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PLUTOOTIAETf	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:35:00 - [1] Please make 0.0 look like this. Linkage Pretty please!
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:37:00 - [2] Would be nuts. I'd love it.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:38:00 - [3] Yes, because we need EVEN MORE SPACE almost nobody will visit, let alone want to live in ! I mean, god forbid we make most of existing 0.0 not suck anymore so people would want to live there... EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
PLUTOOTIAETf	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Akita T Yes, because we need EVEN MORE SPACE almost nobody will visit, let alone want to live in ! I mean, god forbid we make most of existing 0.0 not suck anymore so people would want to live there... Have you ever been in 0.0? I bet youve never really lived in 0.0 or been in a war. Being in your current corp for so long and trolling on the forums has made toy narrowminded
Blnukem 192 Amarr Clan Gold Viper	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:40:00 - [5] Edited by: Blnukem 192 on 05/06/2009 00:40:18 Space is supposed to be vast and empty. Adding more 0.0 would just make the game a little more realistic. I support this.
PLUTOOTIAETf	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Blnukem 192 Edited by: Blnukem 192 on 05/06/2009 00:40:18 Space is supposed to be vast and empty. Adding more 0.0 would just make the game a little more realistic. I support this. Exactly. And with Jump bridges it itsnt like Wars are going to be affected. We will still have plenty of 500v500 slugfets
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:41:00 - [7] Originally by: PLUTOOTIAETf Have you ever been in 0.0? Have YOU ? How many systems have barely a couple of pilots in them, or NO pilots whatsoever ? Yeah, thought so. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
PLUTOOTIAETf	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:42:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: PLUTOOTIAETf Have you ever been in 0.0? Have YOU ? How many systems have barely a couple of pilots in them, or NO pilots whatsoever ? Yeah, thought so. You cant have 100 people NPC in a 0.0 system can you. everyone spreads out. 0.0 Isnt empire. Space is supposed to be deep, vast and endless. WHy are you so against new regions? I dont see any downside
JonnyKay Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:43:00 - [9] plus, think about all the pos spamming that will be going on... they better make 0.0 warfare more fun before they add new regions in
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:48:00 - [10] Originally by: PLUTOOTIAETf You cant have 100 people NPC in a 0.0 system can you. everyone spreads out. 0.0 Isnt empire. Space is supposed to be deep, vast and endless. WHy are you so against new regions? I dont see any downside I'm not against new regions, I'm against adding new regions without focusing on improving existing ones. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
JonnyKay Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:49:00 - [11] Edited by: JonnyKay on 05/06/2009 00:51:44 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: PLUTOOTIAETf You cant have 100 people NPC in a 0.0 system can you. everyone spreads out. 0.0 Isnt empire. Space is supposed to be deep, vast and endless. WHy are you so against new regions? I dont see any downside I'm not against new regions, I'm against adding new regions without focusing on improving existing ones. Hope they improve sov warfare at least before they do this
KeynesDSG	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:50:00 - [12] Originally by: Akita T I'm not against new regions, I'm against adding new regions So your not against new regions but you are against new regions? Right.
PLUTOOTIAETf	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: PLUTOOTIAETf You cant have 100 people NPC in a 0.0 system can you. everyone spreads out. 0.0 Isnt empire. Space is supposed to be deep, vast and endless. WHy are you so against new regions? I dont see any downside I'm not against new regions, I'm against adding new regions without focusing on improving existing ones. Yea there could be some improvements to 0.0 warefare but POS warefare ISNT Broken.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:52:00 - [14] Originally by: KeynesDSG So you [...] are [...]Right. Why, thank you. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:53:00 - [15] Could do with more room around venal...
Dario Wall Caldari Corvus Industries	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:54:00 - [16] It'd be nice if they added more 0.0, low sec, and high sec all at once. More 0.0 gives the smaller alliances a place to claim without having to 'rent out' the space from their larger neighbors. More low sec would open it up and remove the chokepoints that scare more people away from it, tempting them to give it a try since pirates would be spread out more. More high sec would spread the mission runners and miners out more, easing congestion on a lot of the hub systems as well as opening up new trade routes to more markets. Just my two cents anyways.
JonnyKay Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Dario Wall It'd be nice if they added more 0.0, low sec, and high sec all at once. More 0.0 gives the smaller alliances a place to claim without having to 'rent out' the space from their larger neighbors. More low sec would open it up and remove the chokepoints that scare more people away from it, tempting them to give it a try since pirates would be spread out more. More high sec would spread the mission runners and miners out more, easing congestion on a lot of the hub systems as well as opening up new trade routes to more markets. Just my two cents anyways. what's to stop the major powerblocks just taking 90% of the new regions for themselves within like a month of release?
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:57:00 - [18] as long as they dont add new areas to empire i am happy with empire crowding up more each month people will naturally progress to areas with more recourses and less people when you see a belt and it is gone of all the minerals in most empire system this will be the braking point that people will move to low sec or run missions so mission need to be balanced before this happens . as 0.0 has way more resources than low sec the tranformation to low sec to 0.0 will be alot quicker as the a,b,c roids live there . with the added of more 0.0 space the larger alliances will move outwards maybe even moving there entire sov over to the new area since it is further away for attackers to reach and base out of low sec. The expansion of sov for larger alliances will also mean more space and recoursed for that alliance. if the larger alliance moved sov completly then this in turn opens up for smaller alliances to be come the entry point and be pets to the larger ones or taking abadoned space all together. the added amount of space would defiently be a very good shake up. and god know what the hell your talking about akita fixing the space we have now, lag has generally imporved in 0.,0 with larger fights having much less lag that they used to. the only thing they need to fix is mission and sov fix those and i will see eve as almost perfect
awdawdwadaw	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:57:00 - [19] Edited by: awdawdwadaw on 05/06/2009 00:59:15 Originally by: JonnyKay Originally by: Dario Wall It'd be nice if they added more 0.0, low sec, and high sec all at once. More 0.0 gives the smaller alliances a place to claim without having to 'rent out' the space from their larger neighbors. More low sec would open it up and remove the chokepoints that scare more people away from it, tempting them to give it a try since pirates would be spread out more. More high sec would spread the mission runners and miners out more, easing congestion on a lot of the hub systems as well as opening up new trade routes to more markets. Just my two cents anyways. what's to stop the major powerblocks just taking 90% of the new regions for themselves within like a month of release? Logistics would be an even bigger nightmare. This depends on the amount of regions they add tho. They would be over doubling -/- in that pic. If alliances want to burnout hauling fuels out to that depth of space goodluck tothem
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:01:00 - [20] Originally by: JonnyKay Originally by: Dario Wall It'd be nice if they added more 0.0, low sec, and high sec all at once. More 0.0 gives the smaller alliances a place to claim without having to 'rent out' the space from their larger neighbors. More low sec would open it up and remove the chokepoints that scare more people away from it, tempting them to give it a try since pirates would be spread out more. More high sec would spread the mission runners and miners out more, easing congestion on a lot of the hub systems as well as opening up new trade routes to more markets. Just my two cents anyways. what's to stop the major powerblocks just taking 90% of the new regions for themselves within like a month of release? thaty is always possible but jesus that is alot of new space, that would intale alot of logistics and all that new space would be spreading yoruselves thin and your current home land as your forces will be in the new area, sov mechanic need to be fixed before this happens .
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:03:00 - [21] Originally by: awdawdwadaw Edited by: awdawdwadaw on 05/06/2009 00:59:15 Originally by: JonnyKay Originally by: Dario Wall It'd be nice if they added more 0.0, low sec, and high sec all at once. More 0.0 gives the smaller alliances a place to claim without having to 'rent out' the space from their larger neighbors. More low sec would open it up and remove the chokepoints that scare more people away from it, tempting them to give it a try since pirates would be spread out more. More high sec would spread the mission runners and miners out more, easing congestion on a lot of the hub systems as well as opening up new trade routes to more markets. Just my two cents anyways. what's to stop the major powerblocks just taking 90% of the new regions for themselves within like a month of release? Logistics would be an even bigger nightmare. This depends on the amount of regions they add tho. They would be over doubling -/- in that pic. If alliances want to burnout hauling fuels out to that depth of space goodluck tothem Logistics can be handled with mid points. The real problem would be with defending such a large area.
awdawdwadaw	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: JonnyKay Originally by: Dario Wall It'd be nice if they added more 0.0, low sec, and high sec all at once. More 0.0 gives the smaller alliances a place to claim without having to 'rent out' the space from their larger neighbors. More low sec would open it up and remove the chokepoints that scare more people away from it, tempting them to give it a try since pirates would be spread out more. More high sec would spread the mission runners and miners out more, easing congestion on a lot of the hub systems as well as opening up new trade routes to more markets. Just my two cents anyways. what's to stop the major powerblocks just taking 90% of the new regions for themselves within like a month of release? thaty is always possible but jesus that is alot of new space, that would intale alot of logistics and all that new space would be spreading yoruselves thin and your current home land as your forces will be in the new area, sov mechanic need to be fixed before this happens . Exactly. Looking at that pic Its ALOT of jumps if you lived in the furthest 0.0 space from empire. It would make alliances more organised and prlly smaller in sov size.
Andres Talas	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:04:00 - [23] Edited by: Andres Talas on 05/06/2009 01:06:18 More 0.0 will just either repeat the Drone Regions experience (one of the big established capfleet-heavy groups will move into it and install renters) or repeat the Pandemic Legion conquest of the high ends in Syndicate etc. There's spare room in Curse and Syndicate ... just go there, figure who you want to fight and figure who you want to make blue. Alternatively, theres around 2500 new Wormhole systems, many of whom frequently open short-term logistics pipes to Empire. PS awdawdwadaw, they are called 'jump bridges'
Trent Nichols Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:12:00 - [24] If the map was really implemented like this, I don't think the major power blocks would take them so fast. There are vast expanses of nothing in between star clusters which would make cyno travel more difficult. When 0.0 alliances can no longer afford to wage cap warfare on two sides of the galaxy at once, we might see more localized wars break out and thus, fewer blobfests. If this isn't enough, push the clusters even further out and have bits of empire space jutting into 0.0 here and there so these rear systems can be reached without having to go through any of the established alliances. At any rate, this needs to be done last year.
WhiteGhostBear Furs of New Eden	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:22:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T Yes, because we need EVEN MORE SPACE almost nobody will visit, let alone want to live in ! I mean, god forbid we make most of existing 0.0 not suck anymore so people would want to live there... I'm not sure which null-sec areas you have been in, but the areas I have been through have not been vacant. There may be the occasional empty system or two, but it never stays that way for long. In my experience it has been fairly populated.
LeeIaa	Posted - 2009.06.05 02:21:00 - [26] Yeah, more space would be cool. But adding new space dilutes the value of all space. As the way the systems are built now, if you add more systems you devalue everything else in the game. More resources to be tapped (this is why more high sec would be BAD) You all like trit at 4 isk p/u. Add more high sec roids, devalue of trit. More space would be cool, but they would have to account for any new resource taps that they would be adding to the game. It isn't like, hey lets just slap some more space out there (drone regions) and not realize that we are killing mid value mineral markets. (yes I know there are more factors in the last statement.) Moons as well. You add more regions, you add more moons. What happens when you add more moons of current moons in game. You devalue all the rest of the moons in the game. Alot would have to change in the game for them to be able to say, HEY LETS ADD SOME NEW REGIONS!!!
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2009.06.05 02:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Armoured C The entire game needs to be re-written before this happens . Fixed.
Andres Talas	Posted - 2009.06.05 02:43:00 - [28] Edited by: Andres Talas on 05/06/2009 02:43:53 Originally by: LeeIaa Yeah, more space would be cool. But adding new space dilutes the value of all space. As the way the systems are built now, if you add more systems you devalue everything else in the game. More resources to be tapped (this is why more high sec would be BAD) You all like trit at 4 isk p/u. Add more high sec roids, devalue of trit. More space would be cool, but they would have to account for any new resource taps that they would be adding to the game. It isn't like, hey lets just slap some more space out there (drone regions) and not realize that we are killing mid value mineral markets. (yes I know there are more factors in the last statement.) Moons as well. You add more regions, you add more moons. What happens when you add more moons of current moons in game. You devalue all the rest of the moons in the game. Alot would have to change in the game for them to be able to say, HEY LETS ADD SOME NEW REGIONS!!! In order ... Hisec systems dont add isk. Hisec agents add isk. There is already unlimited quantities of trit hiding in constantly respawned L1 mission spaces, let alone Wormhole space. Moons dont add value unless you put Moon Minerals into them. And CCP deliberately didnt do that with wormholes because this would ummmm unbalance the clearly well-functioning Dyspro market. Or something. Drone regions nerfing midrange minerals are just the whole reprocessed loot = mining with blasters"" writ large. I personally suspect it was more people qualifying for L4s that did that, not the Drone Regions.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.06.05 02:54:00 - [29] That map is just the Wormholes map entity had overlayed onto the current eve, if i recall correctly. Sadly Entity has changed the URL pic to a "BOOST NAGLFAR!" pic HEre is where it was
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2009.06.05 02:56:00 - [30] Space looks so small these days, cause: 1) you only have a hand full of choke-points in each solar system like gates, stations, belts, planets.. 2) local immediately shows you how many people are in system and thus, negate the effect of the size of a solar system compared with reality.. what would 20 people on pluto know from 20 people on venus if there weren't local? 3) WTZ made space REALLY small.. what's a 20 jump trip nowadays - 25mins? Don't know what to make of it all, but I don't like the addition of more space either, we already got W-space, that's 2,500 more sol systems and it didn't solve the problem.. I HATE it, when I enter an "unknown" space and on scanner there are several POS, Secure Cans and other ships. That's not unknown.. that's populated. MORE and DIFFERENT Content in the existing systems with another method of gaining intel who is there and where would surely be better than adding more of the same.

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