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Korrakas
Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Maxpie The com whistled. ôCaptain to the bridge,ö UhuraÆs voice stated. Kirk climbed out of bed. ôGet your clothes on and get to your post,ö he told the pretty ensign who lay there undressed. Rushing, he put his own clothes on and made his way to the bridge. Settling into his chair, he demanded, ôreport.ö ôCaptain, there is a ship of unknown design on long-range sensors,ö Spock said. He added, ôall attempts to communicate have been returned only with a demand for 2950 interstellar kredits, whatever they may be.ö ôWait, communication is coming through now,ö said Uhura. ôOn screen.ö The balding, angular face of Maxpie materialized on the screen. ôWhat can I do for you,ö he asked. ôCaptain, the unknown ship is locking us,ö Mr. Sulu announced. ôNot unknown, this is my Typhoon. I suggest you leave now,ö said Maxpie. Alarmed Kirk shouted, ôGo to red alert.ö Immediately Checkov raised shields as warnings announced red alert through the ship. ôThis is Captain James T. Kirk of the Federation Starship Enterprise. We were investigating a wormhole for scientific study and have no intention of leaving this area of space until we are finished,ö he said sternly. Looking at Checkov he added, ôcharge phasers and load photon torpedos.ö ôIÆm warning you for the last time to leave. HereÆs what you could call a warning shot,ö Maxpie countered. His crew always had all weapons systems at the ready. With a thought four cruise missiles launched towards the Enterprise. Sulu calmly stated, ôCaptain, the unknown vessel has launched four missiles of some sort.ö ôEvasive maneuvers,ö Kirk responded. The Enterprise started to turn, but the missiles slammed into itÆs shields. ôShields holding at 93%,ö reported Sulu. ôOpen fire!,ö Kirk ordered. With that a full spread of photon torpedoes left the enterprise while phasers burned into the TyphoonÆs shields, dropping them to 90%. Then the photon torpedoes struck with a massive explosion. Maxpie felt it in his pod. Shields were ripped apart to 31%. ôVery well,ö Maxpie thought as he closed the com channel, ôweÆll play rough.ö Activating his micro-warp drive, Maxpie began an orbit around the Enterprise. As he closed, his autocannons opened fire. As the emp ammo burned into the shields of the Enterprise, Maxpie activated his warp scrambler and stasis webifier. ôCaptain, warp engines have gone offline,ö Scotty announced over the com system. ôGet those engines back online Mr. Scott. Sulu, get us out of here. Emergency power. Fire another volley at the enemy ship.ö Phasers and photon torpedoes again lashed out at the Typhoon, destroying the few shields that were still up. But Maxpie was not concerned. Shields were just a buffer for the heavily armored battleship. With armor hardeners and a high quality armor repair unit, it would take far more to destroy the Typhoon. ôCaptain, propulsion is greatly diminished. Some sort of micro energy streams from the enemy ship are slowing us down,ö Sulu announced. Though his voice was calm, he begun to worry. ôSpock, is there any way to counter it?ö asked Kirk. ôNone captain, but I will try to find a solution.ö
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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SerialThrilla
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:46:00 -
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My spaceship computer game is unrealistic? *shock* *horror*
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Leon Caedo
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Leon Caedo on 01/06/2009 17:53:11 No one is disputing my 'Eve makes physics cry' claim. This makes me sad panda  (1.) in real life: F = ma
but in eve F = mv ???(wtf)
Max velocity is determined by thrust divided by mass? This is wrong on so many levels. 
Ok, if you have a set amount of thrust that you can output for an infinite amount of time, you WILL come to a 'max velocity'. However, based on the values of thrust used in game, this 'max velocity' will be anywhere from 70-90% the speed of light. The fastest ships in eve can break 5000m/s. 5000 m/s is 0.0017% the speed of light.
As you can see, the 'max velocity' that ships have is completely unrealistic. That being said, having ships go close to the speed of light while out of warp would change Eve into a single player game.
(2.) Fuel. I'm just going to leave it at that.
(3.) in real life Stars don't twinkle if you are in space. The twinkle we see on earth is caused by pockets of less dense air in the atmosphere.
in eve Stars twinkle in outer space because it looks neat.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather In case you fail to know this... Star Trek isn't real either.  ~SB
Star Trek is based heavily on REAL science. They have many scientists who cross-check everything on the show to make sure it's all 100% realistic. Therefore it stands to reason that Star Trek can be taken as an authority on what a space-simulation game should be like.
Star Trek is fantasy, and any illusions they have to real science is just that, Illusion. They may very well loosely base their 'science' off reality in some areas, but the vast majority of their 'science' is pure fantasy. Phasers don't exist. Photon Torpedoes don't exist. Disrupters don't exist. Shields don't exist. Warp drives don't exist. Impulse engines don't exist. Matter/anti matter conversion engines don't exist. Transporters DO NOT EXIST. Yeoman Rand does not exist. Klingons do not exist (unless you forget to wipe). Romulans do not exist. Vulcans do not exist. Human/Vulcan cross breeds do not exist. Giant Space Stations you can walk around in and watch wormholes appear and disappear outside do not exist. Ferengi do not exist. Phaser Rifles do not exist. Hand phasers do not exist.
Get the point yet?
Your equating reality, fantasy and a sci-fi movie as if they were somehow interchangeable.
Please do climb into your shuttle and fly up to your ship and fly away. Or better yet, swallow the barrel of a loaded handgun and pull the trigger.
One of these things you can do, one of them you can't. Which do you think it is???
~SB
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Beverly Sparks
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Another example would be teleporters. They are all the rage in Star Trak and already we are seeing them in real life, yet they don't exist in EVE despite it supposedly being science based?
Yea, that still has me chuckling.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Leon Caedo Edited by: Leon Caedo on 01/06/2009 17:57:39 (3.) in real life Stars don't twinkle if you are in space. The twinkle we see on earth is caused by pockets of less dense air in the atmosphere.
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Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus EVE as it stands is completely unrealistic. In Star Trek
no need to read beyond here really 
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Delphi Grendalus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Sean
You're a playtime troll, at best. Go hang with the 4chan or /b/ crowd and i'm sure in a while you can become a truly annoying troll that everyone dislikes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Why would I want to hang out with those losers?
There is more to trolling and more ways to troll then to just make everyone hate you. If I wanted that I would still be posting Clear Skies fan-fiction.
Being annoying is easy, being entertaining takes talent and effort.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Originally by: Mr Sean
Being annoying is easy, being entertaining takes talent and effort.
Your Annoying. Maybe this is because you have no talent. 
~SB
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy!
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Delphi Grendalus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Delphi Grendalus on 01/06/2009 18:43:03
Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Quote:
Being annoying is easy, being entertaining takes talent and effort.
Your Annoying. Maybe this is because you have no talent. 
~SB
I'd hate to think the number one world of warcraft fan has been posting in this thread and not enjoying himself.
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus Edited by: Delphi Grendalus on 01/06/2009 18:43:03
Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Quote:
Being annoying is easy, being entertaining takes talent and effort.
Your Annoying. Maybe this is because you have no talent. 
~SB
I'd hate to think the number one world of warcraft fan has been posting in this thread and not enjoying himself.
That would work as an insult, except for the small fact that I played WoW for exactly 1 week, hated it so much I left and never went back. I guess I heard the name Stormwind and it stuck in my mind, as I came up with the name combo Stormwind Bloodfeather for here based on my character being a Shaman of the Vherikoir (sp?) people. As I am of mixed Native American Descent, The name also shouldn't be too surprising.
TBH I have frequently considered Biomassing this character, because i'm tired of all the WOW ***s saying i'm a WoW *** because of it when I totally detest WoW.
~SB
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy!
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Syringe
Oedipus Complex SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2009.06.01 21:18:00 -
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So when do I get my red matter? --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question. |

Reyold Bengali
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.01 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar
Originally by: Styxia Acheron [ Recoilless rifle work by allowing a large percentage of the propellant gas to escape in the opposite direction of the fired round. Gas, not mass, as mass would be an extraordinarily bad idea (your enemies are generally in front of you, your friends behind, and your friends generally object to you hurling high speed projectiles at them every time you fire at the enemy).
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the gas exiting the RR is fairly lethal in it's own right. take a look at a manual for one sometime and check out the amazingly large area behind the weapon scorched by the exhaust when the wpn is fired.
This is why standing behind the Carl G is a very bad idea. ------- Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |

Rhinanna
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 22:52:00 -
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Quote: (1.) in real life: F = ma
but in eve F = mv ???(wtf)
Possible EVE uses either virtual momentum or impulse drives which would explain their top speeds and almost non-existent fuel consumption. The numbers on show info would then be equivalent levels.
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(3.) in real life Stars don't twinkle if you are in space. The twinkle we see on earth is caused by pockets of less dense air in the atmosphere.
in eve Stars twinkle in outer space because it looks neat.
Totally true, also EVE has about a billion nebula stuffed into it's mini pocket of the galaxy :)
As for Star Trek, its about the most correct in terms of what is thought possible from physics and obeying known physical laws, it fails on occasions (invert the polarity of the neutron flow!!!! - eh, neutrons don't have a charge so no polarity) but its about the best out of any show :) Firefly cheats by never giving us any idea how the tech works other than the fact they never seem to have to reload their revolvers ;)
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Vonlutt
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.02 02:43:00 -
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Since some tard said that an 1800mm shell would only be 'a little smaller than a person'....
THIS:
Is an 800mm shell, more than double that. 
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.06.02 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vonlutt Since some tard said that an 1800mm shell would only be 'a little smaller than a person'....
THIS:
Is an 800mm shell, more than double that. 
you've got it wrong mate, this is a 1400MM Howitzer shell!

~SB
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |

Killer Gandry
Caldari Red Horizon Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.02 03:06:00 -
[167]
I wonder what salvage you get from the Enterprise.

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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.06.02 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Killer Gandry I wonder what salvage you get from the Enterprise.

I think in this case... just scrap metal.   
~SB
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |

Leon Caedo
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Posted - 2009.06.02 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rhinanna
Possible EVE uses either virtual momentum or impulse drives which would explain their top speeds and almost non-existent fuel consumption. The numbers on show info would then be equivalent levels.
I'm not sure what virtual momentum is, so I'll have to read up on that. (yay for wikipedia )
But I don't see how it is possible to have a maximum velocity if you have a set amount of thrust and unlimited fuel supply. (again, assuming well under speed of light, which we are if we use the speeds in eve)
F/m = a ; even if you include the fact that m is slowly decreasing with time, there is no way a could ever be 0 if F is a set amount. (even when you run out of fuel, your ship still has mass)
The acceleration must be 0 for the velocity to be at a maximum, or minimum. (yay calc 1)
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theshadowduke
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Posted - 2009.06.02 05:28:00 -
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This thread is dumb, but I saw something I need to correct, pardon me if it has already been said.
Warp speeds in star trek and eve are measured in completely different ways, however eve is much faster by several orders of magnitude. Let me explain.
In star trek warp speeds are measured in warp numbers, much like mach. Warp has a direct correlation to the speed of light, and while simpler to understand, is still much slower than eve. In star trek a ship traveling at warp 4.2 is traveling 4.2*c, or 4.2*the speed of light. This is very fast, but pales in comparison to eve as you will see.
In eve, warp speed is measured in AU/s, which means astral units per second. For those of you that don't know, an astral unit is the distance between Sol (our sun) and earth. It takes light eight minutes to travel one AU. I believe you are already beginning to see how fast eve warp truly is. This means that the slowest warping ship in eve, traveling a meager 0.5 AU/s, is actually going 240*c, or 240 times the speed of light. When you start talking about ships moving at five or six AU/s you start getting into speeds that boggle the mind.
Anyway, I just thought I would clear that up.
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Sandwich PvP
The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.02 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus EVE as it stands is completely unrealistic. In Star Trek Phasers and Photon Torpedoes are the most powerful weapons yet in EVE primative projectile weapons are by far the best weapon. This sillyness is an absolutely mockery of physics.
Another example would be teleporters. They are all the rage in Star Trak and already we are seeing them in real life, yet they don't exist in EVE despite it supposedly being science based? What's next, they remove petrol from the game and make all the star-ships use steam power? LOLOL
Come on CCP, lets bring back some REALISM to this Space-SIMULATION game!
Go back to school, you just failed your physics class.
Hint: Star trek is not real.....
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Tesal
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Posted - 2009.06.02 05:40:00 -
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Seriously?
let me try that all caps.
SERIOUSLY?
still doesn't convey the message. Hmmmm....
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font class=quote size=9px face="Verdana"><img src="/images/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Delphi Grendalus</i><hr height=1 noshade>In Star Trek<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Well... Last time I checked it was called EVE Online <b>NOT</b> Star Trek Online <img src=/images/icon_rolleyes.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt=](/images/icon_redface.gif)
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.02 06:17:00 -
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Caldari fire missiles, Amarr fire lasers, Gallente fire chunks of matter at near light speed, and Minmatar fire VW Beatles. Nothing unrealistic there. 
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.06.02 09:41:00 -
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I did not say that 1800 mm is smaller than a person.
Also I did not say anything about which direction Im measuring the size from. In diameter I would be right its about person size, length wise its really up to the manufactuer on how long they build the round.
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Diziet EmblassSma
Caldari Caldari Freelancers Association
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Posted - 2009.06.02 10:14:00 -
[176]
\O/
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Rhinanna
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.02 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox I did not say that 1800 mm is smaller than a person.
Also I did not say anything about which direction Im measuring the size from. In diameter I would be right its about person size, length wise its really up to the manufactuer on how long they build the round.
If you know any people who are 1.4meters diameter then you know some really fat people!!!! :)
Are you american? ;)
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.06.02 12:05:00 -
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I thought austrialia ranked in first with 26%, and per capita is some small island nation nobodys heard of.
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Count Mishkah
Pinnicle Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.02 14:27:00 -
[179]
Christ on a bike... This thread has provided me with much laughs....
even in the first few posts... the..."lolwut?" had me choking on my breakfast.
Gotta hand it to you all, You guys are what make Eve entertaining, on so many levels.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.02 14:30:00 -
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I teleported here.
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