BPC's
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.05 07:17:00 -
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.... BPO's are not suposed to be removed... only the infinate runs BPC's
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.09.05 07:55:00 -
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lol, stupid newbie, screw you. People who cant make money whine about it and want things changed. Well guess what, money attracts money so shut your mouth and go back into your hole.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.09.05 07:55:00 -
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lol, stupid newbie, screw you. People who cant make money whine about it and want things changed. Well guess what, money attracts money so shut your mouth and go back into your hole.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.09.05 08:42:00 -
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I'd rather see BPC's go away & BPO's be the only thing out there.
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Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.09.05 08:42:00 -
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I'd rather see BPC's go away & BPO's be the only thing out there.
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Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000
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loladoll
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Posted - 2004.09.05 08:46:00 -
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and why would you do that? It's a quit drastic change.
I oppose your proposal quit strongly
Or do you want to start a flame fest? I'll get my flamethrower if you want
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loladoll
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Posted - 2004.09.05 08:46:00 -
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and why would you do that? It's a quit drastic change.
I oppose your proposal quit strongly
Or do you want to start a flame fest? I'll get my flamethrower if you want
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live is tough and then you get a clone |
Bohr
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Phasics
well what if BPO owner were compensated for the change ?
Not possible to compensate for something unlimited :), so no.
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics
well what if BPO owner were compensated for the change ?
Not possible to compensate for something unlimited :), so no.
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Bohr on 05/09/2004 09:17:44
said it twice :P
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Bohr on 05/09/2004 09:17:44
said it twice :P
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Asmodia on 05/09/2004 09:31:58
phasic, you are dead meat 
One imporant reason for me to play Eve is my 151 BPO collection. Who try to tough this is dead. I paid a ****load of isk for them and i invested tons of time to reseach them.
I can understand if you would talk about the tech2 BPOs, because the ppl never paid a single isk for them. Changing the tech2 BPOs to max runs and give out more BPCs via agent wouldnt be bad.
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Asmodia on 05/09/2004 09:31:58
phasic, you are dead meat
One imporant reason for me to play Eve is my 151 BPO collection. Who try to tough this is dead. I paid a ****load of isk for them and i invested tons of time to reseach them.
I can understand if you would talk about the tech2 BPOs, because the ppl never paid a single isk for them. Changing the tech2 BPOs to max runs and give out more BPCs via agent wouldnt be bad.
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:52:00 -
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if you are talking to me Vegata know that i am not a silly n00b. i am just some one who is bussy with alot of things atm so i cant scan everything all the time 24/7
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:52:00 -
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if you are talking to me Vegata know that i am not a silly n00b. i am just some one who is bussy with alot of things atm so i cant scan everything all the time 24/7
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Dalmont Delantee
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:29:00 -
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From what I can tell owning Tech II BPO's the price is actually on all the component parts not what you would actually want to sell them for.
Do you really think we would want to sell them for 2-3 million when they are only slightly better than the original? You can only sell 2-3 a day when you can sell 20-30 if the prices were cheaper and make more money?
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Dalmont Delantee
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:29:00 -
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From what I can tell owning Tech II BPO's the price is actually on all the component parts not what you would actually want to sell them for.
Do you really think we would want to sell them for 2-3 million when they are only slightly better than the original? You can only sell 2-3 a day when you can sell 20-30 if the prices were cheaper and make more money?
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lagar
if you are talking to me Vegata know that i am not a silly n00b. i am just some one who is bussy with alot of things atm so i cant scan everything all the time 24/7
I was responding to the original poster
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lagar
if you are talking to me Vegata know that i am not a silly n00b. i am just some one who is bussy with alot of things atm so i cant scan everything all the time 24/7
I was responding to the original poster
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vegeta
lol, stupid newbie, screw you. People who cant make money whine about it and want things changed. Well guess what, money attracts money so shut your mouth and go back into your hole.
I never, ever thought I'd say this, but....
Right on, Vegeta!
Seriously, this has to be one of the stupidest ideas I've heard in a long time. Way to go stabbing everyone who's invested a year or so of their life in this game, straight in the heart. Brilliant!
Or not.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vegeta
lol, stupid newbie, screw you. People who cant make money whine about it and want things changed. Well guess what, money attracts money so shut your mouth and go back into your hole.
I never, ever thought I'd say this, but....
Right on, Vegeta!
Seriously, this has to be one of the stupidest ideas I've heard in a long time. Way to go stabbing everyone who's invested a year or so of their life in this game, straight in the heart. Brilliant!
Or not.
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