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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
186
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:24:00 -
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DirtyDozen wrote:[quote=Andre Vauban] This^^
It's a challenge, but that's why it's fun. We've only been in Caldari FW for a little over a week. Just know a lot of the time you engage, you'll be outnumbered and fighting links. I'm not complaining. They are always willing to fight. I'm looking forward to more GFs down the road.
Personally, I'm not in it for the isk. All my guys have other sources of income. We wanted to come to fight with the underdogs.
I just wanted to say.. bite me..
The other day we were forming up a corp BC gang and had 1 guy whom wanted to fly his Myrm & rest in our Nanno Drakes and I was trying to explain why 1 Myrm isn't gonna work so well with the rest of corp in long range Drakes.. Then you guys land on gate with like 5 Myrms.. |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
3
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:27:00 -
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Dare Knight wrote:I'm confused about the part where you're mad. Last time I checked, this was a game... I don't blame people for shying away from the Caldari after reading this kind of thread. I wouldn't want to fly with someone so bitter, either. I enjoy flying with Superchair and some of the other longtimers. It just sounds like you want nothing more THAN to complain, and that doesn't help your standing or credibility at all.
And credibility goes a long way.
That's the beauty of the character assassination what has been going from gallentes side for the past years now. If I oppose them, I am raging sociopath who ought to be locked away, if I don't, I am a weak appeaser who should go back to mining asteroids.
Damn if you do, damn if you don't eh?
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Dare Knight
The 0ffice of Secret Intelligence
12
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:34:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Dare Knight wrote:I'm confused about the part where you're mad. Last time I checked, this was a game... I don't blame people for shying away from the Caldari after reading this kind of thread. I wouldn't want to fly with someone so bitter, either. I enjoy flying with Superchair and some of the other longtimers. It just sounds like you want nothing more THAN to complain, and that doesn't help your standing or credibility at all.
And credibility goes a long way. That's the beauty of the character assassination what has been going from gallentes side for the past years now. If I oppose them, I am raging sociopath who ought to be locked away, if I don't, I am a weak appeaser who should go back to mining asteroids. Damn if you do, damn if you don't eh?
Mm, yeah, true true. +1 to you, and my apologies. All in good stride. It's very simple, really. If you see Tengus on scan, they are ratting. If you see a shitload of Tengus, the Russians are blobbing. If you see Proteuses on scan, they will be on top of you in about a second. If you see a shitload of Proteuses, the big boys are having a goodfight. |
Vyktor Abyss
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
139
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:51:00 -
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In a game where so much depends on your reputation it is comedy when "old timers" like Damar post on the forums.
Everyone lost respect for him years ago and he just spews bile everywhere about the persecution he's suffered, which funnily enough attracts yet more people to persecute him.
He's his own worst enemy, and the fact he can't get over or even laugh about the abuse he's had in game points to the fact he's the sort fragile ego out of game that really should not be playing MMOs.
I too pity this chap.
One sad thing though is having such a vociferous, whiny, drama queen on any 'team' only serves to weaken the whole team. I hope the new Caldari recruits aren't put off by such a plonker and do actually stick around long enough to properly compete. should make FW mroe fun.
Toodles. o/\o to Gall in the old folks hospice.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
213
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:59:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote: I know you would love nothing but having ton of noobies flocking to caldari banner so you could go back to farming Nourv/Tama gate.
Completely baseless accusation. Caldari FW has moved. We would go back to farming the Icho/Akidagi gate.
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Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
3
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:01:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:Everyone lost respect for him years ago and he just spews bile everywhere about the persecution he's suffered, which funnily enough attracts yet more people to persecute him.
I am not the who is spamming my enemies evemail boxes with crappy mails and then asking the other guy to take a chill pill. The guy you shed your crocodile tears for on other thread did.
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Princess Nexxala
The Rock Hard Roosters Villore Accords
38
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:35:00 -
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nom nom noobs nom nom
X Gallentius wrote:Joanna Ramirez wrote: I know you would love nothing but having ton of noobies flocking to caldari banner so you could go back to farming Nourv/Tama gate.
Completely baseless accusation. Caldari FW has moved. We would go back to farming the Icho/Akidagi gate.
Is sexy time? |
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
94
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Posted - 2012.05.15 18:49:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:Everyone lost respect for him years ago and he just spews bile everywhere about the persecution he's suffered, which funnily enough attracts yet more people to persecute him. I am not the who is spamming my enemies evemail boxes with crappy mails and then asking the other guy to take a chill pill. The guy you shed your crocodile tears for on other thread did.
Sorry, what guy are you referring to? |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
186
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:02:00 -
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I only post here so Val Erian has something to complain about when he sees me in local.. |
Dirk Smacker
Inglorious-Basterds
38
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:03:00 -
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When I start watching a scene from Game Of Thrones, I expect to see some boobs. Or at least some cute boys making out. I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one. |
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
78
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Posted - 2012.05.15 23:21:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:Everyone lost respect for him years ago and he just spews bile everywhere about the persecution he's suffered, which funnily enough attracts yet more people to persecute him. I am not the who is spamming my enemies evemail boxes with crappy mails and then asking the other guy to take a chill pill. The guy you shed your crocodile tears for on other thread did.
Speaking as an outsider you are honestly your own worst enemy most of the time. The problem is that you never try to move past it and carry on, you just spew the same bullshit over and over and over to the point where people dont really care what happened, they just want you to shut up about it. Yes the people who did those things were assholes, I'll freely acknowledge that fact, but you seem to have planted your standard and sung your deathsong over something which no one outside of you and a small group of the gallente remembers or cares about.
Honestly I've been following faction warfare on and off for two and a half years now and I can't remember a time when you havent been a burned out, bitter old vet whining about some supposed wrong that happened long ago but should be treated as a thing of utmost importance no matter what.
Please for your own sake just let it go. |
Mister Kwong
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.05.16 00:01:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Joanna Ramirez wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:Everyone lost respect for him years ago and he just spews bile everywhere about the persecution he's suffered, which funnily enough attracts yet more people to persecute him. I am not the who is spamming my enemies evemail boxes with crappy mails and then asking the other guy to take a chill pill. The guy you shed your crocodile tears for on other thread did. Speaking as an outsider you are honestly your own worst enemy most of the time. The problem is that you never try to move past it and carry on, you just spew the same bullshit over and over and over to the point where people dont really care what happened, they just want you to shut up about it. Yes the people who did those things were assholes, I'll freely acknowledge that fact, but you seem to have planted your standard and sung your deathsong over something which no one outside of you and a small group of the gallente remembers or cares about. Honestly I've been following faction warfare on and off for two and a half years now and I can't remember a time when you havent been a burned out, bitter old vet whining about some supposed wrong that happened long ago but should be treated as a thing of utmost importance no matter what. Please for your own sake just let it go.
QFT. Quite frankly, I wonder why Super Chair keeps this guy around for so long in his alliance. Anyone who is this bitter about a video game and the people who play it is just a bit off IMHO. I mean dude, just log off for a few weeks and take a break from the game if you are this burned out.
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
212
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Posted - 2012.05.16 00:46:00 -
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Caldari turned to ****, Funny when we were in people bitched and moaned at us cause we "Demanded" Armor ships in armor fleets of all things. Though oddly enough we were getting great fights and even odder, WINNING.
Seems the only Caldari I see posting these days are those bitching about numbers.
Bitched so much the 180man corp(at the time) moved on and left you behide. Something you gleefully cheered about, now bitching you don't have ******* numbers. I could be wrong, but maybe be nicer to your friends, and they wont leave you in the dark holding your p3nis, looking for your balls.
There was a time you could run a CARRIER conga line around Enaluri Station, afk outside for 4 hours, or just lol forget to warp off gate while you go get some food. You would live, because everyone else would make sure you lived.
I would run a fleet back over to Hyd and park 80 guys on the undock but sorry boys, Too busy having fun in Amarr Low Sec to give a **** about ya.
*Bar a couple who I wont name cause its funnier if I don't(to me, private jokes a cool).
** Im actually a recruiter for my corp now, we're taking on people. We are out numbered but we dont ***** about it much, we just kills **** anyway. Check Kourm out the last couple days. Out numberd but killing ****, having fun. If you can deal with that feel free to apply. If not, sit in highsec and ***** about your side being too **** to do anything other then spin. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
187
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Posted - 2012.05.16 04:04:00 -
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sYnc Vir wrote:Caldari turned to ****, Funny when we were in people bitched and moaned at us cause we "Demanded" Armor ships in armor fleets of all things. Though oddly enough we were getting great fights and even odder, WINNING.
Seems the only Caldari I see posting these days are those bitching about numbers.
Bitched so much the 180man corp(at the time) moved on and left you behide. Something you gleefully cheered about, now bitching you don't have ******* numbers. I could be wrong, but maybe be nicer to your friends, and they wont leave you in the dark holding your p3nis, looking for your balls.
There was a time you could run a CARRIER conga line around Enaluri Station, afk outside for 4 hours, or just lol forget to warp off gate while you go get some food. You would live, because everyone else would make sure you lived.
I would run a fleet back over to Hyd and park 80 guys on the undock but sorry boys, Too busy having fun in Amarr Low Sec to give a **** about ya.
*Bar a couple who I wont name cause its funnier if I don't(to me, private jokes a cool).
** Im actually a recruiter for my corp now, we're taking on people. We are out numbered but we dont ***** about it much, we just kills **** anyway. Check Kourm out the last couple days. Out numberd but killing ****, having fun. If you can deal with that feel free to apply. If not, sit in highsec and ***** about your side being too **** to do anything other then spin.
Not that Caldari has been in very great ship since in the time I've been on this side, but I can understand why many of the Caldari din't mind seeing you guys leave. I never flew with you guys but I often remember seeing guys in your corp trolling general Militia instead of actually trying to help them get better.
You guys always seemed to have same elitist snobby attitude much like you are showing right now.. Lets also not forget that half the time you guys were more willing to fleet up with SoTF than your own Militia it really made little difference to most anyway when you left from what I saw.
Besides that lets not forget why you guys really left Caldari.. You guys left to form your now failed alliance with SoTF because you couldn't make it out in null sec. When you came back it most likely made a hell of a lot more since to go to Amarr rather than return to Caldari because bulk of Caldari fly shield fits.. Of course you are likely to find corps in Amarr that better match your Abaddon fleets.
Not to mention gives you added benefit to not have to shoot at your BFF's in Gal Militia and able to stay friendly. In all honestly I'd say the loss of Draketrain was felt much more than the loss of Wolfsbrigade. At least Draketrain was helping new militia guys instead of trolling them.
Lasted I noticed Amarr was also still losing their space, at least Caldari fighting back.. Might be getting out gunned most of the time, but at very least we haven't given up and keep at it. Amarr on other hand still seems to be expecting CCP to save them with a reset. |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
3
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Posted - 2012.05.16 04:14:00 -
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Mister Kwong wrote:I mean dude, just log off for a few weeks and take a break from the game if you are this burned out.
Actually last time I took a break there were forum comments along the lines "lololol, n00blet takes a break from game and does not want to fight" and on my return the first three gallentes I saw called me, in this order:
1: Exploiter 2: Dogshit stuck on a shoe (Hello Val) 3: Pedophile
It's nice to be loved eh? |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
108
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Posted - 2012.05.16 04:27:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:...Amarr on other hand still seems to be expecting CCP to save them with a reset. *Yawn*
If we had rats as nasty as your ECM spamming missile spewers Shakor would see his brain-washed meatshield living in high-sec .. just sayin'
PS: Reset at this point would be counter-productive as the Shakorites get to start off with little to no LP to earn .. the groans and moans will be hilarious.
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Aya Hekki
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.16 05:11:00 -
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Veshta, you keep mentioning the npc rats in the plexing way too much, the truth is it doesnt matter at all. i have been a part of the kourm slaughters the past couple of days, don't tell me that a stupid TP rat will make a difference with those 10~20 man fleets capping plexs , actually in majors and med plexes, the TD rats will be pretty much more helpful than a stupid TP.
maybe yes you cant "solo" or speed tank plexes like minmatar, but with the scale of fights i have seen in kourm, it doesnt matter one bit. |
Capitol One
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
18
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Posted - 2012.05.16 05:20:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:sYnc Vir wrote:Caldari turned to ****, Funny when we were in people bitched and moaned at us cause we "Demanded" Armor ships in armor fleets of all things. Though oddly enough we were getting great fights and even odder, WINNING.
Seems the only Caldari I see posting these days are those bitching about numbers.
Bitched so much the 180man corp(at the time) moved on and left you behide. Something you gleefully cheered about, now bitching you don't have ******* numbers. I could be wrong, but maybe be nicer to your friends, and they wont leave you in the dark holding your p3nis, looking for your balls.
There was a time you could run a CARRIER conga line around Enaluri Station, afk outside for 4 hours, or just lol forget to warp off gate while you go get some food. You would live, because everyone else would make sure you lived.
I would run a fleet back over to Hyd and park 80 guys on the undock but sorry boys, Too busy having fun in Amarr Low Sec to give a **** about ya.
*Bar a couple who I wont name cause its funnier if I don't(to me, private jokes a cool).
** Im actually a recruiter for my corp now, we're taking on people. We are out numbered but we dont ***** about it much, we just kills **** anyway. Check Kourm out the last couple days. Out numberd but killing ****, having fun. If you can deal with that feel free to apply. If not, sit in highsec and ***** about your side being too **** to do anything other then spin. Not that Caldari has been in very great shape since in the time I've been on this side, but I can understand why many of the Caldari din't mind seeing you guys leave. I never flew with you guys but I often remember seeing guys in your corp trolling general Militia instead of actually trying to help them get better. You guys always seemed to have same elitist snobby attitude much like you are showing right now.. Lets also not forget that half the time you guys were more willing to fleet up with SoTF than your own Militia it really made little difference to most anyway when you left from what I saw. Besides that lets not forget why you guys really left Caldari.. You guys left to form your now failed alliance with SoTF because you couldn't make it out in null sec you then came back to FW & went to Amarr. When you came back it most likely made a hell of a lot more since to go to Amarr rather than return to Caldari because bulk of Caldari fly shield fits.. Of course you are likely to find corps in Amarr that better match your Abaddon fleets. Not to mention gives you added benefit to not have to shoot at your BFF's in Gal Militia and able to stay friendly. In all honestly I'd say the loss of Draketrain was felt much more than the loss of Wolfsbrigade. At least Draketrain was helping new militia guys instead of trolling them. Lasted I noticed Amarr was also still losing their space, at least Caldari fail or not are still fighting back.. Might be getting out gunned most of the time, but at very least we haven't given up and keep at it. Amarr on other hand still seems to be expecting CCP to save them with a reset.
Ah yes, the age old "elitist bastard snobs! boooh" ...
Your accusation of us simply trolling the militia instead of helping players, completely wrong. We took a whole bunch of lower skilled pilots, trained them and polished, making caldari militia all the better for it.
Making the militia unified, having them fly in solid and proven fleet setups is bad somehow? Elitist? Come on, get out of your thrasher and understand that in order to fight a disciplined BS gang, you have to bring a BS gang or something able to counter that! Directing the militia to do just that is not elitist, it's just common sense.
Our fleeting up with SOTF had no effect on our efforts to fight the gallente, we'd be back shooting the frogs as soon as those ops were over, usually those took place far away or shooting local pirates. In fact, while W-BR was in caldari miltia we were at the top of the Caldari killboard month after month, so don't even think about saying we weren't contributing to the fight.
We never went to nullsec, we formed an alliance with SOTF, moved to a different lowsec area, got target starved, moved to the Amarr/Minmatar FW zone, then we realised the 2 corps functioned better apart than together, so W-BR came back to FW and joined the Amarr because it seemed like a much more active area and because we didn't feel like moving again so soon. SOTF left to join the Gallente again a bit later.
The fact is, Wolfsbrigade was and still is one of the best FW corporations out there, we rekindled the caldari militia warmachine and brought the fight to the frogs all the time, while training our recruits into the mean killing machines they are today, adapting and branching out to bigger and better fleet doctrines as time passed.
If striving to be the best we can is "snobbish" or "elitist" then **** it, I'll be a proud W-BR snob any day!
Also, you thinking the amarr have given up simply shows how little you know, protip: check the kills for kourmonen for the last couple of days, you might be shocked to see there's pvp happening!
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Mister Kwong
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.05.16 05:48:00 -
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Thing is, part of the reason WBR left squids because there was so much tension and backstabbing within the militia. I know some of the top leaders from the other corps couldn't stand First General because of the amount of poaching that he did to other squid corps. There isn't much courtesy and honor in that so it was only a matter of time that WBR would leave to go to a less hostile environment with less vitriol.
And there is this sort of elitist attitude that WBR has even amongst the Amarrian corps. It's like they think they're too good to fly with other alliances/corps like Amarr 7th, etc...
No doubt that WBR is a solid pvp corp but they've never played well with corps in either the Amarr or Caldari.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
18
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Posted - 2012.05.16 05:51:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:Caldari FW is pretty much dead at the moment and in desperate need of new corps and or alliances to join them to help the situation.
The plexxing front from Caldari seems to have ground to a halt (from what ive seen / been told) the PVP side of things is limited to a couple of small organised entities who still are doing there thing but overall its in a pitiful state and the patch is going to compound things even worse i fear.
E-peen waving and the usual haters aside i dont think any of us wants either side to be as dominant as it has been and tbh will continue to be by the looks of it.
But unless there is a shift in the balance of power with new corps / alliances joining then unfortunately i cant see it changing much.
Some Caldari players are still plexing - but the Gallente have some good organization and have flipped a few systems back very quickly lately. There is no point for us to attempt re-flipping them until a day or two before the patch is about to hit.
Due to their numbers the Gallente can just take any system they want at the moment. I don't think they have taken the systems that they will need, but the ones they think we will need. Once missions are not the only way to get LP, the Stations may be less important than many people presume.
I have decided to concentrate on a single goal in preparation of the upcoming changes. I hope that other Caldari players are doing something similar to myself and therefore only seem to be less active.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
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Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
3
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Posted - 2012.05.16 06:25:00 -
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Aya Hekki wrote:maybe yes you cant "solo" or speed tank plexes like minmatar, but with the scale of fights i have seen in kourm, it doesnt matter one bit.
I've never understood why people say matar plexes are somehow hard, I can take a major outpost with a navy caracal without much issues. Sure, their rats shoot missiles and tend to hit decently. So what? lock them, shoot them, kill them. It's not like they are unnerfed gallente dampers where every single rat is Ewar capable and elite cruisers reduce battlecruisers targeting range to 5km and locking time to 50 seconds which naturally presents some problems with abovementioned modus operandi.
This of course does not change the fact that Amarr npc rats are more or less a non-issue as far as I have seen and a one-legged dwarf can probably speed tank them. |
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
94
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Posted - 2012.05.16 07:19:00 -
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WBR, how dare you ask people to bring the right ships to fleets and how very dare you fc these fleets! Tch, Elitist snobs eh? |
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
94
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Posted - 2012.05.16 07:30:00 -
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Oh and Muttly, it was SoTF not WBR that went to 0.0 and got utterly bored shitless and came back after "failing". |
Kuehnelt
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
50
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Posted - 2012.05.16 07:43:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:WBR, how dare you ask people to bring the right ships to fleets and how very dare you fc these fleets! Tch, Elitist snobs eh?
Yeah, I think we all should strive to be more like W-BR. In this way: every one of us should make up our own pet complaints about ourselves that only we or our allies ever raise, which we can conflate with all incoming criticism. |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
124
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Posted - 2012.05.16 07:55:00 -
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To the op ... I am around for quite long and ibs is probably the only seriously killing corp on caldari side.
However changes of fW led us to decission o leave FW this Saturday.....just will have some last few days of fun killing gals and then we will seek pastures more green (or at least green).
Ignore bitching (mine too ;) ) .... If u wanna rp enjoy, but u gonna have serious trouble fighting odds under new rules....
If u r looking for decent isk and easier pvp join gals.... IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
178
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Posted - 2012.05.16 07:56:00 -
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Confirming when we step in 0.0 we fail miserably . Ok, sometimes we really do .
Back on topic, i wouldn't be so skeptical about caldari militia's future. And not because I think the way some ppl want to rebuild it will work, but mostly because some of the new corps that joined seem more willing to deploy heavier fleets even if they do lose. And before some people start raging that I like those cos we farm kills out of them, that's not the case.
I am a strong beliver in the fact that the only way of improving is taking fights, losing them, seeing what you did wrong and then improving from there. About 2 years ago for example, we dropped 6 carriers or so on an RnK fleet (the main fight featured in Ironclad) . We lost about 70 support , mostly bs and 1 carrier (Eddie's epic FCing beeing the only reason for us losing one cap not 6). But we learnt in that 75 minutes of fighting more than in a lifetime of flying BC . We saw how good their Guardians were and started copying their fits, we saw how good triage worked for them and started training for that, etc etc. Same thing when SoT moved in to Tama. We lost about 20 bil worth of ships only in the first week. A month later we were raping their BS fleeet and the triage that went with it (that's when the love story with WBR started) .
Some of the corps that joined Caldari now seem to be pretty much in the same mindset. Take fights, do your best and when you lose, buy another ship and go back at it and don't repeat what you did wrong last time. And long term, that's a winning strategy. Wouldn't be surprised if Templis Dragonaors or Serenity Prime kick our ass six months from now. |
WolfeReign
The Dead Rabbit Society
11
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Posted - 2012.05.16 08:02:00 -
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Caldari FW happens in plexes these days....anything outside a FW plex usually gets immediately hot dropped by gallente and their lovely capital ships |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
212
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Posted - 2012.05.16 10:54:00 -
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Forum ate my post, so **** it. Read Caps post |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
214
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Posted - 2012.05.16 11:11:00 -
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I hear that you can't post in italics if the forum eats your posts. c/d ? |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
212
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Posted - 2012.05.16 12:26:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:I hear that you can't post in italics if the forum eats your posts. c/d ?
No just forgot |
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