QFT. Quite frankly, I wonder why Super Chair keeps this guy around for so long in his alliance. Anyone who is this bitter about a video game and the people who play it is just a bit off IMHO. I mean dude, just log off for a few weeks and take a break from the game if you are this burned out.

Veshta, you keep mentioning the npc rats in the plexing way too much, the truth is it doesnt matter at all.
i have been a part of the kourm slaughters the past couple of days,
don't tell me that a stupid TP rat will make a difference with those 10~20 man fleets capping plexs , actually in majors and med plexes, the TD rats will be pretty much more helpful than a stupid TP.

maybe yes you cant "solo" or speed tank plexes like minmatar, but with the scale of fights i have seen in kourm, it doesnt matter one bit.

Plexing is broken, pure and simple.

There are issues with plexes that can be addressed, but they are definitely workable, and they are a source of excellent ship-limited fights if both parties are looking for one.

However changes of fW led us to decission o leave FW this Saturday.....just will have some last few days of fun killing gals and then we will seek pastures more green (or at least green).

I've never been in his corp, but I've helped him out from time to time. He seems like a well-adjusted nice person who does a pretty good job putting together fleets from the shallow pool our militia offers.

We Americans may just be better on the internet at conveying our awesomeness as people than the Europeans are.

The over-Incentivisation of plexing is...................1k lp a min or less if you solo.
That's still lower than missions and in deff plexing some times this will lead to getting more LP from ship kills well you lose a plex.

For sure on both counts, but the next "fix" is a massive over-Incentivisation for plexing with actual balance being addressed SoonGäó and the current norm of avoiding fights by over-shipping/blobbing rather than take the 'GF' at close to even odds will be reinforced to no end once ISK enters the picture.

So yeah, right on both counts .. first one this christmas if we are lucky and the other once in a blue moon

To the op ... I am around for quite long and ibs is probably the only seriously killing corp on caldari side.

However changes of fW led us to decission o leave FW this Saturday.....just will have some last few days of fun killing gals and then we will seek pastures more green (or at least green).

Ignore bitching (mine too ;) ) .... If u wanna rp enjoy, but u gonna have serious trouble fighting odds under new rules....


If u r looking for decent isk and easier pvp join gals....

Not so sure there will be an over-incentivization for plexing. Running numbers and... there will likely be many better ways to make isk in Eve than by orbiting buttons 23/7 (for example you will likely make more isk in the same amount of time by running L4 missions in high sec). If you are already active in FW running plexes, then it will be good income that will keep you in ships and fighting. But it won't really be good income for farmers.

Why would it? Winning side gets 4-16 times the isk payout compared to losing side. I mean, if I offered you a job and said you can choose your salary. Either 2000e/month or 10000e/month, which one you would pick?

I haven't checked out FW on SiSi yet (too busy with the wardec changes), but CCP is really stupid for not implementing diminishing returns for the 'winning' FW sides.

All we need is a thunderstorm, a chalkboard, Alec Baldwin in a three piece suit, and brass balls:

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/8278674/640/8278674.jpg

The over-Incentivisation of plexing is...................1k lp a min or less if you solo.
That's still lower than missions and in deff plexing some times this will lead to getting more LP from ship kills well you lose a plex.

As is now "winning" makes things cheaper, coming back from losing makes the most LP. can see how that's sposta balance but only play testing/playing will tell.

Are you adding the Bonuses to that figure? Level of System Upgrade?

Confirming when we step in 0.0 we fail miserably . Ok, sometimes we really do .


Back on topic, i wouldn't be so skeptical about caldari militia's future. And not because I think the way some ppl want to rebuild it will work, but mostly because some of the new corps that joined seem more willing to deploy heavier fleets even if they do lose. And before some people start raging that I like those cos we farm kills out of them, that's not the case.

I am a strong beliver in the fact that the only way of improving is taking fights, losing them, seeing what you did wrong and then improving from there. About 2 years ago for example, we dropped 6 carriers or so on an RnK fleet (the main fight featured in Ironclad) . We lost about 70 support , mostly bs and 1 carrier (Eddie's epic FCing beeing the only reason for us losing one cap not 6). But we learnt in that 75 minutes of fighting more than in a lifetime of flying BC . We saw how good their Guardians were and started copying their fits, we saw how good triage worked for them and started training for that, etc etc. Same thing when SoT moved in to Tama. We lost about 20 bil worth of ships only in the first week. A month later we were raping their BS fleeet and the triage that went with it (that's when the love story with WBR started) .

Some of the corps that joined Caldari now seem to be pretty much in the same mindset. Take fights, do your best and when you lose, buy another ship and go back at it and don't repeat what you did wrong last time. And long term, that's a winning strategy. Wouldn't be surprised if Templis Dragonaors or Serenity Prime kick our ass six months from now.

P.S. In 6 months we plan on kicking your ass ;)

No, I just refuse to be polite to people who never deserved it.

DnD/Shadowfed and friends are too busy shooting Minnies.
no moar love for the Caldari.

If you look at the roster of corps currently on the gal side, the only way for caldari to make any headway is for an established pvp corp to join the cause. A new corp will not have room to organically grow within the current mechanics to challenge the established pvp focused corps in the gal militia, which is a shame.

Why would it? Winning side gets 4-16 times the isk payout compared to losing side. I mean, if I offered you a job and said you can choose your salary. Either 2000e/month or 10000e/month, which one you would pick?

Yes they can. You get better by fighting people that are better than you. For many of us in Gallente militia, we know this and actively seek fights against superior opponents. We've taken fights with some pirate/0.0 corps who handed our ass to us. It really humbles you and makes you improve your game.

Fighting inferior opponents and winning does not make you better. It makes you arrogant and careless. We fought Caldari militia in Okkamon for like 3 hours last night. We were outnumbered and out shipped. We won ever single fight. We knew we shouldn't be taking these fights as on paper we should have been creamed. Did we learn anything? Did we improve anything about ourselves? The answer is no. Did the Caldari? That answer is YES.

That's because the bulk of Cal Militia still insists on flying Moas & Caracals for plex fighting instead of ships that would actually win fights. The rest being a random assortment of badly fit ships with the occasional proper fits.

It's not big secret that Ruptures, & Thoraxs or Vexors as you had that time are going to spank the living hell out of Moas, Caracals and the occasional Rupture.

You guys are a single corp that can put out a gang close to what all those mixed corps brought. You have advantage of being able to get all your guys on same page with ships/gang set up to work together. Meanwhile you fought a bunch of guys from random corps flying everything under the sun with no unified fleet concept.

Until Caldari learns that fleets need to consist of more than "just bring what you can".. then I suspect they wont learn enough.Its nice to see Caldari is finally getting some numbers but it would be nicer to see them actually fielding those numbers in proper gangs.