Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both

But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?

I play EVE for what it is FIS
If you want WIS WOW is ---->

What a sad state of affairs we are in when a capsuleer compares stretching ones legs to casting spells and jumping on mailboxes. You should be ashamed.

But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?

[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.

If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months.

Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.

If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months.

Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.

IMHO, both, although I don't know what the development time split should be.

FiS: Concentrate on fixing the little things that make players go crazy.

WiS: Attract Second Life types that might find they really enjoy FiS

I think you missed the thread where a CCP dev (or 2?) stated that the hangar is, not only, coming back, but they have it running on one of their machines.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=63719#post63719

But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?

I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.

...that is, all racial CQs released BEFORE winter..

I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.

Fix Gallente.

I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.

Both.

Absolutely.

If I felt the need to have a human avitar, I'd have never stuck with Eve.
I play Eve for the GAME that it is, the same reason that I play chess. I'm not interested in immersion, playing dress up, running around in a 3d chat room, or any other features that don't improve on the underlying game.

Until CCP can tell us that WiS will have real gameplay value, rather than saying that it'll increase immersion or simply that it'll be cool, it's FiS all the way for me.

I agree with this guy.

Does that matter? Not really.
The point, the fuckup, the mistake that we made, was answering an
unasked question.

GÇ£Can you change an MMO drastically after it launches?GÇ¥

Categorically, NO.

as I said: there IS NO FiS

Its called EVE

Um... EVE is FiS. space-barbie hello-kitty-reject is a pathetic marketing scam by Hilmar trying to bleed the subscribers for a new corp jet. EVE would be better if Sitting-on-Couch was chopped off like an infected limb.

I would also like them to work at solving world hunger, and supplying medical needs to the disadvantaged, and finding cures for cancer, parkinsons, alzhiemers, ALS....


But I suppose if they can't do it all, I want them to work on FIS, then the other things I mention, and if they get all that done, then walking in stations.

You've had 7 years of FiS, let's have a little bit of WiS until we have something that resembles a finished project.

Durr, that 7 years is what made Eve a remotely successful video game. No contentless no gameplay barbie dolls /dancing in a station.

Durr, that 7 years is what made Eve a remotely successful video game. No contentless no gameplay barbie dolls /dancing in a station.

Outside of EVE, how many sandbox games have you played? In fact, I think all the "ARRRRGH SPACESHIP GAME" people need to answer this question.

Outside of Eve, I've played one other sandbox game; SWG. If I knew of other sandboxes with deep mechanics, a strong player driven economy, and a sizeable player base, I'd give those a shot too.

Like Eve, it had some rough edges, but that was a good GAME with lots of depth to the mechanics. They could have skinned it as Smurfs Online and I would have played it, because it was a good GAME. If they had eliminated the most OP weapons, changed the doc buffs to % based like entertainer buffs, controlled numbers of the most powerful Jedi (advancement by elimination?), and followed through with the player fortifications that were in the works; that would have been a great game.

I really don't care about cool graphics, a deep storyline, or how immersive a game is. I want a good game. Anything else is just window dressing.

Damned forum ate my reply twice now...

Finish what you started, but the focus should always be on the gameplay and not the fluff.

Flying in Space

BOTH

Now first get WIS done and then make a cool winter expansion with FIS.

Seven years of CCP development made Eve a remotely successful video game. That is quite an achievement for a game in the mmo market. I think they know what they're doing.

P.i.S.S.! thats rude right? Omg you said it.

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FiS.

If I wanted to yiff people, I'd be in furcadia.

well..

It will be maintainable, but one has to introduce a LOT of enviromental particulars. Ohh and also, dont make people queue for simple games which noone wants to play.

I'm not going to say anything about the allocation of development resources, but this is a good thread, and we are listening. Please keep it coming.