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Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.05.15 20:54:00 - [1] Hi, Cat here. I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. You can only pick one, and it must be a game mechanics annoyance rather than a bug etc. Mine is not being able to contract damaged items. x visit my blog for my adventures
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.15 20:57:00 - [2] When I selling stuff and some jackass undercuts me by 1 cent. Pomp FTW!!!
Devine13 Nomad LLP	Posted - 2009.05.15 20:57:00 - [3] Edited by: Devine13 on 15/05/2009 20:56:56 I hate Scotty the Docking Manager more than anything. Why won't you let me change ships in less than 20 seconds!?!?
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.05.15 20:57:00 - [4] Edited by: Zaqar on 15/05/2009 20:59:14 When you try to repackage a load of stuff, it stops when it gets to a damaged thing, rather than skipping over it and repackaging the rest of the stuff e: ok, probably not the most annoying, but it always bugs me
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.05.15 20:58:00 - [5] For me it is the Stargate System and how the game handles session changes in general. I consider it lazy game design. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Lazarann Caldari Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:00:00 - [6] Whiners? That's a mechanic right? Seriously though, aside from the one you mentioned...Getting a mission offer, declining it, getting the same one again, taking a standings hit and declining it AGAIN, and getting offered it AGAIN. Missions need more variety/entertainment. I don't mine but that could use some excitement too while we're at it.
Tressin Khiyne Minmatar The Tal'Shiar	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:01:00 - [7] not being able to sell faction loot on the market. -- Save the SEXY in EVE!
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:04:00 - [8] Edited by: Cat o''Ninetails on 15/05/2009 21:04:01 Originally by: Lazarann Whiners? That's a mechanic right? Seriously though, aside from the one you mentioned...Getting a mission offer, declining it, getting the same one again, taking a standings hit and declining it AGAIN, and getting offered it AGAIN. Missions need more variety/entertainment. I don't mine but that could use some excitement too while we're at it. I believe that was fixed in a patch a month or so ago. Actually, it annoyed me a little because I liked getting Recon twice in a row. visit my blog for my adventures
Lt Shard United Trade Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:04:00 - [9] Cat o'Ninetails OH WAIT _________________________ Yes, I know the Titan is small in my sig.
Lazarann Caldari Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Edited by: Cat o''Ninetails on 15/05/2009 21:04:01 Originally by: Lazarann Whiners? That's a mechanic right? Seriously though, aside from the one you mentioned...Getting a mission offer, declining it, getting the same one again, taking a standings hit and declining it AGAIN, and getting offered it AGAIN. Missions need more variety/entertainment. I don't mine but that could use some excitement too while we're at it. I believe that was fixed in a patch a month or so ago. Actually, it annoyed me a little because I liked getting Recon twice in a row. Well if they said it was, it wasn't because I got offered "Surprise Surprise!" three times in a row.

Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:09:00 - [11] Originally by: Devine13 Edited by: Devine13 on 15/05/2009 20:56:56 I hate Scotty the Docking Manager more than anything. Why won't you let me change ships in less than 20 seconds!?!? This always amuses me. The Docking manager is calling YOU scotty. "Hold on Scotty. The Docking manager estimates blah blah blah" Also its there so jita doesnt kill the server. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 ^Third Times a Charm^
Lazarann Caldari Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Blane Xero This always amuses me. The Docking manager is calling YOU scotty. "Hold on Scotty. The Docking manager estimates blah blah blah" Also its there so jita doesnt kill the server. Wait....there's a period after "Scotty"????? Proof or stfu! (I'm at work, can't check.)
Devine13 Nomad LLP	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Blane Xero This always amuses me. The Docking manager is calling YOU scotty. "Hold on Scotty. The Docking manager estimates blah blah blah" Also its there so jita doesnt kill the server. Wait....there's a period after "Scotty"????? Proof or stfu! (I'm at work, can't check.) THIS! I always thought it was "Scotty, the Docking Manager", a comma not a period. Proof plz (At work too lol)
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Lazarann Originally by: Blane Xero This always amuses me. The Docking manager is calling YOU scotty. "Hold on Scotty. The Docking manager estimates blah blah blah" Also its there so jita doesnt kill the server. Wait....there's a period after "Scotty"????? Proof or stfu! (I'm at work, can't check.) I believe theres a Comma, which is basically the same. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 ^Third Times a Charm^
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:35:00 - [15] The "that" which you can't do while warping, which you never find out what it is. -----------------------------------------------
Passageway Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:36:00 - [16] Or, a comma, which is basically entirely different to a "period" or full stop as we call them :D Periods are something else entirely over here :D
Devine13 Nomad LLP	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard The "that" which you can't do while warping, which you never find out what it is. A lot of the time I figure it is my afterburner, as I have it running when I press warp, which always ends in a "You cannot do that while warping". But there are times where I definitely can't figure out what "that" is..
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard The "that" which you can't do while warping, which you never find out what it is. This it can be soooooo annoying
Shinjo Bajahnhosuu Rule of Five	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Passageway Periods are something else entirely over here :D Which is almost as entertaining as the insanely different images the term '***** pack' conjures on either side of the pond. My pet-peeve is right-clicking...any right clicking.
Shinjo Bajahnhosuu Rule of Five	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Shinjo Bajahnhosuu Originally by: Passageway Periods are something else entirely over here :D Which is almost as entertaining as the insanely different images the term '***** pack' conjures on either side of the pond. My pet-peeve is right-clicking...any right clicking. Awesome ... you can't even say f-a-n-n-y without the board's profanity filter kicking ...

Blnukem 192 Amarr Revilers Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:48:00 - [21] The single most annoying thing in EVE: When CCP randomly nerfs stuff. The second most annoying thing in EVE: FALCONS! The third most annoying thing in EVE: ISK Sellers. ____________________________________________________________
Treelox Amarr Seppuku Warriors	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:58:00 - [22] Quote: What is the single most annoying thing? The OP --
Kretin Miscreants	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:59:00 - [23] you
Kyden Gallente Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:00:00 - [24] This has to be it [url=http://roadkill.igs-corp.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=41343] [/url]
Rramar Claime Amarr Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:00:00 - [25] CCP ------- "I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes."
Guillame Herschel Gallente Buffalo Soldiers	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:22:00 - [26] The Friends list in People and Places is only useful for listing enemies. If your Friend is online and he wants to talk to you, he will, so you don't need notice that he's online. And if he doesn't, why are you bothering your Friend? *-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then* --**
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:31:00 - [27] Originally by: Kyden This has to be it I'm glad you've learned that LetMeGoogleThatForYou link, it will surely increase your social standing on the internet. I must however question the relevance of your posting. Quote: I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. I was quite specific there. Do you want me Read That For You dot com? visit my blog for my adventures
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Intense Thinker When I selling stuff and some jackass undercuts me by 1 cent. This. No real world market or auction would let you under sell by 1 cent on 50 million dollar items. Ussually they have a minimum 1% or 5%. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Originally by: Kyden This has to be it I'm glad you've learned that LetMeGoogleThatForYou link, it will surely increase your social standing on the internet. I must however question the relevance of your posting. Quote: I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. I was quite specific there. Do you want me Read That For You dot com? I'll answer it honestly; The lack of space. K-Space to be exact. And "good" agents in K-Space. Its always the same, there is always one penultimate agent per region, and one semi-penultimate highsec version, and then again there are entire regions without decent agents. Also i just spent the best part of today probing 0.5 systems trying to find a damn complex or two to kill time with, and not one would let anything bigger than ASSAULT FRIGATES in. No Cruisers, or HAC's. In 0.5 Space. Yeah. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 ^Third Times a Charm^
SirFett Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:39:00 - [30] 87% of the devs

Tressin Khiyne Minmatar The Tal'Shiar	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:43:00 - [31] Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Intense Thinker When I selling stuff and some jackass undercuts me by 1 cent. This. No real world market or auction would let you under sell by 1 cent on 50 million dollar items. Ussually they have a minimum 1% or 5%. To be fair, if the system told you you couldn't price something .01 below another seller, you would quickly have a new annoying thing. I often purchase the most expensive of a set of things sepperated by .01, just because screw them. -- Save the SEXY in EVE!
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:45:00 - [32] Having all my chat tabs dissapear is most annoying.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Tressin Khiyne Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Intense Thinker When I selling stuff and some jackass undercuts me by 1 cent. This. No real world market or auction would let you under sell by 1 cent on 50 million dollar items. Ussually they have a minimum 1% or 5%. To be fair, if the system told you you couldn't price something .01 below another seller, you would quickly have a new annoying thing. I often purchase the most expensive of a set of things sepperated by .01, just because screw them. You're still buying from the cheapest offer in the station, they just get to keep your extra isk. but by all means keep doing this. The extra isk is appreciated. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 ^Third Times a Charm^
Rhinanna Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:14:00 - [34] Trying to fly round obstacles in space and ramming into them despite visually been at least 1-2 Km away.... Its made missions a major pain in cases..... I'm not saying they have to be perfect with the hit boxes but some of them are stupidly out of alignment with the visual representation of the object. We need to have some degree of knowledge about the universe we are flying in or it makes it very hard to play. Its damn annoying when you are slowed down or killed not by your own mistake but by a blatant game play bug.
Gealbhan Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:21:00 - [35] Well not so much annoys me but makes me go "Tch!" is that 1 second left to change ships thing, waste of clickage. Originally by: Reven Cordelle What do I do? Well half the time, I'm an Orca Pilot - So absolutely sweet F/A except hit F1 and F2 - sit back and feel my ass grow.
Kara Mitsui The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2009.05.16 01:54:00 - [36] Originally by: Blane Xero 21:35:39 Notify Please wait while ship is entering hangar.Scotty, the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. Its poor grammer at best. I guess you can take it either way. If its the docking manager being called scotty then the Comma is not needed, you just need a comma before it and after hangar; 21:35:39 Notify Please wait while ship is entering hangar, Scotty the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. Then again, if it was you being called scotty, it would prolly be worded as following; 21:35:39 Notify Please wait while ship is entering hangar Scotty. The Docking Manager estimates 27 seconds left. Also this has led me to realise that its quite grammatacally incorrect as a whole, its missing a Your and a The 21:35:39 Notify Please wait while "your" ship is entering "the" hangar.Scotty, the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. All that, just to avoid admitting you were wrong? Dude, the English language has rules, you can't just make them up to suit yourself. The position and need for a comma in that sentence is debatable, but the period is not. It means end of sentence, and it is obvious that the docking manager is called Scotty. There's not really any room for confusion. Just man up and admit you've misread it the whole time you've been playing. That's less dumb than trying to pretend the sentence is ambiguous. The one thing I hate about Eve is the comittment it requires. I cannot play casually, it's either 8 hours a day or nothing. But maybe that's just me.
Sumelar	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard The "that" which you can't do while warping, which you never find out what it is. Did you have an afterburner on when you went to warp? That's what it always is for me.
Golden Admiral	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:17:00 - [38] Setting up corporation roles and POS labs just to find out that my settings are not working as stated in the official guide.
Mrsticks Minmatar RNCGM Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:18:00 - [39] Originally by: Tressin Khiyne Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Intense Thinker When I selling stuff and some jackass undercuts me by 1 cent. This. No real world market or auction would let you under sell by 1 cent on 50 million dollar items. Ussually they have a minimum 1% or 5%. To be fair, if the system told you you couldn't price something .01 below another seller, you would quickly have a new annoying thing. I often purchase the most expensive of a set of things sepperated by .01, just because screw them. Simple Fix for this is to change it so you change the Percent you want to lower or raise it. Long Live TEXAS! Texans join the Texas channel in game plz.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:35:00 - [40] Edited by: Blane Xero on 16/05/2009 02:36:22 Originally by: Kara Mitsui All that, just to avoid admitting you were wrong? Dude, the English language has rules, you can't just make them up to suit yourself. The position and need for a comma in that sentence is debatable, but the period is not. It means end of sentence, and it is obvious that the docking manager is called Scotty. There's not really any room for confusion. Just man up and admit you've misread it the whole time you've been playing. That's less dumb than trying to pretend the sentence is ambiguous. In British English, you would usually get frowned upon for smacking a full stop in the middle of a sentence less than 20 words long, especially when the sentence makes perfect sense without it And considering the sentence itself is completely nonsensical, i.e missing the "your" (or the, although if grammatically correct it would refer to the ship in its possessive context, i.e your) from in between "While" and "ship" and then, you have the missing word between "Entering" and "Hanger" If it was Grammatically correct it would also be either Your or The. But since the hanger is technically in possession of the station, The would be the correct choice. Then, the illustrious Full Stop bang smack in the middle of, what would be a perfectly correct Sentence without it as the only purpose it serves is a pause, which is initially the Comma's purpose And because of this, the comma after Scotty makes no sense either, as it is not needed. Notify Please wait while "your" ship is entering "the" hangar, Scotty the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. Compared to; Notify Please wait while ship is entering hangar. Scotty, the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. But when it comes to grammar policing I usually refrain I love a good rant. Edit: Hell you could even put a roughly in between the Estimates and the amount of seconds left ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 ^Third Times a Charm^

Procopius	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:35:00 - [41] My #1 = ISK sellers, particularly ruining many chats. Can't WAIT till CCP bans ISK selling chat scriptors. But really I cant for them to ban any chat scriptors.
Mr Reason	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:38:00 - [42] Having the 'allow yes/no' check at the END of making a contract, so you go through ALL the pages and then find that it won't work... #$%^@$!!
Professor Perplex	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:38:00 - [43] pos mechanics. everything about them. anchoring, onlining, reaction chains, fueling, module positioning. everything :) masochistic crap :)
Arron S Gallente Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2009.05.16 04:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Intense Thinker When I selling stuff and some jackass undercuts me by 1 cent. When a pile of Jackass's undercuts me by 100,000 isk instead of .01 and **** up my profit margins
Valorous Bob TARSHISH FOUNDATION	Posted - 2009.05.16 04:08:00 - [45] Originally by: Devine13 Edited by: Devine13 on 15/05/2009 20:56:56 I hate Scotty the Docking Manager more than anything. Why won't you let me change ships in less than 20 seconds!?!? this. _______________________________________________ Originally by: Governor LePetomane You know who I can't stand? Explorers. Smug, invisible bastards.
Queen Margaret	Posted - 2009.05.16 09:27:00 - [46] you have 10 ships in the hangar, and you know the module you need to grab, is fitted to one of those ships, but the ships won't tell you what modules they have fit! So you think the ship named "blinky" is fit with a buffer tank, but no its, smartbombs and you can waste minutes this way.
Miriel Amarinth	Posted - 2009.05.16 10:11:00 - [47] "When a pile of Jackass's undercuts me by 100,000 isk instead of .01 and ** up everyone's** profit margins"
Mikal Drey Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.16 10:25:00 - [48] hey hey can i haz 3 ? 1. no commas in isk ammounts (1000000.0 or 10000000.0) 2. sorting by numbers :/ 1 10 11 12 13. . 2 3 try it for yourself. open the corp member list and sort by time lowest first then scroll down :/ its also anoying in contracts when you want to sort by price :/ 3. isk cents and the wallet. 1.0 or 1.00 !!! add the double zero ffs. ( "you cant remove 1.00 isk because you only have 1.0 isk" ) Shattered Crystal - 60 day GTC
Lijhal FrEE d00M Fighters	Posted - 2009.05.16 10:43:00 - [49] caldaris at all
Dmitrii Kosakovich	Posted - 2009.05.16 10:44:00 - [50] The way ammunition groups up by type "EMP L, EMP M, EMP S" instead of by size. I'm not looking for EMP only, I don't think anyone does. I just want all the L charges to group together!

Captain Campion Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.05.16 10:47:00 - [51] When you fire your group of lasers and it says "gtfo one of your crystals has popped" - and there's no other way to get that information.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Kara Mitsui All that, just to avoid admitting you were wrong? Dude, the English language has rules, you can't just make them up to suit yourself. The position and need for a comma in that sentence is debatable, but the (need for the) period is not. It means end of sentence, and it is obvious that the docking manager is called Scotty. There's not really any room for confusion. On the other hand, if CCP made a mistake with their grammar, it could easily mean the opposite. Quote: Quote: Just man up and admit you've misread it the whole time you've been playing. That's less dumb than trying to pretend the sentence is ambiguous. In British English, you would usually get frowned upon for smacking a full stop in the middle of a sentence less than 20 words long, especially when the sentence makes perfect sense without it . This is false; there is nothing wrong with using short sentences. They can sound rather terse, but sometimes this is an effect that people want to achieve. Quote: ~~And~~ Considering (that) the sentence itself is completely nonsensical, i.e missing the 'your' (or 'the', although if grammatically correct it would refer to the ship in its possessive context, i.e 'your') from in between 'while' and 'ship'(,) and then, you have the missing word between 'entering' and ~~'Hanger'~~ ('hangar'.) I've cleaned up some of the spelling and grammar for you there. Quote: If it was grammatically correct it would also be either Your or The. ~~But~~ Since the hanger is technically in (the) possession of the station, The would be the correct choice. The hangar is part of the station (it does not own the station ) but is also associated with a single pilot. As the choice of hangar is clear from the context, a definite article is just as good as a possessive pronoun. Quote: Then, (there's) the illustrious Full Stop(,) smack bang in the middle of, what would be a perfectly correct sentence without it (as the only purpose it serves is a pause, which is ~~initially~~ the comma's purpose )(.) The missing verb needed to complete the above sentence has been provided for you. Quote: And because of this, the comma after Scotty makes no sense either, as it is not needed. Please avoid starting sentences with conjunctions. You can only get away with it when you write otherwise outstanding text. CCP's version: Quote: Please wait while ship is entering hangar. Scotty, the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. My rephrased version: 'Please wait while your ship is entering the hangar. Scotty, the docking manager, estimates that this will take another 27 seconds.' Now that we have a grammatically correct sentence, it only takes a few minor changes to get to the alternative interpretation of CCP's version: 'Please wait while your ship is entering the hangar, Scotty. The docking manager estimates that this will take another 27 seconds.' A clarification on this matter from CCP would be appreciated. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:29:00 - [53] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard The "that" which you can't do while warping, which you never find out what it is. it is the coffee machine apparently there some kind of safety mechanism which stops you from making coffee in space i dont think they realse that it doesn't matter if we get burnt or DIE were demi gods if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Hi, Cat here. I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. You can only pick one, and it must be a game mechanics annoyance rather than a bug etc. Mine is not being able to contract damaged items. x Good idea of a thread... Mine was unable to contract a ship with damaged droneswith no fit panel access (hte hsit gameplay). And how empire flagging system emphase empire piracy ( the carebear : vigilance 100%, the pirate, vigilance only when he wants) AND THIRD HOW SUCKY IS THE FORUM WITH FIREFOX damnit Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
King Rothgar Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:30:00 - [55] NPC AI, even the sleepers. It's beyond stupid, pve and pvp setups should be the same thing for the most part. NPC's should flee losing battles and should do human level damage and have human level tanks. You should have to warp scramble an NPC to actually kill them unless you manage to one volley them. And if massively outclassed they should just warp off before you get a lock (or try to). Making them properly choose targets is more difficult but surely CCP can do better than the current system of targeting whatever shows up first. There is no reason that npc's can't use the same ship mechanics players use and be fitted with common setups for pvp. It really isn't that complicated. On a related note, people playing an MMO as a single player game. Seriously, wtf. Missions in most MMO's require atleast a 4 man team to complete in any reasonable amount of time, eve's agent missions should do the same. Yes, a lvl1 mission should require 4-8 noobs in frigates to complete. It should be possible to fail missions as well. In duo of death as an example, if you fail to tackle the two BS's before they realize things are going badly, they warp off and you lose the mission. Waiting till after dt for another chance would not work either, it's simply failed and closed. ---------------------------------------------
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:32:00 - [56] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Kara Mitsui All that, just to avoid admitting you were wrong? Dude, the English language has rules, you can't just make them up to suit yourself. The position and need for a comma in that sentence is debatable, but the (need for the) period is not. It means end of sentence, and it is obvious that the docking manager is called Scotty. There's not really any room for confusion. On the other hand, if CCP made a mistake with their grammar, it could easily mean the opposite. Quote: Quote: Just man up and admit you've misread it the whole time you've been playing. That's less dumb than trying to pretend the sentence is ambiguous. In British English, you would usually get frowned upon for smacking a full stop in the middle of a sentence less than 20 words long, especially when the sentence makes perfect sense without it . This is false; there is nothing wrong with using short sentences. They can sound rather terse, but sometimes this is an effect that people want to achieve. Quote: ~~And~~ Considering (that) the sentence itself is completely nonsensical, i.e missing the 'your' (or 'the', although if grammatically correct it would refer to the ship in its possessive context, i.e 'your') from in between 'while' and 'ship'(,) and then, you have the missing word between 'entering' and ~~'Hanger'~~ ('hangar'.) I've cleaned up some of the spelling and grammar for you there. Quote: If it was grammatically correct it would also be either Your or The. ~~But~~ Since the hanger is technically in (the) possession of the station, The would be the correct choice. The hangar is part of the station (it does not own the station ) but is also associated with a single pilot. As the choice of hangar is clear from the context, a definite article is just as good as a possessive pronoun. Quote: Then, (there's) the illustrious Full Stop(,) smack bang in the middle of, what would be a perfectly correct sentence without it (as the only purpose it serves is a pause, which is ~~initially~~ the comma's purpose )(.) The missing verb needed to complete the above sentence has been provided for you. Quote: And because of this, the comma after Scotty makes no sense either, as it is not needed. Please avoid starting sentences with conjunctions. You can only get away with it when you write otherwise outstanding text. CCP's version: Quote: Please wait while ship is entering hangar. Scotty, the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. My rephrased version: 'Please wait while your ship is entering the hangar. Scotty, the docking manager, estimates that this will take another 27 seconds.' Now that we have a grammatically correct sentence, it only takes a few minor changes to get to the alternative interpretation of CCP's version: 'Please wait while your ship is entering the hangar, Scotty. The docking manager estimates that this will take another 27 seconds.' A clarification on this matter from CCP would be appreciated. Now write this in proper french and see how many people cares. Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:33:00 - [57] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn lots of stuff I CARE nowai i really dont =) if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:37:00 - [58] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Devine13 Edited by: Devine13 on 15/05/2009 20:56:56 I hate Scotty the Docking Manager more than anything. Why won't you let me change ships in less than 20 seconds!?!? This always amuses me. The Docking manager is calling YOU scotty. "Hold on Scotty. The Docking manager estimates blah blah blah" Hold on. This comma is overrated tbh. COME ON BLANE XERO, ARE YOU BLANE XERO ? The answer is no in the most cases. HA-HA-HA (and yes pastis 51 ftw, it's saturday guys) Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:38:00 - [59] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn lots of stuff I CARE nowai i really dont =) woot, I'm right, nobody cares Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:49:00 - [60] These forums, and it's members.

Serpents smile	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:55:00 - [61] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin These forums, and it's members. Then stop being part of the problem :P
Discrodia Gallente Guild Navy Guild Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.16 11:56:00 - [62] All the timers, like docking, undocking, smacktalk, ect, ect.... ______________________________________________ Discrodia > SILENCE! I KILL YOU! Northern Fall > They're just sleepers disc...
JitaBum Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.05.16 12:06:00 - [63] CCP constantly ****ing up.
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.16 12:31:00 - [64] Some annoyance called cat o'ninetails <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Katie Door the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.05.16 12:37:00 - [65] Originally by: Lt Shard Cat o'Ninetails OH WAIT QFT
Warped Pestilence	Posted - 2009.05.16 13:00:00 - [66] All the stupid politics involved with nullsec! [using flame-resistant alt]
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie	Posted - 2009.05.16 13:01:00 - [67] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 16/05/2009 13:01:27 Another one : 0.0 acces for military only, and the general "carebear < pvper" feeling in this game : - I'm a military willing to install in 0.0 by my own, I can - I'm a carebear willing to install in 0.0 by my own, I can't imho, it should be "I can't" for both and "I can only with the other guy" Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) < soon(tm) :(
Kyden Gallente Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.16 13:36:00 - [68] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Originally by: Kyden This has to be it I'm glad you've learned that LetMeGoogleThatForYou link, it will surely increase your social standing on the internet. I must however question the relevance of your posting. Quote: I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. I was quite specific there. Do you want me Read That For You dot com? My bad, didn't know you couldn't take a joke and laugh about it. "Do you want me Read That For You dot com?" <--learn to write before you try to act cool! [url=http://roadkill.igs-corp.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=41343] [/url]
Avoida	Posted - 2009.05.16 14:18:00 - [69] My answer was going to be "Goonswarm"
Resivan	Posted - 2009.05.16 14:19:00 - [70] In-station repair mechanics. Find a station that has the Repair service, hunt through the list of ships and unpacked modules to find the right one, select it and get that pointless damage review list, hit the Repair All button and then confirm that I really want to spend the money. It takes more effort to pay 500 isk to patch up an injured drone than it does shell out 100M and actually buying something.

Constantine Arcanum IMPERIAL SENATE Initiative Associates	Posted - 2009.05.16 14:59:00 - [71] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Kara Mitsui All that, just to avoid admitting you were wrong? Dude, the English language has rules, you can't just make them up to suit yourself. The position and need for a comma in that sentence is debatable, but the (need for the) period is not. It means end of sentence, and it is obvious that the docking manager is called Scotty. There's not really any room for confusion. On the other hand, if CCP made a mistake with their grammar, it could easily mean the opposite. Quote: Quote: Just man up and admit you've misread it the whole time you've been playing. That's less dumb than trying to pretend the sentence is ambiguous. In British English, you would usually get frowned upon for smacking a full stop in the middle of a sentence less than 20 words long, especially when the sentence makes perfect sense without it . This is false; there is nothing wrong with using short sentences. They can sound rather terse, but sometimes this is an effect that people want to achieve. Quote: ~~And~~ Considering (that) the sentence itself is completely nonsensical, i.e missing the 'your' (or 'the', although if grammatically correct it would refer to the ship in its possessive context, i.e 'your') from in between 'while' and 'ship'(,) and then, you have the missing word between 'entering' and ~~'Hanger'~~ ('hangar'.) I've cleaned up some of the spelling and grammar for you there. Quote: If it was grammatically correct it would also be either Your or The. ~~But~~ Since the hanger is technically in (the) possession of the station, The would be the correct choice. The hangar is part of the station (it does not own the station ) but is also associated with a single pilot. As the choice of hangar is clear from the context, a definite article is just as good as a possessive pronoun. Quote: Then, (there's) the illustrious Full Stop(,) smack bang in the middle of, what would be a perfectly correct sentence without it (as the only purpose it serves is a pause, which is ~~initially~~ the comma's purpose )(.) The missing verb needed to complete the above sentence has been provided for you. Quote: And because of this, the comma after Scotty makes no sense either, as it is not needed. Please avoid starting sentences with conjunctions. You can only get away with it when you write otherwise outstanding text. CCP's version: Quote: Please wait while ship is entering hangar. Scotty, the docking manager estimates 27 seconds left. My rephrased version: 'Please wait while your ship is entering the hangar. Scotty, the docking manager, estimates that this will take another 27 seconds.' Now that we have a grammatically correct sentence, it only takes a few minor changes to get to the alternative interpretation of CCP's version: 'Please wait while your ship is entering the hangar, Scotty. The docking manager estimates that this will take another 27 seconds.' A clarification on this matter from CCP would be appreciated. your an idot
Cozmik R5 Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2009.05.16 15:05:00 - [72] Single most annoying thing? Easy: Being unable to log in for an entire week because it's my week of parental duty and the computer at my ex's place is now incompatible with Apocrypha, and there's no way in HELL I am upgrading HER computer. I'm also the only one in New Eden to think 24h for the queue is not enough because of this. Dammit. ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Maria Kalista Amarr Emerald Forest Securities	Posted - 2009.05.16 15:08:00 - [73] Edited by: Maria Kalista on 16/05/2009 15:08:50 Most annoying? People, just fresh in the game, demanding it to be changed to their (read WoW) needs. Writing 'EVE has soooo much potential if CCP only ""just"", fill in here how to make empire safe or have consensual PvP or howabout locking mission gates just for those who took the mission?' Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
Stealthy Imperial Guardians Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.16 15:21:00 - [74] simple dealing with CCP when they **** up be it the Dev get caught cheating and try and push it under the rug or when they FUBAR the patch process by inept coding like the .ini delete pastch or this one where I cant get a full client to actually install. SO you get forced into the petition system and the responding GM obvisously doesnt bother to read your petition when you are complaining about a full install and he sends you a link to a patch file that fixes your WHOLE problem. Funny I have no software going from build 1-88517 you douchebag!
Lipsaround	Posted - 2009.05.16 15:32:00 - [75] Cheap ass so-called marketeers who play 0.01 isk games.
Adjasarcanter Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.05.16 15:33:00 - [76] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Hi, Cat here. I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. You can only pick one, and it must be a game mechanics annoyance rather than a bug etc. Mine is not being able to contract damaged items. x The Forums.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2009.05.16 17:35:00 - [77] Originally by: Adjasarcanter Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 16/05/2009 15:38:33 Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails Hi, Cat here. I was wondering what people think is the most annoying thing about EVE is. You can only pick one, and it must be a game mechanics annoyance rather than a bug etc. Mine is not being able to contract damaged items. x The Forum. You mean the one who started this thread? To the OP: you probably recognize this quote: Quote: Note: I will be updating this page before 1st May. Like I wrote before: keep them coming.
Fujiko MaXjolt Caldari Templar Republic The Council.	Posted - 2009.05.16 18:05:00 - [78] Originally by: Lazarann Whiners? That's a mechanic right? Seriously though, aside from the one you mentioned...Getting a mission offer, declining it, getting the same one again, taking a standings hit and declining it AGAIN, and getting offered it AGAIN. Missions need more variety/entertainment. I don't mine but that could use some excitement too while we're at it. I agree completely. I think CCP should copy a page from the book of for instance City of Heroes and make it so you're offered 2-3 different missions at a time, so you have something to choose from. Then make it so you get a standings hit regardless if you don't pick one of them maybe...
GBlair Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.05.16 18:55:00 - [79] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard The "that" which you can't do while warping, which you never find out what it is. Hardly the most annoying thing in the game but still bloody confusing. "You cannot do that while warping." EH? I wasn't trying to do anything. After I hit warp, I put my hands behind my head and that was 3.0 AU ago. If it takes my ship that long to respond to a command, then I really do worry about how safe it is. So that and when you try to dock at a station it warps you to the docking perimeter and nothing else happens. Bleep bloop, I have achevables.
JaseNZ Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.16 19:08:00 - [80] The screen going black while undocking, right when you are in the middle of, or trying to read a chat window. Yet when you dock, you can still chat away...

Milla Jovo	Posted - 2009.05.16 19:51:00 - [81] little ships that can bump my orca and hulks 57KM from the belt i was mining. The guy shows up and in under 2 minutes he has bumped our little 3 ship mining op out of the belt. Then when i ask him in local how he is doing it, he just says he is going to war dec us. Oh and a gm said that if i orbit the roid im mining he can't bump me.
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.05.16 20:24:00 - [82] Originally by: Serpents smile To the OP: you probably recognize this quote: Quote: Note: I will be updating this page before 1st May. Like I wrote before: keep them coming. I thought I added a flashy 'under construction' graphic. Hmph. visit my blog for my adventures
OffBeaT Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:16:00 - [83] the fact that they wont dump local in low sec/00 space! like we can have real pvp with local! DUMP LOCAL!
Snaps	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:27:00 - [84] Originally by: Cozmik R5 Single most annoying thing? Easy: Being unable to log in for an entire week because it's my week of parental duty and the computer at my ex's place is now incompatible with Apocrypha, and there's no way in HELL I am upgrading HER computer. I'm also the only one in New Eden to think 24h for the queue is not enough because of this. Dammit. she dumped your ass becouse of eve did she! you can tell us!
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2009.05.16 22:40:00 - [85] the semi-annual nonsense dev threads in an attempt to connect to the player base after a disappointing patch. well.. they used to be semi annual anyways -.- let's see if this one beats the record that was the boost patch. - putting the gist back into logistics
Cozmik R5 Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2009.05.16 22:52:00 - [86] Originally by: Snaps Originally by: Cozmik R5 Single most annoying thing? Easy: Being unable to log in for an entire week because it's my week of parental duty and the computer at my ex's place is now incompatible with Apocrypha, and there's no way in HELL I am upgrading HER computer. I'm also the only one in New Eden to think 24h for the queue is not enough because of this. Dammit. she dumped your ass because of eve did she! you can tell us! Hehehe, nope, I started EVE after :) I was the one who pulled the plug before I made the front page of the local newspapers... ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Skywalker Minmatar Darkness and Chaos	Posted - 2009.05.16 23:06:00 - [87] Assets spread all over.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.05.17 00:26:00 - [88] broken CCP patches - Contagious -
cpu939 Gallente OffBeat Creations The Elders Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.17 00:57:00 - [89] got to be missions, i would love to see it change so if you said no to a mission like killing caldari,amarr, minmatar, gallente and/or any other faction/pirate you would not get a mission like that for a minimum of 4.5 hours just so you don't loss standings 01101111 01100110 01100110 01100010 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100011 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110
Astigmatic	Posted - 2009.05.17 01:01:00 - [90] Singular characters with multiple alts displaying different personality aspects on the forums in an attempt to achieve some sort of sick, personal gratification not possible through normal social discourse because the posters lack confidence in real life. Hi Cat.

Kara Mitsui The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2009.05.17 01:42:00 - [91] Originally by: Queen Margaret you have 10 ships in the hangar, and you know the module you need to grab, is fitted to one of those ships, but the ships won't tell you what modules they have fit! So you think the ship named "blinky" is fit with a buffer tank, but no its, smartbombs and you can waste minutes this way. There's an app called Eve Asset Manager, or Heavy Duck, which tells you everything you own, whether it's in different stations, in cans, in space, or fitted on ships. If you have it already setup and keep the asset list up to date, you can avoid this hassle completely. But you have to keep it up to date. If you have to requery the game, it takes just as long. On the other hand, it's vital for finding stuff you never knew you had in weird places. http://wiki.heavyduck.com/EveAssetManager It's pure gold.
WillageGirl Celtic Anarchy	Posted - 2009.05.17 01:51:00 - [92] Local chat. Fighting for Our right to Cloak since 2004
Valorous Bob TARSHISH FOUNDATION	Posted - 2009.05.17 02:02:00 - [93] that Cat O Nine person. oh wai~ _______________________________________________ Originally by: Governor LePetomane You know who I can't stand? Explorers. Smug, invisible bastards.
Darkerz Reloaded Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.17 02:23:00 - [94] Originally by: Valorous Bob that Cat O Nine person. oh wai~
Squasar Kiith Paktu Veneratio Venator Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.17 03:22:00 - [95] Lag when there's 100 people in your system. Seriously, should it take 2 full cruise launcher cycles to shut the friggin things off after I deactivate them?
Kessiaan Minmatar MicroFunks	Posted - 2009.05.17 05:17:00 - [96] When the FC moves me around in the fleet without telling me and gives me the dreaded invisible session change timer, which I only find out about when I land at a gate and have to wait to jump through.
burek Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2009.05.17 05:43:00 - [97] Most annoying thing in eve is the people. Especially the ones that wait to gather numbers and blob you and then call you chicken, totally convinced lol
Kes Yogaila Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.05.17 07:11:00 - [98] Edited by: Kes Yogaila on 17/05/2009 07:12:44 Skill in training, finishes 59 days after you bite the dust.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.05.17 07:28:00 - [99] Originally by: Queen Margaret you have 10 ships in the hangar, and you know the module you need to grab, is fitted to one of those ships, but the ships won't tell you what modules they have fit! So you think the ship named "blinky" is fit with a buffer tank, but no its, smartbombs and you can waste minutes this way. This one really needs looking at by the UI designers.
Kel Nissa	Posted - 2009.05.17 09:12:00 - [100] No full scale faction war. Races have absolutly no meaning in eve.

Shea Klant	Posted - 2009.05.17 10:56:00 - [101] Bookmarks. I mean really, the human race can build jump gates, warp engines, cpus measured in Tflops, nano rapair systems, self recharging energy sources, cloning transfers, etc, etc, etc and they can't even come up with some basic navigation tools or coordinate systems?! Very lazy game design CCP.
Tobiaz Spacerats	Posted - 2009.05.17 11:35:00 - [102] Coming back to Eve after 3 years finding out that all lvl4 agents are STILL in secure space, clogging up whole systems and making a mockery of the whole 'risk vs. reward' philosophy.
Ignatius J'Reilly	Posted - 2009.05.17 11:42:00 - [103] Originally by: King Rothgar NPC AI, even the sleepers. It's beyond stupid, pve and pvp setups should be the same thing for the most part. NPC's should flee losing battles and should do human level damage and have human level tanks. You should have to warp scramble an NPC to actually kill them unless you manage to one volley them. And if massively outclassed they should just warp off before you get a lock (or try to). Making them properly choose targets is more difficult but surely CCP can do better than the current system of targeting whatever shows up first. There is no reason that npc's can't use the same ship mechanics players use and be fitted with common setups for pvp. It really isn't that complicated. On a related note, people playing an MMO as a single player game. Seriously, wtf. Missions in most MMO's require atleast a 4 man team to complete in any reasonable amount of time, eve's agent missions should do the same. Yes, a lvl1 mission should require 4-8 noobs in frigates to complete. It should be possible to fail missions as well. In duo of death as an example, if you fail to tackle the two BS's before they realize things are going badly, they warp off and you lose the mission. Waiting till after dt for another chance would not work either, it's simply failed and closed. This poster and everything he stands for, as well as all his similarly-minded prole brothers.
Lag Hon Minmatar Lag Hon Security	Posted - 2009.05.17 11:48:00 - [104] Secure Containers they default as Locking anything put in them and reset to that everytime theres a patch. Quote: There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power governments, and tyrants, and armies can not stand. G'Kar
Jalif Minmatar Black Sinisters	Posted - 2009.05.17 11:52:00 - [105] What is the single most annoying thing? You & you countless threads
Drykor Minmatar Reform-Revolt	Posted - 2009.05.17 13:44:00 - [106] Very poorly tested patches that screw up the game for weeks after deployment.
Ferdio Ricotez Gallente Killer Carebears United Interstellar Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.17 14:19:00 - [107] Edited by: Ferdio Ricotez on 17/05/2009 14:19:59 Not knowing my crew. Seriously, if battleship personnel numbers run into hundreds, how come I don't know a single one of them? I want to know who is on-board my ship, bloody hell! Other than that, macro miners. ----- Gallente flying Minmatar


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