No.. our corp for example recruits a lot of brand new guys.. It's just we tend to push them into Thrashers and now starting to push them into Ruptures after that. They are easy ships to get guys into and allows lower skill point guys to still be effective.

I still can't see how this is any different from normal PvP. Surely FW PvP has to be more than just choosing sides, regardless of what race you are, what race's ships you fly, etc. I know I'm being a bit puritanical about it, but I can't see how flying any ship that works for you, and joining any militia regardless of your race is any different really from free-for-all PvP. The fact that there is no restriction (real or imagined) to who can fight for whom and in what ships is probably the reason that Caldari apparently (according to this thread) don't have a strong militia. Too many just give up and go to join someone else (Gallente?).

I think CCP has hopelessly compromised the game as far as FW is concerned. I'm sure at some point (probably long ago) the idea was that people would participate in FW in their own factions and their own race's ships, but all the rules that would have been in place back then have long since been watered down and/or completely removed and now it's just a free-for-all WoW-style. I think CCP's revamp of the skilling for racial destroyers and bcs could be a way too delayed attempt to push things back to racial lines, and judging by the complaints that have come from the user base, it might be having some of the desired effect, but I don't know that it's going to make much difference. It will still remain the die-hard Caldari pilots who steadfastly hold the line for the Caldari Militia.

Yes.

So my stance on this is doomed to oblivion. Given that I find the idea of training another race's ships somewhat less than alluring, I don't know what my destiny is in EVE. I guess I can just keep flying Caldari ships and wear the consequences, but it saddens me that the game has allowed complete breakdown of racial/factional alignment to such an extent. And it's at every level, too - pilots can just retrain into any skills they want, can remap for any attributes they want regardless of their chosen bloodline. Really, race means hardly anything at all, except purely as a starting point. That removes so much richness from the game, IMHO.

So my stance on this is doomed to oblivion. Given that I find the idea of training another race's ships somewhat less than alluring, I don't know what my destiny is in EVE.

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Congratulations. You just over analyzed everything and talked yourself out of FW. Just move on at this point. Paralysis from over analysis

Your destiny is to join the Caldari Militia, learn to fly Caldari ships well, and then start a Caldari militia corp whose purpose is to bring together other players who want to fly in all-Caldari fleets. Your Eve-life now has a purpose. Have at it.

Exactly what you describe here is exactly what separates eve from the swathes of other MMO's on the market. In eve you don't role a particular race / class and then get stuck with that skill set for your entire career. There are literally thousands of other games you could / should be playing if this is what you are looking for.

Please take your misguided requests elsewhere and stop trying to ruin our game.

Dead Rabbits Society is focused on an all Caldari fleet.

http://www.thedeadrabbitsociety.com/

Your destiny is to join the Caldari Militia, learn to fly Caldari ships well, and then start a Caldari militia corp whose purpose is to bring together other players who want to fly in all-Caldari fleets. Your Eve-life now has a purpose. Have at it.

As a nub (well vetern nub I was on the Gallente side 2 years ago) going into the Gallente / Caldari FW it's too late for me to join the Caldari side (-7.20 I ain't grinding that **** up) I'm not however adverse to selling cheap ships to both sides, along with helping some of the new squids I get some GF's out of with a bit of extra pewing isk, and some pointers.

I know I can't speak for everyone, but I'm in it for the lulz, and the GF's not the roflstomping the other side out of the game.

Honestly, I was thinking about joining Cal FW a while ago, but every time I see FW threads here, I know I made the right choice by STAYING AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS POSSIBLE.

Caps added to convey that I am shouting at the reader.

Honestly, I was thinking about joining Cal FW a while ago, but every time I see FW threads here, I know I made the right choice by STAYING AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS POSSIBLE.

Caps added to convey that I am shouting at the reader.

EDIT: I didn't read the last couple of pages because the beginning of the thread was so bad, but there is some cool discussions on those ships.

Are there any Caldari corps currently involved in Caldari-Gallente FW and are also looking for new pilots? Could you throw me some names?

EU TZ

Templar Dragonaris alliance (Dark Circle Enforcement)
Black Rise Guerillas (Germans)
Nasranite Watch - Caldari State Capturing (Most active people are finns but foreigners are welcome)
4Horsemen

US TZ

SQUIDS.
Project Cerberus - Caldari State Capturing

Those are which I know. Seems to have lots of new people popping in and out too (Bloomswarm?) so perhaps joining npc militia and asking around helps.

If you are brand spanking new to PVP I would suggest Squids. Mutinin does a great job of teaching newer players how to fly as well as very noob friendly fleets.

Mutnin is a tool who hides his forces in high sec. Join Gallente! We live, fight, and win deep in enemy territory. I hear Gallente Militia War College is recruiting and training pilots so they can live and survive the harsh environment of low sec where all the real action is. Plus, the dual repping incursus is the bomb!

Ignore this man he is bitter

If you listen to this man you will be flying warp core stabbed Condors in back water systems for the rest of your Eve life. Join Gallente, fly real combat ships in real fights on the front lines!

If you are brand spanking new to PVP I would suggest Squids. Mutinin does a great job of teaching newer players how to fly as well as very noob friendly fleets.

Mutnin is a tool who hides his forces in high sec. Join Gallente! We live, fight, and win deep in enemy territory. I hear Gallente Militia War College is recruiting and training pilots so they can live and survive the harsh environment of low sec where all the real action is. Plus, the dual repping incursus is the bomb!

Forgive me, my friend, but my loyalty is to the State only and I wish to fly under Caldari banner Nevertheless thanks for the offer.

Hey !! I have never once in my eve life flown a condor.

Forgive me, my friend, but my loyalty is to the State only and I wish to fly under Caldari banner Nevertheless thanks for the offer.