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Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2009.06.09 21:01:00 -
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Hello.
The suicide ganking of Hulks near the Decon and Sharuveil systems continues. These attacks are being undertaken by members of the Death of Virtue and Chimeras Raiders corps and their allies. Major Reach, his alt Empty Second, Mina Tsukiyama, Glodde, Ronja, and Dave Hourai (amongst others) are the primary perpetrators.
Here is how it works. They fly a gang of five or more blaster-fitted thoraxes, and stage near the Nausschie gate in Sharuveil, or the Balle gate in Decon. Empty Second or another alt then scouts out a belt with miners, and positions himself near one of those ships. He is fleeted with the thorax gang. The gang then jumps into system, warps to the alt, and suicide ganks the Hulk.
Concord does intervene and destroys the gang's vessels. The pirate pods warp back to Decon. On the way they merrily mock the victim. They then prepare to do the same thing over and over again.
Miners and others in nearby systems can take several actions to protect themselves. Some of these include the following
1. Set these corps and individuals to deep red. 2. Watch local carefully 3. Fly with escorts. Particularly interceptors that can catch and pod the pirates before they reach home base. 4. Shift to another system and spread your corp mates into different systems. This complicates the ability of the pirates to reach you, and makes it more likely that interceptors can catch and kill their pods. 5. Check the Death of Virtue and Chimera Killboards. You can easily surmise the systems they are focusing on. 5. Fit tank, and be aligned to a warp out point. 6. Space out your ships, and be wary of other ship parking close by. 7. Spread word of this threat to your friends, corp mates, and other corps.
In addition, do not take this lying down. Self respect means standing up for oneself and for others when you can. So consider lending your help to the Friends of Sharuveil. We are an anti-pirate movement currently resisting these same pirates. You can learn more about us at http://friendsofsharuveil.wordpress.com.
You can help us militarily, materially and morally in three broad ways. First, create a pvp character and/or squad and fly with others of similar minds in Sharuveil and Decon. There is specific advice on how to do this properly on the Friends' blog. Second, donate isk, ships, modules and weapons to the Friends. The Deconites are worthy adversaries, and the skirmishes and battles are inevitably costly. Third, let the EVE community know of your support for our work.
Its time EVE became a freer place for the rest of us. Together, we can make a real difference.
Delilah Wild |
Loco Eve
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Posted - 2009.06.09 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Loco Eve on 09/06/2009 21:21:57 Edited by: Loco Eve on 09/06/2009 21:21:39 why not move your butts to 0.0 where hulks were intended to be used. lots more ore there also. until then stop whining. because, nobody is listening. |
Bendenn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.09 21:34:00 -
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Could we maybe just get over the whole "Hulks only belong in 0.0" argument. Every time anyone posts about a Hulk kill in empire it's followed by a string of move to 0.0 responses. Tell 'ya what, I'll relocate my Hulks to 0.0 as soon as all the billion ISK faction fit mission runners do the same. If CCP had intended them to be 0.0 only they would be classed as capital ships.
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Marius Deterium
Caldari The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.06.09 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Marius Deterium on 09/06/2009 21:42:49 Teh carebear tears are sooo sweet.
Please make more posts about hulks getting suicided in empire. It makes me smile and feel all warm inside.
--- Mining hulls for the juicy goods inside.
Good...bad, I'm the guy with the gun. |
Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:06:00 -
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apparently you haven't seen this thread... Linkage
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:14:00 -
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Hello Delilah Wild, Arec Bardwin here.
There is another option; mine in L1 mission deadspace.
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Denidil
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Arec Bardwin Hello Delilah Wild, Arec Bardwin here.
There is another option; mine in L1 mission deadspace.
which wouldn't let a hulk in and they can scan you down.
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Rip Minner
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:42:00 -
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plz just go put your hulk up and grab a Coveter for a spell. The rocks are so small in high sec that you mine just about the same with one anyways. Becouse the hulk losses so much more m3 everyother cycle then a Coveter. |
Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2009.06.10 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild ....wurds....more wurds....even more wurds.... Second, donate isk, ships, modules and weapons to the Friends. The Deconites are worthy adversaries, and the skirmishes and battles are inevitably costly. ....
i see what you did there |
species2143
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Posted - 2009.06.10 00:17:00 -
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LMAO
http://friendsofsharuveil.wordpress.com/ |
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Nisstyree
Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.10 00:26:00 -
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Oh god the lolz when this thread gets moved to where it belongs |
Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:22:00 -
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Perhaps you should take some time and head to the Crime and Punishment forums. There's a certain thread that might interest you.
Linkage!
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NoLSolid
Gallente VITUPERATED HYSTERIA
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:29:00 -
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OMG OMG I have tears in my eyes from laughter, I love you Reach and DoV <3 ha ha ha!!! |
Glodde
The Bear Lodge
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:34:00 -
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Yes we will continue to kill hulks! friends of shar cant stop us! every time you make one of these post delilah, 10 more hulks will die! |
h3llscr3am
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:35:00 -
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omg.... chill on the pills dude..... lulzzzz |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:36:00 -
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I see this is a thinly veiled begging thread. Pathetic. |
Glodde
The Bear Lodge
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: Glodde on 10/06/2009 02:04:32
1st kill HULK KILL thanks Delilah!!!!
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Ronja
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.10 01:58:00 -
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plz don't nerf major reach
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Taedrin
Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.10 03:07:00 -
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Have you tried: 1) Hiring mercenaries/escorts to protect you 2) Moving to a different system (plenty of them available in high sec) 3) Downgrade to an insurable covetor.
Option 3 makes you lose 300m^3 per minute, but on the other hand is much cheaper to lose.
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Glodde
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.10 03:08:00 -
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another Delilah kill and related friends of Shar
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rantuket
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.10 04:38:00 -
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It is a bit nasty suicide ganking a Hulk, kind of like picking on the ******ed kid at school. You may laugh, but there is nothing smart or funny about ******ation.
Keep the ganking to boast-worthy targets. |
Kat Bandeis
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.10 06:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kat Bandeis on 10/06/2009 06:32:18 Wow. The solution is pretty friggin' obvious, but like most EVE players, you choose to be lazy. Rock on.
Edit: friggin' grammar... |
Kat Bandeis
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.10 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: rantuket It is a bit nasty suicide ganking a Hulk, kind of like picking on the ******ed kid at school. You may laugh, but there is nothing smart or funny about ******ation.
Keep the ganking to boast-worthy targets.
Since when has that stopped losers that can't survive in 0.0??? |
Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.06.10 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kat Bandeis Edited by: Kat Bandeis on 10/06/2009 06:32:18 Wow. The solution is pretty friggin' obvious, but like most EVE players, you choose to be lazy. Rock on.
Edit: friggin' grammar...
Grammar isn't the only thing you fail at, reading the OP is another. |
Whispi
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Posted - 2009.06.10 07:12:00 -
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Op first came to shar and declared the place to be some sort of wild life sanctuary, then started smacking us about our pirate lifestyles.
Needless to say blaster fire ensued. Smack rose to intolerable levels, and some of us blocked it.
I believe at one stage, someone in DOV had enough and stated that they'd gank a hulk everytime they saw the OP in local, but really, who needs a reason to gank a hulk other than it's there.
Our kill boards are looking much fatter since these arrogant *****s moved in, so we're happy to have them bring as many people to low sec as want to join them.
Up to now we've been engaging them in t1 cruisers, but some carebears have seen fit to up the anti to BS. Needless to say we've stepped up to that challenge.
Newsflash: water is wet, low sec is dangerous. Read the pop up twice before you jump in and start mouthing off like a ******ed moron.
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.06.10 07:58:00 -
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Moved to " Crime & Punishment ".
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.06.10 08:04:00 -
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Because we dont have enough of these?
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Dracoknight
The Directorate
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Posted - 2009.06.10 08:06:00 -
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it would be better if this stayed in the science & industry to create fear and choas for the carebears that happens to be there |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.10 09:53:00 -
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No it's funny and appropriate that it was moved to C&P. Outing the op's moronic campaign and NOT warning the bears. Most of whom probably don't read the forums anyway.
I especially liked the kill in Vylade, 2 jumps from low sec. PRO.
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Loco Eve Edited by: Loco Eve on 09/06/2009 21:21:57 Edited by: Loco Eve on 09/06/2009 21:21:39 why not move your butts to 0.0 where hulks were intended to be used. lots more ore there also. until then stop whining. because, nobody is listening.
Stop whining yourself. Hmmm, 'pirate' tears
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Jones Bones
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.10 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Hello. 1. Set these corps and individuals to deep red. 2. Watch local carefully 3. Fly with escorts. Particularly interceptors that can catch and pod the pirates before they reach home base. 4. Shift to another system and spread your corp mates into different systems. This complicates the ability of the pirates to reach you, and makes it more likely that interceptors can catch and kill their pods. 5. Check the Death of Virtue and Chimera Killboards. You can easily surmise the systems they are focusing on. 5. Fit tank, and be aligned to a warp out point. 6. Space out your ships, and be wary of other ship parking close by. 7. Spread word of this threat to your friends, corp mates, and other corps.
1. Good luck with that. 2. Carebears never watch local, unless there's a carebear crying in it. 3. I'm sure some dude in an inty wants to sit there while you grind rocks. Even intys can't catch pods anyways. 4. Won't matter, can only do 1 at a time and we'll eventually get to you. 5. They aren't the only ones doing HULKAMANIA 5?. Buffer tank helps against casual gankers, but not the determined. (Fit T2 rigs plox!) 6. Covops scouts cloak, GG. 7. There are hundreds of threads about this, it isn't helping. =================== Go Bucks! |
Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:10:00 -
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1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
1. Buy, Insure, and fly a covetor. 2. Warp to belt 3. Mine merrily 4. ????? 5. Profit.
1. Move to another region. 2. Warp to belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ?????? 5. Profit.
1. Jump in Hulk. 2. Warp to belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ??????? (get suicide ganked) 5. -Profit + Carebear Tears
That was difficult to figure out no?
Click for gallery! |
sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
THIS!
For even more safety: do it with 3 corpmates or something. Preloading belts with concord spawns allways makes for great griefer tears |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit. |
Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.10 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Explain to me how you were caught? Maybe those three Ibis pilots really thought they could take me down? Maybe they realy dont like me and they dont care how many concord ships are around?!
Fact is, theres no way to tell whether someone is shooting themselves on purpose unless they are doing it from the same IP, which can easily be circumvented.
I do have a hulk pilot alt, but I haven't mined in over a month anyway. It's really hardly worth the time when you can run level 4's.
Anyone of you suicided hulk pilots wanna buy my alts Hulk for 96 mil? |
sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Dude, what are you on? CCP is not going to act on this.
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Gore Axe
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Posted - 2009.06.10 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dracoknight it would be better if this stayed in the science & industry to create fear and choas for the carebears that happens to be there
Killing Hulks is not a crime and hence does not deserve any punishment. I vote for bouncing it back to the bears' forum Who is General Failure , and why is he reading my drive ?!!??! |
Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.06.10 15:59:00 -
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GO MY PIRATE FRIENDS
WE HAVE YOUR BACKS AGAINST THE HIGHSEC MINER THREAT
HULKS DIE MINERS R SMELLY LAWLZ PEW PEW BOOM
LAWLZ!!!!1 |
Kastio Delago
TransWarp Ventures
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:18:00 -
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wow..........
Seriously though, the "tip" about having ceptor pilots around to pod the pirates was lol.
Only a ceptor could catch a pod coming through a gate, as long as the pod pilot is drunk or asleep or otherwise does something stupid. And I'm sure the ceptor pilot won't mind getting insta popped by the gate guns when he tries to tackle or web or shoot the fail pod. And who needs sec status anyways? Bring back the Gummi Bears TV Series! |
Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:44:00 -
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Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah |
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:55:00 -
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I'm female and as such say die hippy industrialist tree huggers of sharufail.
I like that you fly failfits just like me though.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.10 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
A lot of WORDS that equate to: Halp!
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
A lot of WORDS that equate to: Halp!
Well, it's nicely put though. Even made me consider halping him for a brief moment. Very brief moment though
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PCaBoo
BlackJack Kings
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:08:00 -
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wow... Save/Nuke the whales? >
________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Grann Thefauto
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
Nice, lol. I don't think Aristotle would approve of you misusing him for ad hominem attacks.
Quote: asymmetric struggle
By which I take it you mean "losing"?
Very nice idealistic sentiments Delilah, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding about pirates and what makes them tick. I'll leave that up to you to discover what that is.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:29:00 -
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whispi's cool
frozen was mean to me.
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Wreck Disposal Services |
PantrashMoFo
Caldari Bruggen Raiders
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:49:00 -
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As a carebear i have been shocked at the contents of some of these posts. Some of you people have no regard for how some people gain essential isk for themselves in this game and are doing your best to disrupt it.
So it is with great reluctance but unwaivering determination i am going to do my part to push the tide of violence away from these hard working folks.
Just a quick question before i do though, how much of my 4.3 sec status am i going to lose by ganking one of these hulk b*stards in say a .5 system? |
arbiter reformed
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.10 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: arbiter reformed on 10/06/2009 19:40:46
Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
"an extraordinary person has a right. . . not an official one of course, but a private one, to allow his conscience to step across certain. . . obstacles, and then only if the execution of his idea (which may occasionally be the salvation of all mankind) requires it"
i truly believe that this is a step in the right direction to saving eve, morals are socially driven and not hard wired into us. what is considered right and wrong may vary between cultures and people. murdering hulks to serve his own personal higher purpose is morally acceptable by me. i fully support the indiscriminate killing of hulks
edit: also carebare tears ftw |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2009.06.10 19:49:00 -
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I was disappointed to see that Delilah is in a nub corp. No corp history whatsoever. |
GodsVervloek
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.06.10 23:09:00 -
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Piracy has never been an honorable profession, it's not about taking someone on that can fight back, it's about going for the easy kill. That's why it's called piracy, it's their right to kill your hulk, you may not like it but that's the way it is. I also mined in high-sec when I still had a miner, but eventually moved to 0.0. It was the best decision ever, there are never a shortage of ore, loads of valuable ore, which in turn equals loads of ISK. Sure, you'll have to tank your hulk, mine in groups, sometimes with protection. But you make so much isk that even if you pay your protection (they can rat too if they wish), that especially with a Rorq you'll still come out on top.
That in my opinion, is your best bet. Right now you're wasting so much time fighting the pirates and not mining that it's not profitable anymore (and the more you fight said pirates, the happier you make them, they love combat pvp after all). Forget mercenaries, find a good 0.0 industrial alliance, you'll have a lot more fun there.
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Rip Minner
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Posted - 2009.06.10 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grann Thefauto
Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
Nice, lol. I don't think Aristotle would approve of you misusing him for ad hominem attacks.
Quote: asymmetric struggle
By which I take it you mean "losing"?
Very nice idealistic sentiments Delilah, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding about pirates and what makes them tick. I'll leave that up to you to discover what that is.
That parts easy pirates are sick people that enjoy other peoples misery. And even better if they can be the sorce of that misery :)
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PantrashMoFo
Caldari Bruggen Raiders
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Posted - 2009.06.10 23:23:00 -
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Well i decided to do my bit to reduce the hulk menace but being a complete noob at suicide ganking i got a hulk to 10% structure with my brutix before it got concord love.
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3506489
undeterred i roamed some more and stumbled across this guy
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3506491
God bless him for the awful hatemail and god bless him for having his drones out and aggressive as my sec status is still above 4 and he doesnt have kill rights either. The BS was no doubt over the top but with loot and salvage i am only about 10 mill down after both attempts.affordable fun all round i feel. I can reccomend that everyone tries it once ( Or twice if you are a nub like me ) |
Tobarg Shh
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 00:13:00 -
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So if i post, a hulk dies?
-fake edit Doh, wrong thread
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Felix Jugo
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Posted - 2009.06.11 09:41:00 -
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Delilah, I'm sympathetic. Highsec pirates who leave a pile of wrecks lying outside a starter station are akin to people who kick puppy dogs. Having said that, I think that taking down a highsec Hulk can sometimes be hero's work.
I've come to think so because I'm new enough that I've only just lost access to rookie help. I've been listening in. Here's what I'd hear over and over and over:
"the mission told me to warp out and mine here, but there's no ore...where's the ore?...will it come back?...what do I do now?..."
Pity them. These embryonic capsuleers have been playing EVE for all of ten minutes.* They have no idea where else to mine, and even if they did there might be no ore left in the system. They wander around lost and confused, losing much more time than they would have if they'd been shot. This seems to be happening throughout the day (whenever I've been on, at least), not just in the hours before shutdown (though it's bad just before shutdown).
Yes, pirates drink carebear tears as if they were gin, but at least they have the common decency to shoot their victims in the face. I'm not at all opposed to highsec mining, but there are places where stripmining should not happen.
Delilah, if I were you I'd be tempted to work with the pirates on this one. If you see a Hulk at work in a starter mission belt/system, give them one warning. If they keep it up, put the ship's pilot on your hit list. At some convenient future time and place, feed detailed real-time intel on the guilty to a hulk-gank-capable pirate corps. You would also be diverting attention away from innocent highsec Hulks. For the trifecta, the gankers might even be willing to pay you for your detective work if you were good enough at it to make it quick for them to find a relatively easy target.
* I believe (?) there's been a CONCORD petition about this. You'd think that this sort of thing would be a top CCP priority, seeing as EVE must be losing frustrated hatchlings at an amazing rate. Until then, why should vigilantes and privateers let CONCORD have all the fun?
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Mystafyre
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: sir gankalot
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Dude, what are you on? CCP is not going to act on this.
Ohh yes the do.. It's on same scale than ganking in Black Ops and then jumping to lowsec.. Don't do it.. |
Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:07:00 -
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I'll make sure to set Death of virtue to deep red, although I have to admit I like seeing them as sky blue. |
species2143
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: species2143 on 11/06/2009 18:37:43 Can't stand that jerk miner shooting at your roids? Want to eliminate the competition? Here's your chance Call 1-800-HULKMANIA and get rid of that pesty macrominer ruining your business.
For further information and donations contact major reach
confirming I will be receiving the ISK |
Pajama Sam
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Jugo Highsec pirates who leave a pile of wrecks lying outside a starter station are akin to people who kick puppy dogs.
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Nahkep Narmelion
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Nahkep Narmelion on 11/06/2009 23:28:08
Originally by: Felix Jugo
Delilah, if I were you I'd be tempted to work with the pirates on this one. If you see a Hulk at work in a starter mission belt/system, give them one warning. If they keep it up, put the ship's pilot on your hit list. At some convenient future time and place, feed detailed real-time intel on the guilty to a hulk-gank-capable pirate corps.
Balle, Vylade, Nausschie, Erme, and the other systems these guys operate in are not rookie starter systems.
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: rantuket It is a bit nasty suicide ganking a Hulk, kind of like picking on the ******ed kid at school. You may laugh, but there is nothing smart or funny about ******ation.
Keep the ganking to boast-worthy targets.
suddenly, white-knights, fousands of em Sir!
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Suboran
Gallente Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: species2143 LMAO
http://friendsofsharuveil.wordpress.com/
now thats funny |
throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Originally by: rantuket It is a bit nasty suicide ganking a Hulk, kind of like picking on the ******ed kid at school. You may laugh, but there is nothing smart or funny about ******ation.
Keep the ganking to boast-worthy targets.
suddenly, white-knights, fousands of em Sir!
Fousands of them!!
Thuffering thuccotash!!! |
Thucydides Milesias
Amarr Fading Suns
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:25:00 -
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This is why you work in teams.
This is the way it's supposed to work. Unfortunately, as the game is coded pirates will always have the upper hand, but resistance is possible.
Pirates enjoy killing for the ISK and for the opportunity to ruin someone's day. EVE is basically a giant griefing machine, so when you mine, plan to grief them back. Which, really, this whole post is about.
Props to you; keep doing what you're doing. Without people like you, there would be nothing to stop piracy from growing unchecked to the point that no new player could gain a foothold.
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Major Reach
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Thucydides Milesias This is why you work in teams.
This is the way it's supposed to work. Unfortunately, as the game is coded pirates will always have the upper hand, but resistance is possible.
Wot? Dude... don't post here again.
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Ho Trader
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ho Trader on 12/06/2009 03:53:53 Apparently you guys have tons of ISK to keep replacing hulks.
Why not hire some mercs to keep them locked up in station for a week. Its no fun for them if they cant undock.
Then, send a message to their Corp CEO stating if they dont send 3B ISK to replace your ships you will cont the contract for another week then the price will be 5B isk repeat as often as necessary. hehehehe..
These guys will do it for free for the first week.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1078880 |
h3llscr3am
Amarr Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Delilah Wild Aristotle, the old earth philosopher, once said that men were not adults until they reached the age of 40. Most of the pirate authored posts on this forum demonstrate his insight. I suspect many of the women of EVE, as well as in these boyz real lives, would agree.
There is, however, a method to their adolescent madness. They focus on ship kills as a means of asserting an 'objective standard' for their prowess. And they do so in order to cow high sec industrialists into shying away from overt resistance -- to pay the ransom, to pay the protection racket bribes, to hire pirates to protect your fleets, who will turn around and gank you the next day. (I mean no disrespect to true mercenaries)
Yet the killboards only feature a limited set of statistics, and fail to relate these numbers to the political goals pursued by the Friends. For example, I've lost many frigates to Whispi, but have participated in the destruction of her ships several times over at a cost of hundreds of millions more to her than I. I lost two small ships in Sharuveil last night, but the one pirate I did kill lost more isk than the losses of our 3 person squad.
What I am illustrating here is a fundamental point of asymmetric struggle. Industrialists don't have to win toe-to-toe in a particular skirmish or battle. Rather you slowly whittle down the adversaries material base and fighting morale. While you do so, you gain in skill, strength and experience. Moreover, the very act of resistance makes a political statement about one's values and commitments.
In the case of the Friends, it is to the greater well-being of the people of EVE, as expressed through our struggle against the multiple forms of victimization associated with piracy. And this includes industrialists. Moreover, it is these political values, expressed in words and actions, that are the ultimate source of power in our struggle. For it is these values that will bring together a larger community to defend ourselves and our neighbours.
We need not be reactive, we can be proactive. Contact me in game and lets talk about how we can be of help to one another.
Delilah
I dont know wich kind of drugs your doing, but i sure want some.. First of all you do realize this is just a game... and second's you come into the forums talking **it, lets do this, lets do that, bla bla bla, but all you do is fly punny rifters and breachers, when will you step up and put your actions were your mouth is, i see a bunch of ppl flying with you loosing decent ships, and all you bring to help is always same *rappy ship, you're the real deceiver.. lol if i by some act of insanity ever flyed with you (god forbid) i wouldn't wait for nasty piwates to get you, i would pod you my self.. so stop your whinning and stop to loose other ppl ships.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.06.12 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: h3llscr3am
I dont know wich kind of drugs your doing, but i sure want some..
Mescaline - Makin your trips real.
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Patoa
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2009.06.12 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Thucydides Milesias Unfortunately, as the game is coded pirates will always have the upper hand, but resistance is possible.
Resistance is futile but seriously though eve game mechanics don't favour pirates especially in hisec. Nevertheless eve is a game of risk/reward and that's what I love about it - in hisec suicide ganking is the only risk you have and it would suck if ccp made them 'safe zones'. If you don't like the risk element of eve maybe it isn't the game for you (can I haz ur stuff?) may I suggest hello kitty online? |
SuckySycky5dolla
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ho Trader Edited by: Ho Trader on 12/06/2009 03:53:53 Apparently you guys have tons of ISK to keep replacing hulks.
Why not hire some mercs to keep them locked up in station for a week. Its no fun for them if they cant undock.
Then, send a message to their Corp CEO stating if they dont send 3B ISK to replace your ships you will cont the contract for another week then the price will be 5B isk repeat as often as necessary. hehehehe..
These guys will do it for free for the first week.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1078880
Wont work. Heard of insta-undocks? We can even travel in pods to high sec and board ships there, you can't stop us....unless there are no more hulks in space |
Shpana
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Shpana on 12/06/2009 14:38:06
Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla
Originally by: Ho Trader Edited by: Ho Trader on 12/06/2009 03:53:53 Apparently you guys have tons of ISK to keep replacing hulks.
Why not hire some mercs to keep them locked up in station for a week. Its no fun for them if they cant undock.
Then, send a message to their Corp CEO stating if they dont send 3B ISK to replace your ships you will cont the contract for another week then the price will be 5B isk repeat as often as necessary. hehehehe..
These guys will do it for free for the first week.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1078880
Wont work. Heard of insta-undocks? We can even travel in pods to high sec and board ships there, you can't stop us....unless there are no more hulks in space
And plz send mercs after us, we dont like it one litle bit hehe, specially the kind that works for free for 1 whole week, that would be profitable..
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Subspace Wolf
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:48:00 -
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Today we begin to fight back
New anti-pirate intel channel - just like we do for reds in 0.0
Sinq Pirate Intel
talk to me for password
We will report intel on pirate activities - where they are - when they enter Balle, etc.
When they are sighted in pods, or ships
Primary targets for us:
Death of Virtue corp - set to -10 standings
Major Reach - and his gang of thugs
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:57:00 -
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Oh Lord...
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mystafyre
Originally by: sir gankalot
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Dude, what are you on? CCP is not going to act on this.
Ohh yes the do.. It's on same scale than ganking in Black Ops and then jumping to lowsec.. Don't do it..
Uhuh....
If they warn you, just give ANY reason why you did it other than "I wanted to preload the belt with Concord" and they are powerless and will not act. Besides, how is the ganker even going to know? He is just going to find a belt with a miner and 1 or more concord spawns and a hulk. You think if he petitions that a gm is going to spit through the log files and see if it was an alt of the miner in question? |
Agile Nakajima
Minmatar Freelance Tax Inspectors
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:26:00 -
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Hell, I accidentally got concorded shooting at a hulk in highsec once, because I was too dumb to remember I'd logged off in a 0.5 system and not a 0.4. It's pretty hard to sift the wheat of deliberately preloading a belt with concord from the chaff of people like me having a "special moment".
Ahh though, it was a glorious few seconds there when I thought I really had found a hulk all alone mining in lowsec. I was still worrying he might have a flight of warrior IIs tucked away when I got concorded.
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zombeee
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:41:00 -
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-Park a couple of cruisers with disruptors at the gate and a scout on the other side.
-Point all the incoming gankers and wait for the navy if necessary
-Profit? (not really)
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Agile Nakajima Hell, I accidentally got concorded shooting at a hulk in highsec once, because I was too dumb to remember I'd logged off in a 0.5 system and not a 0.4. It's pretty hard to sift the wheat of deliberately preloading a belt with concord from the chaff of people like me having a "special moment".
My point exactly, and ppl really think a GM is going to all that trouble just to help out a griefer for something that just MIGHT be done by a miner to protect himself?
I doubt if it even IS an exploit.
But let's say that deliberately preloading a belt is an exploit. Ganker:"ZOMFG YOU PRELOADED THAT BELT WIHT CONCORDZ!1!! PETITIONZZZZ!!!!" Miner:"Hell no, I was on my noob pirate char and tried to gank a hulk but failed." GM:*throws petition in the garbage bin.
BTW, you're last remark about the drones made me lol :)
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Nisstyree
Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Subspace Wolf Today we begin to fight back
New anti-pirate intel channel - just like we do for reds in 0.0
Sinq Pirate Intel
talk to me for password
We will report intel on pirate activities - where they are - when they enter Balle, etc.
When they are sighted in pods, or ships
Primary targets for us:
Death of Virtue corp - set to -10 standings
Major Reach - and his gang of thugs
Just when you think a thread is becoming boring and repetitive... |
Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:12:00 -
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Heh...looking at the killboard...there's a whole crapload of assorted barges there along with pods...all in .7..just because of a smartbombing megathron. Now tell me, how long did it take for you get to -10.0?
I'm well aware you can still fly around in empire even with outlaw status, but killing 8+ pods in the space of 5 seconds must've brought it down enough.
I did notice most of those kills were either alts or bots...yay for making the belts a bit cleaner. Now only if the hulks weren't fit so badly... |
Kasigi
Caldari The Demi-Fallen Ones
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Glodde Edited by: Glodde on 10/06/2009 01:37:00 Yes we will continue to kill hulks! friends of shar cant stop us! every time you make one of these post delilah, 10 more hulks will die! keep asking for donations though
Originally by: Taedrin Have you tried: 1) Hiring mercenaries/escorts to protect you 2) Moving to a different system (plenty of them available in high sec) 3) Downgrade to an insurable covetor.
Option 3 makes you lose 300m^3 per minute, but on the other hand is much cheaper to lose.
Your missing the point, or maybe Delilah didnt state it. The Hulks arent from Friends of Sharuveil. Major Reach and the others are ganking any and all Hulks. Anywhere they can. If you dont belong to those 3 Corps or their attendant Alliances or friends your Hulk is dead if they are around. I saw them gank a -7 character with a bounty because Delilah made a post. Its not FoS at all, we are try to prevent the ganking of OTHERS in Sharuveil, as well as protecting eachother. To date none of us has mined in-system, but escorted several corps mining who just showed up unannounced. No hostile acts have been perpetrated by the FoS. I got killed accidentally when a new FoS started patrolling in Shar without knowing who I was. Now we have a red/blue list to prevent this as we are not all corp mates. We are from far and wide, just sick of Player ratting. I did the pirate thing for over a year and noticed people turn on eachother monthly. We hope to hear from any who are interested and when online we hope to see those who are on the red list. "Be Seeing You" Kasigi _______________
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Subspace Wolf
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:48:00 -
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Glad to amuse you...
Originally by: Nisstyree
Just when you think a thread is becoming boring and repetitive...
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Subspace Wolf Glad to amuse you...
Originally by: Nisstyree
Just when you think a thread is becoming boring and repetitive...
YOU SEE, YOU SEE WHAT YOU HAVE MADE ME DO?!?! NOW I HAVE TO SHOOT A NOOB JUST TO MAINTAIN MY REPUTATION. CURSE YOU!!! |
Master Chaz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: h3llscr3am
I dont know wich kind of drugs your doing, but i sure want some..
Mescaline - Makin your trips real.
lana i love you..... will you be my space pal...
oh. and has a hulk builder i say let the ganking continue / and if you find yourself a victim please look me up........ |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Plus, you can get around that. :) |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kastio Delago wow..........
Seriously though, the "tip" about having ceptor pilots around to pod the pirates was lol.
Only a ceptor could catch a pod coming through a gate, as long as the pod pilot is drunk or asleep or otherwise does something stupid. And I'm sure the ceptor pilot won't mind getting insta popped by the gate guns when he tries to tackle or web or shoot the fail pod. And who needs sec status anyways?
Christ, CVA pets must be inbreeding; only way to explain ppl like you. --- I smack just for myself.
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CanIHave YourStuff
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:10:00 -
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I thought Concord spawns were individual to every act of violence, so if you PRE-load the site with concord it made no difference, they still have to spawn to act on the new act of CRIMEZ |
The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Kastio Delago wow..........
Seriously though, the "tip" about having ceptor pilots around to pod the pirates was lol.
Only a ceptor could catch a pod coming through a gate, as long as the pod pilot is drunk or asleep or otherwise does something stupid. And I'm sure the ceptor pilot won't mind getting insta popped by the gate guns when he tries to tackle or web or shoot the fail pod. And who needs sec status anyways?
Christ, CVA pets must be inbreeding; only way to explain ppl like you.
A sensor boosted incursus managed to tackle my thorax in Nausschie tonight. Oh well, time to pull another one out of the hangar.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.13 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Kastio Delago wow..........
Seriously though, the "tip" about having ceptor pilots around to pod the pirates was lol.
Only a ceptor could catch a pod coming through a gate, as long as the pod pilot is drunk or asleep or otherwise does something stupid. And I'm sure the ceptor pilot won't mind getting insta popped by the gate guns when he tries to tackle or web or shoot the fail pod. And who needs sec status anyways?
Christ, CVA pets must be inbreeding; only way to explain ppl like you.
A sensor boosted incursus managed to tackle my thorax in Nausschie tonight. Oh well, time to pull another one out of the hangar.
Was referring to the sentry part. He thinks that tackling an outlaw in high-sec gives you GCC. :) --- I smack just for myself.
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Alxea
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Posted - 2009.06.13 19:50:00 -
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http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Alxea&id=6924618&page=1&filter=kills#mail
No amount of tank will save you from even 2 people in gank cruisers. That was a 400mill kill. Somebody thought they could tank us. His tank, It failed, in like 2 secs.
[ 2009.06.13 00:38:16 ] (combat) Your group of Heavy Neutron Blaster II is well aimed at Yozudin (Hulk), inflicting 1580.3 damage.
I LOLz at the macro miners.
Destroyed items Tech I Acolyte I 2 5,600 Tech II Modulated Strip Miner II 2 7,600,000 Tech I Veldspar Mining Crystal I 1 3,250 Tech I Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 1 175,000,000 Tech I Gist B-Type Photon Scattering Field 1 15,000,000 Tech I Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field 1 15,000,000 Tech I Cargohold Optimization I 2 63,977,800 Dropped items Tech II Expanded Cargohold II 2 1,870,000 Tech I Acolyte I 5 14,000 Tech I Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array 1 1,700,000 Tech II Modulated Strip Miner II 1 3,800,000 Tech I Veldspar Mining Crystal I 2 6,501 Items in cargo Dropped items Tech I Veldspar 23,002 257,622 Total ISK loss Tech II Hulk 101,412,000 Fitted items and cargo 284,234,774 385,646,774
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Mika Xander
Eye of God Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.13 20:06:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2009.06.13 21:39:00 -
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What's the problem here?
People want to be pirates, some want to fight them. So what?
Be glad to have some variety.
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Anda Chiyo
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Posted - 2009.06.14 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Alxea Edited by: Alxea on 13/06/2009 20:09:35 http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Alxea&id=6924618&page=1&filter=kills#mail
No amount of tank will save you from even 2 people in gank cruisers. That was a 400mill kill. Somebody thought they could tank us. His tank, It failed, in like 2 secs.
[ 2009.06.13 00:38:16 ] (combat) Your group of Heavy Neutron Blaster II is well aimed at Yozudin (Hulk), inflicting 1580.3 damage.
I LOLz at the macro miners.
Destroyed items Tech I Acolyte I 2 5,600 Tech II Modulated Strip Miner II 2 7,600,000 Tech I Veldspar Mining Crystal I 1 3,250
******************************************************** Tech I Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 1 175,000,000 Tech I Gist B-Type Photon Scattering Field 1 15,000,000 Tech I Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field 1 15,000,000 ********************************************************* Tech I Cargohold Optimization I 2 63,977,800 Dropped items Tech II Expanded Cargohold II 2 1,870,000 Tech I Acolyte I 5 14,000 Tech I Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array 1 1,700,000 Tech II Modulated Strip Miner II 1 3,800,000 Tech I Veldspar Mining Crystal I 2 6,501 Items in cargo Dropped items Tech I Veldspar 23,002 257,622 Total ISK loss Tech II Hulk 101,412,000 Fitted items and cargo 284,234,774 385,646,774
That's because it was a dumb and expensive way to try and tank. Best chance defense against a gank would be to buffer it and keep things cheap.
/Me dons EFT warrior cloak
[Hulk, New Setup 1] Micro B66 Core Augmentation Damage Control II
Medium Shield Extender II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Ancillary Current Router I Core Defence Field Extender I "Just" fits (All lvl V setting) - 375/375 cpu - 63.25/63.25 grid Almost 30K EHP
Could play with hardeners a bit "if" you have a CPU implant. Since everyone and his dog are using gank rax's, Could mix up some kin/therm hardeners and take your chances that's what would be coming for you.
Unless time was taken to do a passive scan and up adjust numbers, your typical 3 rax gank would fail.
BTW - does posting in this thread grant me a Hulk kill? |
Mystafyre
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.14 05:58:00 -
[92]
One hulk makes 10 M ISK from mining veldspar per hour.
So, that's 230 M ISK a day.
4x Hulks and 2x IttyV makes 27.6 B ISK on 30 day month.
However the real macros aren't doing that.
Instead of that they are ice mining.
Orca + 5 Mackinaws for example.
Let's say that one mackinaw makes 8 M ISK per hour by mining ice (didn't bother to calculate the actual number, but its close to that).
That's 335.8 BILLION ISK per year!!!
That's without any disruptions. But still...
Oppold (Metropolis) and Gedugaud (Metropolis) has had the same about 80 Mackinaws for two years now. Farming ISK, without any breaks.
They have made just 5.3 TRILLION ISK...
The funny part is that without these bots or slaved chinese people we wouldn't have enough ice at the market. Players ice mining is rare sight... The bots and macros and slaved chinese people are probably like 90% of the ice miners in empire.
Without these T2 prices would skyrocket as first due massive POS fuel costs.
Best for the game is that CCP would FINALLY start checking up the ice fields regurlarly and ban them! There is like 5-20 ice fields in each region... Empire regions are the ones where they are doing that... It's not that hard...
Absolutely nobody can't play this game 23/7/365...
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Preda Ellalle
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Posted - 2009.06.14 06:06:00 -
[93]
/me looks over at Major Reach's thread and roflmao
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Dapto
Minmatar Dissolution Of Eternity
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Posted - 2009.06.14 10:49:00 -
[94]
Major's a funny dude if i didnt run disso i'd join him for sure as his crew have lots of lols Dapto |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.14 11:01:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Anda Chiyo
[Hulk, New Setup 1] Micro B66 Core Augmentation Damage Control II
Medium Shield Extender II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Ancillary Current Router I Core Defence Field Extender I
Typically GREED gets its teeth into these people and they choose to fit mods that increase isk/hr
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.14 13:50:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Mystafyre
The funny part is that without these bots or slaved chinese people we wouldn't have enough ice at the market. Players ice mining is rare sight... The bots and macros and slaved chinese people are probably like 90% of the ice miners in empire.
Without these T2 prices would skyrocket as first due massive POS fuel costs.
There will ALWAYS be 'enough' ice on the market, supply will always meet demand at some point. If the bots were removed ice prices would skyrocket and everyone and his dog would hop into a mackinaw and start melting rocks, bringing price down again. It is THAT simple... |
Nihilion Zero
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Posted - 2009.06.15 19:59:00 -
[97]
Hi, I was wondering if you thought a couple brutixs would work as well?
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Subspace Wolf
Eisenhower Anti-Pirates
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Posted - 2009.06.16 04:34:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Nihilion Zero Hi, I was wondering if you thought a couple brutixs would work as well?
Listen up pirates - we know u are all criminals!
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Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2009.06.17 01:31:00 -
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I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah |
sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.06.17 16:46:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Delilah Wild I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah
The lack of commitment these piwates are showing disturbs me, not even a 2nd attempt??? |
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Shpana
Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.17 16:50:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah
arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs... |
Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.17 16:54:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Delilah Wild I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah
Except, of course, for the numerous posts by those same pirates discussing exactly how to stop suicide ganking of hulks in high sec from occuring.
Moron |
Cal Darinne
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.17 17:02:00 -
[103]
I approve of not approving this thread.
PS: Delilah Wild is a piwate! Beware, beware! |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.17 19:12:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Shpana Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah
arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...
To be fair, the friends are doing alright with the fights from what I can see, all things considered. From what I can see they deserve some respect for their efforts so far.
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Shpana
Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.17 19:44:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Shpana Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah
arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...
To be fair, the friends are doing alright with the fights from what I can see, all things considered. From what I can see they deserve some respect for their efforts so far.
TBH to me anyone that puts up a fight, deserves some respect, but if someone like you say puts up a FIGHT its not Delilah, and all u have to do is to fly around shar and see for yourself, yes some of them DO put up a fight with their blobs of justice (LOL) some have killed some piwates some have lost some ships, all in the good name of fun, that imo is what a game is all about, but plz this Delilah is just a scam not even worth the ammo my low sec alt wasted on him... oh wait i use crystals :) If he just flyed down to shar and just shoot stuff like other do, but no, always flys around in t1 frigs while the ones that DO put up a fight get their ships on the line, and then comes to forums with this kind of attitude. \o fly wrecklessly
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Jared D'Uroth
Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.06.17 20:07:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Shpana Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.
Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Delilah
arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...
To be fair, the friends are doing alright with the fights from what I can see, all things considered. From what I can see they deserve some respect for their efforts so far.
I knew Spank was going senile. ===
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Insurgo Malvir No, but acting like i want + pirate's positive standing = he don't pod me.
Logical Fallacy detected
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.06.17 22:29:00 -
[107]
And i thought a hulk would get ganked if i posted here....
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.17 23:19:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Miners of Sharufail die to a smaller gang with sentrys on thier side
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.06.18 00:11:00 -
[109]
I have stopped caring about hulks.
Visiting Isinokka all week. Drop by and say hi. |
Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2009.06.20 18:16:00 -
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Well now these are some interesting posts. A few comments.
First, thank you Lady Spank. We appreciate your kind and honest words.
Second, we know we can't protect all the hulks in high sec on our own. But we can and will certainly share what seems to work when it is appropriate.
Third, you seem a tad defensive Shpana. You can easily check on the many ships I've lost in our campaign against piracy. It is, however, no secret that I attribute our success to our members and not myself. I am but a kitten in EVE. At the same time, you might be interested in a recent post from these forums that I have reproduced on our blog. It speaks to the power of asymmetric struggle, or to put it another way, the power of flying in small ships to accomplish big goals.
Finally, I cannot honestly regret your feathers getting ruffled because I don't sit on a gate in an underpowered battleship waiting for a blob of pirates to issue forth. I may be the politics of the organization, so to speak, but I've got just a tad of military sense as well. So better luck next time.
Delilah |
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.20 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth I knew Spank was going senile.
To be fair, isk war or otherwise, picking out major reach in this engagement is p cool.
I am not taking sides of course, just trying to see things in balance.
I hope both sides are having fun.
I haven't been round those parts for a few weeks but seeing a battleship called 'Delilah Killer' was p funny. Mean, but funny.
Delilah, your welcome and good luck to both sides ♥
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.20 20:02:00 -
[112]
Miners of Sharufail die to a smaller gang with sentrys on thier side
It's engagements like these that really illustrate just how much of a failure the OP and his ilk really are.
They managed to kill off the bait ship. I'm sure after insurance the loss was less than 10m. MEAT managed to kill off not one or two of the opposing ships, but *every single one*, and a pod (lol). It's also amusing to note that the OP is in a Breacher of all things. How about you put your ISK where your mouth is OP and sack up?
Carebears always immediately start crowing about the slightest most insignificant perceived success. Killing a single Thorax isn't worth posting about. Killing every single Thorax for a week that attempts a suicide gank would be worth mentioning.
Try to actually accomplish something before you try so hard to pat yourself on the back. Your arm must need a rest. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.20 20:08:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Miners of Sharufail die to a smaller gang with sentrys on thier side
It's engagements like these that really illustrate just how much of a failure the OP and his ilk really are.
They managed to kill off the bait ship. I'm sure after insurance the loss was less than 10m. MEAT managed to kill off not one or two of the opposing ships, but *every single one*, and a pod (lol). It's also amusing to note that the OP is in a Breacher of all things. How about you put your ISK where your mouth is OP and sack up?
Carebears always immediately start crowing about the slightest most insignificant perceived success. Killing a single Thorax isn't worth posting about. Killing every single Thorax for a week that attempts a suicide gank would be worth mentioning.
Try to actually accomplish something before you try so hard to pat yourself on the back. Your arm must need a rest.
Plus it was my Thorax they caught and I suck, so its really not an accomplishment at all. |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.20 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah
Plus it was my Thorax they caught and I suck, so its really not an accomplishment at all.
Yeah, that's true.. <throws Crusha under the bus> lol!
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Dave Hourai
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Posted - 2009.06.24 15:10:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane 1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.
Explain to me how you were caught? Maybe those three Ibis pilots really thought they could take me down? Maybe they realy dont like me and they dont care how many concord ships are around?!
Fact is, theres no way to tell whether someone is shooting themselves on purpose unless they are doing it from the same IP, which can easily be circumvented.
I do have a hulk pilot alt, but I haven't mined in over a month anyway. It's really hardly worth the time when you can run level 4's.
Anyone of you suicided hulk pilots wanna buy my alts Hulk for 96 mil?
CCP says: All Your Accounts R Belong To Us
lol of course they ****ing know whos alt is who, you ARE an ignorant carebear if you think that will work and that we wont petition it. Besides, there's are more than one hulk in systems at a time ALWAYS and, we KNOW how much you pitiful carebears NEED your OWN belt to mine in, PLEASE DONT TAKE MY ORE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
So, please do us a favor and:
-Shoot yourself with an alt so that CONCORD is on the other side of the system when we gank that other hulk over there. Then we warp to YOU (covertops-like) and petition the **** out of you for exploiting "faux" security. If you're so rich from mining all the time that you can fit faction mods to your ****ING HULK, why dont you pay a merc to watch you or something. |
Dave Hourai
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Posted - 2009.06.24 15:24:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Dave Hourai on 24/06/2009 15:25:43 removed :P
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Epic Edit
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.24 16:51:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Epic Edit on 24/06/2009 16:51:25 What happened to my Hulk?
Oh, wait... I can't fly a Hulk
Never Mind |
Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.25 14:35:00 -
[118]
To whom can we contract Thoraxes to keep this lol going? :)
The Cerbmeister |
Lirune Sharmier
Gallente Chimera Raiders
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:17:00 -
[119]
Contract the thoraxes to Major Reach or the corp he belongs to, Death of Virtue. |
Lokia Enroch
Outland Research and Development The Excession Group
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Posted - 2009.06.25 18:07:00 -
[120]
What I don't understand, is that looking at the killmails, even decently tanked hulks seem to die. I look at EFT and see 11k effective HP and a 76 dps tank for my hulk. I wonder if that would last long enough. Although I fit two Small extenders a Invun and a Booster. I've had a raven try to suicide me (didn't get on KM though :( ) How much more DPS does 5 destroyers do?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2009.06.25 18:18:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Lokia Enroch What I don't understand, is that looking at the killmails, even decently tanked hulks seem to die. I look at EFT and see 11k effective HP and a 76 dps tank for my hulk. I wonder if that would last long enough. Although I fit two Small extenders a Invun and a Booster. I've had a raven try to suicide me (didn't get on KM though :( ) How much more DPS does 5 destroyers do?
I was carefully told once that destroyers WOULD pump out as much DPS as a cruiser were it not for the speed loss in the turrets inherent in destroyers.
What is yet to be understood on my part is, if this speed loss comes before enhanced speed from skill training, or after a total summation of speed from skills (and implants if applicable) that being Sum of all minus the destroyer penalty. It it's not the case, could it then be possible to "skill out" the destroyer pentalty and do as much damage as a cruiser.
Hulk ganking is not my goal but using a destroyer for something it takes a cruiser to do is a good cheap way to run missions thanks to the low overhead of destroyers being cheaper, and time is saved as well when the destroyer is faster for salvaging.
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Hans Gribbens
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Posted - 2009.06.26 03:52:00 -
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theres plenty of hulks in mastakomon, and surrounding areas like uchoshi and vouskiaho
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Tauranon
Gallente Wandering Provocateurs Communitas
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Posted - 2009.06.26 07:31:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Lokia Enroch What I don't understand, is that looking at the killmails, even decently tanked hulks seem to die. I look at EFT and see 11k effective HP and a 76 dps tank for my hulk. I wonder if that would last long enough. Although I fit two Small extenders a Invun and a Booster. I've had a raven try to suicide me (didn't get on KM though :( ) How much more DPS does 5 destroyers do?
The best tank for avoiding a suicide is to be mining at 75m/s = go into warp insta, and be alert. If you think about how you do this (BMs to be aligned to etc) its not that big a hurdle for productivity - esp for those that are cargo expanded out-and-back mining anyway. The suicide modus is someone warps to belt, gets BM for hulk, everyone lands at the hulk in optimal and opens up. A hulk has no chance of getting to warp if stationary. They wouldn't even have to scram.
You can arrange it so you get a 200 second window on individual roids = enough time to cycle on them, and belts are kinda designed for this, thats why they ain't circular.
If you must sit still, then invul II, 2x passive resists IIs (therm/em), and a dcu II (hulk has a lot of hull hps), will get you out to 16k effective to any type of damage dealt against you, and you can rig and use a fitting mod, and drop the rock scanner for an extender if you want go for max survivability ie 20k+ effective, but I'd imagine a 4th cruiser or a 6th destroyer will still sink you.
The booster won't cycle enough times ever to warrant fitting against suicides. Boosters are for tanking rats.
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Midou Lii
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:45:00 -
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New tactic they use. PM after the kill
"sumon haz a hit on j00, pay uz 250m in a buyoot"
cause apparently putting a 100m isk per kill on a Hulk alt pilot in a NPC corp is something someone with a vendetta would do..right.
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Nisstyree
Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.27 17:05:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Midou Lii New tactic they use. PM after the kill
"sumon haz a hit on j00, pay uz 250m in a buyoot"
cause apparently putting a 100m isk per kill on a Hulk alt pilot in a NPC corp is something someone with a vendetta would do..right.
If you're not confortable talking about it, show me on the picture where the bad pirate touched your Hulk. |
Midou Li
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Posted - 2009.06.28 23:31:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Nisstyree
Originally by: Midou Lii New tactic they use. PM after the kill
"sumon haz a hit on j00, pay uz 250m in a buyoot"
cause apparently putting a 100m isk per kill on a Hulk alt pilot in a NPC corp is something someone with a vendetta would do..right.
If you're not confortable talking about it, show me on the picture where the bad pirate touched your Hulk.
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Zuhlaetah
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Posted - 2009.06.29 14:42:00 -
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Quote:
1. Warp to belt. 2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ????? 5.Profit
1. Buy, Insure, and fly a covetor. 2. Warp to belt 3. Mine merrily 4. ????? 5. Profit.
1. Move to another region. 2. Warp to belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ?????? 5. Profit.
1. Jump in Hulk. 2. Warp to belt. 3. Mine merrily. 4. ??????? (get suicide ganked) 5. -Profit + Carebear Tears
3 out of 4 "solutions" involve cheating the system (ie arbitrarily summon Concord) or not being able to use a ship someone felt like it was a good tool (and it is) for the job.
I suppose the next step is to ban hulks off the game completely?
LMAO at CCP making expensive T2 ships with frigate EHP, in a game where people will gank you just because it's fun and because insurance pays back almost 100% anyway.
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Piracy has never been an honorable profession, it's not about taking someone on that can fight back, it's about going for the easy kill. That's why it's called piracy
Pirates do their job to earn a nice income, suiciding hulks yields less than proper suicide ganking at gates or camping in low sec. Those who kill for a lesser income have a name, but it's not "pirate".
Quote: That in my opinion, is your best bet. Right now you're wasting so much time fighting the pirates and not mining that it's not profitable anymore (and the more you fight said pirates, the happier you make them, they love combat pvp after all). Forget mercenaries, find a good 0.0 industrial alliance, you'll have a lot more fun there.
When L4 missioneers will have to move to 0.0 sec or die, then it'll be the day it's fair to call miners for it.
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in hisec suicide ganking is the only risk you have and it would suck if ccp made them 'safe zones'
Not to ruin your parade but high sec is labelled high sec because it's supposed to be high sec.
The whole delicate mechanism worked till today because suiciding involved people doing it for a proper ISK reward (ie Uedama and related), because ships to do that were not free like these days (thanks to insurance vs mineral conjuncture) and thanks to the fact there were not people globally teaching how to exploit game flaws not to lose sec status. You break this mechanism and CCP will find another harsh "cure" like when they made freigthers though nuggets.
I hope you'll love how to have fun today you'll be unable to kill blatant china farmers under your eyes tomorrow after a buff.
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One hulk makes 10 M ISK from mining veldspar per hour.
So, that's 230 M ISK a day.
4x Hulks and 2x IttyV makes 27.6 B ISK on 30 day month
Too bad those getting killed are quite human and have maybe 2 hours a day to waste on such boring activity. With 20M a day it is quite different to recover off a ship loss.
Quote: TBH to me anyone that puts up a fight, deserves some respect, but if someone like you say puts up a FIGHT its not Delilah, and all u have to do is to fly around shar and see for yourself, yes some of them DO put up a fight with their blobs of justice (LOL)
Is this the same one killing undefended miners whining at how others unfairly blob them with their own food?
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Yonneh
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.29 15:48:00 -
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Mu'n Hurricane
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.06.29 16:34:00 -
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If there would be a single way to lolpwngank or annoy high-sec dwellers - people will use it to have some fun and profits. And no single carebear would feel "happy" and would stop whine, till every and single one of risks is removed. (Note: high-sec is not = "my mining boats are immortal while I read book\watch TV and afk-suck roids"). If all risks would be removed - making above mentioned species (~bears) happy - that would be the start of the 'wow-nization' of eve, as well as the start of some **** problems in eve-economy.
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goon fuget
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Posted - 2009.06.29 22:45:00 -
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I would love a Hulk sandwich with some badger sauce pls add a side iteron 5 for desert
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spongebobbb
Amarr under the sea
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:14:00 -
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why 5 thoraxes, 5-6 thrashers can do it in a 0.5 or 0.6
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.02 19:46:00 -
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why not?
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