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Iceni
Angel Constellation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:00:00 -
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OK so we understand that CCP have only so much resource they can throw at developing EVE whilst DUST and WOD are in development. But where should they focus... Flying in Space or Walking in Stations? FiS or WiS?
My vote: FiS.
Absolutely. |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
130
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:02:00 -
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Both.
Absolutely.
Fly Safe, Die Hard |

Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
43
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:08:00 -
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FiS
(I hope you realize that many of those people who would answer "WiS" have very little reason to be subscribed to the current FiS-centric form of EVE) |

Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:13:00 -
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Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both |

Iceni
Angel Constellation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:20:00 -
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Lucien Visteen wrote:Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both
But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.
If you can only have one, which would it be? |

toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:31:00 -
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Iceni wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment. If you can only have one, which would it be?
I play EVE for what it is FIS If you want WIS WOW is ----> |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
130
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:41:00 -
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toxicvega wrote:Iceni wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment. If you can only have one, which would it be? I play EVE for what it is FIS If you want WIS WOW is ---->
What a sad state of affairs we are in when a capsuleer compares stretching ones legs to casting spells and jumping on mailboxes. You should be ashamed.
Fly Safe, Die Hard |

BeBoPp
Kugyapa
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 08:43:00 -
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BOTH
Now first get WIS done and then make a cool winter expansion with FIS. |

toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:06:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:toxicvega wrote:Iceni wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment. If you can only have one, which would it be? I play EVE for what it is FIS If you want WIS WOW is ----> What a sad state of affairs we are in when a capsuleer compares stretching ones legs to casting spells and jumping on mailboxes. You should be ashamed.
Until I can run up to you, shank you with a knife, steal your wallet, take your $1000 blue jeans, and pry that ******** monical from your face with a rusty screw driver WIS is a **** release and worthless distraction from what EVE is supposed to be.
EVE is a PVP Spaceship game.
CCP should spend time and resources fixing what is wrong and forget about the stupid ass door. |

Alpheias
61
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:06:00 -
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FiS
WiS fans can **** off straight to second life, and hang with the furries.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |

Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:39:00 -
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Iceni wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment. If you can only have one, which would it be?
Well, I feel that polls like these is heavily biased since most will know what the vocal minority wants by this point. (just look at threads below this one).
/steps up on soapbox
Nex is bad! WiS is crap! We want the old stuff back!
Hate me for saying it if you must, but it is getting rather old. If it is getting so bad why not take a small break?
You know, strech your legs a bit, go outside, smell the fresh (depending on where you live) air a bit. Why be so angry al the time?
WiS is nothing more than a social aspect of the game, a way for players to interract with eachother without having to blow eachother up or stealing from others. And I like that, I like that fact that you can kick back and just go and talk with others if you want, and when you feel you are ready again, just get back to your ship.
It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.
Yes it could have been introduced better, but how the fear of "golden ammo" turned into WiS is crap is beyond me. I guess people will complain as long as there is something to complain about.
Now FiS is what this game is fundamentally about. Making the game better in that regard is also something I want and like. And CCP is also very mutch aware that FiS is what the vocal minority wants and as such they introduce the new 0.0.
They plan to make changes to it, and the changes they have in store is not small by any strech of the imagination. However, without fail I can guarantee you that when they do introduce the changes to the game, the very same players that wanted this, will cry and moan about it.
Please get over the fact that WiS is nothing more than an attempt by CCP to add something social to the game. If you don't like it, then don't do it. But do you really need to make hundreds of post saying that NEX is BAD, WiS is BAD, CCP is BAD?
Thank you for letting me rant.
/steps down from soapbox
Have a nice day. 
And for the record, I still want both  |

Xtraneous
Sam's Space Guys
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:50:00 -
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Lucien Visteen wrote:[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.
If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months.
Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now. |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
133
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:52:00 -
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Xtraneous wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.
If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months. Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.
I think you missed the thread where a CCP dev (or 2?) stated that the hangar is, not only, coming back, but they have it running on one of their machines.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=63719#post63719
Fly Safe, Die Hard |

Hogy Faller
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:52:00 -
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Both. But right now I prefer Wis,because summer Incarna is real preIncarna v0.01.  |

Arin Fensfield
NOVA Innovations Inc.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:58:00 -
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My vote?
Both.
But failing that, 'WiS'. I've had it up to here with all this squabbling over which there ought be; the sooner Incarna is done and deployed in-whole, the sooner people will shut up and remember it's all the same bloody game. |

Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2011.09.16 09:59:00 -
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Xtraneous wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.
If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months. Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.
Another workaround is to merge the ship and inventory window to the same area as agents and such are located, that way you dont even have to walk up to the hud element in the CQ. And you save a lot of clicks
And I know that what many miss is the functionality of the old hangar. It has been driven home repeatedly. But again, why they first shout I want ship spinning! And then complain that it wasn't that they meant at all... why do it? Why beat around the bush?
Sorry for hijacking the thread. Lets get back to the poll for now. |

Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:10:00 -
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WiS can **** off until CCP can develop it without impacting on the core game. |

Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:15:00 -
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IMHO, both, although I don't know what the development time split should be.
FiS: Concentrate on fixing the little things that make players go crazy.
WiS: Attract Second Life types that might find they really enjoy FiS  |

Samillian
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:21:00 -
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FiS
First, last and always. |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
135
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:23:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:IMHO, both, although I don't know what the development time split should be. FiS: Concentrate on fixing the little things that make players go crazy. WiS: Attract Second Life types that might find they really enjoy FiS 
You know, I hate to be a constant poster in threads, especially if it doesn't have anything to do with the topic, but I have to ask people questions sometimes: Is EVE not a second life, thousands of years into the future, in Space - the harshest and coldest galaxy since the Milky Way?
I think so.
I mean, people play games to "immerse" themselves within another world, so... I don't know, I'm growing weary of sweeping generalizations.
Carry on.
Fly Safe, Die Hard |

Ex0101
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:54:00 -
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I want WiS done first, waited years for Incarna to actually arrive and what we've got currently is far from what we were sold.
That said FiS should be receiving love at the same time, we shouldn't be made to suffer if CCP have misjudged their resources. |

Xtraneous
Sam's Space Guys
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:59:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:Xtraneous wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.
If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months. Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now. I think you missed the thread where a CCP dev (or 2?) stated that the hangar is, not only, coming back, but they have it running on one of their machines. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=63719#post63719
I could hardly miss the thread, i've posted in it. 
My point was in response to Lucians' soapbox about being sick of people who've complained. I'm just saying there's been valid reason to complain. Also if it hadn't been for all the rage we wouldn't be getting a hangar back.
And of course my vote is: FiS
Nothing against WiS, some aspects of it I look forward to, but if we had to choose where to allocate resouces it's no contest. |

El 1974
Bendebeukers Green Rhino
4
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Posted - 2011.09.16 11:30:00 -
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FiS as long as it doesn't mean Fashion in Stations. |

Kim Telkin
Love for You
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Posted - 2011.09.16 11:51:00 -
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FIS. Space! Spaceships!
WiS is a cool concept, which I enjoy disabling to make my laptop not catch on fire. I'd say develop WiS as long as it doesn't detract from FiS development... oh wait. On second though, keep eve development the same as the eve cluster, single threaded ;) |

Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
15
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Posted - 2011.09.16 12:13:00 -
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WIS, as we already have a good deal of FIS.
After that more FIS. Style over substance |

Perramas
Pan Caldarian Ventures
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 12:36:00 -
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PiS s on WiS |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2011.09.16 12:41:00 -
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Iceni wrote:Lucien Visteen wrote:Why settle for one when you can have both?
I want both But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment. If you can only have one, which would it be?
erm wake up,, we only have one at the moment which is FIS, you can't call walking in your room WIS.
when wis matches up to fis i shall want it, until then, barbie in space can shaft itself. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
140

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Posted - 2011.09.16 12:53:00 -
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I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Large Collidable Object
morons. Interstellar Hobos
193
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:03:00 -
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Eve (and yes - that means FiS)
If CCP can retain more subs by implementing second life in space-stations, fine with me, but regarding Apocrypha having been the last good spaceship expansion and that being 2.5 years old, I'd say more spaceship-content is long overdue. morons are recruiting. You know who you are! |

Vicar2008
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
25
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:08:00 -
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FiS |
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