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Nevenda'ar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 02:02:00 -
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On a side note, a few days ago I watched this new and awesome Star Trek movie. Well, at least it's supposed to be awesome, that is if you believe hordes of fans and its 90-95% positive review ratings and such.
Anyway, aside from the few moments, it was pretty much below average - definitely not the space movie of the year I expected. I got more enjoyment out of another movie that is rated 35% on Rotten Tomatoes. This is definitely the last time I look at other people's movie reviews...
Also, sucessfull troll by OP, 9/10
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Sir Substance
Minmatar
The Empire Nation
Dead Mans Hand
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Posted - 2009.06.01 05:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Another example would be teleporters. They are all the rage in Star Trak and already we are seeing them in real life
1) we arnt even sure that that was the same photon.
2) in case you didnt notice, i can move stuff to my hold from a can 2500m away instantly. whats that, jovian pixie dust?
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Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar
Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.06.01 05:57:00 -
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Um... What part of the word GAME do you fail to understand? You want REALISM? Ok, your now in an Interstellar spaceship... oh wait... they don't exist!
Ok lets try: You shove implants into your head to increase your intelligence... oh wait... they don't exist (more is the pity, you obviously need them).
hmm how about... Your stuck on a small planet, orbiting around a mediocre star in one arm of an average galaxy in a universe that doesn't give a rats ass if an asteroid plows into your planet and wipes your species out of existence, and the closest thing you have to space ships is chemically powered, semi controlled bombs, strapped to thin, unshielded 'capsules of air' that wouldn't protect a mouses fart if anything larger than grain of sand hit it... Ahh there you have it! REALISM.
Fake Edit: In case you fail to know this... Star Trek isn't real either. 
~SB
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
Delphi Grendalus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.01 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather
In case you fail to know this... Star Trek isn't real either.
~SB
Star Trek is based heavily on REAL science. They have many scientists who cross-check everything on the show to make sure it's all 100% realistic. Therefore it stands to reason that Star Trek can be taken as an authority on what a space-simulation game should be like.
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ViRUS Pottage
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:08:00 -
[125]
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
EVE as it stands is completely unrealistic. In Star Trek Phasers and Photon Torpedoes are the most powerful weapons yet in EVE primative projectile weapons are by far the best weapon. This sillyness is an absolutely mockery of physics.
This is EVE, not Star Trek
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Another example would be teleporters. They are all the rage in Star Trak and already we are seeing them in real life, yet they don't exist in EVE despite it supposedly being science based? What's next, they remove petrol from the game and make all the star-ships use steam power?  LOLOL
Again, this is EVE not **** Trek. And teleporters? Jump bridges, Titan Bridges.
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Come on CCP, lets bring back some REALISM to this Space-SIMULATION game!
EVE isn't a simulation game. Hence the fact you're not in your ships ****pit flying around with a joystick.
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Originally by: CCP Taera
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:12:00 -
[126]
Plysics is the win!
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Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:22:00 -
[127]
Maybe there should be some scam regarding CSM members and expenses but within the game rules? Just sayin'...
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nevenda'ar
On a side note, a few days ago I watched this new and awesome Star Trek movie. Well, at least it's supposed to be awesome, that is if you believe hordes of fans and its 90-95% positive review ratings and such.
I also agree it wasn't that good but I've never been a Star Trek fan (well I used to casually watch Next Generation when it was on tv). The plot seemed very tenuous - time travel, black holes etc etc.
Apparently Ridley Scott is making an adaption of The Forever War he's first sci-fi movie since Blade Runner, that should be one to watch out for, I think he is a much better director then JJ Abrams.
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Reiisha
Evolution
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:41:00 -
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Quote:
why do folks keep pulling this 300k paying subscribers from, when ever i have ever logged in (even with 2 accoutns) iveonly ever seen the server at 40k ish. i really dont beleive that 260 thousand people are just paying to subsidise the game without actually playing ?
From the STO forums, someone commenting on EVE. Funny thing is that several STO fanbois are actually drawing the exact same conclusion as the thread goes on - Link for the lazy. Brainfarts all over that thread.
From this evidence, i'd say EVE is much more realistic than STO.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:02:00 -
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I got it! Jovians have photon torpedos and phaser cannons and use Zero Point shielding system.
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Gebher'el
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
EVE as it stands is completely unrealistic. In Star Trek Phasers and Photon Torpedoes are the most powerful weapons yet in EVE primative projectile weapons are by far the best weapon. This sillyness is an absolutely mockery of physics.
Another example would be teleporters. They are all the rage in Star Trak and already we are seeing them in real life, yet they don't exist in EVE despite it supposedly being science based? What's next, they remove petrol from the game and make all the star-ships use steam power? LOLOL
Come on CCP, lets bring back some REALISM to this Space-SIMULATION game!
This has to be the single most insane post I have yet seen.
I could tear apart everything at the first of the post but lets just focus on the culmination of the insanity, EVE is NOT a Space Simulation, it is an MMORPG! At least get the game genre right.
Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, God will be a light unto me. |
Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gebher'el
This has to be the single most insane post successful troll I have yet seen.
Fixed it for you.
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Kenneth Bergmonster
Caldari
Rennfeuer
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:34:00 -
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Regarding realism, did you notice how there is no gravity whatsoever?
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:39:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Arec Bardwin
Originally by: Gebher'el
This has to be the single most insane post successful troll I have yet seen.
Fixed it for you.
Feeding the troll....
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I support log offs.
There's just something about denying free electrons to my computer that appeals to my need for control.
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XenoPagan
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:52:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Star Trek is based heavily on REAL science. They have many scientists who cross-check everything on the show to make sure it's all 100% realistic. Therefore it stands to reason that Star Trek can be taken as an authority on what a space-simulation game should be like.
guys? is this thing a new generation trekkie, spawned by the last movie?
if so, god help us all...
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Wang LeeMei
Ero Guro
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:23:00 -
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/me searches for another posting from OP apart from the opening one
i guess he got pwned by a projectile weapon rage quitted , hence the topic...
oh and isnt Star Trek just star trek ? and star wars is just star wars ?
so let eve be eve as it is w/ all its technologies...
u could even complain bout man in RL still not able to use sth like a warp drive or **** tho they able to in star trek hence every1 must be able to do so lol
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:26:00 -
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Eve is full of idiots, muppets, egos, talentless gob****es and the occasional decent person.
I'd say that's about as realistic as it gets.
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Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:28:00 -
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It's a game. It has to be logic, but not realistic.
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Delphi Grendalus
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: XenoPagan
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Star Trek is based heavily on REAL science. They have many scientists who cross-check everything on the show to make sure it's all 100% realistic. Therefore it stands to reason that Star Trek can be taken as an authority on what a space-simulation game should be like.
guys? is this thing a new generation trekkie, spawned by the last movie?
if so, god help us all...
I have not seen any star trek movies. I've only seen Voyager and read a few of the novels. That doesn't change the fact that I know they consult many real scientists before they write a single word down for each episode/novel.
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:34:00 -
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I haven't read beyond the first page, so apologies if someone has already made the same comments already.
You have to admire the balls of someone who can use the words "Star Trek" and "realism" in the same sentence. Think I'll point out just how realistic the realm of Narnia is, as I am regularly confronted with talking lions that hide amongst my suits. And that Mr Tumnus, what a bastard! He keeps wearing my trousers and stretching them with his freakish goat legs.
Some people do get a little over-protective of their favoured fantasy world, and the same is true of some of the EVE freaks. Learn to develop a sense of humour, and realise the whole of reality isn't going to come crashing down around your ears because someone prefers a different 'brand'.
Sci-Fi, Fantasy and Horror are all genres that deal with things that don't exist. Some things may resemble existing science enough for them to come true, and other things are just blatantly impossible. This is not the point. These genres allow us to examine things about the human condition, and allow us to confront topics that simply couldn't be done in any other fashion. Just ask yourself why the Caldari are the most popular race. Is this because more people in the world identify with a militaristic culture, or is it because people just prefer missiles to railguns?
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Styxia Acheron
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Posted - 2009.06.01 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rhinanna
Recoilless rifles work on this by firing a smaller amount of mass at a higher speed in the opposite direction.
Recoilless rifle work by allowing a large percentage of the propellant gas to escape in the opposite direction of the fired round. Gas, not mass, as mass would be an extraordinarily bad idea (your enemies are generally in front of you, your friends behind, and your friends generally object to you hurling high speed projectiles at them every time you fire at the enemy). This doesn't counter the recoil -- the name is a misnomer -- but instead reduces it just enough to make the weapons (tank busters, mostly) practical to use in anything short of an APC.
While such a system could possibly be used in a space-based application, it would cut down on the gun's efficiency more then a tad (as in way more), would likely only partly counter the gun firing (begging the question, why bother?), would likely limit the weapon travel (can't constantly eject hot gasses onto the hull), and would overall do little to reduce those disadvantages any mass-driving/firing weapon has over a strictly ZFT-based design.
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:04:00 -
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The com whistled. ôCaptain to the bridge,ö UhuraÆs voice stated. Kirk climbed out of bed.
ôGet your clothes on and get to your post,ö he told the pretty ensign who lay there undressed. Rushing, he put his own clothes on and made his way to the bridge. Settling into his chair, he demanded, ôreport.ö
ôCaptain, there is a ship of unknown design on long-range sensors,ö Spock said. He added, ôall attempts to communicate have been returned only with a demand for 2950 interstellar kredits, whatever they may be.ö
ôWait, communication is coming through now,ö said Uhura.
ôOn screen.ö
The balding, angular face of Maxpie materialized on the screen. ôWhat can I do for you,ö he asked.
ôCaptain, the unknown ship is locking us,ö Mr. Sulu announced.
ôNot unknown, this is my Typhoon. I suggest you leave now,ö said Maxpie.
Alarmed Kirk shouted, ôGo to red alert.ö Immediately Checkov raised shields as warnings announced red alert through the ship. ôThis is Captain James T. Kirk of the Federation Starship Enterprise. We were investigating a wormhole for scientific study and have no intention of leaving this area of space until we are finished,ö he said sternly. Looking at Checkov he added, ôcharge phasers and load photon torpedos.ö
ôIÆm warning you for the last time to leave. HereÆs what you could call a warning shot,ö Maxpie countered. His crew always had all weapons systems at the ready. With a thought four cruise missiles launched towards the Enterprise.
Sulu calmly stated, ôCaptain, the unknown vessel has launched four missiles of some sort.ö
ôEvasive maneuvers,ö Kirk responded.
The Enterprise started to turn, but the missiles slammed into itÆs shields.
ôShields holding at 93%,ö reported Sulu.
ôOpen fire!,ö Kirk ordered. With that a full spread of photon torpedoes left the enterprise while phasers burned into the TyphoonÆs shields, dropping them to 90%. Then the photon torpedoes struck with a massive explosion. Maxpie felt it in his pod. Shields were ripped apart to 31%.
ôVery well,ö Maxpie thought as he closed the com channel, ôweÆll play rough.ö Activating his micro-warp drive, Maxpie began an orbit around the Enterprise. As he closed, his autocannons opened fire. As the emp ammo burned into the shields of the Enterprise, Maxpie activated his warp scrambler and stasis webifier.
ôCaptain, warp engines have gone offline,ö Scotty announced over the com system.
ôGet those engines back online Mr. Scott. Sulu, get us out of here. Emergency power. Fire another volley at the enemy ship.ö
Phasers and photon torpedoes again lashed out at the Typhoon, destroying the few shields that were still up. But Maxpie was not concerned. Shields were just a buffer for the heavily armored battleship. With armor hardeners and a high quality armor repair unit, it would take far more to destroy the Typhoon.
ôCaptain, propulsion is greatly diminished. Some sort of micro energy streams from the enemy ship are slowing us down,ö Sulu announced. Though his voice was calm, he begun to worry.
ôSpock, is there any way to counter it?ö asked Kirk.
ôNone captain, but I will try to find a solution.ö
He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things. |
Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:04:00 -
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By now the EnterpriseÆs shields were down to 43% as the missiles and autocannons kept pounding away.
ôCaptain, there are five large objects approaching our ship,ö Spock stated.
ôAnalysis?ö
ôThey appear to be robotic weapons of some sort,ö Spock replied as the OgreÆs began to orbit the Enterprise, each blasting it with heavy thermal damage.
ôShields down captain.ö
With minimal armor, the Enterprise started taking heavy damage to its hull. ôNo armor? DonÆt they even have a damage control unit?ö Maxpie thought as a com channel was again requested.
ôWhat can I do for you, Captain Kirk?ö
Defeated, Kirk said, ôCease fire, we surrender.ö
Maxpie recalled his drones and deactivated his weapons, but kept orbiting the warp scrambled and webbed Enterprise. ôHow much is your ship worth to you captain,ö he asked.
ôIn our society, we have no need of currency. We have found a better way. Everyone if fully provided for and free to pursue their own betterment and to help society. Surely you can see the benefits the Federation has given our population. Perhaps there is a place for you with us,ö said Kirk, clearly looking to start a soliloquy.
ôCaptain, you have 10 seconds to transmit 100 million isk to me or you will find yourself in your pod, which I suggest you get to right now.ö replied Maxpie. ôIs this guy an idiot or what,ö he thought to himself, ômaybe some kind of role play freak.ö
ôIsk, pod? I donÆt even know what these things are you speak of,ö Kirk said. ôPlease give us more time, we can come to an understanding that will benefit both our people.ö
Launching cruise missiles, Maxpie began bookmarking the location. ôI wonder what kind of loot and salvage I can get from this ship,ö he thought. As the Enterprise exploded, Maxpie was dismayed to see that there was no loot or even a wreck to salvage. Apparently the shipÆs matter anti-matter engines went critical, destroying everything. Oddly, there was no pod either. Perhaps this Kirk had been telling the truth after all. ôOh, well, better to be safe than sorry,ö Maxpie thought as he jumped plotted his destination back home.
He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things. |
Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:09:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Styxia Acheron
Gas, not mass...
Think about it for a second.
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Shadow Devourer
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:16:00 -
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I was going to say that.
Instead I'll say: gas has mass. DUH.
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Rhinanna
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:36:00 -
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Also the gas is normally fired in a ^ direction backwards from most recoilless rifles making it very dangerous to stand to either side and behind of someone firing a recoilless rifle. The gas also has a higher velocity than the rifle round, almost completely reducing the recoil to zero.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:02:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Maxpie
the funneh
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:22:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
I have not seen any star trek movies. I've only seen Voyager and read a few of the novels. That doesn't change the fact that I know they consult many real scientists before they write a single word down for each episode/novel.
delphi please take a moment and google star trek science mistakes or something like that. there are a number of websites that go through trek's many science goofups. worse they are not self consistent about what rules they heave out the airlock.
they do have a tech bible for writers but if it comes down to the story going the way the writer wants then the bible goes by the wayside.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Styxia Acheron
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Recoilless rifle work by allowing a large percentage of the propellant gas to escape in the opposite direction of the fired round. Gas, not mass, as mass would be an extraordinarily bad idea (your enemies are generally in front of you, your friends behind, and your friends generally object to you hurling high speed projectiles at them every time you fire at the enemy).
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the gas exiting the RR is fairly lethal in it's own right. take a look at a manual for one sometime and check out the amazingly large area behind the weapon scorched by the exhaust when the wpn is fired.
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Mr Sean
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
The problem is your definition of a "horrible troll".
http://www.jfo.org.uk/info/new/troll.htm
You're a playtime troll, at best.
Go hang with the 4chan or /b/ crowd and i'm sure in a while you can become a truly annoying troll that everyone dislikes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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