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Jones Bones
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.10 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Hello. 1. Set these corps and individuals to deep red. 2. Watch local carefully 3. Fly with escorts. Particularly interceptors that can catch and pod the pirates before they reach home base. 4. Shift to another system and spread your corp mates into different systems. This complicates the ability of the pirates to reach you, and makes it more likely that interceptors can catch and kill their pods. 5. Check the Death of Virtue and Chimera Killboards. You can easily surmise the systems they are focusing on. 5. Fit tank, and be aligned to a warp out point. 6. Space out your ships, and be wary of other ship parking close by. 7. Spread word of this threat to your friends, corp mates, and other corps.
1. Good luck with that. 2. Carebears never watch local, unless there's a carebear crying in it. 3. I'm sure some dude in an inty wants to sit there while you grind rocks. Even intys can't catch pods anyways. 4. Won't matter, can only do 1 at a time and we'll eventually get to you. 5. They aren't the only ones doing HULKAMANIA 5?. Buffer tank helps against casual gankers, but not the determined. (Fit T2 rigs plox!) 6. Covops scouts cloak, GG. 7. There are hundreds of threads about this, it isn't helping. =================== Go Bucks! |
Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:10:00 -
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1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
1. Buy, Insure, and fly a covetor. 2. Warp to belt 3. Mine merrily 4. ????? 5. Profit.
1. Move to another region. 2. Warp to belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ?????? 5. Profit.
1. Jump in Hulk. 2. Warp to belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ??????? (get suicide ganked) 5. -Profit + Carebear Tears
That was difficult to figure out no?
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
THIS!
For even more safety: do it with 3 corpmates or something. Preloading belts with concord spawns allways makes for great griefer tears |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit. |
Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Explain to me how you were caught? Maybe those three Ibis pilots really thought they could take me down? Maybe they realy dont like me and they dont care how many concord ships are around?!
Fact is, theres no way to tell whether someone is shooting themselves on purpose unless they are doing it from the same IP, which can easily be circumvented.
I do have a hulk pilot alt, but I haven't mined in over a month anyway. It's really hardly worth the time when you can run level 4's.
Anyone of you suicided hulk pilots wanna buy my alts Hulk for 96 mil? |
sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Dude, what are you on? CCP is not going to act on this.
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Gore Axe
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Posted - 2009.06.10 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dracoknight it would be better if this stayed in the science & industry to create fear and choas for the carebears that happens to be there
Killing Hulks is not a crime and hence does not deserve any punishment. I vote for bouncing it back to the bears' forum Who is General Failure , and why is he reading my drive ?!!??! |
Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.06.10 15:59:00 -
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GO MY PIRATE FRIENDS
WE HAVE YOUR BACKS AGAINST THE HIGHSEC MINER THREAT
HULKS DIE MINERS R SMELLY LAWLZ PEW PEW BOOM
LAWLZ!!!!1 |
Kastio Delago
TransWarp Ventures
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:18:00 -
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wow..........
Seriously though, the "tip" about having ceptor pilots around to pod the pirates was lol.
Only a ceptor could catch a pod coming through a gate, as long as the pod pilot is drunk or asleep or otherwise does something stupid. And I'm sure the ceptor pilot won't mind getting insta popped by the gate guns when he tries to tackle or web or shoot the fail pod. And who needs sec status anyways? Bring back the Gummi Bears TV Series! |
Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:44:00 -
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Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah |
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:55:00 -
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I'm female and as such say die hippy industrialist tree huggers of sharufail.
I like that you fly failfits just like me though.
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.10 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
A lot of WORDS that equate to: Halp!
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
A lot of WORDS that equate to: Halp!
Well, it's nicely put though. Even made me consider halping him for a brief moment. Very brief moment though
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PCaBoo
BlackJack Kings
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:08:00 -
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wow... Save/Nuke the whales? >
________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Grann Thefauto
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
Nice, lol. I don't think Aristotle would approve of you misusing him for ad hominem attacks.
Quote: asymmetric struggle
By which I take it you mean "losing"?
Very nice idealistic sentiments Delilah, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding about pirates and what makes them tick. I'll leave that up to you to discover what that is.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:29:00 -
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whispi's cool
frozen was mean to me.
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Wreck Disposal Services |
PantrashMoFo
Caldari Bruggen Raiders
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:49:00 -
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As a carebear i have been shocked at the contents of some of these posts. Some of you people have no regard for how some people gain essential isk for themselves in this game and are doing your best to disrupt it.
So it is with great reluctance but unwaivering determination i am going to do my part to push the tide of violence away from these hard working folks.
Just a quick question before i do though, how much of my 4.3 sec status am i going to lose by ganking one of these hulk b*stards in say a .5 system? |
arbiter reformed
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.10 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: arbiter reformed on 10/06/2009 19:40:46
Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
"an extraordinary person has a right. . . not an official one of course, but a private one, to allow his conscience to step across certain. . . obstacles, and then only if the execution of his idea (which may occasionally be the salvation of all mankind) requires it"
i truly believe that this is a step in the right direction to saving eve, morals are socially driven and not hard wired into us. what is considered right and wrong may vary between cultures and people. murdering hulks to serve his own personal higher purpose is morally acceptable by me. i fully support the indiscriminate killing of hulks
edit: also carebare tears ftw |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2009.06.10 19:49:00 -
[49]
I was disappointed to see that Delilah is in a nub corp. No corp history whatsoever. |
GodsVervloek
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.06.10 23:09:00 -
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Piracy has never been an honorable profession, it's not about taking someone on that can fight back, it's about going for the easy kill. That's why it's called piracy, it's their right to kill your hulk, you may not like it but that's the way it is. I also mined in high-sec when I still had a miner, but eventually moved to 0.0. It was the best decision ever, there are never a shortage of ore, loads of valuable ore, which in turn equals loads of ISK. Sure, you'll have to tank your hulk, mine in groups, sometimes with protection. But you make so much isk that even if you pay your protection (they can rat too if they wish), that especially with a Rorq you'll still come out on top.
That in my opinion, is your best bet. Right now you're wasting so much time fighting the pirates and not mining that it's not profitable anymore (and the more you fight said pirates, the happier you make them, they love combat pvp after all). Forget mercenaries, find a good 0.0 industrial alliance, you'll have a lot more fun there.
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Rip Minner
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Posted - 2009.06.10 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grann Thefauto
Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
Nice, lol. I don't think Aristotle would approve of you misusing him for ad hominem attacks.
Quote: asymmetric struggle
By which I take it you mean "losing"?
Very nice idealistic sentiments Delilah, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding about pirates and what makes them tick. I'll leave that up to you to discover what that is.
That parts easy pirates are sick people that enjoy other peoples misery. And even better if they can be the sorce of that misery :)
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PantrashMoFo
Caldari Bruggen Raiders
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Posted - 2009.06.10 23:23:00 -
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Well i decided to do my bit to reduce the hulk menace but being a complete noob at suicide ganking i got a hulk to 10% structure with my brutix before it got concord love.
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3506489
undeterred i roamed some more and stumbled across this guy
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3506491
God bless him for the awful hatemail and god bless him for having his drones out and aggressive as my sec status is still above 4 and he doesnt have kill rights either. The BS was no doubt over the top but with loot and salvage i am only about 10 mill down after both attempts.affordable fun all round i feel. I can reccomend that everyone tries it once ( Or twice if you are a nub like me ) |
Tobarg Shh
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 00:13:00 -
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So if i post, a hulk dies?
-fake edit Doh, wrong thread
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Felix Jugo
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Posted - 2009.06.11 09:41:00 -
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Delilah, I'm sympathetic. Highsec pirates who leave a pile of wrecks lying outside a starter station are akin to people who kick puppy dogs. Having said that, I think that taking down a highsec Hulk can sometimes be hero's work.
I've come to think so because I'm new enough that I've only just lost access to rookie help. I've been listening in. Here's what I'd hear over and over and over:
"the mission told me to warp out and mine here, but there's no ore...where's the ore?...will it come back?...what do I do now?..."
Pity them. These embryonic capsuleers have been playing EVE for all of ten minutes.* They have no idea where else to mine, and even if they did there might be no ore left in the system. They wander around lost and confused, losing much more time than they would have if they'd been shot. This seems to be happening throughout the day (whenever I've been on, at least), not just in the hours before shutdown (though it's bad just before shutdown).
Yes, pirates drink carebear tears as if they were gin, but at least they have the common decency to shoot their victims in the face. I'm not at all opposed to highsec mining, but there are places where stripmining should not happen.
Delilah, if I were you I'd be tempted to work with the pirates on this one. If you see a Hulk at work in a starter mission belt/system, give them one warning. If they keep it up, put the ship's pilot on your hit list. At some convenient future time and place, feed detailed real-time intel on the guilty to a hulk-gank-capable pirate corps. You would also be diverting attention away from innocent highsec Hulks. For the trifecta, the gankers might even be willing to pay you for your detective work if you were good enough at it to make it quick for them to find a relatively easy target.
* I believe (?) there's been a CONCORD petition about this. You'd think that this sort of thing would be a top CCP priority, seeing as EVE must be losing frustrated hatchlings at an amazing rate. Until then, why should vigilantes and privateers let CONCORD have all the fun?
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Mystafyre
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: sir gankalot
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Dude, what are you on? CCP is not going to act on this.
Ohh yes the do.. It's on same scale than ganking in Black Ops and then jumping to lowsec.. Don't do it.. |
Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:07:00 -
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I'll make sure to set Death of virtue to deep red, although I have to admit I like seeing them as sky blue. |
species2143
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: species2143 on 11/06/2009 18:37:43 Can't stand that jerk miner shooting at your roids? Want to eliminate the competition? Here's your chance Call 1-800-HULKMANIA and get rid of that pesty macrominer ruining your business.
For further information and donations contact major reach
confirming I will be receiving the ISK |
Pajama Sam
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Jugo Highsec pirates who leave a pile of wrecks lying outside a starter station are akin to people who kick puppy dogs.
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Nahkep Narmelion
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Nahkep Narmelion on 11/06/2009 23:28:08
Originally by: Felix Jugo
Delilah, if I were you I'd be tempted to work with the pirates on this one. If you see a Hulk at work in a starter mission belt/system, give them one warning. If they keep it up, put the ship's pilot on your hit list. At some convenient future time and place, feed detailed real-time intel on the guilty to a hulk-gank-capable pirate corps.
Balle, Vylade, Nausschie, Erme, and the other systems these guys operate in are not rookie starter systems.
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: rantuket It is a bit nasty suicide ganking a Hulk, kind of like picking on the ******ed kid at school. You may laugh, but there is nothing smart or funny about ******ation.
Keep the ganking to boast-worthy targets.
suddenly, white-knights, fousands of em Sir!
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