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Waywatcher
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:05:00 -
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Although many peeps would agree that pirating is alot of fun, it is growing increasingly difficult to make decent isk from it. I know u can hold pods/ships ransom but it is quite rare that the perfect situation arises especially with a growing amount of peeps logging to save themselves. My only idea is that when a ship blows up it could leave some wreckage that could be pulled back to a station (maybe by an industrial with a new skill or piece of equipment) and then the wreckage could be refined in the station leaving the happy go lucky pirate with some minerals to build ammo with! PLEASE CCP HELP US A BIT!!!! http://server6.uploadit.org/files/BlackVenom-Waywatchers.jpg |

Waywatcher
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:05:00 -
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Although many peeps would agree that pirating is alot of fun, it is growing increasingly difficult to make decent isk from it. I know u can hold pods/ships ransom but it is quite rare that the perfect situation arises especially with a growing amount of peeps logging to save themselves. My only idea is that when a ship blows up it could leave some wreckage that could be pulled back to a station (maybe by an industrial with a new skill or piece of equipment) and then the wreckage could be refined in the station leaving the happy go lucky pirate with some minerals to build ammo with! PLEASE CCP HELP US A BIT!!!! http://server6.uploadit.org/files/BlackVenom-Waywatchers.jpg |

Stetu
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:13:00 -
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Yeah this post is 100% correct pirates have no effective way to create money. I mean I only pirate because it's fun not because it produces money. If I want money I have to rat hunt or spawn. Every once in a while you can get a ransom on someone or you can loot one of those large accomidation vestment reconstructors like we did last night. Still thought, it's hard to make some money so I would like to ask CCP to make some way for pirating to be more profitable. ----------------------
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Stetu
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:13:00 -
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Yeah this post is 100% correct pirates have no effective way to create money. I mean I only pirate because it's fun not because it produces money. If I want money I have to rat hunt or spawn. Every once in a while you can get a ransom on someone or you can loot one of those large accomidation vestment reconstructors like we did last night. Still thought, it's hard to make some money so I would like to ask CCP to make some way for pirating to be more profitable. ----------------------
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:15:00 -
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Thus my idea in this thread:
Implant Extraction: don't read if you're an antivivisectionist
Allow us the chance to get implants, even if they are partially damaged (i.e. only 30-80% effective).
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:15:00 -
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Thus my idea in this thread:
Implant Extraction: don't read if you're an antivivisectionist
Allow us the chance to get implants, even if they are partially damaged (i.e. only 30-80% effective).
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:22:00 -
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S'Daria, that is a stupid idea...seriously...like REALLY stupid. Implants will be 1m each at best after a week of that, and you won't have any money again. Best way to fix pirating is nerf insurance, and nerf it hard - especially on battleships. That would fix alot of other probs too.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:22:00 -
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S'Daria, that is a stupid idea...seriously...like REALLY stupid. Implants will be 1m each at best after a week of that, and you won't have any money again. Best way to fix pirating is nerf insurance, and nerf it hard - especially on battleships. That would fix alot of other probs too.
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Waywatcher
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:28:00 -
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I dont think the extracting implants idea is a bad one but your right it would bring the value down, but it could work if u have a small chance of saving implants and it taking a good skill to do it. I just feel there should be some ways to make isk :) http://server6.uploadit.org/files/BlackVenom-Waywatchers.jpg |

Waywatcher
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:28:00 -
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I dont think the extracting implants idea is a bad one but your right it would bring the value down, but it could work if u have a small chance of saving implants and it taking a good skill to do it. I just feel there should be some ways to make isk :) http://server6.uploadit.org/files/BlackVenom-Waywatchers.jpg |
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Devineflid
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:41:00 -
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i agree with waywatcher, surely there should be something of a ship left behind? maybe not if you torp a frig to death, so they could have varying levels of scrapmetal (perhaps needed a skill with a bit of a similar name to refine?) depending on how much dmg was done, therefore if it was a 9 vs1 bs gank situation, the rewards would be alot less.
the implant idea is silly, unless you could get a high slot dooda to keep the corpse from being frozen or something? ==============================================
Have you ever wondered who was responsible for the "do not attempt to stop chain with hand or genitals" type notes on things? well it was me, or at le |

Devineflid
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:41:00 -
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i agree with waywatcher, surely there should be something of a ship left behind? maybe not if you torp a frig to death, so they could have varying levels of scrapmetal (perhaps needed a skill with a bit of a similar name to refine?) depending on how much dmg was done, therefore if it was a 9 vs1 bs gank situation, the rewards would be alot less.
the implant idea is silly, unless you could get a high slot dooda to keep the corpse from being frozen or something? ==============================================
Have you ever wondered who was responsible for the "do not attempt to stop chain with hand or genitals" type notes on things? well it was me, or at le |

RiVoke
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:58:00 -
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Would be intresting if you could refine wreckage and get a small percentage of the minerals it cost to build the ship, it could give the so called pirates a small cash injection what they need
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RiVoke
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Posted - 2004.09.11 17:58:00 -
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Would be intresting if you could refine wreckage and get a small percentage of the minerals it cost to build the ship, it could give the so called pirates a small cash injection what they need
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Damajin
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Posted - 2004.09.11 18:05:00 -
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oh please.
u r a pirate, u kill ppl for fun. that`s it. . yeah..
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Damajin
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Posted - 2004.09.11 18:05:00 -
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oh please.
u r a pirate, u kill ppl for fun. that`s it. . yeah..
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Darwin
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Posted - 2004.09.11 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Damajin oh please.
u r a pirate, u kill ppl for fun. that`s it.
A Pirate is a Role that we play in the game. Just as you play the Miner or whatever you do. And I 2nd the Ship scrap metal Idea. CCP need to come up with somthing
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Darwin
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Posted - 2004.09.11 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Damajin oh please.
u r a pirate, u kill ppl for fun. that`s it.
A Pirate is a Role that we play in the game. Just as you play the Miner or whatever you do. And I 2nd the Ship scrap metal Idea. CCP need to come up with somthing
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Magnet41
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Posted - 2004.09.11 18:43:00 -
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if u got implants from corpses u would get the agent runners moaning  _
MadGaz > I just pwned an old lady
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Magnet41
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Posted - 2004.09.11 18:43:00 -
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if u got implants from corpses u would get the agent runners moaning  _
MadGaz > I just pwned an old lady
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:03:00 -
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TDG is pirating 1 year now. All cash has been stolen - no ebaying, no macromining, no ISK-dubbing like other "pirate-corps". It¦s extremly hard to get the sheeps ISK - nearly impossible - but it¦s also extremly funny and a challange if you CAN grab someone elses ISK and you know you are a good pirate.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:03:00 -
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TDG is pirating 1 year now. All cash has been stolen - no ebaying, no macromining, no ISK-dubbing like other "pirate-corps". It¦s extremly hard to get the sheeps ISK - nearly impossible - but it¦s also extremly funny and a challange if you CAN grab someone elses ISK and you know you are a good pirate.
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SkrittaK
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:04:00 -
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Yes but mag whatever you do you will detract from one persons play-style to add to another. I totally agree with Way (**** me did i just say that? :P) in that pirates can't earn enough out of their profession and i would also argue that they are over penalised already in regards to security status - which you cannot earn back very quickly unless you have access to some 0.0 rat hunting. As a result players can quickly become ostracised and "locked" into a section of space. I think there is definatly enough protection for players from griefers in 0.5+ and can't understand why player pirates are being punished in this regard. Anyway i digress...
...pirating is very expensive, most people wouldn't pay to save an insured ship soley out of principle, the only people who would be prepared to pay ransoms are elite frigate pirates, but trapping one of those is like finding a hooker at a methodist church. Recovering implants would eventually flood the market, unless only the most basic +1 implants can be recovered and im much in favour of the scrap metal idea, but would be very hard to implement considering what currently happens when a ship goes pop. Its a nice idea, but unfortunatly i doubt it would work - however, i do feel the dev's need to take a long hard look and try and make terrorising spacelanes on its own at the very least a break even business.
Semper Fidelis
Legion boys, we are here, shag your women and drink your beer! :) |

SkrittaK
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:04:00 -
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Yes but mag whatever you do you will detract from one persons play-style to add to another. I totally agree with Way (**** me did i just say that? :P) in that pirates can't earn enough out of their profession and i would also argue that they are over penalised already in regards to security status - which you cannot earn back very quickly unless you have access to some 0.0 rat hunting. As a result players can quickly become ostracised and "locked" into a section of space. I think there is definatly enough protection for players from griefers in 0.5+ and can't understand why player pirates are being punished in this regard. Anyway i digress...
...pirating is very expensive, most people wouldn't pay to save an insured ship soley out of principle, the only people who would be prepared to pay ransoms are elite frigate pirates, but trapping one of those is like finding a hooker at a methodist church. Recovering implants would eventually flood the market, unless only the most basic +1 implants can be recovered and im much in favour of the scrap metal idea, but would be very hard to implement considering what currently happens when a ship goes pop. Its a nice idea, but unfortunatly i doubt it would work - however, i do feel the dev's need to take a long hard look and try and make terrorising spacelanes on its own at the very least a break even business.
Semper Fidelis
Legion boys, we are here, shag your women and drink your beer! :) |

AlphA13
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:07:00 -
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would be nice to find some of ur invested cm¦s in the loot can of the ship... yes I know they explode but....or some tII components if destroy a ceptor for example.. In two days tomorrow will be yesterday |

AlphA13
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:07:00 -
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would be nice to find some of ur invested cm¦s in the loot can of the ship... yes I know they explode but....or some tII components if destroy a ceptor for example.. In two days tomorrow will be yesterday |

Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:37:00 -
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stop whinning ... about not earning money.. teddybears is earning lots of money ...
U cant just sit at a gate all day and wait for that indy with 2 billion worth of megacyte...
get out and pirate ;) the real way
Centuria > whoot? Centuria > you stalking me? :) -- Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL -- http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:37:00 -
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stop whinning ... about not earning money.. teddybears is earning lots of money ...
U cant just sit at a gate all day and wait for that indy with 2 billion worth of megacyte...
get out and pirate ;) the real way
Centuria > whoot? Centuria > you stalking me? :) -- Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL -- http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum stop whinning ... about not earning money.. teddybears is earning lots of money ...
U cant just sit at a gate all day and wait for that indy with 2 billion worth of megacyte...
get out and pirate ;) the real way
mhh i dont make anymoney, well ok, i get the vigil insurance from corp all the time, but thats not real money  Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum stop whinning ... about not earning money.. teddybears is earning lots of money ...
U cant just sit at a gate all day and wait for that indy with 2 billion worth of megacyte...
get out and pirate ;) the real way
mhh i dont make anymoney, well ok, i get the vigil insurance from corp all the time, but thats not real money  Wanna fly with me?
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