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Lord Kreza
Rekall Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:12:00 -
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FiS |
Baralosus
Crimson Empire.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:13:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.
Sure thing.
FIS is of utmost importance, however I would like to see CQ finished- that is, all racial CQs released BEFORE winter. Then when winter comes around, I would like to see FIS being iterated on. Nebulae, null, FW, etc. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:15:00 -
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In an interview a dev aid the other CQs and establishments were almost done. Its seems to me that the drain on FiS to finish that part of Wis would be small, so I think we can have both.
Going forward, WiS should be allocated around 20% of resources. Logic: High sec, low sec, null sec, W-space, in-station. 5 areas, each get their share.
CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. |
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:18:00 -
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Baralosus wrote:
...that is, all racial CQs released BEFORE winter..
So you can do nothing in four different confinement cells?
"FiS" all the way. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:20:00 -
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I want to see more development on the game Eve Online, which I pay a subscription for.
In whatever moonspeak you guys are on about, I guess I mean the part about SPACESHIPS. NOT the part with dressing up like a BDSM fetish-club goer.
I'm not even a fan of the new character creator. Better faces, lacking everything else. WHERE IS MY ******* PONYTAIL, YOU JACKASSES? |
Indy Rider
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:20:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.
Pretty sure thats commenting on dev resources (commenceoveranalysing)!
I would like to see CQ released - only when all of the races were done, and they were up to an acceptable standard, lets be honest the amount of GPU utilization I'm seeing is just absurd.
To be perfectly honest I can't choose, a choice between WiS, Nex (fuggoff) or FiS, Imo, that sort of choice, call it a sacrifice if you will, shouldn't come up in the first place. |
Malcom Dax
Blacklight Incorporated
Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:21:00 -
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For what my 2 cents is worth, I'd very much like to see FiS being worked on as a priority.
However, given the time and effort that CCP has already put into Incarna and WiS, and considering the current state of WiS (ie that it adds little to no game play value to Eve) I think it is important that WiS is brought to a state where it does add meaningful game play value.
Picking one over the other is difficult as I'd like to see both, as others have said. But in line with what I've said above, I have to say WiS first, until it is at a state where it actually adds to the game. |
Josie Starshine
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:24:00 -
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Both
You need to support the current playerbase.
Incarna (WiS) also brought a lot of new players into the game and the proposed, fully implemented Incarna (WiS) will create new styles of gameplay for a more diverse playerbase to enjoy. |
T'Laar Bok
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:27:00 -
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Neither , they both suck. I'm waiting for WCOOOS*
*Window cleaning on outside of stations.
Amphetimines are your friend. |
Rakh Eldan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:29:00 -
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Finish what you started, but the focus should always be on the gameplay and not the fluff. |
Zagam
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:29:00 -
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Is this even a question?
FiS.
If I want to have a game centered around WiS, there are many options around. (don't get me wrong, I like the idea of WiS, but FiS is what I play EVE for) |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:29:00 -
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Both.
As Incarna code and assets are completed it'll be easier for CCP to balance out development on both. From what I've seen being discussed I think that balance will start to be seen with the winter expansion and it's focus on 0.0 improvements.
For FiS they are working on new skies, version 3 ship skins to go with the new turrets, and a whole list of changes to start on for 0.0.
For WiS they are working on finishing the CQs and opening The Door. With that I'm hoping with get revamped booster production and smuggling which actually involve just as much FiS time, including the potential for capsuleers to police the smuggling operations.
It's your argument that they can only develop one half of the game at a time. They may be struggling a bit to find balance but I'm holding off until the winter to see how they are doing. |
Lord Ryan
Derailleurs
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:30:00 -
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FIS.
I only sub because Ilike spaceships. I wanted a frickin Star Destroyer! I can't stand F'in Elves! I can walk in RL, I can't fly an F'in spaceship in RL! Give me an F'in Star Destroyer!
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:33:00 -
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FiS |
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:36:00 -
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Fix Gallente. |
Nth Ares
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:37:00 -
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FiS.
Also, Incarna should just be a separate, social hub/virtual world from which players can have certain interaction with EVE, DUST, and the market, and play minigames. It should have its own budget, revenue and resources so as not to impact EVE's development resources. It doesn't need to be hyper-realistic either, people will buy pixels even if they are lower-resolution; just scale down the price to match. I'm not saying make it ugly, I am saying look at Infinity Blade, which runs on an iPhone.
Running hardware-intensive software just to to putter around in a station may make some players feel hardcore, but I don't think it really grows the potential customer base very well. Incarna should be recast as a light, mobile-friendly client (read: app) that people can use to interact and communicate with EVE / DUST players and the market even when they aren't able to commit to a few hours at the PC or PS3. Or, they can have it running in the background while they do their flying in space.
If seperated, Incarna could be offered free, with revenue just coming from clothing and ad sales, drawing new potential customers into relationships with EVE players and exposing them to an environment where they can be marketed CCP products. If, as a free, light-running, attractive hub it served to bring in more paying customers for EVE, DUST, WoD and future titles, it might make more money for CCP in the long run than if they sold 1000 monocles. |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:45:00 -
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There is no FiS
Only EVE
"If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave."
Quoth the Hillmar |
Winston Clarke
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:50:00 -
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Aloe Cloveris wrote:Fix Gallente.
This 100%
I really think FiS deserves more attention than it seems to be getting.
There are so many things the community has been waiting for for such a long time.
Gallente(and other) rebalancing, reworked module and jump effects, new SHIP graphics(!!) and much more.
WiS does not really add anything to the game play as such and I don't really see what it will be adding in the future? I signed up for a pvp spaceship game, not to play barbiedolls. The concept of WiS needs so much more work in order to be meaningful.
Meanwhile, FiS has so many issues that are more tangible and concrete, yet we feel that nothing is being done, why isn't CCP focusing on them? Why does it take so long to make new graphics for ships? I assume the software is already there since we have two new ships (in a whole year) so why haven't we seen a complete makeover of the old ship models? Same with cyno effects and engine trails. You made new gun models, thats awesome - now make new ships to go with them and make missile launchers, energy neutralizers and repair modules visible on ships as you promised as well.
But really, the balancing aspect is the worst - we haven't seen anything new since the rebalancing of pirate and the introduction of more faction ships. Why is the tier system still there? Why is gallente still being neglected? Why are some ships still horribly broken?
tl;dr I would prefer a graphical and balance makeover of FiS rather than WiS.
p.s. If you absolutly have to focus so much on WiS, atleast make some suggestive clothing such as pleated miniskirts and knee socks so I can ********** to my female avatar. All these buisness suits are boring as hell. |
Cozmik R5
Dock 94
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:52:00 -
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EVE Online; the original name of Flying in f@#$ing Space.
If I want to play as a walking/running character I'll play Quake or Hellgate.
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Captain Hindsite
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:55:00 -
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FiS. Fix the bugs, fix the balance issues, flesh out the unfinished/broken features currently in-game (ie, FW, sov warfare, farms and fields, etc).
A year or so after that, I'll be happy to walk into some scumbag's 'establishment' and buy hookers and blow from a shady guy in a dark corner, and/or shoot said shady guy in the face and steal his stuff.
But first: please, finish what you've started (pre-Incarna, that is). |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:56:00 -
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FIS |
Freya Chang
The Crabbit
Necrophiliacs
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:59:00 -
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FIS.
Edit: in fact, I'd be willing to forego any content expansions for upto a year if that meant CCP where busy fixing glitchy clients and fixing/improving broken gameplay. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:00:00 -
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Flying in Space (ie Eve Online) needs top priority always. There is huge room for improvement in existing and new features. Faction Warfare, Tech3, Sov3.0, Lowsec, Mercs and Bounty Hunters, the list goes on. This is where CCP's effort needs to be prioritized in truth.
Walking in Stations/Ambulation/Incarna or whatever, I don't mind some development done there as long as it is proper content that all players can access and build and arrives for everyone within the content patches. To enlarge on this point: I don't mind clothing and furniture and room fittings and whatnot but it needs to arrive as blueprints so people can build it and sell it on the market. If you buy an establishment it needs to have a certain degree of content customization available from day one.
NeX can die in a fire for my money. I hate the concept with avengence. For me every moment of development effort spent on a NeX item is stolen from core game development and I resent it completely. I feel anything that comes from the NeX store is cheapening the expansion and breaking the traditional content provision methodology in Eve online.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. |
Iohet Nolafew
Star Frontiers
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:06:00 -
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Definitely Flying In Stations |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:19:00 -
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FiS at the expense of WiS.
The reason I play this game is because of FiS. FiS should be the primary focus of development for EVE. Don't get me wrong, I want to see Incarna completed, but it really doesn't offer much I can't already get from other games. Hell, if i want a fully playable Sci-Fi avatar experience, I'll play SWTOR. But that's what doesn't appeal to me about that game; from the looks of it, its a WOW clone with a Sci-Fi skin. I want spaceships in space, that's why I love this game and have been a subscriber of multiple accounts for almost 4 years.
Back to the point though, I'd rather get one more racial CQ an expansion (over the next couple of years) and a lot more FiS content then let FiS languish at the expense of Incarna. The options and opportunities of FiS is what keeps me hooked on this game. |
Perramas
Pan Caldarian Ventures
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:20:00 -
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Now that I have thought about it some more. Use the revenue from the Nex store(its going to be super awesome revenue stream you sold 52 monocles the first day!) to fund WiS and nex items. Then use the subscription money to fund FiS and pay the bills. |
Jith
Rising Ashes Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:33:00 -
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Both |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:35:00 -
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If one absolutely had to be sacrificed to the other, I'd prefer FiS over WiS.
But I like both, I want to see WiS develop too. And I can't see why a 600-person company can't do both, with the right management. |
Lin Fatale
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:47:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.
CCP should do an official poll with the most important questions and announce it / send it via email. Like you did with the language poll. Its small effort and you get exactly what the players think / want.
Creating some questions like this normaly also help yourself to understand the problem better.
Why is small scale pvp "dead". Why is sov boring. Are Supers overpowered or not? and will a small ehp/drone nerf will change something? |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:50:00 -
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1. FIS : fix sov warfare
2. FIS : fix nullsec/lowsec industry
3. FIS : fix hybrids
3. FIS : fix POS mechanics and ACL structures
4. FIS : give new ships
WIS is irrelevant, the above will keep CCP busy for the next 2 years.
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