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Hicksimus
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:54:00 -
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Both, both can be amazing and both are being neglected. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:02:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:Both.
Absolutely.
I would also like them to work at solving world hunger, and supplying medical needs to the disadvantaged, and finding cures for cancer, parkinsons, alzhiemers, ALS....
But I suppose if they can't do it all, I want them to work on FIS, then the other things I mention, and if they get all that done, then walking in stations.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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MinSebsis
Steel Hammer Industry
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:38:00 -
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FiS
Space Barbie does not intrest me.
Paying Customer - Capsaleer enabled in 2005 |
Christian Schneider
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:38:00 -
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Both with a focus on WiS for some time.
I started playing EVE 3 years ago because I was expecting WiS to be implemented. EVE should be a complete Science Fiction simulator. Having an avatar is an essential part of such a simulator. It makes EVE hopefully more complex and provides absolutely awesome graphics. I like this game because of its complexity and its awesome graphics. FiS (i.e. piloting / controlling a ship) should only be the basic aspect of this game which links all other aspects. In fact I spent more time with other aspects of the game for the last 3 years.
I was heavily disappointed with the tyrannis expansion because PI didn't add any nice graphics and hardly any complexity. It takes no time / money to understand and master PI. I seriously hope you are not doing the same mistakes with Establishments. It should require at least 100 billion ISK to have a high-end establishment and there have to be a lot of options to provide complexity. It has to be hard but possible to earn a good amount of money with establishments.
If I had to pick another aspect of the game for you to focus on I would choose POS. POS (tower) are ugly and completely unrealistic. Basically it should be possible to dock at a tower and pos mods should not just float around in space but they should be linked and look like a small city. |
Trainwreck McGee
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:41:00 -
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FiS gives us a wonderful sandbox to blow the **** out of each other
WiS is a useless platform to charge us more money and make us buy new computers
How could anyone pick WiS? |
Magnus Orin
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:41:00 -
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FiS |
ISquishWorms
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:44:00 -
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Vote for FIS but at the same time I would like WIS to be finished and not abandoned and forgotton. Just would like FIS to get priority at the moment. I look forward to playing Poker with ISK if that is in the plans for WIS. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:49:00 -
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Both. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:50:00 -
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Internet Spaceships first, Internet Walking second.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:53:00 -
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If I felt the need to have a human avitar, I'd have never stuck with Eve.
I play Eve for the GAME that it is, the same reason that I play chess. I'm not interested in immersion, playing dress up, running around in a 3d chat room, or any other features that don't improve on the underlying game.
Until CCP can tell us that WiS will have real gameplay value, rather than saying that it'll increase immersion or simply that it'll be cool, it's FiS all the way for me. |
Pyx Jasta
104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:54:00 -
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FiS first, then WiS. I want both, Spaceships is the big draw and should always come first, but there is a lot of potential with WiS beyond barbie-ism. |
Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:57:00 -
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FiS first.
I'm as much for the idea of immersiveness and expanding EVE into a 'full sci-fi' simulator as the next person, but the core game experience is what keeps people interested.
Incarna, as is, is fluff. New players may ooh and aah over it, but what will keep them suscribed is whether the game outside the hangar is enjoyable. And keep in mind that new players ask around when they decide whether to subscribe to a game long-term. When they keep hearing about neglected, broken, buggy, and incomplete game features, they're not going to stay. |
Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:58:00 -
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Eve - I don't care about WiS as long as it can be disabled end Eve development doesn't suffer from it. |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:01:00 -
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FiS
Please? |
Kira Rayl
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping
Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:15:00 -
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VaMei wrote:If I felt the need to have a human avitar, I'd have never stuck with Eve.
I play Eve for the GAME that it is, the same reason that I play chess. I'm not interested in immersion, playing dress up, running around in a 3d chat room, or any other features that don't improve on the underlying game.
Until CCP can tell us that WiS will have real gameplay value, rather than saying that it'll increase immersion or simply that it'll be cool, it's FiS all the way for me.
I agree with this guy. |
Foofad
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet
Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:22:00 -
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Both, though I'm leaning heavily toward space barbie. Walking in stations is going places. I like it. |
betoli
Between the lines
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:23:00 -
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Tentatively both. But certainly not spending more than 20% resources on WiS.
In general you should always fix what you have in preference to new shiny stuff. With FiS
- the bug backlog is huge
- several areas need a complete revamp
Also - noone has explained what GAMEPLAY will come with WiS. I believe they are doing the shiny graphics without a kcufing clue as to what everyone is going to do when the door opens.... |
Satav
Latinum Exports
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:24:00 -
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Fis
Flying in Space all the way. The thing that makes this game unique and fun.
If you want WiS World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, Everquest, LOTR online are------------------>
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Luna c um rubet, est sanguis effusus. |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:24:00 -
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Kira Rayl wrote:VaMei wrote:If I felt the need to have a human avitar, I'd have never stuck with Eve.
I play Eve for the GAME that it is, the same reason that I play chess. I'm not interested in immersion, playing dress up, running around in a 3d chat room, or any other features that don't improve on the underlying game.
Until CCP can tell us that WiS will have real gameplay value, rather than saying that it'll increase immersion or simply that it'll be cool, it's FiS all the way for me. I agree with this guy.
as I said: there IS NO FiS
Its called EVE
and its a huge issue for me that CCP have divided the game into two parts, one of which has no gameplay value to be added to the other.
FiS is THE GAME. Has been for what 8 years?
WiS is purely aesthetic. A cabinet to show off MT items.
Funny, the last game that I remember that years after the game came out decided to make such a huge change lost all their subs and are closing later this year
please note: yes, I do understand the difference between the sweeping game changes that was the CU/NGE thing for Star Wars Galaxies and the Aesthetic MT cabinet WiS is. My POINT is made by one of the designers on the CU/NGE project in a article I read a while ago an will link here:
"In Which I try to speak honestly about history"
Quote:Does that matter? Not really.
The point, the fuckup, the mistake that we made, was answering an
unasked question.
GÇ£Can you change an MMO drastically after it launches?GÇ¥
Categorically, NO.
"If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave."
Quoth the Hillmar |
Ager Agemo
whips chains and ballgags
Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:33:00 -
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1$ NEX GRENADES! then WIS...
CCP would become rich instantly... at the sheer brutality on stations.... |
mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:36:00 -
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Um... EVE is FiS. space-barbie hello-kitty-reject is a pathetic marketing scam by Hilmar trying to bleed the subscribers for a new corp jet. EVE would be better if Sitting-on-Couch was chopped off like an infected limb. |
Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:42:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:
as I said: there IS NO FiS
Its called EVE
Well - it's also about the fact that there's more to Eve than 'WiS' and 'FiS' - the market, industry, politics etc.... Whilst they certainly evolve around 'FiS' they do not involve flying in space for the most part.
But I agree - for now, it's easiest to call the actual game Eve as opposed to the useless ressource hog 'WiS', since it adds no content whatsoever. |
Denidil
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:43:00 -
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FiS gets priority, but WiS should be worked on as well.
WiS is kinda cool and all, but FiS is more important.-á More FIS WORK!
Nerf Supers, get the new backgrounds, buff assault ships, do the 0.0 balance, buff lowsec. and make a space pony!
DUST SHOULD BE ON THE PC (a real platform!) GDI! I WILL NOT BUY A FQNG PS3 |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:46:00 -
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FiS
The WiS advocates had their chance, and they haven't shown that they can employ resources to good effect. Let them "starve" for :18 months:, and learn to work with lean resources. When they've shown they can get worthwhile results with just 2-3 dev teams, then there might be a case for expanding the project to give them more.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:46:00 -
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mkint wrote:Um... EVE is FiS. space-barbie hello-kitty-reject is a pathetic marketing scam by Hilmar trying to bleed the subscribers for a new corp jet. EVE would be better if Sitting-on-Couch was chopped off like an infected limb.
I ave to agree. but given their dedication to "staying the course" I doubt we'll ever see a rollback sadly
"If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave."
Quoth the Hillmar |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:52:00 -
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50% of resources should go to FiS
30% of resources should go to Dust 514 (cos its somewhat eve related)
20% of resources should be left for WoD (personally i can't see WoD do well as its more or less the same as wow, guildwars, lord of the rings online etc.) |
Farriz
Nth Dimension
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:54:00 -
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"Fix" Incarna, and get us some awsum new FIS Content (so both, cause i'd like to see the hangar thingy this year instead of next, even tough I have a machine that can run CQ without melting)
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Handsome Hussein
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:56:00 -
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FiS 100%, no ******* compromise.
Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:01:00 -
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I would prefer they finish WiS to a reasonable degree and then let it go the way of FW.
The subscribers will make any of the content itself with WiS anyways so long as you give them the rest of the racial quarters, ship spinning, and some spartan meeting room and/or bar where they can congregate like true socialites and at least feel some sort of avatar related goodiness.
After CCP meets these basic premises, I think they should just leave all the avatar stuff for WoD and get back to FiS for EVE from thereon out until the last blade server goes offline in years to come.
...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
Suneai
Space Tide Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:11:00 -
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While I prefer new content being done on FiS, since they've started up on the WiS stuff I'd like them to finish what they started so that it functions as it was meant to. Or at least get the old 'ship spinning hangar' level of functionality and then do an extra kick of focus on the FiS content. |
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